Why is it that a lot of people still say things stop being retro at 2000, even after /vr/ accepted the 6th gen as retro? What's so special about the year 2000?
These consoles are not only old, but they're very noticeably different from modern consoles. 2000 just feels like a very arbitrary cutoff to me.
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I think 2000 is a hard arbitrary cutoff but I also don't think the sixth gen should be considered retro. It's hard to articulate but game design was kind of modernized and a new foundation was laid. I can get the fifth gen because devs were still experimenting but by the sixth gen it's basically just current day shit but better
Retro = the 16 bit era and earlier
I will not hear otherwise in this house young man
I disagree. The Gamecube would not fit in with modern consoles at all. The aesthetics scream 2000s.
/vr/ is a pointless board.
>he thinks I'm talking about aesthetics
I'm talking about game design.
Btw, some Gamecube games look better than modern games (e.g.Baten Kaitos)
You are a pointless person.
>dreamcast
>6th gen
Get that failure outta here it doesn't belong. Take him to the 5th gens.
I think when people think of Xbox as being retro it kicks in a weapons grade depression for a lot of people
Yeah most people struggle with getting older.
Project harder, loser.
I still don't understand why 2000 is the cutoff for so many though. Just because it's a round number? The 6th gen technically started in the 90s with the Dreamcast, but before the rule change /vr/ considered the Dreamcast retro solely because it came out before 2000.
I don't see the significance of that year. Nothing became of Y2K.
who knows, they have to make a distinction somewhere I guess. Personally I'm fine with anything over 20 years old being considered "retro".
all of this, but also if we call shit like PS2 "retro" then that means it's grouped in with NES and other actual retro consoles. It's better to just come up with a new term than group it all in together.
The 3ds is retro now that the shop is shutting down.
The PS2 has more in common with the N64 than the N64 has in common with the NES, but people still insist on the N64 being retro and the PS2 not being retro.
All the shit in your picture is retro now
NES/SNES are vintage now
You are getting old
A really good example of this is the MGS series.
MGS2 was still top-down even , which is the same as MGS (and MG1 and MG2), and the whole point was that the premise was pretty similar and you did very similar things to Snake in MGS2. But the actual gameplay is really different despite being the same on its surface. There was so much more you could do in terms of actions, how things controlled, the generational graphics leap was huge, even though at their core it's the same series and the games are intentionally designed to be similar on some level, they're not really close in terms of how they were designed
and I'm not saying one is better than the other, I mean there's just different design philosophies at play.
>but 2D to 3D leap changed game design too
Yeah but early 3D plays completely differently from "modern" 3D (i.e. fifth and sixth gen) which is my point.
Atari is heirloom now.
trips of truth
>even after /vr/ accepted
More like raped into submission and still grumbling.
>6th gen
People who number generations are retarded.
There is no clear definition of what retro is when it comes to vidya. It’s up to you to decide what’s retro for you. For me the PS4 and Xbox One are retro, just how I see it and no can do any a thing about it.
Based. Retro is whatever you want it to be.
>just how I see it and no can do any a thing about it
Murrica says that cars become antiques after 25 years. So maybe in another 3 years...
/vr/ hated the prospect of the board being filled with brown thirdies whose first console was the PS2, they knew they'd become another version of Yea Forums.
>cars
>video games
>same thing
When were you diagnosed with retardation? I’m sorry there is no cure.
/vr/ still doesn't like 6th gen shit being allowed.
>20+ year old products aren’t retro
What the fuck is wrong with these retards
It's a simile dumbass
Any previous console is retro. That includes the PS4 and Xbone
Eventually, they will be
Not registering sarcasm is a clear indicator of Autism
In my world they already are. And my world is the only one that matters.
Is this Yea Forums, being on the spectrum is a requirement to post.
There is no finite cutoff. The cutoff largely happened somewhere in the 5th gen. The 6th gen was just the first gen where everything starting from that point and beyond was no longer retro.
That's why it should be a definite number of years, and the 6th gen should be considered retro now or very soon.
