I really love this whole thing when a small dev stands up to a huge company and their shit business practices...

Imagine if somebody takes something you made and begins selling it on their own platform on the premise of "it's just the hardware bro".

What don't you get about the word permission.
Steam would never pull this kind of trick.

Nvidia isn't selling anything they rely on you owning the game and they just allow you to stream it

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Are you people retarded? NVidia is just allowing you to stream games that you already own.

Why does a service that is strictly on the hardware side need permission? The customer already owns the license to the game, so why can't they play it on the machine of their choice?

In other words, they're in direct competition with the devs if they ever wanted to port something. You still pay money, but now you're giving it to the the company that had nothing to do with the game. They're not even the publisher, they're just passively flossing money from exisitng games.

It's not about the customer, its about the devs and nvidia making decisions they're simply not allowed to make

What is illegal or immoral about what NVidia is doing?

Actually no. You already bought the game on steam and that's what Nvidia uses. If anything it encourages buying the game. You have a clear ignorance on this. You're basically saying despite already owning the game people shouldn't be allowed to stream it without paying the devs even more money. Ultra kike

You're a fucking moron, dude.

>illegal or immoral
I didn't use those words, but since you did.

Pretty sure there a terms & agreement which says how a game may be distributed.
And distributing someones work without permission is illegal and immoral

>free promotion and sales
>waaa they should have asked first! how dare they, it's not fair!

They aren't allowing you to play games that you don't own. What is the issue here? This is the same as me buying a game on Steam and then using my buddy's PC to play it.

Nvidia bought the game for that hardware and you are using that hardware. Where's the controversy other than greedy jewish devs demanding "their share"?

Then look it up, and tell us what terms are being violated

An indie dev trying to make it is hard greedy or selfish, these people work on tight margins you probably don't understand

That's a very smoothbrain way of thinking. All this gonna do is inflate pc game prices, give more control of your games to third parties and fuck up all other platform markets, because why the fuck would you even bother making ports then.
And this is the future you choose willingly, because at the end of the day you fuckers drop all of your morals the moment something is five bucks cheaper.

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Stay mad poor commie

>dictating where someone who has already bought your game can play said game isn't about the customer
Honest question, are you retarded?
I'm 100% fine with developers being able to make the decision if they want to, but any push back they receive from their paying customers is also 100% justified since it's common sense that someone should be able to play the game they purchased regardless of the machine they want to play it on.

This.

Guarantee they make more than the $9.80 and hour I do so I really don't care

>talks about anti-consumerism
>while complaining that he cant STREAM A GAME

This has to be satire, or a troll, or both.

There has already been no reason to buy a game on anything but PC. Streaming tech isn't even perfect yet; latency is a thing.

What other fucking platforms? It's on pc you dumb fucker

>All this gonna do is inflate pc game prices
why?
>give more control of your games to third parties
why?
>other platform markets
Fine by me, centralize the market so we're free of stupid "multiplats" and storefront wars.

Cry about it jewboy

Yeah I have no fucking clue what shitty 2d indy sidescroller with retro graphics this thread is about and I don't really care suck my balls

ITT stadia refugees crying because no country will take them

no country for stream men

>limiting what you (THE CONSUMER) can do with your product
>not anti-consumer

do you understand what geforce now does?

I swear half this thread are people who dont even understand the concept of streaming and the other half (rightly) saying that this shoudnt be a problem and the indie dev overacted and is stepping outside their boundary

Geforce now streams games from one machine to another, you have to own the game first to stream it
You can already do this using steam, you can install steam on two machines and stream them to each other
This is literally the same thing, but a hardware based solution instead of software, so it inherently has lower latency/better streaming or whatever

Why is more customer choice a bad thing?

>limiting the power a dev has over the distribution of his work

>not the signs of a communist dictatorship at all

>game streaming
>(((YOUR))) product
So a troll, thanks for correcting the record.

