Saves the franchise from death with killer sales

>Saves the franchise from death with killer sales
>Kills the franchise's soul with waifushit, anime aesthetics, and watered down gameplay

Any other examples of this?

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Souls series

Elden ring

Final fantasy 7 killing sprite based RPG's

My biggest issue with Awakening is that, more than any of the previous games, it felt like every single character had a "gimmick" that they CONSTANTLY had to remind you of. Not only does every support conversation center around their gimmick (and it sometimes gets addressed before going back to normal in the A support), but it also appears when you level up, when you visit the base, etc.

The gameplay is better than the likes of SS though.

What's with the argument that Awakening was the start of the anime aesthetics? Is this just something some rando fuck pulled out of his ass, and everyone else just jumped on, because people just didn't play anything before it?
I'll give you your other arguments, though.

Xenoblade 2

Limbus company

Modern FE cannot into good writing. All the characters seem like they’re just 2 bullet points.

That's more as a result of having way more options for pairing up units and more support conversations because of them. In previous games units would have like up to 4 characters to have support with, meanwhile the character with the least amount of conversation outside of robinsexuals is Sumia who has 7. When each character can have like 16 support conversations time 3 for C,B,A ranks, they get rushed.

I would agree if post FFVII PS1 low poly Square and other RPGs weren't still of of the most kino aesthetics ever
I've still never finished it because I'm a brainlet but you can't tell me Vagrant Story doesn't look better than most games today

This. It used to be 90s anime aesthetics, then 2000s anime aesthetics and then 2010s anime aesthetic.

Xenoblade 2. I wouldnt say it killed the franchise (X2 and especially the DLC are still great games), but it absolutely ruined the fanbase by flooding it with coomers and weebs and Pyra will stay the face of the Xenoblade franchise for quite a while.

>anime aesthetics
Fire Emblem literally has an OVA from 1996

An example I can think of is Oscar in FE9.
He's a good cook as shown in a few of his supports, but it's not really a main part of his character and his life doesn't revolve around cooking.
If he was in Awakening all of his supports would involve him cooking something for the other person, his level up messages would be shit like "This dish came out excellent!", "I burned this one..." and his entire life would be based on cooking.

We'll never get another Xenoblade X.....

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Didn't X have waifus and bikini stuff?

I know there were minor quotes and reports but does anyone actually think they won't port it ever?
>b...but the menus
Other Switch games with weirder set ups have gotten ports

So did 1 but you're not supposed to point that out.

Yes.

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this
ranni is the most cancerous cringe thing in that game

Then why would you list xc2 in here?

Only modern FE? I thought this series always had shit writing.

Luci's voice warms my heart when nothing else will.

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Yeah, but there wasn’t really any modern anime cringe like 2.

Fallout 3 and each subsequent Bethesda Fallout game.

Not only that but I also don't think xenoblade was at its death's door to be "saved from death" by XC2 sales.

Did X really sell that bad?

But the best sprite based RPG came out 5 years after FF7

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There is nothing wrong with the plot for FE8,9, 5, or 4 Gen 1. FE6, FE1, are inoffensive
FE4 Gen 2 has a bit of I love being evil, but otherwise fine.
FE7 holds up on the first PT, but somebody made a post complaining that the antagonist leaves without killing you, and bandit filler chapters so it gets slated, and not even for the parts of the story that deserve it.
FE10 I think gets overhated, but I can see why people would dislike it
Awakening and Gaiden (Echoes is Gaiden but worse) aren't great but have some nice moments in it.
Fates is mostly a dumpster fire, didn't bother with TH

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>Wii U
>botched english port in the height of NoA Treehouse fuckery
I could see it.

Done by 8-4, not Treehouse. vgchartz has it down as .84 million but >Vg chartz

I think 1 Wii sold .9 Million, so it’s not too bad.

Like 500k I think. Not great but I assume Nintendo had lowered expectations for it due to being on the Wii U.

Okay so in more ways than one "xc2" is a shitty answer to OP's question then.

Fuck off neckbeard. Go play your ancient gay NES FE games then.

>handheld exclusive

>I thought this series always had shit writing.
B-but 3h has good writing, look at all those daddy issues

The entire characters of the nopon and Lin? were anime trope crap

People love hating XBC2 when the series has plenty of weeb and anime shit in every entry.

Three houses has some really good worldbuilding and the "daddy issues" make sense given that a lot of the character's conflicts revolve around aristocracy but the actual plot in most routes is where the writing starts to fall apart.

>JRPGs
Not that I mind some shiny braindead gameplay after work desu

>desu
The fuck? I must be new here...

I think 3H handles characters much better than Awakening (and definitely miles better than Fates), it's the main story that has the most issues due to all the paths and shit like Edelgard's story telling you the final few battles through the credits.

FE was always waifushit, always anime, and the gameplay barely evolved from the NES days so there wasn't much to "water down".

Same for Xenoblade and Souls

>FE was always waifushit

You're fucking retarded.

Always been an anime series

Reminder.

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Treehouse removed the breast slider

Imho like all fe games but the spinoff ones reek of soul. Im not gonna talk about the older games, but
>Awakening
Saved the franchise, had EXTREMLY soulfull music and robin and chrom are fucking cute
>Fates
So bad its good, plus it was peak coomershit
>Echoes
The most soulful remake ever. Has even more soul then the original
>Three Houses
Treehouse mainly fucked it up with their tranny bs by trying to make le hecking wholesome atheist communist lesbian the good guy in her route, while she was way better in the japanese version. AM was by far the best route due to Dimitri, while SS was unfortunatly boring due to tons of missed opportunities
Fuck VW though, literal Globohomo propaganda

Good to see you Lucifren

Well thank you.

guilty gear strive
>inb4 gg was always anime shit
baiken was better without the eyepatch shut your fuck

>Kills the franchise's soul with anime aesthetics

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>soul
>soulfull
>soulful
>soul

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FE always had anime looks and waifu stuff. At least since FE4, haven't played earlier ones. Awakening has other issues, not that.

am europoor

NES FE is shit. Playstation Kaga rip-offs are where it's at

fatesfag cope "crab-in-the-bucket" mentality
>THE STORIES WERE ALWAYS BAD XD

Vagrant Story is the hardest game I've ever played.

It's OK to like Fire Emblem Awakening.

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