How do we fix the Johto games, Yea Forums?
How do we fix the Johto games, Yea Forums?
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they're already perfect
Bring back the slot machines.
Why is this a thing lately?
people want to cancel lugia
unovafags and galarshills mad that a 20 year old gameboy game is more universally praised than their games which they feel are "objectively better"
recently, the johto games have been ruthlessly nitpicked for minor shit that is either existent in other pokemon games or just blatantly false.
e.g. gen 1 also lacks a proper narrative-driven story, but for some reason it's only a problem when gen 2 does it, gen 4 and 5 have major pokemon distribution issues, but for some reason it's a problem when gen 2 adds a few new pokemon to the postgame as a reward while offering 72% of the total pokemon that existed at the time before the elite four
Based. Ho-Oh is better anyways.
...
Name one thing Ho-Oh has over Lugia.
You can type out numbers on mspaint, you retard
Literally everything
Not plagued by a fanbase of degenerate feetfags like yourself nigger
His theme song in the remake is amazing
>His
Its,sorry
All legendary pokemon are male
Females cannot be legendary due to them being worthless
I think the distribution thing is only something that became a problem over time. In its time, I'm sure it was fine for a lot of the pokemon in the region to be from Kanto, but now, I want to play pokemon games for the new pokemon, and if like half of the new pokemon are in the postgame, then it's hard to justify.
lol heart gold and soul silver are $200+
the best games in the series don't need fixes
It's already been fixed. This is the pinnacle of Pokemon game design.
>if like half of the new pokemon are in the postgame
6 lines out of 50 introduced.
Stop fucking spreading this lie.
Any fun hack game based on gen 2 that has black Jinx
Same for gen 3
I would never touch this based on this incredibly faggy title screen alone.
Why care about the amount of pokemon if they're all shit with shit stats? All the gen 2 pokemon have shit stats and moves and aren't fun to use.
1. Increase slot machine payouts and payout speed, make slot machines timing-based instead of "fuck you it's impossible to win unless 2% luck lets you get a jackpot"
ALTERNATIVELY
1. Introduce game corner minigames that are actually fun and don't take 2000 years to earn a single TM
2. Make just about every non-legendary pokemon obtainable in some way before the 4th-6th badge
ALTERNATIVELY
2. Make the Elite Four only after obtaining all 16 badges and spread the pokemon in a similar way but with higher levels in Kanto to make up for the level disparity of starting training a new pokemon in the late game.
3. Change useless TMs to useful ones and increase movepool size (i don't give a fuck about competitive balance, suck my dick)
4. Make the cursor of the item menu able to go from the top to the bottom by pressing up from the top item and vice-versa (why the fuck isn't that already a feature)
5. Remove Unown and make Ruins of Alph actually interesting by making new pokemon that aren't shit appear there, give it a little side story or something
6. Remove baby pokemon entirely and add a couple new pokemon in their stead. Maybe Gorochu or something.
7. Make scizor green again. Red scizor can be the shiny. Greenfags have been shafted enough. Pic related.
That pokemon is cool and cute
>fix
They're the best games in the series.
Go shill your dogshit on /vp/ nobody cares
Go play a Fagrano hack if you want all thay bloatshit. Fuck off. These games are made with non-autists in mind.
Ho-Oh is 4x weak to rock :(
There are all of like 2 rock moves in the game
Ho-oh is walled by Ttar.
90% of that was merely tweaking the game rather than bloating it with new content but I assume you are just shitposting to look cool
I'm only defending swinub
He can learn earthqake you retard.
>143/649 = 21.98%
Wait...did you expect a main campaign of only 156 new pokemon to have anything more than that? These calculations are disingenuous, because they take away the context of each game. Plus, you used Crystal's dex, because I know you can't get Sneasel until Mt. Silver and Route 28 in GC.
The creator of Lugia was reportedly very depressed to hear them voice Lugia as a male because he always envisioned Lugia as a caring, protective female. That said, Lugia also has had a baby, and males can’t lay eggs.
interactive lugia sex game
Lugia is female, she has a baby in the anime
Sounds like the creator of Lugia is a massive fag.
