So where did it go wrong? At this point it isn't even a sandbox game anymore

So where did it go wrong? At this point it isn't even a sandbox game anymore

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>A sandbox game is a video game with a gameplay element that provides the player a great degree of creativity to interact with, usually without any predetermined goal, or alternatively with a goal that the player sets for themselves
What's the problem?

At least with Minecraft you can actually play the older versions. Be glad you're not a WoW player that has to put up with not being able to play older versions.
t. former WoW player

It's only gotten better.

the game died as soon as they removed the guaranteed beach spawns

Whe Notch decided to listen to reddit instead of Yea Forums and called these niggas 'endermen' instead of 'farlanders'

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beta 1.8
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What happened? I'm still playing 1.12.2 with mods

Pre beta 1.8
>start your world and start building whatever you want
Post beta 1.8
>make sure you get a renewable food source before you die
>get enough diamonds to build an enchanting table
>grind xp till you get the right enchants
>you may now play the game

You don't need enchants.
Finding any village provides food for weeks ingame with its abundant hay bales everywhere.
Worst you could say is you have to collect blocks before you build, but that was true then too.

>At this point it isn't even a sandbox game anymore
You really need to explain yourself, guy. I don't care how dumbed down you think it is how much of a contrarian shitheel do you have to believe to think minecraft isn't a sandbox game. Fucking Skyrim is techically a sandbox game.

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the game used to be designed around you doing whatever you wanted
It is now designed around you setting up a small base and doing the bosses
simple as

Why are you acting like Minecraft forces you into any of those things, you can get by just fine without the enchanting table.

>before
mine, craft
>now
gay shit

It's still a sandbox game
Creative mode exists for all you guys who just want to build
Survival adds a level of progression to the building phase and by nature has a bit of adventure too.
Honestly survival is still to barebones as is, and mojang takes too long between updates.

1.13 is when the game started to go downhill, 1.12.2 modded will always rein supreme.
even if it wasn't for hunger you would speedrun a renewable food source for healing. get outta here with that bullshit.

>ctrl+f hunger
>0 results
thought this was Yea Forums what happened

>It is now designed around you setting up a small base and doing the bosses
No? those are added benefits for those who want to do so. You can completely ignore them if you so please.

why are zoomers like this?

antihungerfags got BTFO a while ago

Adding beds killed the game by removing a ton of extrinsic motivation to get tougher or build safer homes.
Before beds the monsters would come to you at night ready or not. After beds you have to willingly seek out monsters by searching for them or refusing to use a bed.

Explain why Minecraft forces you into a specific style of play, because I don't think it has ever once did that at any point in the game's history. You can and always have been able to do whatever you want, none of that has changed just because there's some features added you don't like. The game isn't a sinking ship that barely even reseambles a sandbox anymore, you just don't like the XP and hunger mechanics and somehow that's the game's fault. It's also not the games fault that you refuse to use the option to download and play literally any version you want at anytime, why don't you just shut the fuck up and play beta if you love it so much?

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beds

How is seperating the mechankcs between healing potions and actual food a bad thing? People talk about the hunger adding bloat but if food worked the same way today it would all be fucking worthles once you gotten a proper potion making operation running. i get why some people find hunger annoying but you're a fucking retard if you think it's to the point where it ruins the whole game for you.

b1.8 had a sharp shift in game design that i just dont vibe with as much. it feels like everything that was added was intended for a completely different game. 1.0 was the nail in the coffin.
it feels like everything before then was so focused and unintrusive to the game's original feel.

calm down, he's just saying that Yea Forums loves to whine about hunger

i didn't mean to call him a fucking retard i was just saying that about hunger autists in general :(

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Probably the Nether Update. After that, Notch got increasingly lazy and added basically nothing good to the game. Although the vacation was already starting earlier when he stopped the friday updates

seriously? people are blaming BEDS?
>night comes
>"oh shit"
>dig a hole into a wall or sit ontop of a tree
>go do something irl or look at Yea Forums for seven minutes while waiting for night to pass if you are not ready for the horde

the problem is 1.13+, all of those versions have focused on just expanding content rather than adding new content with no reasonable reward or incentive to focus on the majority of that content outside of niche things such as speedrunning or redstone
conduits from 1.13? just a worse beacon
village overhaul in 1.14? only serves as a replacement for enchanting or tipped arrow crafting. and totems are just a crutch.
honey in 1.15? only good for redstone autists. we have a million other ways to cancel fall damage.
1.16 as a whole? ah yes, diamond+. thats exactly what we needed for the nether update. just adding a new ore for armor that gives mild usage to gold.
1.17? literally only added random blocks with ZERO practical use.
1.18? caves are way too fucking big now, they unironically dont feel like proper caves.
1.19? unless they pull off something like a new dimension, THREE YEARS FOR FUCKING STRONGHOLD 2 (and swamp but with new trees)

Just some things i'd like:
No structures. Spawners can stay.
No villagers/pillagers/piglins.
You are ALONE. With nothing to discover but the world generation.
This game is supposed to be a canvas, not a pre-planned adventure that the devs made for you.
Buff mobs so sprinting doesn't bypass them completely.
Zombies drop feathers again.
More isles and floating islands. (Fantasy Greece basically)
Return back to 1.7.3 grass color.
Better Boats.

Less Terraria, More Minecraft.

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If I recall, "Endermen" was Notch's idea and he wholesale rejected the community wanting to call them Farlanders.

Then he removed the Farlands and killed interesting world gen for years.

>i dont enjoy video game anymore so it isn't a sandbox :(((

Isnt turning off structures a default option? Unless they took it out.

