How to ruin PvP in one simple step

You call others children yet you are the one throwing a temper tantrum.
Time for introspection.

>Twinking was a genuinely fun mechanic that rewarded players with the skills to beat the game at a low level
Except that never happened, twinks just edited their saves or had edited save characters drop items for them.

what that guy said twinking will never deserve an ounce of respect until dropping items and CE niggers are removed from the game

I prefer playing against people of all different skill levels
Fairness and balance aren't fun to me

>buy elden ring
>summon friend to mess around
>get invaded
>it's a poison/bleed nigger
>he spends 10 minutes running away trying to get us to run into the knight at the starting area and getting in cheap shots to apply the debuffs

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what does the pic even mean?
what does +5 means? that the level range I'll invade will be +5 levels?
what the fuck does 5 levels even matter then? how is that worth a +25 weapon?

brainlet here. if i picked up Rogier's rapier, how high can my weapons go? +9?

So just ignore him and head for the boss?
Invaders are meant to be treated as extensions of the enemies

>doing PvP
>in a souls game
kek

Rogier's rapier is a +8 weapon, so you can be matched with weapons from +5 (8-3) to +12 (8+4).

that would require me to know where the boss is

So just play normally and explore?

This would be a great system if it didn't count weapons stored at bonfires.

that's what I'm trying to do

you mean twinks that got shit dropped for them or edited in items.
you can still do that in ER, in fact twinking is still powerful.
Get 4 talisman slots, get w/e spells/gear you need and go invade in stormveil and 1 shot noobs if you want.

It rewarded nothing. You just mule items over to your invasion character. People still do this with twink protection, I've fought 3 dudes with double madness spears, and invaders & blues will obviously be very familiar with the Limgrave Rivers of Blood build.

Step 1: Remove being able to drop weapons, talismans, and armor if there is another player in the world you're in right now
Step 2: Match invading to rune level, and scale weapon levels down to match. This rewards low level players for making it to the lategame and getting those weapons while keeping it fair for hosts
Step 3: Turn the Recusant spirits' color to black. Make the objective of Bloody Fingers to eliminate another player, not necessarily just the host (Bloody Fingers spill blood for Mohg and the Formless Mother). Recusants' objective is still to eliminate the host (To rebel against the Erdtree).

cry about it

Remove the ability to drop weapons at all. There's no point to this functionality. The only thing that makes sense to drop is poison healing during co-op, and removing even that would not be a loss. Leaving items on the ground is a carryover from the Demon's Souls inventory weight limit that's been moved from game to game and has little reason to exist outside of twinking.

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I don't get why they can't just scale your upgrade level to whatever the host has so you would never get any wild damage imbalances. They could even do it with Rune/Soul Level too and just reduce your stats based on the order in which you levelled them. This would solve all matchmaking problems and just make it take a little longer to load in.

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that's some shit design right there
what's with zoomers and making everything into an esport ?

then duel, nigger

It would open up more co-op and PvP instead of all these retarded restrictions forcing you to be a certain level or whatever. But they would have to balance other stuff too.

they dont play normal sports so have no idea what competition is and that its not vidya

Funny, because you don't want competition (a fair fight between two equal opponents), you just want to one shot people with broken shit.

>oh boy I love rpgs and collecting resources
>I really need to upgrade my character and his weapons/armor so I can ... emhh ...
do you not see the issue here ?

thx

No? There is no issue. You can collect those things and still be stronger in PvE.

based, fuck duelfags. Most of my best memories of DS1 were from random wacky-ass invasions, and they're a big reason why I found that game so replayable. I hate that """invasions""" have been neutered so hard, having to manually invite people to invade your world totally removes the fun from it.

I agree user.
When I played Dark Souls for the first time it was the "Prepare to Die" edition. I knew nothing about it really. I knew about invasions and PvP, but it didn't occur to me that people could stay low-level, run into high-level areas to kill a mob for dope gear, and then remain low level with twink'd up items.

It made invasions interesting because you couldn't predict the level of threat you would encounter. Even then gear was just one aspect, but there are equal odds you could run into somebody playing deprived who is so fucking good at the game, they kill you with their bare fists. Or it could be somebody decked out in chaos gear. Or it could be somebody with an average build at your own level. There was no way to know, and the uncertainty of the added some fear and excitement to encounters.
Unfortunate to hear they've removed the fear and threat of uncertainty, and replaced it with the comfort of fairness and balance for crybaby faggots who shouldn't be playing the game anyways.