The anime is a different canon to the games.
I never finished it but it's close enough to get the gist.
>third versions don't count... except emerald, platinum, b2w2 and usum
another example of unfairly picking out johto
why do you have to replace all the kanto pokemon with johto pokemon arbitrarily? faggots like you ruin the games with your autism. clefairy fit whitney's "cute and pink" theme perfectly, yet you go and replace it with sentret and fucking aipom because muh kanto pokemon not allowed in the literal kanto sequel. go fuck yourself nigger, and fuck you for writing all that out. kys.
i played gen 1 first but something about gen 2 has way more SOVL to it. there is something so magically comfy about it. maybe it's the day/night cycle, maybe it's the more rural setting compared to gen 1, i dunno.
Where's B2W2's dex in that pic? I don't see Lucario or Arcanine in there. If you going to use Crystal's dex to cheat, at least fact-proof it because you can't get Ampharos in Crystal.
I thought I'd like this hack, but I couldn't stop myself from trying to boss rush all the gyms with items and ended up with a level 40 arcanine fighing level 55 leaders and just gave up.
4/10
Fix?
That was a different Lugia
The music was a big step up. Most of the R/B/Y songs only began to shine when everyone and their mom started making orchestral arrangements of them. Meanwhile G/S/C's music was very memorable even right there on the GBC soundchip.
It's better in VGC.
Legends are genderless.
Better Pokemon spread in the Johto side. A Vs. Seeker like Platinum, and make trainers and gym leaders higher leveled with more Pokemon all around. New routes would also be great. HGSS's additional route to the Safari Zone was peak Pokemon. Give me more of that.
Legendaries should be presumed to be both genders unless otherwise specified.
They're not "genderless" like the US tards made them, they're "unknown gender". As in, they are rare so the Pokémon world humans haven't been able to study them to be able to figure out what's what.
Pokémon are just animals and they compared the study of them to zoology constantly.
That's what they mean by them mixing in Canalave Library. Humans and Pokémon evolved from the same fucking thing just like humans did is what that means, regardless of what some furfag wants to believe.
TTar isn't going to stay in against Ho-Oh because it risks getting burned by Sacred Fire.
>metagaming pvp in a dumbass children's adventure game
why don't poketards just play a game that was actually designed for this purpose
they're excellent games and I love them.
They clearly have a gender, you will never be a non-binary pokémon
>How do we fix the Johto games, Yea Forums?
The nonlinarity for gyms 5, 6, and 7 hurt it more than it helps because it prevents proper balancing.
Sentret and Aipom are also cute and fit the being a gym leader in Johto theme better.
I do it to fix the games.
>unovafags
Blatant trolling from gen 6 discordfags on /vp/, their discord always makes anti-gen 5 threads and tries to set 2 and 5 fags against eachother because those games are so often regarded as the best compared to gen 6, which most people agree was ass.
It doesn't at all. That's what badge flags are for.
You're just a lazy retard like Game Freak was. Although to be fair, you may be worse. I haven't looked at the exact compilation of the ROM. For the originals it may have not been possible to do so, but it definitely was for HG/SS.
fuck off with your smogshit autism
the non linearity of gens 1 and 2 is what makes them fun and replayable
Fix this shit first and foremost.
Then, fix trainers. Fewer Metapods and Kakunas, give the gym leaders at least one gen 2 Pokemon each.
>having wild pokemon not be 20 levels below yours
>smogon autism
RBY songs are good, I'm playing jap blue right now and the melodies are good
>gen 1 also lacks a proper narrative-driven story, but for some reason it's only a problem when gen 2 does it
Holy fuck, thank you
>Replayable
Why would you replay them if not randomizing the rom or playing a nuzlocke run?
>Try new pokes
Yeah, right
This image is misinformation as it does not include fishing and headbutt encounters.
Also
>pic rel
Go fuck yourself autist.
to catch them all again?
HG/SS fixed the pokemon distribution with safari zone and pokewalker, but made the level curve a little worse because they removed badge boosts. The johto gym leaders could have better teams but bugsy and falkner are the only really bad ones imo.