Soliphsism is the midwit of philosophies, a Dunning-Kruger type of cope for cowards.
Did you get your peepee touched when you were little?
Completely false. Retro is objectively a form and style that is considered obsolete or outdated compared to modern.
Retro is a style, not an age.
Give it enough time and generations and things now will be retro
>source: dude trust me
This. For all intents and purposes the 6th gen is where video gaming really began (and where it peaked if we're being honest). Not to disparge the older gens, the 4th gen was the first golden age, they just feel like a completely different world from the 6th gen onwards.
>fully 3d z buffer polygonal, not 2d pixelated
>analog inputs were primary, d pad inputs secondary
>external saves
>heavy emphasis on multiplayer
>3d open worlds
N64 was objectively the first modern console.
Yes but that won't happen until a massive medium shift going from 2d to 3d. When all vidya goes to VR than everything we currently classify as modern will be reclassified as retro.
I would say the 6th gen aesthetically feels more like the 5th gen world than the 9th gen world. I mean look at this. You would NEVER see a menu screen like this now.
The dictionary and commonly accepted definitions of words, actually.
There's plenty of menu screens similar to that.
Your so called “dictionary” is nothing more than a Jewish ploy to undermine our language and subvert our culture. Only retards fall for Jewish tricks.
Dreamcast: youtube.com
Nintendo 64: youtube.com
You seriously think these are in the same gen?
For your sake I hope you're baiting
Anything between 1990 up to 2005 should be considered retro, with both Halo 2 and Halo 3 being exception to this rule..
After 2005, social media like Facebook and Twitter came around and in 2007 the iPhone and the rise of smartphones put the final nail in the coffin. Nothing after 2005 will ever be retro for all eternity.
Because millenials are reaching mid-life crisis age
How's that any different then their normal life?
The Coleco Vision is an antiquity and Pong is paleoethological
That’s according to (you), I consider anything before 2021 to be retro.
True. I wonder if I can get one actually made with real wood
I disagree. I consider the Long 20th Century to be 1898-2007, because 2008 was when iPhones became popular, the Great Recession happened, and Facebook became mainstream. It was a three-punch kill for the world, and officially ushered in the 21st century, where China is now the leading superpower.
Phones and social media has nothing to do with video games
...
The longer gaming exists, the longer it takes something to become 'retro'. Sorry, sweatie.
They certainly have to do with the fall of the West and the permanent degenerating globalist agenda.
>When all vidya goes to VR than everythin
You mean goes to cellphones. Oh wait, that's now
Well he was wrong about iPhones and Facebook really being a thing in 2007 anyway.
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2007 was the real last year of the 20th century.
OOT came out in 98, Sonic Adventure came out 1 month later.
PS2
>22 years old
>Memory cards
>Expansion bay
>DVD player
>Blue discs
>USB 1.1
>Only 2 controller ports
>Multi-tap
>No native HDMI
>480i
That's just off the top of my head and it is somehow not retro according to retards afraid of the relentless passage of time
Bait
i keked
All of these are reasons why PS2 isn't retro
Aside from the Nazi-ish rhetoric, he's not wrong that iPhones and corporate social media destroyed all soul in the world. However, the solution is LESS capitalism, not more.
>No native HDMI
Every system that had RCA cables available is certainly retro, so everything back from PS3/360/WiiU
Right, because e-thots, 6sec attention span TikTok videos and trash like Five Nights at Freddy's and huggy wuggy is so fondly remembered and should be considered retro in 20 years from now.
This post glows.
You could make this point without talking about "the West" and "globalists".
you forgot
>Composite/S-Video
>CD-ROM or G-ROM
>Multi-Tap
>GunCon
Compare Western society from the 2000s with society from the 2010s. Before and after social media, iPhones and the Great Recession.
Which would be the everything except gen 7 (minus the Wii, which would be retro), which is exactly what I've been saying for a while now.
But that's not exclusive to the West. Japan is the most eastern country and they suffered from iPhones and the recession too.