What did Guilty Queer do to manage to somehow stay competitive with the top fighting games and attract casuals that KOF couldn't do?
Fighting Games
Bentley Butler
Justin Flores
Losing 90% of your playerbase and more while doing worse than a shit literal-who game series like Guilty Gear and an especially shit game like Strive isn't good in any capacity. It's also not good seeing as it's not even 2 months from release.
Benjamin Brown
it looks good and normies like anime now
Zachary Roberts
You're making the biggest mistake by thinking the PC player base is somehow relevant to fighting games. When you get the active daily users for the other platforms, then we can start talking about this shit. Steam numbers are a fucking meaningless metric.
Leo Butler
>PC player base is somehow relevant to fighting games
it's the main platform for them
Nathaniel Wood
>than a shit literal-who game series like Guilty Gear and an especially shit game like Strive isn't good in any capacity.
Have you considered a fact that you might be a contrarian and people think its a good game and thats why they play it lol?
Bentley Adams
the cope has arrived kek. Only poor mexicans with mothers that send them to buy tortillas to the store play kof, a game for literal animals.
Brandon Long
>it's the main platform for them
Hahahahahahaha. Holy shit this is the most delusional thing I've seen in ages. No user, you've clearly never paid attention to the online health of fighting games on multiple platforms. The PC player base is always the smallest. The only thing the PC player base has over the other platforms is that it usually contains the strongest concentration of pro players, but they will always be in the minority by the simple factor they are pro players. You end up fighting the same hand full of people over and over again.
Nolan Young
Those same people also watch Maximilian Dood and also play Smash so I don't really care about their opinions on any game.
Shouldn't you be posting "TRANS RIGHTS" for Testament on your twitter right now?
Aiden Barnes
Does anyone have that image of Jack-O in lingerie, I-No in a slingshot bikini, and Millia in a leotard all sitting on a desk?
Henry Scott
>Those same people also watch Maximilian Dood and also play Smash so I don't really care about their opinions on any game.
I never played Nintendo game especially shit like Smash and I dont watch that nigger faggot Dood.I play Guilty Gear for over a decade now and I really like Strive.
Elijah Wood
Looks good, sounds good, kill fast and die fast,best netcode of any fighting game released in the past 5 years,not too much downtime when you decide to rematch
Kill yourself steamchart poster
Luke Rogers
i still wonder how fucking melty blood got almost 2x of new KoF's peak but also how it lost so many players instantly to this day despite them giving away DLC for fucking free lmao.
Ryder Jackson
s-strivesoys w-were outsold by my overlord snk-sama's snk heroines, hahahaha >:(( shatter all expectations >:(((
Mason Green
I like Strive and didnt played new KoF so I cant judge it as a game but you are obsessed nigger faggot spamming this shit in every single fighting game/KoF thread since its release. Get a life subhuman.
Chase Collins
>Holy shit this is the most delusional thing I've seen in ages.
cope
Kevin Morris
Does GGS still have the incredibly long connecting to server bs after you start up the game?
Colton Sullivan
>didnt played
Easton Phillips
I imagine a bunch of typemoon fags who never played the first game bought it and then realize they sucked at fighting games
Camden Cruz
No user, I know from experience and I know your experience is from watching too many Twitch ecelebs.
Nolan Martin
The latest patch dramatically improved the loading time.
Joshua Anderson
It works while kof online fucks up.
I can get a match in GG anytime besides right after maintenance in 10 seconds. Kof took 5 minutes even with 5k players. It's an offline game or a game you play in private match
Noah Reed
Its still long but I use totsugeki on PC so I never had problem with that shit.
No it didnt they improve it by like seconds patch by patch but its still long lmao.
Gavin Morales
It's not fun
Brody Brooks
Melty Blood had trendy memes and it being the next Fighting Game releasing after Strive. It also had lots of shilling from some of the FGC and people like Sajam/Majin Obama. KOF 15 basically had nothing Strive or Melty Blood did. It looked worse than both, didn't have any trendy thing but Shermie's reveal only for them to be retards and ride the momentum of it, and no real e-celebs were shilling except Maximilian Dood.
Liam Miller
kof fags don't want the "casuals" anyway, they constantly assure everyone else vehemently that casuals would only stink up their air and ruin their precious fighting game series
who needs numbers when you have friends, and family
Eli Torres
It plays good. I don't care what the braindead fgsheep say, KoF is wonky garbage that nobody in their right mind would play.