>Sure the developers posted retarded twitter comments which made them look like twats
Caps?

>This is literally the same thing, but a hardware based solution instead of software,

Steam is hardware based idiot

Nvidia isn't distributing the software, how many times does this need to be explained to you retards?

I'm a consumer. I don't want the game that I bought on Steam or Gog be available on GeForce. Now what?

It would be funny to find the guy who actually uses GeForce Now and this game.

>available on GeForce
Good news then, you can't play it on geforce if you haven't bought it on steam first. Now what?

Fuck geforce, Steam forever!

HEY NVIDIA IMBECILES

IF GEFORCE NOW IS SO GREAT, HOW COME NO BIG DEV AND PUBLISHER LIKE ROCKSTAR WANT TO SUPPORT IT

DO YOU GET IT NOW YOU FUCKING MORONS?! NVIDIA DOESN'T GET TO CONTROL THE CONTENT IT DIDN'T HELP CREATE, HOW HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND YOU SHITS?!

The problem here is that in order to decrease the latency nvidia caches a version of the game on their own servers which is why not every game is supported. That cached game is what publishers are flipping out on. Now whether or not it's illegal I don't know.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright

>why?
Because literally every fucking game publisher currently banks on ports. What the fuck do you think will happen. Will they A) Just accept making 20% of what they did before. or B) Increase the price by 500% to make up for the losses?
>give more control of your games to third parties
>why?
Because with streaming services you own even less of the game and worryingly, even less of the hardware. If you think any streaming service isn't thinking long-term of how to exploit this, you're a fucking moron.
>Fine by me, centralize the market so we're free of stupid "multiplats" and storefront wars.
Stupidest fucking thing said in this thread. I hope you will come to enjoy the videogame as service monopoly as much as people have come to enjoy american cable networks.

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>game streaming
>more consumer choice

You forfeit your right to own games the moment you touch streaming, its as anti-consumer as it gets.

How does providing hardware for people to play the games they've already purchased on another platform mean Nvidia's violating copyright?

Geforce Now is a Paid service, therefore a distribution method.

Geforce were in the wrong on this one.

acting as another information gatekeeper means they are violating the copyright.

>how does distributing a copyrighted work without permission from the creator violate copyright?

>Just accept making 20% of what they did before

Are you really trying to suggest that people purchase the same game on five different platforms?

>How does allowing people to play a Sony game I've already purchased on Xbox violate copyright?

>communist brainlets
So, you should have to re-buy the game every time you go to an internet cafe too right? Only makes sense by your logic. If you aren't going to play it on your own PC, but one rented to you instead, you need to buy a new copy.

ah, that makes a lot of sense now
I can see that Nvidia need to ask permission to install the game to their cloud servers (for people to play on)
The implicit permission from owning the game is the legal grey area, that may or may not excuse what Nvidia do
I can only see it as a benefit though to the developer, the more people who can play the game the better right?

No, maybe an exagerration.
Usually it's about three.

What kind of cuckold would do that?

Retard

>I already own those nintendo game cd's, how is it a copyright violation if sony allows their hardware to play them on ps4?

>Because literally every fucking game publisher currently banks on ports
Do they?
>Because with streaming services you own even less of the game
How so?
>and worryingly, even less of the hardware
lmao.
>as much as people have come to enjoy american cable networks
I don't see how that's remotely comparable. Are you insinuating that you must buy all games available to the platform, rather than pick and choose?

What are they distributing?

They aren't gatekeeping anything. They are providing a service that let's people play their steam libraries on their hardware. Are internet cafes violating copyright too?
Nvidia isn't distributing the game. Thanks for showing everyone you don't know anything about the topic at hand, dipshit.
>playing a pc game on another pc is the same as playing a sony game on xbox
This might be the dumbest post in the thread, good job.

access to content they didn't create

The way how I see it is that it would encourage more people to buy on PC. Not everyone has a high end gaming rig so this would be a great choice to enjoy games at max settings without the upfront cost of a $2000 system.
As for the cached thing, I think if nvidia is sued they would probably lose because the law hasn't really caught up

nobody
is
streaming
on
consoles
brainlet

>Do they?
Do a cursory fucking check. No really, go here: steam250.com/ and check how many of these games do not have a port.

