Pros and casuals alike are constantly complaining about shield

>pros and casuals alike are constantly complaining about shield
>they decide to buff in the most recent patch
Incredible how much they decided to fuck this game up

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Because that's what the game is. Shield is the focus
You either like it or you don't.

japanese devs are like this sometimes

I'm annoyed that the one FG that gives us free DLC characters is a shit game

It's french bread's way of saying,
"Nasu's restrictions are retarded so we're making the game garbage so we could work on UNI when Lumina fails"

what does shield do

I dunno, after CLR and now this, I'm starting to get the impression that Kamone is actually just bad at balancing

I have faith in Kamone even if clr was pretty bad and Melty was forgettable.
I think UNI 2 has a chance of being very good since it already has the foundation that people like with the tug of war style meter. I hope most characters will get a rework so it's different.

I'm so glad this game is dead, fuck fate shit

They didn't really buff it, at least from the shitty translations. If anything the shield itself is probably worse, there's more recovery on whiff, getting shielded is more reactable, and you can delay heat to bait shield OSs
But because of the way they handled it shields and the rps are going to be even more significant so it's still awful and I don't really want to play the game.

>so we could work on UNI when Lumina fails
But it didn't fail? It's probably one of their best selling games ever at over 280k and the reason the DLC is free.

They did buff it
You can now cancel into shield on EX moves (provided they aren't invincible) and you can move after B shield followup when you're in the air
Plus, I'd say the extra time you to get when you shield is a buff

new designs are garbage
might kyoani type moon desu

pls understand takeuchi hit his head on a rock and forget how to draw

This game honestly is complete trainwreck and sold so much off VN hype in japan,meme cat on twitter and off certain western fgcucks shilling it and hyping it up to oblivion. Its insane how it has almost twice bigger peak than new KoF on steam and how fast it lost players beating even dbfz that lost 80% from peak in just 2 weeks.

Fate is the worst thing to ever happen to anime kys shill

I forgot about getting air actions back after shield B, although it sounds like it's more of a fix for doing an air shield RPS sequence and the guy that picked B getting forced into being vulnerable after the attacks whiff so it might not come up often.
Being able to shield after EX moves isn't a buff for shield, it's a buff for EX moves. If anything it's a nerf for shield because now you don't just get a free punish by shielding so the average reward on shield is lower.
Which would sound nice, except it still just means there's going to be even more random shield RPS going on and it's going to interrupt the pace of the match even more since it has slowdown on it.

I could never get into this game because it took so long to practice fundamentals so I wouldn't get randomed out by shield or moon drive or invincible moves that every new player had already quit and the only ones left were old tryhards.

Something that amuses me about this game is that NOBODY FUCKING BLOCKS ON WAKEUP
Holy shit it's a constant barrage of
>wake up shield
>wake up moon skill
>wake up moon drive
>wake up DP
>wake up 2A
>wake up Heat
This game is a masher's paradise

Lumina is somehow(congrats kamone) even more braindead than Soive and if that doesnt tell you something i dont know what will.

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It lets you draw two cards

Blocking on wakeup gets you grabbed, brosoleo

I'm having fun

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In nu melty it's either full unga or nothing

All beaten by shield btw

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I don't give a shit about tranime pedo "games" , just came by to say women are narcissists

Lobby?

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No Neko Arc=no buy

Go back

>It actually unironically plays and wants to play poomina
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Do you have some sort of program that scans for that image to say that or something?
and there's absolutely nothing pedophilic about melty blood type lumina no siree

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Kamone has always been bad at balancing, he just happened to get lucky with UNI[ST] and even that game didn't have perfect balance either. UNICLR is arguably better balanced than [st] is but just isn't as fun because of the few questionable decisions they made like buffing Vatista and Seth for whatever fucking reason.

MBAACC, Dengeki, and Lumina all have extremely questionable balance decisions as well.

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I wish I could get a refund.

>melty troon is a redditjak poster
Makes sense.