Hopping every 0.02secs is absolutely horrendous design and only spics enjoy it. The gameplay of KoF is a dumpster fire. But because it has hard inputs, you have to pretend it's good.
Chase Ward
kof xv is just amazingly ugly. the animations look stiff and the models look like shit. cool game but definitely affects the experience a little bit.
William Roberts
>no real e-celebs were shilling except Maximilian Dood.
user obama literally was shilling kof hard he even was doing pre-release gameplay streams from some event others also were talking and streaming it hard during first days of release. im suprised about its numbers because kof character trailers have more views than strives for example even non coomer chars do lol.
Nicholas Scott
peasants squabble as the true king reigns
Jacob Johnson
Oh yeah, forgot to add that it was also the 3rd new Fighting Game to release within a year after Strive stopped the drought of new ones for a while so the new Fighting Game dopamine that was going on wore off by then.
Luke Russell
That new version of shield is genuinely terrible, if I recall xrd had crouching blitz shield which costed the same meter for overdrives and rc's that used to work against mids and lows but they were smart enough to make it not work against mids later on. Kamone however is making it so you have more reasons to do the gay rps bullshit with the new patch since now you can shield after non invincible ex moves.
I dunno I got it december and the longest I've had to wait for the communicating server thing is like 13 seconds max
Adrian Long
Strive on ps4 has half the playerbase it has on pc source: the elo site
Tekken has the biggest player base on pc, source: Harada himself.
Only game I can see having a bigger playerbase on console is mk due to being casual dogshit and sfv because it was free on ps plus
Lucas Nelson
>they constantly assure everyone else vehemently that casuals would only stink up their air and ruin their precious fighting game series
What about any of that is untrue though? Strive is a boring braindead game filled with Smash players and non-heteros from the result of it being dumbed-down for casuals.
Evan Roberts
>Tekken has the biggest player base on pc, source: Harada himself.
Wasn't always the case. It has ended up that way, though there's lots of speculation that the numbers are because of bots farming chests in the single player mode.
Jaxson Reyes
how did brawlhalla do it?
Noah Wood
>How did a F2P game do it?
Isaiah Allen
kof is doing great.
strive however has the casual appeal while simultaneously turns pro players off, so its a scrub's paradise.
Justin Williams
Which pros hate it?
Jacob Morris
This but for some reason SNK fans keep pretending visuals don't matter and aren't a big factor in Fighting Games.
David Robinson
true. you can only be popular when your game looks beautiful like pic related.
Christopher Foster
>of course it's popular, it's f2p
Daniel Bennett
you are replying to actual tranny avatarfag using dizzy. dont bother.
Joseph Harris
Fantasy strike is genuine garbage in both looks and gameplay. Atleast brawlhalla lets me shoot a gun and is actually kind of fun even if I'd rather play anything else.
Alexander Phillips
That unironically looks more appealing to most people than KOF 15 does. Look at Terry right now and tell me his model doesn't look like ass. His armpit looks deformed.
Nicholas Jones
They dropped the ball with KoFXV with bad matchmaking, if the matchmaking were solved it would be at constant 2k
John Thomas
and kofxv must be exciting that people who are searching for mirth are flocking in droves to get down to the excitement
any other excuse, like "people only play kof on ps4" or something? so as to be self-assured that kofxv is still being played by more than just a few hundred a day
Carter Phillips
they need to fire some of them modelers with their horrible sense of anatomy and aesthetics
there are some who look allright/pretty good (for kofxv) and then there are quite a lot of models that just stick out like sore thumbs even now
i thought they had 6 years to polish this shit? i mean, "quality over quantity" as opposed to 50 fighters in kofxiv, right? pffffbt but where's the quality
...or did they mean QUALITY
Thomas Lee
Maybe people who play brawlhalla doesn't care about combat in games and just want to mash around
William Lee
This has been the case since Xrd and Tekken 7. Denying it is console remorse.
Angel Morales
>It's bad because I'm not good at it
user...
Cooper Lewis
Right time in the right place. One of the smash clones thats on a non-nintendo platform was bound to get popular and brawlhalla happened to be it. I hear it has decent dev support as well
Cameron Davis
>That unironically looks more appealing to most people than KOF 15 does
no. shitty clip art in motion does not look better than lol ps2 graphics. everyone thought XIV was ugly but no one other than Yea Forums denizens feels that way about XV.
