So in the Miquella DLC we will NO DOUBT find an item to heal her permanently so she can live, right? Right?

You DID heal her permanently with the Unalloyed Gold Needle. She's been afflicted with Scarlet Rot for so long that Preserving Boluses and Flame, Cleanse Me can't help her anymore.

That needle was just glued together with spit and Rot by Gowry. It was meant to just hold her together long enough to form a bond with (You), so when you killed her the betrayal would make her bloom.

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No, the entire point of her story is that she made the decision that Malenia was unwilling to.

I'd rather get an item that unschizos blaidd and severs his connection to the GW.

love milly simple as

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It always...ends like this...

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Too late I already killed her and kept her hand as a trophy.

The gold needle doesn't heal her, at best (the Miquella version not handled by Gowry) it just keeps the rot at bay. Gowry's version however was meddled with and was instead transforming her into something else, probably trying to make her become an avatar of the god of rot like Malenia. That's why she decides to go out on her terms.

To drive the point home even harder they made it so her corpse never disappears. I literally just beat Radagon and went back to that spot, and she's still there.

Why does it work for you after she takes it out? It's the same needle.

Peak cut content.

Also Miquella was working on a permanent way of curing the Scarlet Rot, this is why he embedded himself in the tree, so he could mature (since not being able to mature is his curse, the rot is Malenia's) to break this influence from outer gods.
He's also hinted to be one of the most powerful Empyreans. Obviously this is all before Mohg fucks it all up, though it's also implied that Miquella is alive and left his body behind, becoming Saint Trina.
You just use it to replace Miquella's needle from Malenia's bloom afterwards. Can't really know what happens afterwards.

First you have to do something to it where you killed Melenia which no doubt changes it somehow (it becomes a different item in game). Then you have to use it in a specific place where Millicent clearly never went. Also you are dealing with an entirely different entity with the Frenzied Flame instead of the god of Rot.

>betray her just before going into NG+
>now give her the arm and just leave her happily alive in Elphael
you won't get me to do anything more than that FromSoft

That would also be an Unalloyed Gold Needle.

Why did Millicent wanted to restore Malenia's dignity? that bitch has no dignity or honor as soon as she loses she tries to nuke you with scarlet rot just like she did with Radahn. I feel bad for Millicent for traveling so far and then die for a lost cause.

Is there any evidence that St Trina has been spotted recently or at the very least, after Miquella was abducted by Mohg?

I don't think St. Trina has a physical body, my theory is that it exists entirely in the realm of dreams.

Millicent invades you in the swamp at the start of her quest, speaks of 'nightmares'
She probably feels sympathy for Malenia who likely had to withstand the same influence from the rot but obviously succumbed to it in the end

it's her mom

My theory is Millicent's mind was fucked up because Gowry implanted some fake memories or something, with the end goal being to turn her into another Malenia. That's why she wanted to go on her pilgrimage.

I ask because the mention of St Trina I read mentioned that he disappeared suddenly. Makes sense to me that he would project himself into dreams while part of the haligtree but after Mogh tears him out and defiles him, St. Trina goes MIA

You're gonna fight the rot god radahn style.
Summons
>radahn
>pot bros
>radahns knights
>malenia
>cleanrot knights
>millicent
>miquella
>patches

Source: trust me

What do you mean fake memories? isn't she a relative of Malenia?

Makes sense, but she never reached her and also there's the added detail of her having sisters.

Can you use the needle on malenia's flower before giving it to gowry? nah that would require effort by from

The bugman dude found her as a child in the swamp, so she might not be actually one of Malenia's clones and was just groomed into being one, perhaps via rot infusion or some shit.

The needle is broken before giving it to gowry.

>Gowry's version however was meddled with and was instead transforming her into something else
I'm not so sure it's that deep.

There's literally no sign of her changing into anything else during the entirety of her quest, and needle seemed to have done it's job of simply keeping the rot at bay. Not curing it, but halting it.

