What if we made dark souls, but with non shit combat

>Lack of open world
And that is a good thing

>what if we took Dark Souls, improved on the combat, but made EVERYTHING else worse
most faggot contrarian game in the world

I personally don't mind it, but that's the only legit critic point I could see people have when comparing Nioh vs. Dark Souls. In the end it's just a matter of personal preference.

The combat is the most important part of an action game

Should I start with Niho 1 or 2? I've almost finished ER and I need to suffer more.

Dark Souls is an RPG

Friendly reminder

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>Repeats bosses and enemies far more than ER
How come its ok when Nioh does it?

lol barely

Quality advice for the shill in training.

Neither. The Nioh series is garbage.

I'd say go with Nioh 2, as Nioh 1 lacks enemy variety and a character creator. Consider Nioh 1 when you're done with 2 and feel like you want more.

>no atmosphere
>shit writing
>no exploration
>cancerous Diablo gear system
>massively bloated unlock system for moves and upgrades, over 99% are useless
Sorry, combat can't carry that

Nioh 2 is genuinely too hard for Fromdrones since you have to actually learn which moves to block, which ones to dodge, switch stances, manage your Ki, learn different skills and combos for weapons, manage interacting gear effects, and learn enemy patterns to play it, while From games are
>roll
>R1
And that's it.

I like both, Nioh 2 has more polish but Nioh 1 is more grounded

It filtered millions....

Nioh 2 is better in every single way, but probably better to start with Nioh 1 because if you don't you'll never be able to play it after experiencing 2.

Dude, its really not that complicated. They are fine games but fanboys really put its combat on a pedestal.

Soulslikes should be called Niohlikes, because Nioh set new standards for the genre that Fromsoft can never hope to achieve.

Nioh's combat is a farce. It's not better than Souls, it's just bloated for the sake of it.
It literally added a reload mechanic to sword combat.

Think I'll start with 2 seen as it is over all better than 1. I'll play Sekiro after that and come back to Nioh 1

Its mechanically more complex but that doesn't make the game harder. In Nioh 2 there's less incentivize to trial and error learn enemy patterns bc you have so much arsenal to beat them.

My problem with Nioh games isn't that they're shovelware dogshit. There are many really bad games, whatever. But the fact that these two piles of trash exist at all ends up drastically lowering the chances of us ever getting a proper, non-shit Souls type game in a feudal Japan setting. A shame. Would've been kino.

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Why did you reply to yourself?

More than an action game

Niohs combat is its best feature. It's great.
The biggest complain with Nioh is the awful loot system that you don't really interact with until post game

Learn to shill like the soulsbab. They know a thing or two you'd benefit from.

And in Elden Ring you can just summon mimic, then stand still and spam broken spells as the boss healthbar melts in a matter of 5 seconds.

Most maps in Nioh are so bad i'd rather take the average combat and good scenery of souls games. Other than a few creative chapters (specifically Viper's Sanctum, Hollow Fortress and Pervading Waters) the maps are a jumbled mess where everywhere looks the same

>and instead of non shit combat it will have shit level design and a skinnerbox loot system
1 step forward 2 steps back

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Why do you make this thread every day? Are you that one retard with the ghoulish Hiddy?

Correct. Both games can be broken, bosses can be one shot.

filtered

Nioh is way easier though. Like no doubt the combat is better but at the end of the day it's a lot of flashy shit to make you FEEL bad ass but if you look under the hood it's so forgiving and easy

The level design is fine, it's not any worse than DaS1. And the loot is braindead, no one who complains about it has actually reached the postgame where it actually matters.

The loot system is a funny complaint to me. People see all these different stats and rarities and their brains just shut the fuck down when in reality you just use the bigger attack number until you unlock true set bonuses and graces.

Niohggers who genuinely think it's this huge step up are genuinely retarded. It's better, no doubt, but it isn't complicated to anyone with even lukewarm iq
>well i guess that precludes fromdrones
The iframing niggers yeah

yep, I just used the highest level gear without thinking about anything else until I hit post game

The first game is good and I'd honestly start with it. Pirate it or something and just play through the first difficulty then move on to 2. If you play the second game first then going back to the first game is actually pretty fucking rough.

>getting filtered by a game that is somehow even easier than demons souls and ds3
Lol
The game gives you so much shit, it's more comparable to sekiro than souls but if sekiro had even more crutches

Not really, in Fromsoft you can literally tank through multiple heavily telegraphed boss hits as you keep taking chunks out of their lifebar with each swing of your weapon.
In Nioh 2 you keep merely chipping away at their lifebar for 2 minutes at a time while 1 minor fuckup usually means you die.
I'm not even trying to say Nioh 2 is the hardest game ever, but it makes every Fromsoft game look like a children's birthday party by comparison.

Were Code Vein threads this bad when it came to shitty bait?

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People seem to ignore the Special Effects on your equipment, but it's so important.

>the loot is braindead,
> no one who complains about it has actually reached the postgame where it actually matters.

Yeah, but instead of crying about the loot they cried about muh anime

Yeah, it has an hp sponge issue as well

I like both

More like a cheese protection.

Until we get a game that has the depth and fun of Nioh's combat mixed with the sense of worldbuilding and exploration that ER gives, we'll just have to play both intermittently

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Oh shut up, code vein is for literal manchildren who think dark souls is too edgy and what it really needed was an overwatch art style

>the sense of worldbuilding and exploration that ER gives
ER's world-building and exploration is ass. Give me back DSIII or Bloodborne for that.

That would be a cheese encouragement if anything.

>In Nioh 2 you keep merely chipping away at their lifebar for 2 minutes
This only applies to NG++[...] though. I've cheesed the game twice with Onmyo and Ninjutsu crap without even needing faction bonuses or all minmaxxing buffs. The bosses would die before I even depleted my throwables, let alone use any healing item

>Barely any dialog choices
>B-But you can level up!

>overwatch art style
>Code Vein
Are you fucking stupid?

>Souls games are just about rolling, it sucks!

Meanwhile Nioh 2 is literally: Press the right button when the boss glows red: The Game.

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But user, code vein was way edgier than any souls game

The right two buttons, actually.

How about you go back to simping for your blue alt skin konosuba waifu before you complain about muh anime on an anime website of all things?

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DSIII rides solely off of DS1's coattails and doesn't have fuckall else to show for it.
I'll give you BB though that shit's excellent. Just remaster it for PS5 already, From, you know it'll print money

Lmao watch this youtu.be/TUaGPGjh58I

I don't have to, I've played the game 4 times already

Sorry, maybe I need a special ed school to tell apart your zoomer garbage