Alexander Ross
>gorgeous visual effects
>kofxv
hehahahehehe
Nicholas Reyes
>no one other than Yea Forums denizens feel that way about XV
holy cope dude. it's not a bad game but there's no sense lying to yourself about its visuals they're really really mediocre at the very best. the only potential upside is that there's a lot of visual clarity to the moves but that's just being gracious. comparing it to fucking brawlhalla which also looks like shit doesn't prove anything.
Aiden Gray
everyone memed on ps2 andy with XIV but i've seen absolutely nothing similar with XV. if it's such a huge issue, don't you think people would make noise about it like they did previously? but all i see the same guy on Yea Forums posting the same "work-in-progress" screenshot of terry from the reveal trailer.
Grayson Price
Where do I start when picking up fighting games?
Combos? Defense? Terminology?
Jackson Miller
You can't see KOF's real numbers because all the players are in various lavanderia arcades instead of steam.
Evan Wilson
>thinking every fighting game has a huge PC community
KoF isnt that big in the west (USA) so most of the top players are mexico and below, and are on console not PC.
honestly crazy that most of these have bounced back and are above these early numbers of avg players now or at one point in their lives
Oliver Ramirez
Strive is pretty easy to get into, there's some depth but even very braindead attack attack attack special combos can deal 1/3+ depending on the character. It also probably has one of the better online experiences for a fighter besides the initial connecting to servers bit
Colton Turner
learn to block, like literally block everything even on wake up
then learn your buttons range
then learn what to do when you are knockdown in the ground
then learn how to knockdown people with throws and sweeps
then learn a very basic combo to do when someone gets countered, in this step i would recommend to just join in ranked and see which buttons make you get guarantee hits and then see if you can combo out of them, see which buttons make you feel comfortable
then learn a blockstring, this is basically a combination of buttons that have certain range or certain pushback or certain advantage in momentum that lets you not get countered
then learn to pressure after you knockdown someone so you can get the momentum going
congrats you can actually play the mind game instead of labbing combos for 30 hours and wondering why you cant connect anything
Austin Fisher
why are we talking about "noise" on twitter or some shit just use your eyes and look at the game bro. it looks fucking bad for a modern fighter period.
Thomas Richardson
>though there's lots of speculation that the numbers are because of bots farming chests in the single player mode
its hilarious that /fgg/ schizos think katsuhiro "they use buzzwords like rollback, and netcode" harada would put anywhere near enough effort to fuck with bots. if you want to know what a highly botted game looks like just see team fortress 2s player numbers
Gabriel Stewart
Defense. Don't worry about combos, just look up terminology as it comes. The hardest thing to learn in every fighting game is defense. In any fighting game, if you just block, the average person will kill themselves doing unsafe things trying to get to you.
Leo Ortiz
He doesn't look any better after release user. Being a work-in-progress did fuck-all.
Zachary Ramirez
buttons or moves have certain properties that make them good, they either
>generate enough pushback that its hard to reach you after you land them on block, this is a poking tool that can be used as a spacing trap (meaning the pushback makes the next move of your opponent whiff and then you intercept and counter him)
>generate enough momentum by making your opponent be in a long blockstun after they block it, these leave you with enough time to follow up while your opponent is forced to just block, they make you have frame advantage by moving sooner and letting you do more pressure, these moves usually are very short in range and are used to do frame traps
>they are fast enough so you can interrupt your opponent before he does something, think of jabs
>they are easy to confirm for combos because of long hitstun, like a medium punch or a low medium kick
Aiden Harris
It tried this crazy thing called being fun and accommodating new players. KOF15 flopping has absolutely BTFO out of every 09er dipshit saying fighting games would be better off if they regressed like 15 years.
Charles Jones
The entire reason KoF dropped in players is the matchmaking issues, the gameplay in Strive is actually ass
Carter Nelson
Strive's lobbies quite literally didn't work on launch, the issues with its online were far worse than KOF15's. You literally had to leave lobbies and rejoin sometimes because the game just wouldn't let you match with anyone at complete random. Keep coping.
Jaxon Kelly
Sure Pedro its just matchmaking and visuals or whatever a fact it had twice smaller peak than fucking toilet tier Melty Blood before people even knew about matchmaking or whatever you cope with is also a sole reason of such a small peak too.
Isaiah Hall
If Street Fighter VI isn't F2P, with quality matchmacking and netcode, then Riot is going to take the fighting game throne when Project L comes out. Just FYI.