He's right you know

artstyle and graphics go hand in hand. you can have a brilliant artstyle but if you can't pull it off technically, the game will look like dogshit and the artstyle no longer counts for anything

the first thing I do when I start playing a new game is set the music volume to 0
I consider doing a music on playthrough IF I replay the game

You being a faggot with shit taste isn't relevant to the discussion.

Tomb Raider 2013

Yes but graphics highly important for advertising. AAA game companies need to convince a board of old fart executives that have never played a video game in their life that the product they’re making will sell, how can they convince them by talking about controls and the gameplay loop? Fancy graphics is the only selling point they could understand and so it sticks around.

Graphics and artsyle are the same thing. Graphics doesn't mean "it looks more realistic".

put graphics in 1st -50th place and all those other shitters below it and you have pic thats not completely retarded

Incorrect. You being a faggot with shit taste is extremely relevant to the discussion because music literally adds nothing to the game. Period.

This image was made by a pleb so it would probably be better distinguished by saying graphics are graphical fidelity, and art style is aesthetics. You can count the polygons on something and still have nice aesthetic flair, since that's more about color use, stylistic choices, and set pieces.

It's called SOVL not soul

soul = soulless
SOVL=SOVL

>implying tomb raider 2013 had a good artstyle
>implying TR2013 was good in general

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Cope.

I think people who say graphic don't matter are more vocally annoying than people who care about graphics.

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Even really stupid creatures can appreciate music, how are you less than bovine? That's so embarrassing, why would you admit to that?

hahahahahahahahahaha

>videogame """"""music"""""""
>music
lmao

I accept your concession.

Eternal Ring
Street Fighter IV
Soulsborne as a genre, don't fucking @ me about Plin Plin Plon
there's lots. it's not that great music is an inherent part of a great game, it's that most games become great through talent and effort, which normally extends to the music.

same, the """music""" in most games is utter dogshit

>here is why you need to tolerate low production values despite budgets and prices going up
No, go and work on those assets until they look nice.

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>music literally adds nothing to the game.
>what is jet set radio
>what is THPS
>what is every guilty gear game
>what is ace combat
>what is every platinum game
>what is every DMC
>what is SMT
>what is persona
>what is sonic CD
>what is the original 4 Tomb Raider games
>what is every rhythm game ever
>what is daytona USA
>what is Outrun
>what is Crazy Taxi
>what is touhou
>what is Mother as a series
>what is literally every game treasure ever made
>what is Contact
>what is MOON
>what is Chibi-Robo
>what is Pikmin
>what is cave story
>what is Left 4 Dead/L4D2

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Guilty gear is an album release that comes with a game. Haha what a crazy thing.

>>what is persona
True. Games would be dogshit without their music.

>missing aesthetics

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>characters and story below music

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most of the games you listed are shit music or not

AHHHHHHHHHHHH SEX WITH DONUTS

>Street Fighter IV
>implying
SFIV's music wasn't shit. It wasn't S-tier or anything, but it certainly wasn't shit. Same goes for Soulsborne games.

Possibly the worst take I have ever seen on this site.

There's some redundancy going on there.

>Asks for example
>Give out an example
>"i-it doesn't count"
Many such cases.

>Left 4 Dead/L4D2
L4D2 is a great example because it's fucking obnoxious to play with retards who blast their own music because the game is balanced around you being able to hear the musical stingers that signal enemy spawns.

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Tomb Raider 2013 sucks fat horse cock, user, and its artstyle isn't even as interesting as the originals. It goes from being cool female indiana jones vibes to Uncharted but edgier. Shit sucks ass.

They'll just say those are bad games or bad music, and then be too chickenshit to offer ther idea of good music because Yea Forums is full of contrarian cockroaches.

Most of these are redundant.

Factorio. The art style is gorgeous, the music is mid at best.

Anyone else like lofi remixes of vidya music? Pretty comfy after you've heard the originals countless times.

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It's just part of marketing which sadly is very important.

Mid ≠ Shit
A game can get by with having decent/okay music if it's made up for in other ways. Games can't recover from having shit music.

If the music is so mid tier, then why can I play it in my head perfectly?
Me:1
You:0

it wasn't annoying or anything but since I wasn't compelled to pay attention to or remember it I'd say that's hardly a success. I'm sure some people like it, though, unlike some other games.

OP posted his own faggot opinion
This is the real version of the pic

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>Street Fighter IV
I was gonna call you out on this, but every great theme I looked up (Juri, Abel, Claw) was SUPER SFIV, so you're technically right.
>Soulsborne
Filtered.
youtube.com/watch?v=qA-bGE6ZFAk
youtube.com/watch?v=enkEiD8PC5o
youtube.com/watch?v=p9hoAyx3-0I
youtube.com/watch?v=rmpqBuwdiXc

That said, I agree with your overall point.

Bad or mid controls sounds like a bad time, but this is definitely more sensible.

Why are you music fags so fucking autistic? I have only given a shit about music in a game when it was distractingly bad and barely ever remember a single song from any game i’ve played. Do you sperges actually listen to video game soundtracks one your phone or something?

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>MUH STORY
>MUH CHARACTERS
>that high up
>before SOUL - arguably one of the most important things a game needs to have and even Tetris having one.
DCK2 (has a soul) is a million times better game subjectively and objectively than The Last Jews Of Us (has no soul as all jews go straight to hell) with its >story and >characters
read a book, you imbecile couch farting lazy assborn Netflix binging Redditera bumshitter.
"story in video games is like story in porn" - some rocket scientist. it should only exist for the premise as background noise to set up the tone and pace of a game.

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Art style is graphics

Kill yourself storynigger

okay, redditor.

S-shut up tranny

>gameplay
>controls
>replay value
>gameplay loop
>soul
>all these redundant terms to shit on visuals which are no less relevant than sound and gameplay

>can give any example you want
>choose AAA "game" made after 2006
>a 3rd person cover shooter reboot no less
Where do you think you are?

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>censored heterosexual public display of affection
kinda pozzed desu

also why is soul so low? is it because NPC's don't know what it is?

Why are anti-ost fags so aggressively miserable?
Don't get me wrong, anybody who listens to vg osts exclusively is probably a massive, uncultured sperg, but good music is good music. It being made for a video game doesn't automatically negate how pleasing it is to hear or how clever its compositional elements are.

I don't listen to vidya osts on their own all that much, but I'll be damned if that'll make me dismiss stellar works such as Katamari Damacy's or SOTN's soundtracks.

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YIIK.