I played through both heart gold and crystal and still love these games and johto is still my favorite despite small flaws.
What's a good GB emulator?
Sure
Gen 2 pokemon didn't feel special, more often then not they felt inferior to Kantomons because they were weaker and had shitter movepools.
It includes literally all of them, look at rows 1 and 4
>>pic rel
If you don't have an argument to make, don't bother replying
MGBA and visualboy advance are both good
Literally whataboutism. Other pokemon games sucking doesn't make gen 2 better. Gen 2 has a horrible roster of pokemon to make your team out of. If it isn't a baby pokemon or a pokemon that cannot evolve, it's either an evolution for a Kanto Pokemon or it cannot be obtained in the very late game. There's a reason everyone has samey teams when they play Johto: Their starter, ampharos or lanturn, quagsire or red Gyarados, espeon or umbreon, maybe crobat, perhaps a Kantomon of your choice. Every other pokemon either has shitty stats, shitty move pools, or cannot be obtained before the E4.
Nonlinearity is cool and should be way more common in Pokemon, but user is right that shit balancing is Johto's biggest problem.
>>Try new pokes
>Yeah, right
No one else's fault you're boring
BGB or mGBA (if you must have printer support)
I mean it's fucking Xatu. I can't blame them for giving him a shit movepool. Look at this fuck.
>HG/SS fixed the pokemon distribution with safari zone and pokewalker
It really didn't since the SZ is located in one specific area in the later half of the Johto portion of the map, and you have to meet requirements to unlock more pokemon there.
Maybe this is bias, but I find the selection of mons for BW to have a lot more Pokémon I’d actually be willing to use on a team compared to some of the other larger pools like GSC or DPP. I’ve never really noticed other people’s teams that I’ve seen for BW have a samey-ness syndrome.
No it doesn't. It's missing
>Swarm encounters for Qwilfish and Remoraid
>Fishing encounters for Chinchou and Corsola
>Headbutt encounters for Pineco, Heracross and Aipom
>Crystal encounters for Sentret, Sneasel, Teddiursa, Phanpy, Marill and Snubbul
But sure, keep spamming your disingenuous autism image. Nigger.
>the picture that killed 6 million West Kanto sissies
>and you have to meet requirements to unlock more pokemon there.
You can get Houndour and Larvitar as soon as you unlock the first blocks.
Also
>It really didn't since the SZ is located in one specific area in the later half of the Johto portion of the map
Goddamnit what the fuck is wrong with you autists that you can't even be bothered to explore new areas. No wonder the new games are so dumbed down.
>why?
Because soloing the entire game with a starter is fucking boring and is only done by 4 year olds and speedrunners.
>Stuck with Future Sight until level 65 with stats that shitty
What did they mean by this?
>learns psychic without a tm
>most psychic poke in gen 1 nedeed it to learn it
The only thing missing here is a good flying move, but even then most grass and bug pokemons are poison so whatever
pokemon distribution and poor overall levels of trainers/gym leaders. you hit the midgame and suddenly everything is within 10 levels of each other, and add another 10 on top of that for the elite four, and their lineup is awful. kanto games weren't great about it either, but they still gave you some sense of progression, and a decent amount of the gym leader aces could fuck you in the ass sometimes, meanwhile the only thing people remember from gen 2 was the miltank
You can get the Psychic TM as soon as you get to Kanto. But of course, you would know that if you actually played the games.
GO FUCK YOURSELF BOT
They meant for you to use TMs on it dumbass.
>this kills the swshtranny
but the ones that did learn it in gen 1 would learn it at considerably lower level than 65. you have to beat the entire game to even think about getting xatu psychic from a level up
>names his files
lmao do you not know how to just make folders
Spreading those mons across all of Johto and actually making them more accessible which gives you an incentive to explore more is better than putting them all in one place
>you have to wait until postgame to make your Johtomon less shit
LMAO
I use the low level trainers to train my underleveled pokemon
>Three Johto pokemon, two of which are new Kanto mom evolutions
What more proof do you need that Johto has the lousiest pokemon selection in the series?