But I already own that content

underrated post

you do, but nvidia doesn't. so they don't get to have any say in the content's distribution

>playing a pc game on another pc is the same as playing a sony game on xbox
Ok nigger riddle me this. What differentiates nvidia's streaming service from a console? You are exclusively using their hardware to play games on. This is actually, literally a console designed to play games from other platforms.

Should you also ask developers / publishers for permission to play games on your newly bought rig as well?

I don't see how that's arguing anything.
If you have 5 glasses of water, each containing 200ml, you can drink from either cup, but you'll get the same amount of water if you drank a single time from a glass containing 1l.

>Ports exist therefore devs bank on people buying the same game multiple times to make a profit

yes they do, they have to own the games to install and run them on their servers

If it's for my personal use only, it shouldn't matter.
Not like they're giving people who don't own the game access to the files.

for private use, not for further distribution

Not only did the dev say you need his permission to play the game on a different computer, he expects you to ask for permission to be able to mod the game.

>since I'm a consumer, I have the right to tell other consumers they aren't allowed to consume
this is why socialism fails

I have no idea what you were thinking when writing this food analogy.

Yes. They bank on you buying X ports. If ports are no longer a thing, they now make your game cost X times as much. The difference there is that if you're somebody who doens't give a shit about ports in the first place, now your games cost X times as much, because big brain twitter whos now think PORTS BAD.

stadia is a console so nvidia is too

Nvidia is an AMERICAN family company, it's our fucking duty as warriors of freedom to support and defend them against attacks made by filthy liberal sjw devs.

Socialism would be the state enforcing what you can and can't do with the penalty of death for you and your entire family branch. What you're complaining about is pure capitalism. The individual customer here is supposed to be the empowered one.

So when the Switch port comes out, should TV companies ask this fag for permission for his game to be played on said TVs?

it is for private use, I'm playing the games I own for my own use

It's absolutely not illegal and they could simply tell the devs to ram their concerns. But if you ever want to sell games through your platform directly then you don't want to be alienating devs and publishers before you've got a stranglehold on the market.

now say that as nvidia corp in a court of law and see how it holds up

maybe they fucked up with that game, but they made deals with developers, so you don't have a point

seriously, this is like Bungie trying to shut down Rooster Teeth for making money off their Red vs Blue series

They don't need permission to run steam on their servers, retard. That's all nvidia is doing here, letting you stream the games you already paid for

You're retarded m8. It's still running on pc. There is no competition here. By your retarded logic, paying your ISP for internet access is not ok because it allows you to use online services they didn't pay for

Stop moving the goalpost you fucking retard
They aren't distributing anything, I own the games, and I'm playing them, they aren't selling the games you retard

It does but nvidia probably wont take it to court because they'll ruin a lot of business relationships

>Socialism would be the state enforcing what you can and can't do
yes, a state that is elected by brainless people who care more about controlling their neighbors than about being free to make their own decisions
>with the penalty of death for you and your entire family branch.
not actually a part of socialism, but it does always end up that way because of the point made above
as soon as the state actually starts giving the idiots who voted for them what they demand, it becomes the "Not Real Socialism" police state, as an inevitable result of the laws of mathematics

How is it possible to be this fucking stupid?

you don't own anything though. see, accepting contracts have consequences.

>streaming not in direct competition with the platforms the game is also distributed on

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Okay, I own a licence to use the content
So why can't I use geforce now to use the content?