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You can buy any character in SFV with the in game currency

Didn't they gut the rate of earning said currency

I didn't say Lumina.

the reason why it's free is because nobody fucking plays it anymore

Melty players are mad that it plays too much like undernight
Undernight players are mad because it plays like melty
And then they added dumb shit like autocombos

UNI has autocombo (smart steering). The problem with MBTL autocombo is that any combination of repeated buttons leads to the autocombo whereas for UNI it's tied to a single button. Also shield options are much stronger/different in MBTL compared to UNI. Melty has always been faster than UNI too along with many more mechanics to work with.

>one fate character in it
>REEE FUCK FATE REEE
I wonder what he meant by this

its all fucking fateshit same art same retardation same creator

It was killed in the cradle when they were forced to use the demake designs.
Took already plain designs and made them completely sterile.

>when I got a lot of "Don't kill Vegeta", I deliberately killed him.
Meh. The Dragon Balls negated basically any death in that series.

Ono san is involved so terrible decisions should be a given

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>pros
lmao Imagine being a professional melty blood player

can someone explain to me what is the flowchart in MBTL with shield that it makes it so bad to play? I play other fighting games so im curious because from videos you can't tell which even shield is in the first place

KOF15 is releasing a free character in like a week, but nobody cares about that shit game either.

Which fgs do you play so I can make a good comparison?

It's hilarious how true this is because I know plenty of people that are top players in AC and UNI and they hate Poomina for being this weird mish-mash between MBAAAC and UNI

sfv, dbfz
its like... faultless defence but it fucks up frame advantage or something? Im curious I have no idea what it is

>bought this shit on full price because I was riding high on the AACC hype I was feeling
>pretty much killed whatever desire I had to play fightans for months
If Kamone was in front of me I'd make sure he'd never, ever forget the feeling of an ice pick being hammered on your frontal lobe.

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You can shield any attack by holding down D with no timing needed. It comes out frame 1 after your block or wakeup.

If you shield, you don't get a free action like a 3s parry/sc guard impact.

Instead you literally pick a button for rock, paper, or scissors.

Meanwhile, the attacker can shield your RPS selection back at you.

Its really annoying to freeze the screen over and over, and all you can pick is 3 choices. Unlike in other games where you have a free action after a party.

And then there's clash frames, autocombos, landing lag, os heavy gameplay, etc. It's a party game where you try to epically shield each other back and forth.

Ok, none of those work so I'll do my best with nothing.
Shield in Lumina is way too strong. It's a resourceless parry that you can hold for some 10 seconds, and if you do it crouching you parry lows, mids, heat(Melty's version of a burst), supers, and fucking command grabs (but I don't remember if this one is legit, my memory is a bit fuzzy).
And you have some follow ups to capitalize on your successful shield, but the opponent can cancel their moves into shield. So after you did your shield followup, they shielded it, so now they get to do their shield followup, but you can also cancel that into your own shield and so on and so forth. You have 3 options, and one which uses 50% of one of your resources.
Shield works way too fucking well in so many occasions it's actually a legitimate strategy to do shield on their wakeup for half the match. Every match is this mishmash of neutral into shield rock paper scissors until someone gets a hit, maybe combo out if it, repeat 13 times.
And you can't cancel the shield into a special move like the old melty did. So you're stuck into this unfun RPS whether you use the shield or not. It's infuriating. It's unfun. Kamone's vision is that of a senile 90yr old cunt who thinks they're still perfectly fine to drive on a busy city. They're giving the DLC for fucking free because people just go to other fighting games, the most dedicated even falling back to AACC which is still better despite the myriad of jank and balancing hiccups.

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Here's a video to better exemplify the RPS I'm talking about. Now imagine dealing with this more or less a dozen times every match, knowing you're going off purely on reads and luck.

that sounds too forced for gameplay sake, like some sort of KI combo breaker thats only based on luck and guessing instead of reading

No, you can't shield command throws. Also whiffed shields cost a bit of moon meter.

Thanks for the correction.

wasn't it a nerf though?