Will we see RTX 4000 series cards in stock for MSRP at any point in time or is this GPU price drop just a meme and it's...

1440p@144hz or 4k@60hz is fine

A new most profitable crypto will emerge when everything stabilizes though. Enjoy the cheap gpus until then.

And we thought we would be SOL until 2025, what a twist.

I have a 1070 with a 1080p60 screen. Never felt like I needed more for any of the games I play.
I'd like something with more single core performance than my 10400f though. It's pretty mediocre for more demanding emulation like xenia or rpcs3.

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There's nothing with any similar kind of hype or interest behind it as ethereum. Cryptobros aren't particularly interested in making it profitable for miners, they'd rather have smaller gas fees and faster transactions. The interests of miners and the interests of people who invest in crypto and develop crypto are in conflict, so this was most definitely an exception.

>4k 120hz is the standard
Didn't know the 0.8% is the norm now.

What is the current CPU king? I haven't upgraded since mu i7 4770k. I don't know what the current tech standards are in the market.

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He said it's the standard to aim for not the norm and also mentioned that there's nothing on the market currently that can consistently give that performance in all games.
I'm inclined to agree. $600 TVs these days are 4k120hz. Your console should be able to fully utilize your TVs capabilites (they don't though) and the average PC should be the same or stronger than a current gen console.

Resolution is demanding user.

>What is the current CPU king?
The 12th Gen i9 is a fucking beast but Intel became a libtard scum company that refuses to hire white people just based on the fact that they're white, so, y'know. Just get a Ryzen.
Probably 5900X is the best around, but I don't know since I'm not an AMD guy yet.

The 11700k for your purposes.

If you want close to the best for gaming and emulation without paying way too much, the 12700F with a B660 board and fast DDR4 will give you decent price/perf.
If you want maximum value, a 12400F or 5600 non-X (available soon, reviews are already out) will be your best bet.
If you want a budget option with still great perf, the 12100F or the soon to be released 5500 are both good options.
Productivity, hands down the 5950x.
Best of the best for gaming, probably the soon to be released 12900KS or 5800X3D.

>F
I'd never go with F CPUs, the only difference is that they don't have an integrated GPU and they barely save you money in most cases, depends on sales and country of course
if it's like a 10-20 bucks difference I'd go with the non-F version
so if your main GPU is fucked you're still able to use your PC with a non-F

You can't really go wrong with Ryzen.

MSRP is meaningless and GPU manufacturers know the "pc master race" fags will drop thousands regardless. The days being able to get a good video card at a decent price are over.

Where I live, it's a 10% difference in price for the 12700 and 12400, and a 30% difference for the 12100 so imo, it's worth it. People are just fine with having no iGP in AMD CPUs so I don't really see an issue recommending the 10-30% cheaper options for the intel ones.

Intel has been hiring chinks and pajeets almost exclusively for 20+ years now
AMD is still kicking their ass though

AMD doesn't have options. The APUs are completely different products even if the cores are the same.

Yes but before they probably did it because they're high IQ and don't care about good pay. Nowadays? You just know it's political.
I don't care about exploitation of third worlders, I care about not letting the jews do as they want.

You guys talk more about graphics cards than actually using them

>implying AMD isn't pozzed
kek, just google AMD LGBT and AMD Diversity

God what the fuck. I guess the only option now is Appl-
>CEO is an actual faggot
Disgusting. I want to fucking die.

Literally every major company has fallen for the identity politics meme because it's the hip thing to do. It's just marketing. They don't actually care about gays, they only care about selling their product to gays as more sales = more profit.

Doesn't really change anything about the user experience though? If you don't have an iGP, you don't have one and if you're fine with not having one, a 10-30% discount should be enough to make you go for that option.

Compare the 12400/12600K/12700K to see what fits your performance and budget needs.
You can also wait for newer stuff from AMD later this year as well as Intel, but the current Alder Lake lineup has shaken the market up a bit - best consumer CPUs in a long time and from intel too.

I got a 3-series for MSRP not long ago and all i had to do was sit in a stock alert discord for a month or so. As long as you don't need a GPU immediately it's fine.

There's negligible performance benefit in gaming from the 12900K compared to its little K brothers, plus you have to pay a bit extra for cooling since the thing runs so damn hot. But if your focus is the best of the best then I can't argue with that.
Also the F is a bit of a headache for the times when integrated graphics can come in clutch, worth the extra money imo.

40 series
>120% improvement over 30 series

30 series bros, did we just get ripped off.

>standard
>that can't be achieved
You don't know how standards work. 60fps 1080p is the standard, anything else is an outlier.

>4k 120hz is the standard to aim for now
>when consoles still can't maintain a locked 60 fps at 1080p
lmfao

I have a 3070 and literally the only games which needed it are Control and Cyberpunk and they were both distinctly average. The most enjoyable game I've played with it is Quake 2 RTX by fucking miles and that is a sad, sad thing

As in 20% faster or 120% faster?
Sounds like bullshit to me.

Shortages are becoming worse on lot of products, scalping will 100% be a thing and MSRP tend to go one gen low, one gen high, last gen was the cheaper one (regarding MSRP). So early gen at least will be difficult.

When do these drop?
I just want to play elden ring man.

Well firstly, yes, because you probably paid scalper prices unless you already had a bot when they dropped the first batches of cards. Secondly though, this is just how technology goes. This is an uncharacteristically large jump, but it just shows that both nvidia and amd are firing on all cylinders trying to get the gaming crown.

So... Wait™ until 5000 series? Fuck me.

40 series is using a new GPU architecture multichip design (Chiplets) and HBM3.

depends
are you willing to buy a new psu for a new gpu? that's what you're going to have to do with the 40 series

Well how expensive can it be anyways? $150 tops? I wouldn't mind.

That still doesn't answer my question.

If you found a 30% discount go for it. It's usually like 15 bucks less.

The figure I've heard was 80-120%. In games, they'll probably end up being 80% better at best per tier, unless it's ray tracing. 120% increase there easy.
The reason for this is that Nvidia will move to 5nm TSMC, which can clock higher, run more efficiently and have higher yields than the Samsung 8nm they used this gen. The 4090 (according to leaks) is projected to have 136SMs (65% more than the 3090 had at 82) and clock 15% higher, while also having better IPC. A 120% uplift is not unreasonable, especially for ray tracing.

yes it does you moron, that's the only way the new GPU architecture can offer that must improvement is if it uses a new GPU + 30 series GPU

100% false. Nvidia didn't get MCM working and they're using GDDR6x again.

>AMDjeet troon cope

All the reputable leakers like kopite and the rest of the twitter fags who got most of their shit right in the past are all saying ada is monolithic. What your source?
They're moving from shitty samsung 8nm to far more advanced 5nm TSMC making dies the same size while having 65% more compute units on it and also being able to clock it higher. Why the fuck do you think they need MCM or HBM3 to match or beat AMD?

It depends on what serie you want 60 70 or 80. 3080 should become cheaper and more available all year long as people will wait for the 4080. You need to know if you are ok with the fact that you will get a 800$ 3080 that will perform as well as the 4070 releasing in a few months. If you manage to get a 4000 at all.

i'm very happy with my 3060 actually :)

I have an RX 590 right now, I just want to play on my TV at native resolution for god's sake. Anything that will give me 4K 60 at unga bunga ultra settings is fine.

Unfortunatelly 3080s are ephemeral and got fucked by retarded MSRPs after launch. "MSRP" for a 3080, 3080ti or 3080 12gb is over 1k.