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Can they be fixed?
Chase Allen
Jayden Harris
They're perfect. The remakes are also perfect. Don't fuck with them. Every other Pokémon game is sub-optimal.
Asher Martinez
Desperate for yous
Blake Rivera
All of the 2D pokemon games are pretty good I can't really think of one that's objectively bad. It's basically the same fucking game with a bit extra each gen so if you want the "fix" just look at the gen after. Pokemons main thing has been that its core formula is really fun, so they've been getting away with less and less as of recently
Christopher Russell
>x was never that good
>x is actually a bad game
>x isn't as good as you remember
God I hate these videos. And they're all 5-8 hours long. Who would actually watch some schmuck talk about a game for 8 hours?
Christian Roberts
>God I hate these videos. And they're all 5-8 hours long. Who would actually watch some schmuck talk about a game for 8 hours?
The worst is how they're always made by people that were born way after the game was released and don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
Zoomer youtube historians talking about shit from 20 years ago like its ancient history makes me want to fuckin die
Ian Green
the pic in the op is only 20 minutes
John Hill
Zoomers will never know what playing GSC was like during the peak of Pokemania and this greatly upsets them for some reason
John Turner
Get tired of shitposting /vp/?
Nolan Ward
back to your discord tranny
Gavin Russell
Nah because we had hgss which was objectively better
Julian King
Jackson Anderson
I only played Red/Yellow and Emerald back in the day
Played gen 2 a couple of years ago, the difficulty curve is FUCKED
Jack Phillips
>difficulty curve
if you have any sort of difficulty on a game designed for autistic 6 year olds, I don't know what to say
Carter Brooks
Yeah being designed for autistic kids makes sense, since you pretty much have to grind wild pokemon for hours to be at the appropriate level for each gym
Gavin Parker
>Can they be fixed
they already were
Wyatt Diaz
I played through crystal recently and had a great time
Jeremiah Morgan
what if the appropriate level is whatever you show up with
Nathaniel Gutierrez
>Complaining about difficulty in GSC
The gym leaders have like only 1 pokemon at most that's actually a threat. Their level is basically the only thing that makes them even halfway challenging and your Pokemon will always be stronger anyway.
Ryder Kelly
How can they be the worst when Gen 6 and onward exist?
Benjamin Jenkins
the opposite is true, it fosters using only 1 pokemon and you can steamroll with no grinding
Kayden Bailey
>using only 1 pokemon
Well no fucking shit, you can easily win every game with that
Liam Cooper
>level scaling still fucked to all hell
Nope
Benjamin Fisher
I still can't believe that thought it was fine to not put any trainers in Victory Road. Again.
Justin Morgan
I'm pretty sure why these youtubers make these videos, they're seething they never got to enjoy these while they were new. things have a different feel depending on context, to them GSC will never be good because they're used to the newer games.
Parker Murphy
i'm mad that Ruby & Sapphire weren't just gen1 & 2 fixed,
instead of RSE & FRLG, there should have just been gen 1 & 2 full sized from their own games all in one game, choose where to start and advance into the other, ect
gen 3 as it came out sucks so hard, no respect for those who put them on a pedestal
Camden Butler
>We should've just gotten kanto for the 3rd gen in a row
genwunners are the most delusion fucks on this website
Jaxon Bell
/thread
Hunter Sanders
hate this meme that the first god damn pokemon is bad, you should be cast into a lake of fire you zoomer nigger
Dylan Nelson
In GSC it was only tolerable thanks to badge boosts. It was unbearable in HGSS.
Sebastian Miller
>We should've just gotten kanto for the 3rd gen in a row
Easton Sullivan
It WAS bad. Every generation after it has been a massive improvement up until 5th gen.
Ryder Lee
already have
Jayden Watson
Where did in my post did I say it was bad you schizophrenic?
Nolan Powell
>OH MY GOOOOOD I CAN PLAY THE LAST GAME AGAIN HOLY SHIT!!!!!
Why did this make xoomers cum and shit their pants? I don't get it.
Justin Foster
fucking ZOOMERS fuck you, god damn nigger, deserve fucking torture to be etched on your ballsack ywnbaw
Liam Brown
Based but even with their improvements it feels like it'll always be in beta. They're slowly chipping away at the 9bit fork to expand the dex without cuts but even then there's so much TODO shit.
