Did the patch make it one of the worst weapons in the game or is it balanced/worth using?

Did the patch make it one of the worst weapons in the game or is it balanced/worth using?

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Doesn't matter. You didn't beat the game.

Night and flame was kind of mediocre even before the nerf. The weapon arts hit pretty hard, but they were kind of hard to hit with, and they took a long time to cast.
And if you planned on using both of them then you had to keep leveling INT and FAI because the two skills scaled on different stats.
After the nerf I wouldn't bother with it. Which sucks because it was like the only straight sword in the game worth considering.

Not true, it was absolutely broken. It did an obscene amount of damage even at minimum stats and on top of that, using it in melee range would do insane stagger damage even to bosses.

So is it worth getting or not? I just want a solid straight sword

Longsword or Lordsworn Sword. Simple as.

It's still pretty strong, but you need an odd stat spread to make it really powerful. I would recommend getting the bare minimum faith and strength to use it and pump intelligence and mind.

It's still broken. You may need to do one more attack to kill stuff, but they didn't nerf it hard enough.

Really? Damn that sucks. Basic shit for normal sword users and great sword fellas get everything

pre nerf you could use royal guards resolve and do some absolutely huge numbers with it
post nerf I would call it balanced to be more in line with others
The guy who wrote the wiki page is extremely salty about this
>So is it worth getting or not?
if you don't plan on leveling int/fai then no, if you do then just use it when you feel like it