>muh loot system is bad! You can filter equipment you don't want and it takes 3 seconds to trash the loot in your inventory, complaining about Nioh 2's loot is like playing Path of Exile without a loot filter and picking up every single white item on the ground: only retards do it. >muh level design is bad! You're conflating your personal dislike of the game's aesthetic with level design, there is nothing wrong with the level design in Nioh 2 and in fact it is far better than the level design in both Dark Souls III and Elden Ring.
The souls games are easy as shit compared to this game. I went into the first one expecting the norms of these games and it's hard as shit.
Brayden Fisher
Story is crap, enemies reused far too often, horribly unbalanced, starts off stupidly difficult and doesn't get hard again until you beat the game four times.
Thomas Collins
Yeah I legitimately don't understand the whining it.
>sort by level >equip thing at the top >scrap everything else at smith
Takes like 10 seconds. You could quite literally train a chimp to do it. You don't have to give a shit about min-max and proper set builds and effects until the ng+ anyway, knowing the mechanics is so much more important.
Jaxon White
>Find. A. Single. Flaw. Boss skill farm Human boss burst counter vs Yokai boss burst counter balance
Jack Harris
Claiming that Diablo loot is fine because you have ways to deal with it is like claiming that getting infected with HIV is fine because taking your retroviral pills takes no more than a couple minutes every day.
Cooper Barnes
Am I the only one that thinks Nioh would be a way better franchise if they removed all the RPG and grind autism and just made Samurai Ninja Gaiden Souls. >Weapon drops would feel more unique >you could no longer trivialize the game with retarded builds >difficulty progression would be tied to the actually good combat rather than the dogshit RPG mechanics. Just sounds straight up better
Cameron Kelly
>Find. A. Single. Flaw. Criminal underuse of the pretty female characters.
The diablo loot is fine when you understand that you can just focus on the fixed stats and temper the rest, ontop of understanding that you can keep your gear viable for way longer than most people think (purple gear can last like 1/4 of the base game before needing soul match or replacement). The real cock is how expensive soul matching is in the game. There are online missions that give more gold than usual and are short like Gamo Ujisato, but still.
Noah Davis
Yes. The only reason Nioh can make itself distinct from other franchises is because you can combine autism combat with autism build making to make endless experiments. With only one or the other, nobody would care.
Aaron Bailey
>Now I ask you: Find. A. Single. Flaw. Loot autism, menu simulation = cancer, fuck off. Nioh 2 is not flawless. It also features excessive particle effects out of the ass, thank God I can mod it out on PC. Go play Ninja Gaiden II and see what good presentation actually is, fucking clean combat, minimal particle effects, by far the best blood, dismemberment and gore system in all gaming.
Yes. You literally want a generic, soulless Souls clone, the very thing you accuse Nioh of.
Adrian Cox
You just listed two flaws though.
Dylan Perry
Nobody remembers NG, the Nioh series outsold all your games in less time.
Nathan Wright
>with only one or the other, nobody would care. objectively wrong. How the fuck did you figure that I want a Souls clone if I want them to completely remove RPG elements
Here >muh unique weapon drops So you can wank about how this weapon was used by Zanzibart the myrmidon of loss to scratch the god of farts' asshole.
John Ward
Can niohfags ever talk about their game without mentioning souls in the same breath?
Carson Jackson
Retard, Sekiro sold because of the Miyazaki namebrand, Activision marketing, and the focus on atmosphere and world, it was basically meant to be Bloodborne 2 no matter what. The combat is dogshit Simon Says that only midwits think is peak.
Benjamin Hill
I like the game a lot but the loot system is still shit
Nolan Adams
When you stop talking about Nioh's points as "it's bad because it's not Souls", maybe Niohfags will stop mentioning Souls as rebutal.
Yes. Keep the skill progression but get rid of all RPG loot. Heck, you can even have boss weapons that are sidegrades that offer different elements or some of the unique ethereal/divine perks I don't want to play Path of Exile, loot filter or otherwise.
Joseph Ward
I just like Nioh because it has the best waifus
Matthew Jenkins
>So you can wank about how this weapon was used by Zanzibart the myrmidon of loss to scratch the god of farts' asshole. Yep, that would be a linear upgrade to Nioh's current loot system. >Sekiro sold It didn't just sell retard, it received universal acclaim. Won GOTY, gets shilled by new fans, AND on here regularly.
Nicholas King
>Nobody remembers NG All true gamers are still playing Ninja Gaiden II @ 4K 60FPS via Xbox backwards compatibility, it is one of the best games ever made.
Nioh and Nioh 2 are nowhere near it, they are good games.
Sales are meaningless. Elden Shit Ring outsold the entire Nioh franchise 150 times, in 1 months, yet Elden Shit Ring is an absolute boring garbage game.
I'm currently playing through the first one and it's raping my ass compared to any of the souls games, big agree
Elijah Stewart
>"it's bad because it's not Souls" And which voice in your head is saying this, because it was certainly not in that post
Noah Foster
It does get bad as you get further. The +120 grind is very tedious and requires a lot it menuing. Probably my only major complaint with the game as someone who adores the loot system.