>>go do something irl or look at Yea Forums for seven minutes while waiting for night to pass if you are not ready for the horde
I had to read the first part of your post twice to understand if you were for or against beds

is this autism?

Why did they decide to make sleeping mandatory in the game (if you want to avoid endless monster spawn)? Who the fuck asked for that

It wouldn't be that bad if they dropped anything worthwhile. Swooping arial mobs are awful, but you get nothing for dealing with them.

1.2.5 is the last good version of minecraft.

>just ignore the bar that kills you if you ignore it

Potions didn't exist before hunger. There was nothing to separate.

You can turn them off thankfully.

because it means you cant reliably heal yourself until you
>get to the nether
>run around for a few hours trying to find the nether fortress
>get some wort and soulsand
>kill blazes until they drop a few rods
>go back to the normal world
>kill endermen until you get a bunch of eyes
>use eyes to find which way the stronghold is
>run thousands of blocks until you find it
>clear it out (half the time it's generation is glitched and the rooms/staircases dont connect properly, requiring you to dig random tunnels to find unexplored sections
>find loot chests
>hope you find a melon seed
>run thousands of blocks back to your base without dying
>plant them
>now you can finally make health potions that heal 3 or 4 hearts

when back in the day all you had to do was
>find pig
>kill pig
>cook meat
>instantly fills half your health bar

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Agree completely, though I would cut the gordion knot and just remove sprinting

It's called creative mode you fucking dink

so mod it out, pussy

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>Just ignore the hunger bar that kills you
>Just ignore the flying things that spawn when you dont sleep
>Just don't go to the nether
>Just don't kill animals
>Just ignore all the biomes added after 1.8
>Just ignore all the structures that spawn in

>flying things
err.... what flying things?
the only flying mob is the Ghast, and you cant sleep in the nether....

right?

.....right!?

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Insomnia was declared illegal. All that refuse to pay respects to Dreamland will be cursed.

It didn’t go wrong. We have amassed thousands of hours. What do you want us to do, LIVE inside of Minecraft? Not possible yet. I want to return to minecraft some day, just not now. You are too speedy, speedy. Like a fast waiter, I took a sip of water, and haven’t touched it for 5 seconds. But in this case, I’ve drank the ocean already and been refilled many times. I’ve lost many Minecraft worlds due to out of date versions, losing a computer hard drive, to just wanting a new world and not going back.

It would have been good if we could just make quake 2 maps in something like minecraft mode.

There is a Linux first person shooter that attempts this, but it’s a bit too complicated.

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>WAHH THE GAME FORCES YOU TO BEAT IT BEFORE YOU CAN PLAY
like bro just make a cobblestone castle lmao nobody is fucking stopping you bro. build a farm. don't even go to the nether what the fuck. who cares. you're not forced to do anything. except turn phantoms off because Minecraft should've never added them

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Silk touch isn't really optional anymore.
When it was first added it was mostly for a few niche blocks but since like 1.13 fucking everything they add to the game requires it.

What user meant by hunger and health potions being separated is that health potions don't fill hunger

>want to make a new world
>spend 3 hours a night just resetting until i can find a village close to a mountain
i refuse to live anywhere except for a hollowed out mountain 10 seconds from a village

>make sure you get a renewable food source before you die
Just kill animals. Just plant some seeds. Easy
>get enough diamonds to build an enchanting table
not needed or forced
>grind xp till you get the right enchants
not needed or forced

You are artifically forcing yourself to do things because people tell you to do those things. You are a retard.

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You can place blocks in some TF2 Minecraft servers. Kinda simplistic, though.

Better than Adventure is the definitive Beta Minecraft experience.
If you haven't heard of this mod seriously consider giving it a try.

>i refuse to live anywhere except for a hollowed out mountain 10 seconds from a village
A Mt. Goatsee kind of man I see

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moreso i mean a mountain I can hollow out myself, i fucking hate the new world generation since cave update

>tells us to play a mod without describing it in anyway
Nice. I'll totally download it!

theres plenty of those too still around but I get the world gen not being for everybody. I love it because it feels crazy and Minecraft world gen hasn't felt crazy in a minute. I guess it got less crazy the more I noticed the patterns but it results in some breathtaking places sometime.

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Honestly the changelog is so big it's hard to describe it in one post.
It backports a lot of QoL shit from future Minecraft versions like the increased world height, HD texture support, Redstone blocks and QC and such but it runs on b1.7.3
Also it lets you use the old Indev world types if your that much of a fag.

If you enchanted you didn't beat the game

>You grew up
>You played too much, games aren't meant to be played forever
>The game got worse
>The game moved away from what it was originally supposed to be
I assume these are the 4 main complaints about the game, how much do each of them contribute to the current feelings of modern minecraft dislikers

>you didn't win at building sand castles
Sad, can't relate.

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>1.18? caves are way too fucking big now, they unironically dont feel like proper caves.
I hate you with every fiber of my being.

whoops didn't mean to quote anybody.

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I'd rather they buff mob speed and rail speed rather than remove sprinting.

The second, honestly.
I see an open sandbox and my head is filled with nothing.
I prefer to just wander and observe what other people build.
>what it was originally supposed to be
There was no tangible original vision for the game, only what you as a kid liked, so people who say this really are 1 and say they are 3.

Traveling on foot is slow enough even while sprinting.
Everything should go faster.
They are already experimenting with it with boot speed enchantments added to the staple speed potions.

>wants village next to mountains
>hates the update that finally added mountains
Are you retarded?