Still the best way to replay Crystal just for the base content along with features like natures/abilities/level scaling/phsyspec split.
Landon Morales
The second generation of Pokemon improved on the first gen in literally every conceivable way.
Adrian Turner
eh, I did not care for gen 4 that much. it makes you go to that shitty, winding, zubat infested mountain 3 times in the story, and for what
Carson Anderson
GSC was shit, I'm not sure why people praise them. This is coming from someone who started on Blue and was big on the Pokemania, to the point where my Dad emulated the Japanese version of Gold for me way before the Western release was out. The anime also got worse when it transitioned to gen 2.
Cameron Sanders
>twitch watches pokemon never again
>no comfy vp threads to post/watch in with an emu on the side
Andrew Taylor
HGSS was not as impactful on its release as G/S were back in the day. That's similar to implying that OOT3D has as much relevance as OOT when it released, they're incomparable.
Jordan Young
>Adds in Lyra
Yeah, I'm gonna pass on that
Elijah Bennett
as if i cannot see through such deceit, pathetic larp
Cameron Collins
Adds in a lot, really. They're just pixels on screen but the cameos have some value to them.
Kevin Nguyen
Yeah, but fuck any game that has Mario's Redneck Cousin in.
Kayden Cox
I fucking miss 2006 RS bros...
Easton Roberts
:(
Jack Miller
>NOOOOOOO ONLY ZOOMERS CAN HATE GEN2 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T PLAY IT WHEN IT WAS COOL
Carter Roberts
Can you choose to use the original look for the female MC? It is nicer, even if I don't dislike the HGSS look.
Dominic Wright
boomers cannot conceptually the grasp of someone genuinely disliking their games, notice how all the comments for it boil down to "fucking zoomer" or "they're just hating on it for attention"
Carter Rivera
fuck off zoomer
Juan Mitchell
That is the original look isn't it? It's not like Prism's autistic character creator (but that would be cool to have).
Brayden Nelson
thank you for proving my point
Juan Rivera
And thank you for proving mine zoom zoom
Angel James
Fpbp
Joseph King
KAAAAAAAAANNNNTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Gabriel Mitchell
JOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Jeremiah Nelson
Gen 2 fans are unironically worse than Genwunners.
Evan Adams
This but unironically
Charles Turner
And that's a good thing.
Leo King
Here's my legitimate complaints.
>Levels are all over the place, trainers can have level 15 shitmons while the local gym has level 30s.
>A lot of new Pokemon are limited to post game (Somewhat fixed in Crystal)
>Kanto is kind of empty and boring, less of a big problem since it was a last minute addition
>Roaming Legendaries were annoying, even with the right setup
I'd still rather play it than Gen 1, but they're hardly perfect. Later games just have a better mix of old and new and more balanced levels.
Connor Cooper
Pokemon fans in general are fucking awful to deal with, they can't divorce their nostalgia for whatever games they started with from the game's actual quality when it comes to discussion
No other game fandom is anywhere near THIS fucking bad when it comes to their games in my experience.
I mostly agree with all of this, HGSS sort of touched upon some of the flaws but kantos trainers being such a joke makes it less interesting than it otherwise could've been
I've never played a pokemon romhack but I'm sure theres a decent one out there that address some of these things for HGSS, should probably look into that at some point
Joseph Edwards
The most confusing part to me is that most players will go to Chuck then Jasmine after Morty. Jasmine has 2 level 30s and a level 35, then you go to Pryce and he has a level 27, a 29 and 31. They tried to make it more open worldy because you could go to Pryce to first, but pretty much everyone I know always went after Jasmine then Pryce.
Also there weren't many gen 2 Pokemon to catch in Jhoto, a lot of gen 1 though. And gen 2 Pokemon aren't that great, some are just evolutions to gen 1 Pokemon, some are baby Pokemon and a decent portion only became decent after getting a gen 4 evolution later on.
Angel Smith
Of course they can be fixed.
Just play the highly acclaimed Shockslayer™ presents Crystal Clear
Connor Sanchez
Fpbp
Liam Bailey
>Also there weren't many gen 2 Pokemon to catch in Jhoto
I think the intent was the new mons were rarer because they were newly discovered. It sort of makes sense if you look at Johto as an expansion rather than a sequel. But it doesn't make it much better.