>What the fuck did you just fucking post about me, you little libtard? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the PragerU, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on facebook, and I have over 300 confirmed keks. I am trained in meme warfare and I'm the top shitposter in the entire kekistani forces. You are nothing to me but just another basedboy. I will troll you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this imageboard, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with posting that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of mods across Yea Forums and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, snowflake. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking trolled, kid. I can post anywhere, anytime, and I can trigger you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my wojak posts. Not only am I extensively trained in owning libs epic style, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the right wing intelligentsia and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the board, you little cuck. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" post was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking reply. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking trolled, commie.

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It's not. Are you really that retarded? It's still running on Steam. You still have to buy and activate your games on Steam in order to play them on geforce now. It's not that hard to grasp

you didn't pay for a game, you paid for an end user license, which includes downloads to your personal devices. nvidia's cloud isn't your personal device. if anything you said was true, nvidia would be the first to assert that they don't need anyone's permission. their lawyers know better.

then why are they even keeping them on their servers? you paid for the card, meaning you paid for the service, yet the dev doesn't get what nvidia is making. that's the whole problem here. that's why I (yes, I) as a video game developer would never allow my game on nvidia's geforce now. i'm not going to make money for them. they will have to work for it, just like i do. and that's why you will NEVER see Red Dead Redemption 2 on Geforce now

>Rooster Teeth is in direct competition with Bungie because someone might say, "I'd buy Halo, but honestly I'd rather watch Red vs. Blue"
this is how stupid you sound

>all the retards in this thread that stopped replying after finally understanding what geforce now actually is
hilarious

Completely wrong on all counts except for the end user license which says nothing about streaming

They aren't. Stop posting when you don't even understand the concept of what they are doing, retard

you should ask nvidia if you really don't understand it

Just looked it up, apparently there is a paid tier in GForce Now that works with your steam games. Now i am 100% on the side of the developer. This is Nvidia profiting off someone elses work.

user above has a point. This is literally stadia, except they're not even building their own hardware and don't even bother to license games. It's a genius scheme that costs them nothing and has managed to make everyone hate ports within less than a day. I can't even hate on jewry this good.

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people like you are the reason why communism is coming to america, and i'm gonna have to move out, because you deserve communism. i don't.

saying i'm wrong doesn't make it true. you have no counterargument, you lose.

nvidia doesn't own the game tho, so they don't have a license to cache the game
If you don't own something or don't have an agreement you can't use it

They're keeping it on the servers so I can access it. The dev also doesn't get a chunk of the money that amd, or intel or nvidia make when I buy my PC you spastic

Nah. You don't understand what this is about and you clearly have no idea what communism is either. You're just plain retarded
Not really because you didn't provide any actual arguments either except one which is blatantly false. If your argument was true, Steam would be breaking the law by allowing you to stream your own games using their platform. You're another retard with too low an iq to understand the topic

Retard, here an extract from segas EULA
license to install and use one (1) copy of the Game Software solely and exclusively for your personal and non-commercial use.
How is it being on geforce now for me to use either non-personal or commercial?

Imagine not being on nvidia's side in this, it's the equivalent of railing against region-free dvd players or something.
Surely has to be a consolebaby thing.

Alright, I've made it easier for you to understand then.
Do you think it'll be possible for me to pour this 5 liter glass into these 5 1l glasses?

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>communist brainlets
But the dev is the one demanding that he be paid double for the game.

It's frustrating to see all the retards arguing how it's fine cause it's just a free service.

STREAMING IS NOT FREE. YOU DO HAVE TO PAY TO USE IT.

Every single platform, streaming or not, licenses a game to be sold because of that, so that a part of the sales goes to the developers. Nvidia pays them fucking nothing. If I were a dev I'd pull out of this shit too.

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you dont own ANYTHING if you are streaming a game fucking moron

Either that or people 'merely pretending' to be retarded

What in the fuck are you are talking about.

