Dude what if we made half the playable cast be inconsequential to the story

>Dude what if we made half the playable cast be inconsequential to the story
>Dude what if we made a cast that barely says anything and almost never interacts with each other
>Dude what if we made multiple cutscenes where the main character has no idea what's going on and just stands in the background while people who matter speak
>Dude what if we made a villain who has zero emotional connection to the heroes and doesn't even meet them until the last ten minutes
>Dude what if Star Wars
>Dude what if we gave the narrator a comical Apu accent
>Dude what if we made a political plot and then ruined it by turning it into standard ancient god shenanigans
>Dude what if we made a plot where the heroes have almost no impact on what happens until 95% of the way through the story and spend their time traipsing through non-descript caves and ruins
>Dude what if I'm Captain Basch
>Dude what if we made the sheathing/unsheathing animation stop you before and after every battle
>Dude what if we took everything 100% seriously and had zero levity
>Dude what if we wrote all of the dialogue to sound like a Renaissance Fair
>Dude what if we made the best weapon only obtainable by not opening a series of unmarked chests
>Dude what if we had no overworld and all travel was handled by a menu or floating teleport crystals
>Dude what if we made a battle system where you set everything up in advance so that you don't actually play the game
>Dude what if we made summons useless except for opening doors
>Dude what if instead of fun side quests we had only fetch/kill quests like in some generic MMO
>Dude what if instead of having fun side games like the motorcycle chase and Triple Triad we had nothing
>Dude what if we had really shitty music

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I'M CAPTAIN BASCH

Wait, you've made this thread before. At least several times. Why?

all that, and it's STILL the best mainline FF since 6

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6 is bad.

The fact Vaan only tagged along because Balthier promised him a ride in his airship is what makes him one of the best FF protags. FF12 is the second best FF btw.

Ffxii is trash

What is the objectively best version of this game?

FF12s Hunts are better than any other FF minigame, except maybe FF9s Hot & Cold. It's basically an entire Monster Hunter game

>Dude what if we made the best mainline FF

Zodiac Age

Switch version imo. It looks amazing on the Switchs screen

Zodiac Age with Struggle for Freedom mod.

this

The fuck is that

Zodiac Age. Do not pick up those shitty mods until you've finished the game first.

>XII has a political story rather than a character driven story
>I don't remember shit about the game besides the desert city where you start and the hi-tech city where you end and a coastal town which is really pretty and has some pots on the beach that cucks you out of the zodiac spear if you open them

>Dude what if we made the best Final Fantasy and one of the only good games in the entire fucking franchise, which is overrated garbage shit?
damn what a daring proposition by the creators really rocking the boat

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I still don't get how you can make a jrpg that's not a dungeon crawler with such bland characters and zero party dynamic.

It's impressively shit.

>Dude what if we had really shitty music
filtered

The lack of uematsu is noticeable

Why is she so perfect?

exactly, FFXII doesn't sound the same as every other FF game and is only better for it

Truly based. Based 12 connoisseur.

Sounds like a great mod. I've completed 12 three times, but its systems have some serious problems. Alternatively, the job system from V/BD would solve stuff.

A mod

>re-releases IX

>12 has no Uematsu
>is great
>13 has no Uematsu
>has some of the best music in the series and a top 3? 2? 1? battle theme

I didn't read your whole post but you're right, I couldn't bother to finish the game, it was shit. Which is sad because I love Ivalice, FFT and also bunnies, but Square really dropped the ball on this one. A JRPG needs to have interesting characters, interesting story, and a good system, and this game has none of that.

FF12 was the last game I ever looked forward to. I was so hyped, waited for years and years to finally play the next epic installation of my favorite video game franchise. And this is the piece of trash they shat out. Thank you Square enix, for destroying my soul

Based as fuck. xii makes Mystic Quest look like a masterpiece in comparison. Can't even name 1 memorable moment from that shit pile of a game

lmao you're a tasteless final fantasy fanboy faggot who got filtered hard when they gave you something objectively better than all the garbage you jizzed over in the past

>Dude what if we had really shitty music
Bro the bossfight theme with the drumline that sounds like muskets going off is one of the hypest pieces of music in the enter Final Fantasy franchise and if you disagree you're so full of shit that if we could somehow empty it from your body we could fertilize an entire farm.

Argue against OPs points then. It's a piece of trash game with very few redeeming qualities. Maybe zodiac edition was slightly better but I only played the original

>make a game set in Ivalice
>instead of all the interesting beast races, make your entire party all humans and a human with bunny ears
Of all the things I dislike about FFXII, I dislike this the most. Such an absolute waste of the setting.

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Battle themes
5>7 boss theme>7>4>9>3>the rest

This game is full of missed opportunities.

>OPs points
I see no points there, just sentences. I can write those too:

>Dude, what if we fucked OP's mom one at a time just to shake things up?

Nobody will argue against OP's points because the first three are already baiting and the rest are his (dumb) opinions.

dont care

want fuck brown rabbit girl

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Whoa...

>look at me, I’m jerking off FF7 on the internet, someone give me attention!!!!!
You, and Final Fantasy VII, aren’t interesting.

I hope FF16 has the same sense of adventure as FF12

Have they updated the PS4 and PC versions to include job switching yet or is it still only on the Switch?

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Pretty sure PC got the patch ages ago. I picked the wrong quickening slot on Basch and it let me wipe his board to correct the mistake.

added back in 2020, this same patch removed DENUVO

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>not a single person itt is capable of defending the game

Really says all you need to know

Its fun it just loses steam past the mid-point because by then you've exhausted 90% of the character interactions via zone-intro cutscenes. I don't know anyone who actually just blitzed the main story while ignoring hunts but I imagine those people felt the game was beyond redemption

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I like it

there

Regular battle themes
X > V > VII > VI > III > VIII > IV > IX > II > XIII > I > XI > XV > XIV

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>dude what if we had really shitty music
stopped reading there, it's not uematsu but it's still good

Not an argument

>12 has no Uematsu
youtube.com/watch?v=FbPuqJcbBIs
>Kiss Me Good-Bye (From "Final Fantasy XII") · Nobuo Uematsu

this isn't a debate, it's 4channel

Garbage.

Yeah i prefer Sakimoto

V > VII > IV > III > VI >IX > XV > II > I > X > VIII > XIII > Those mmos generally have some shitty battle music

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Yep, and it's still a great soundtrack

Final Fantasy VII is definitively and unequivocally, the best one. My favorite is 12, V has the best system, and IX is the prettiest from a aesthetic perspective, and I got a lot of love for the broken mess that is XV, but VII is the best. It's got the best story, the best characters, materia is elegant, it's stuffed woth generous content and the battles are always delightful.

>Dude what if we made half the playable cast be inconsequential to the story
That's almost Final Fantasy game.

You're too optimistic.