You can talk to Gowry several times after Millicent departs, and you get special dialogue for buying that one REALLY suspicious rot spell he has. He's genuinely just knowledgeable about the rot and its literal children on account of being a cultist, and thinks Millicent turning into a Valkyrie is the best for both of them since he truly believes she's going to die to her sisters. It's solely the emotional trauma of betrayal that's supposed to trigger her awakening into a new persona or form, and I'd honestly take Gowry's words at face value because of how honest he is with you about /everything/.

On the topic of the needle, I'm pretty sure it's a point of irony that Malenia's death flower is the final thing needed to perfect the very thing meant to save her. She was doomed, if only from inaction, while Millicent chose to go out on her own terms if she was damned to die or lose herself like her sisters once more.

It's a great quest line because you can sympathize with Gowry too and his feelings of abandonment in a fucked up nightmare world where his only faith lies in the cycle of life and death rot brings with it. It's clear that he genuinely did love her like a father.

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>Malenia used to call you sweet tarnished
>Malenia used to be an friendly npc that could be aggrod into an boss
>Malenia was fighting with her brother close by
>MAlenia would state the Flower will bloom anyway if she dies and would be reborn
All that shit cut. Now i understand why Malenia is the postergirl with an statue. She ahd an fucking huge amount of content and was an friendly npc. Lets hope her content will be brought back for the dlcs. Also really nice that Miyazaki is still too retarded to actually put in all the content and not change everything midway through development, which leads to a lot of good content not being used and part of the game feeling unfinished

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I really don't understand why they cut cool content out of these games, they did the same shit with the previous titles.

Jesus christ man, go outside, talk to an actual girl.

I mean from software is usually reusing cut content. There's a tonne of cut concert for Miquella and Miquella. I don't know if there will be any change to the main characters, but in bloodborne you could take to the doll about gehrman and his nightmare. So the possibility of malenia and millicent getting more content is very much there.

Gowry isn't a human he possess the bodies of the pests

If we can't then Frenzied Flame ending again it is. Everyone else worth saving is dead anyway. Except for Jar Bairn, I guess, but you just know he died on the way to his home planet.

No. Rot only brings suffering and death.

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Nope, she ruined herself in a vain hope of fixing malenia whatever you choose and do in the end

Changing a billion things though devopment instead of speaking to a plan leads to a lot of content in made that is unable to be used because of time restrictions

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Actually makes sense why is she so overtuned, if she's someone you aren't supposed to fight at all unless you go full chaotic nigger murderhobo.

No, the DLC will reveal that the player unwittingly interrupted Melania and Radahn's fight by activating the rot and summoning a meteor.
Then there will be unique dialogue if you do the DLC before their fights.

>Miquella DLC
If they ever bother to bring back the cut content because as of now Haligtree story line is complete with a little tease from Gideon but they can easily ignored it.

Would gladly turn into a MaleniaSimp if they make Milicent an amnesia Malenia, alas, that never come to pass.

>complete
bro shit feels unfinished. Yes, it's "finished" but there is literally nothing going on and you don't get his great rune + considering that fromsoftware loves to reuse content using all the miquella content is an nobrainer.

>part of the game feeling unfinished
In Elden Ring case, content outside of Limgrave feel unfinished aka most of it. Fucking Hell, the fat fuck seriously need to learn to manage his project, he fucking blew it with this one.

>Making chicken soup for Miquella because he caught a little cold

What I mean is they can end it there for Haligtree and make the DLC about something else entirely. Just looking at all the Miquella cut content and it already gave me a face palm, it was very huge and most of it was a wasted content too.

I personally think it's not THAT bad but i knew that something was wrong with the haligtree. Way to fucking big and way too detailed

Limgrave, Liurnia, Caelid (mostly) and Leyndell feel finished to me. It gets worse from there, and the worst part by far is Elphael. Gigantic fucking city chock full of secrets and there is one (1) quest and one (1) boss.

God please yes

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millicent actually spoiled me on the waterfowl attack
I was laughing at her in the swamp and then she went flying at me like a fucking anime
nearly shit me pants

she lost tho

cleansed the rot from it

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