>This is Nvidia profiting off someone elses work
Why? Because they are allowing remote access to hardware you can use to play the developer's game that you already paid for? By your logic, all pc part manufacturers are also profiting off of the developer's work since you had to pay them for the parts to build the pc (that's sitting next to your desk right now) to run the developer's game.

I'm willing to bet all the people against nvidia are underage retards. It's a perfect real world demonstration of how the average IQ is getting lower for the first time since we started recording it

Yes but you have to buy the game on Steam before you can play it on GeForce now.

how so?

>oh no - he's too autistic
Imagine if water was "consumer base" instead, do you understand now?

>company presses button
>you can no longer play "your" game
Show us that proof of ownership on your game streaming platform user.

>you don't own a game you are streaming from your own personal steam library
Never post again.

Pay the dev for fucking what? Does Sony have to pay Atlus every time I play Persona 5 on a Sony TV?

But it's on my steam library

Are you legitimately a certified retard or have your parents just neglected to get you tested?

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It's legit funny to see how quickly twitter has brainwashed people into believing that multiplat games are bad and wrong. Looking forward to the wave of people boycotting games for "making you pay twice" them if you want a port.

It's not a streaming service in the same sense that something like Netflix is though. You need to own the game that you want to stream. You would be right if NVidia allowed you to stream games that you didn't buy, but that isn't the case.

Except you're not actually streaming the fucking game like Stadia. You own the game. You bought the game. You can simply play it on another PC that it's not currently installed on.

suppisedly because accessing your game through GeForce Now isn't EXACTLY the same as running your own personal copy on your own personal computer, apparently
not sure why, probably devs hoping to re-sell the game to customers who already bought it just because they want to play it on a different PC than the one they originally installed it to

>YOU DO HAVE TO PAY TO USE IT
Sure you have to, you FUCKING PAY THE DEVS FOR THE FUCKING GAME. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THE DEV TWICE JUST TO PLAY IT ON A 2ND COMPUTER, THE DEV HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID.

NO YOU FUCKING DONT
YOU ARE PAYING FOR A LICENSE TO PLAY THE GAME
YOU DO NOT FUCKING OWN IT AND THEY CAN >>>>>>>>>>LEGALLY

Game costs 10 bucks on 3 platforms.
Publisher makes 30 bucks.
Nobody buys it anywhere but one platform now.
Publisher now makes 10 bucks.
Publisher would like to still be making 30 bucks.
They make the game cost 30 bucks now.

I'm sorry I have to write like this, but I genuinely believe you might be retarded.

You're a danger to yourself and everyone around you. Please stop posting.

But I own the game on steam so that doesn't hold up at all, I can just install it to whatever device I want

>i dont wanna play twice to play the game on a different device
>here, i will just pay nvidia again for the same thing
>heh, everyone is stupid but me

>Game exists on 3 platforms
You're right, that must mean people buy it on all 3 platforms.

>THEY CAN >>>>>>>>>>LEGALLY

indie devs still make more money than most americans

>I genuinely believe you might be retarded.
The pot calling the kettle a nigger right here

So people are up in arms against Nvidia with no actual knowledge on what the thing they're offering even is
Someone said streaming once and everyone immediately assumed it was like Netflix or Stadia and they refuse to hear otherwise

Steam cant either you fucking brainless idiotic retard

But you aren't paying NVidia for the games. You are paying to use their PC.

Retard. You clearly don't know anything about GeForce now

user you're fighting a losing fight against autism. Wait 10 years until streaming services start to arbitrarily limit devices or charge extra for time and games are reduced to the globohomo AAA trash and everyone starts complaining. And then laugh at them.

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You are extremely welcome to educate us user, because their own website makes it clear its exactly like netflix or stadia.

>steam can't deny access to a game you purchased on their platform
Yes they can you fucking brainless idiotic retard

>i dont wanna play twice to play the game on a different device
>here, i will just pay nvidia again for the same thing
Nigger this isn't Stadia or Epic Games. it's not a fucking store. It's a streaming service that allows you to run YOUR OWN GAMES on any computer you want. Out of the country? At another house? Using an old computer? It allows you to run YOUR OWN GAMES on a virtual PC. That's it. You don't buy the game again.

