Why did you let pixel art die

Yes, it looks like shit so you shouldn't have paid for it if you didn't want to encourage the practice, Cave Story looks far better, was also made by one man, didn't need a Kickstarter, and was free.

Left technically looks better here, but the situation is more nuanced. There's a very clear amount of soul emanating from right. And snow levels are always comfier than generic grasslands. I think Toby is eking out a win here.

There are great pixel art games if you know where to look. This one looks really impressive:

kickstarter.com/projects/oldbit/meifumado

pretty much everything on the right looks like shit because it was drawn by untalented artists who also lack knowledge in pixel art techniques.

>There's a very clear amount of soul emanating from right
No

>think Toby is eking out a win here.
Also no

Cave Story's been sold a million times though, his fault for not jumping on the opportunity sooner.

Also pirating for any other reason besides not giving a fuck is cringe.

>Cave Story's been sold a million times though
Yes, the versions with even better graphics, the original is still free

>Also pirating for any other reason besides not giving a fuck is cringe.
kys normalfag zoomie

Probably bought assets. No way they were designed by the same person who did the ground and characters.

i have thoroughly played through and enjoyed cave story: it is not a great looking game. better looking than undertale? most of the time. not better looking than kero blaster, though. not exactly a high standard for pixel art.

One of these days Nintendo will try to remake MC in 3D and we’ll all have a good laugh/sob

>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE A BELOVED AND MASSIVELY SUCCESFUL GAME WITHOUT THE SAME QUALITY ART AS SNES GAMES WITH MILLION DOLLAR BUDGETS, ART IS REALLY HECKING IMPORTANT
>HEY WHY DID YOU JUST LAUNCH MICROSOFT PAINT. DONT YOU HECKING DARE JUST CONJURE UP SOME SHITTY PIXEL ART... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

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this
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earthbound romhacks do not count as games

Pic related is over two decades old. Compare that to the right side image in OP's post. Why are indies so objectively lazy and ugly?

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>it is not a great looking game
It's better looking than Undertale despite being free and made by one man, which is the point, it's not an excuse

>not exactly a high standard for pixel art.
Of course not, it's the bare minimum, if your game looks worse than Cave Story it deserves to be free or pirated

Don't try and produce and sell games unless you're willing to put in the effort. Using "muh passion" as an excuse not to either learn art or not hire anyone to do it for you is not an excuse to cover up your abilities.
youtube.com/watch?v=CVEuPmVAb8o

>nooo you must pay for shit because.. you just have to okay?!?? I'm a silly dumb zoooomer

Ah yes, the soulless zionist ghoul is telling me to get a job. No wages means no wagies faggot.

toby's worth several million dollars and had his characters he drew in 5 minutes appear in super smash bros. pirating his games you probably werent even going to buy anyway out of spite isn't affecting him at all lol

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He overshot his Kickstarter by 10x, he could've easily commissioned a good artist, the amount of unique assets in Undertale is laughable.

see Eceleb worship lmao

What are pixel art techniques and how do I learn them?

Read Pixel Logic

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>Prager U

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cope. there is absolutely zero necessity to learn art or pay for high quality art assets to make a fun and successful game. im sorry you're a starving furry pornography artist who needs to whore himself out to indie devs but we don't need you and your work is completely and utterly worthless.

>devs shouldn't make good games
This is literally the exact type of zoomer behavior OP called out

>having good art = good game
wrong. feel free to screech about 'oomers or trannies or whatever rather than actually refute that point

Every part of a game is important, a game with good graphics is objectively better than the same exact game with worse graphics.

>Every part of a game is important
nope. gameplay is all that matters. everything else is purely optional.

Thanks.

Don't bother user, artcucks aren't gamers and never will be.

But gameplay is and always will be the most important part of them all.

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>Left
Soulless
>Right
Soul

Nope, all of it matters, being a compartmentalizationist is for dumb pseuds

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>gameplay is all that matters.
Is there a more reddit opinion than this one?

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Graphics don't actually matter either way.

It's shit if the game is shit. Which every game he's had a hand in is regardless of muh gwaphix.

>Posting your shitty take like it matters
The only thing that matters is my fat cock up your mom's pussy. Everything else, doesn't matter.

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Graphics do matter, even a shit game with good graphics has something to offer over a shit game with shit graphics.

Dumb pseud zoomer lol

ah, the twitter authority has spoken. i kneel.

To say gameplay isn't what matters, implies the ™ art on a basketball makes the game more fun. It doesn't.

I like 2D more than 3D, but my opinion has nothing to do with it. 2D is better than 3D because we are demonstrably incapable of making good physics for 3D games. Which is the gameplay.

>gameplay is all that matters
Why are you defending VNdertale then lmaooo

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>didn't even look at the image
lmao dumb pseud confirmed, it's too easy

Worse is an opinion so you literally can't even say that.

What something looks like has no bearing on gameplay and therefore changes nothing about how good a game is.

I hate 3D but it doesn't stop Pokémon HG/SS, Bravely Default, or BotW from being a good game.

>having good art = good game

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Nope.

This lol. Undertale is basically just "babby's first game project" that only got a foothold because the guy who cobbled it together had connections with and sold out to furry fetish freaks.

>Left
Reasonably sane people but cringe nonetheless
>Right
Needle Cookies.

of course i didn't. it's twittershit.

Art is the most important thing to getting sales. Even if the gameplay is shit, people won't find that out until after they buy it. But they won't buy a game that looks mediocre in the first place. So many indie devs make games with the same generic shitty art styles.

AAA budget globohomo pixel artstyle
vs
SOUL

>even better graphics
You're a fucking idiot.

lmao you are embarrassing

Basketball on a scenic field is objectively more enjoyable than that same round of basketball in a shitty damp warehouse, a board game with nice art is objectively more enjoyable than that same game with cheap knockoff art, a card game with nice looking cards is more enjoyable etc

>Worse is an opinion so you literally can't even say that.
Nope there are pretty objective measures as to what looks good and what doesn't, you're free to find the objectively worse looking thing as better, that's subjective, but that doesn't mean the objectively better looking thing isn't objectively better looking because of it. If this is the hill you want to die on we can just skip to the end of the skeptic argument and say we can never know anything.

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>"the example I posted doesn't count because one guy is also better than another guy"
>"graphics ARE the most important aspect of a game and if you buy a game that looks worse than another game, you ARE contributing to the downfall of society"
sure thing bud

>outright state everything this dude has had a hand in is trash
>defending
Are you retarded? We're talking about graphics, not the specific games.

Which is also why I went to but decided against pointing out that I actively wish him ill for having a hand in helping ruin Pokémon - it had nothing to do with the conversation at hand.