>only checks weapon pluses
>not spells and abilities
>can still twink with full power dragon incantations and sorceries

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great
never share your opinion again please

>Twinking rewards players who beat the game at a low level

I mean, people can use the wrong warp glitch from Perfumer's Grotto to get higher upgrade materials, so your point is invalid.

>NOOOO I CAN'T GANK NEW PLAYERS WITH MY MAXED OUT WEAPONS
lol

Yeah, you got no response because you know I'm right.

who cares
ds2 was literally the only From game with good pvp

I got Rogier's rapier when the max I could do on my own was +5 or so. Guess I won't be playing in multiplayer for the next 40 hours.

Exempt the couple +8 or 9 weapons you're given by NPCs if you store that weapon away. Problem solved.

This isn't how you ruin PvP you dense fuck, the way to ruin PvP is to invite me to your game or leave it open for me to join. I will screw you when you least expect it, one moment you have the win in your hands, the next I am stealing it away from you and giving it to the other guy. And there is nothing you can do to stop me ahhahahahahaha

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When I invade I have to deal with someone 20 levels higher than me who summoned 2 friends to help him. So I'm level 20 using a +3 weapon and my opponent is level 40 using a +5 weapon with 2 level 50 phantoms helping him with +9 weapons.
I just feel bad because even when people invade me I know I automatically win.

why are level differences even a thing in pvp?
why not scale both players to make it competitive?

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Why do people rebuild things they know are going to be destroyed? Why do people cling to life when they know they can't live forever?

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it's such a dumb suggestion
the entire appeal of rpgs is getting your character stronger
your suggestion is to remove the rpg element entirely so most of the game's mechanics are now pointless in pvp
it's as if I started playing WoW and got a full geared character so I can go farm arenas from the getgo
>gee I sure love rpgs !
it's dumb, you're dumb, go play cod or something

Because players who are further in the game have more spells, armor and general possibilities. Stuff that can't always be scaled down, like you can't scale down Azur Comet

NAOAAAAOOOOAOAOAOAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO LET ME GANK LEVEL 1 PLAYERS OR ELSE THERE'S NO SOUL

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you obviously didnt play when twinking was a thing considering everyone just used mules and abused shit like great conflag maxed pyromancy gloves to oneshot literal noobs

It's a better system than it used to be
Twinking with a +5 lightning battleaxe on a sl1 was funny but overall resulted in not very fun fights
I do wish you could box or delete weapons and your calculation would go back down though

Souls series is no longer for you. How does that make you feel?

I didn't even know Elden Ring had pvp until after I beat the game and someone here told me you have to enable it with an item or something.
I was popping rune arcs the entire game hoping that someone would invade me that isn't an NPC.

>muh numbers
super easy to scale in pvp

It isn't about muh numbers, it's about muh hitboxes

kys nigger

Cope trannie

yes and thats why from software pvp will never be alive again there will only be gay ass duel crap that has no consequence

You're entire argument is retarded because there already IS a form of scaling where you can only invade at certain Rune and weapon ranges. So I guess the game mechanics are already pointless by your logic. My suggestion just removes the stupid limitations and scales things to the host so you don't get retarded shit like invading someone who has better weapons and higher levels than you.

>make a SL10 character
>invade at the castle at the bottom of the map with the Leonine Misbegotten and Stormveil
>invasions are literally instant
>weird and crazy builds from the hosts summoned friends
>never run into the same type of build twice in a row
>a lot more options for ways to build your character
>nobody is one shotting anyone outside of the rare RoB user, which sadly do still show up, but are far more rare.

literally endless fun, just had a game where I was chasing a host and his 2 friends when one friend drank the kamikaze flask and ran at me and got me, gave me a big laugh.

so if I'm reading this right, if I want to invade people who haven't upgraded their weapons the highest I could upgrade is +3?

if you want to mow down enemies who can't fight back just play dynasty warriors man

i'll play demon's souls and you can post the same 3 wojak images on 4channel nigger