Oliver Rivera
>Sekiro sold because of the Miyazaki namebrand, Activision marketing, and the focus on atmosphere and world, it was basically meant to be Bloodborne 2 no matter what. The combat is dogshit Simon Says that only midwits think is peak.
Can't wait till you guys figure out how balanced Living Weapon is and proceed to never have trouble with anything in the game ever again.
Adam Jackson
>Yep, that would be a linear upgrade to Nioh's current loot system. You already get lore description from the gear in Nioh, sometimes associated with historical characters. You don't even play the game you criticize. >It didn't just sell retard, it received universal acclaim. And you think it received critical acclaim because of the "deep, deep combat", or because of what I mentioned? A lot of gamers are just Yea Forums-tard who let presentation trump everything, and that was always a strong point of Fromsoft games. Like I said, nobody would care if Sekiro didn't have those, just like how nobody cares about Sifu.
Andrew Foster
You don't have the right to talk about a trend without noticing the other trend that it's attached to.
Jaxson Jenkins
You are retarded. Sekiro is the only good game FromSoftware has made in recent memory. Nioh and Nioh 2 are held back by diablo loot system, you can't damage control that.
Mason Nelson
i've already realized that but the same could be said for things in souls games, obviously the game isn't gonna be hard when you're not on your first blind playthrough
Matthew Hill
So if I'm getting this right, soulsfags buckbroke you so hard they're all you can think about when mentioning nioh
Juan Wilson
That said, I regularly come back to Nioh for a NG run since that's when the game is at its most skillful point and before the loot autism fully kicks in. The core combat is just too fun.
Elijah Ramirez
The RPG mechanics could work if they were properly fleshed out. The problem is TN leans too hard on the autistic loot treadmill bullshit.
Luke Flores
This. The skills in Nioh 2 are so fucking boring. Wow I can get a 1% increase to my my attack damage! Shit plays like a shitty Korean MMO and the game suffers for that. You can see it on the map design where everything is made to be run through multiple times like a MMO dungeon.
Nolan Perry
Most other weapons aren't as satisfying as Fists. Using a full Hayabusa set should turn your move set into his. Sohayamaru isn't an equippable weapon Dual Sohayamaru isn't an equippable weapon.
Samuel Davis
The only interesting skills are hidden behind Ethereal and Divine items. But it's a honeypot since by the time you get to that stage, you're past the point of no return with loot autism.
Lucas Richardson
Really enjoying Nioh 2 so far, but gotta say I liked the bosses in Nioh 1 more.
Henry Morgan
you have to admit that for the first 70% of the game, the diablo loot system is pretty pointless when the only time you're ever going to give a shit about dropped gear outside of dissassembly fodder is when ethereals with star rolls start dropping.
Luke Price
Shit game
Daniel Hernandez
>Dual Sohayamaru When did this happen? I can't remember.
Jason Rogers
Hello I am the nioh 2 avatrfag, that's what I'm known as now Anyway I think nioh 2 is objectively a bad ARPG, that borrows mechanics and the worst parts of soulsshit games while its fanbase pretends to detach themselves from it even though nioh 2 borrows heavily. Also I will stream the game to prove I'm good in this thread.
If you used living weapon you didn't beat the game
Noah Collins
I hate its mission map more. How the fuck was I suppose to know I had to remove the talisman from the nurikabe?
Daniel Price
My order of Nioh 2 came in the mail today. :)
Jace Perry
Yeah that would be pretty cash.
Ian Lewis
I'm mad that there's a whole part of the map I didn't see and Kodama that I missed because I thought that the door would simply be a midboss and afterwards I'd get to explore the rest of the level. There was a prayer shrine across the water that they tease you with but you dont get to use it if you go for the boss.
>How the fuck was I suppose to know I had to remove the talisman from the nurikabe You can also use gestures to get by the nurikabe.
William Myers
No need to give excuses to the imbeciles and nitpicky losers who make up excuses to drop the game because they get bodied by trivial shit.
Lincoln Anderson
The post they ignored because it was too true
Ian Ross
>You can filter equipment you don't want and it takes 3 seconds to trash the loot in your inventory
nice, i can also filter you and consign your shit game to the trash .Play a souls game and have sex kid,
Levi Murphy
It was ignored because making an analogy to a real world disease is retarded.
Jackson James
You have unmanaged HIV. The loot would be better served with 5% as many drops but they are actually decent instead of hundred of items you have to spend the time breaking down anyway
Tyler Russell
Do you really just soul match over an over until you get +120? Just got to DotN, no idea where to go with the loot
Yeah, the underworld has perks that lets you get higher loot drops so focus on doing that. The tedium comes from upgrading a bunch of 112s into 118s and shit.
Jonathan Thomas
user, in case you're not adding on the shitposting intentionally and are just actually retarded, OP isn't a Niohfag. And for that matter, probably isn't a Soulsfag either. These stupid threads have came up since 2 released on PC, and is probably the same 1 or 2 anons making it
