Face it

>it must be clearly left in the past.

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yeah but that doesn't count beca-
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>Retro does not refer to an era
I know, but every time I hear retro, I can't help but envision Afros and Atari.
Going to be weird considering shit like the 360 retro when advancements are no longer leaps and bounds like they used to be.

Reminder that we are almost as far away from the ps3 as the ps2 was to the NES.

>but every time I hear retro, I can't help but envision Afros and Atari.
Because that was what was considered retro when you were growing up. Culture shifts, the generational gap is all too real.

As a 21 year old zoomer who actually had a PS3 as my first console, I really don't find it all that retro.

my sisters black one night stand stole my ps3 when I was younger

It's not retro because it breaks much easier than anything older than it.

you're confusing retro with vintage

Fuck, it's been a little over a decade and I already hate everything that's changed. Like the golden rule of not putting yourself on the internet being completely shattered, and the aggressive monetization of video games.

if you're a zoomer saying the ps3 was your first console then it absolutely has become retro

Xbox yes since they got wired pads haven't seen those on a ps3

For me the cutoff is 100% between the division of SD and HD systems.

The Xbox can do 720p but only certain games can so it qualifies as retro. Everything beyond had an expectation of working at 720p and above without question.

Yeah same

>For me the cutoff is 100% between the division of SD and HD systems.
when 100 years passes and it's 2122, is the definition of a retro console still whether or not it's HD?

I think the term should be locked to a certain time period rather than be an age.

>Dead Rising gets released
>All those complaints about the text being unreadable because of SD CTRs

I don't agree with your definition but I do agree with the timing. The PS3 and 360 clearly belong to a different era of gaming than the PS2 and GCN or anything prior.

There won't be a humanity 100 years in the future, let alone video games.

7th gen will never be retro, all the dogshit modern gaming trends started there

The 7th gen came out in the pre-iPhone/recession/social media world, so it belongs to another era.

Retro is a shit term in general. Hippies are usually considered retro, and look at all the dogshit trends they brought.
So it seems suitable.

*Wired controllers and memory cards

In that case the 7th gen came out post 9/11 so it can't join the pre-9/11 era.

I think a console should be considered retro if it's been out of production for at least 2 generations.

I consider 2001-2007 to still be part of the Long 20th Century in terms of politics and culture because it was the last period where America was the center of the world stage instead of China, and also was the last period before you started seeing iPhones everywhere.

the PS4(aswell as the xbox one) still feels fucking new to me despite the thing being on its way out already. it still feels like the NEW console.

that describes the first xbox, only gen 5 and backwards are retro

I agree. Two gens back is retro. So early PS3 is retro, but late PS3 isn't because we're still in early PS5.

I remember already hating how things were in 2012, its fucking astounding how much worse they've become since then.

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They didn't get worse, it's just a different flavor of awful. As far as I'm concerned, Justin Bieber is just as bad as Billie Eilish.

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>N-no, I-
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>MTX
only recently
>DLC
fair point
>paid MP
PSN was free
>digital
didn't start becoming a thing until the tail-end of the console's life-cycle: the PSP Go was born and died while the PS3 was still active
>DRM
barely, damn thing was fully region free and the most you needed was just have an account with the thing you actually bought, the actual physical license file was a part of your filesystem, and this was exploited in homebrew
>focus on FPS and casual sports
sports games will be everywhere and countrymen will always play them
FPS games were a new thing since graphics were being pushed and it was generally nicer to play and actually immerse yourself

It is. Anything that isn’t curent gen is retro by definition

I consider anything before 2008 to be retro. 2008 is when reality collapsed and we entered this hell we're in right now.

Fuck, was going to tell you you're wrong, but the more I think about it, you're kind of right in some sense. I mean, we always had shitty popular singers like Justin Timberlake, Back Street Boys, etc. and the advent of Facebook, but Myspace was just a different, more creative form of that... then Youtube and Tiktok and Twitter... I mean there were always different forum hosts and templates back then, and all those different chat rooms and shit like Yahoo and MSN with it's chats/groups.
I'm starting to think accessibility was a mistake, along with smart phones. All that shit that was easier to use, to access and gave access to the internet all over the globe easily. Making things easier so there was no restriction or difficulty in doing things, and thus creating hesitation and keep some people from doing stupid shit. I mean people will always do stupid shit, but now it's in greater numbers.
Still, as far as video game monetization goes... I still think it's worse. Shovelware can be avoided or even enjoyed in some ways, arcades will always have their interesting atmosphere and gimmick games... but nothing good is coming from nickle and diming game content and fucking with game content in various ways.

PS2 is now retro, PS3 is old.

>because nothing in the industry changed since PS3
Well, besides SIE changing its HQ to California and now everything being dictated by them. Not saying that's a reason for the PS3 to be considered retro though.

Was. Not anymore.

Woke agenda singlehandedly makes our times objectively worse than circa 2012. Hell, just taking a look at the difference between the original TLoU and the sequel is enough to make a whole sociological study.

>has controllers
>platformers
>shoot em ups
>looks like indie dev games
>physical media
>3d games
>cartridges like the Switch
feels modern if you ask me

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This. None of the PS3's features are really outdated.

And curiously enough, lead writer between TLoU 1 and 2 was changed to a member of a certain particular group.

Crazy how this keeps happening.

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Still is! The PS3 servers still work for free. You only have to pay for it on the 4 onwards. Which is still shit, of course.
Source: I don't pay for online and I still see soapstone messages and bloodstains in Dark Souls 2 on PS3 literally yesterday

>subjecting yourself to 720p 25fps
what shithole do you live in

No, but it will be in four years.
6th gen is undeniably retro at this point, though, despite what the "ReTrO iS a StYLe" schizo says.

I wanted to play the version I already had. And I wanted to experience the original before playing Scholar at some point.

I feel like all that shit wouldn't be so bad if we didn't have smart phones and all the various social platforms cramming that shit down our throats. Where we could still live in our own little isolated bubbles and communities without being constantly interconnected and influenced by other shit in other isolated communities all the way across the nation/globe and potentially have it spread.
I mean, there have always been right movements for women, minorities, and the gays... with trans being the newer and strangest of the bunch to put it lightly. But now we're able to see it easily across the globe, with every dumb fuck able to give their own opinion and group together to fuck with other peoples lives anywhere in the world.

No - the ps360 the changing of the guard and is the foundations of the modern era. While the hardware was crazy in its own right what developers were trying to do (and some did) is much more in common with current trends than those of the previous generation of hardware. This is especially true when one looks at PC hardware - the release of programmable shaders changed everything.

Pic captured on a real PS3.

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How the FUCK do they keep getting away with it? How is it even possible?

If being here has taught you anything, it should have taught you how powerful mass media is.

>Where we could still live in our own little isolated bubbles and communities without being constantly interconnected and influenced by other shit in other isolated communities all the way across the nation/globe and potentially have it spread.
Come to think of it, you’re right. Before smartphones the only places that had this kind of cultural environment were college campuses.

Current gen console can't be retro.
PS4 and PS5 are just mid-gen upgrades.
No technical advancements.
No games.
PS3 gen has barely started.

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I've come to the realization that "retro" is no strictly about the time passed, but the level and difference in technology. So the PS3 is NOT retro because it's technologically very close to current consoles, but the PSP for example is retro.

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PS3 games sure don't 'feel' retro though. Almost every game could be mistaken for a new release if it got higher res textures. There is a distinct style to the era though so maybe that's good enough.