Do you individually purchase every show or movie that you watch on Netflix?

yes, and socialism is about taking control of the means of production away from the bourgeois consumers and giving it to the noble workers
then when the workers start proving their means of production is no longer even indirectly controlled by consumers, by producing things no consumer wants, the consumers try to refuse to pay for the products they don't want
then the government has to intervene, and either
>force the workers to stop making shit the consumers won't buy (the Ronnie Ray-Gun solution)
>force the consumers to buy shit they don't want (the solution every other socialist state used)
the former is basically admitting socialism doesn't work and going back to capitalism, the latter automatically turns the socialist state into "That Wasn't REAL Socialism"

The company is legally allowed to sue Nvidia because they are advertising their games without their consent, however, if Nvidia allowed you to play every Steam game, then things wouldn't be so bad, you basically host a VM in their servers and play every game you own on Steam.
They have a list of supported games, this is goes beyond the legal grey area in most countries, it's only a matter of time until some money hungry legal firm convinces a dev to take action against Nvidia.
Nvidia is in the wrong here, if you are going to advertise very specific games, you need to ask for a license and permission.

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No it's not. They just provide the hardware. You still have to buy the games from stream to play them.

It's my personal device for the duration that I rent the cloud server

I searched geforcenow on google and got this as the first result.
>GeForce NOW instantly transforms nearly any laptop, desktop, Mac, SHIELD TV or Android mobile device into the PC gaming rig you've always dreamed of. Instantly play the most demanding PC games and seamlessly play across your devices.
Are you pretending to be retarded or are you actually retarded?

Show us 1 case in the history of steam operating that they got away with taking away someones game without getting lawsuited, getting your account banned is not taking away your games, you can still download and play every single one that you own.

So you pay Nvidia and then gain access to a bunch of games you don't have to buy?
Or do you have to buy the game, and Nvidia provides a paid service that lets you play it on any computer?
Which is it user?

>order new hdmi cable from amazon
>plug it in
>NO YOU HAVE TO BUY THE GAME AGAIN SUPPORT THE DEVS THEY DON'T AGREE WITH YOU MOVING FROM DISPLAYPORT TO HDMI

>go to internet cafe
>launch game
>NO YOU CAN'T JUST PLAY THE GAME ON A DIFFERENT PC YOU NEED A NEW LICENSE HOW DARE YOU

This is how stuff like pic related gets normalized.

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why would anyone buy the same game three times?

>STREAMING IS NOT FREE. YOU DO HAVE TO PAY TO USE IT.
I have to pay for my gpu too, should the gamedevs get a cut of that? Nvidia is "profiting of the backs of these small developers" because being able to play games sells their hardware.
They should be paying these devs obviously and if you buy a new gpu from amd instead it's only fair that you rebuy the game.

The most you could argue is that this is hurting Nvidia or other PC hardware manufacturers more, since people don't need the appropriate hardware to play the game anymore.
If the original devs port their game to a console or fuck knows where, and you still buy it for cheaper on PC, how does this hurt the devs? It can't. It could only hurt, as mentioned, the ones who would sell you PC parts.

Why do you for some reason assume that having it on 3 platforms = 3 times the sales compared to having it on 1? If the market for the game is 500 people, those 500 people are not all gonna buy the game three times on every platform its on. They'll buy the game once on their platform of choice and make 500 sales.

Also, you keep talking about how it will kill "Ports". First, I don't think you understand what the service does: it lets you stream from PC to PC, not from PC to consoles. I don't see how the ability to play a game on my laptop upstairs streaming from my desktop downstairs is somehow ruining Nintendo's bottom line. If I were to drag my laptop upstairs am I also ruining ports?

Second, ports generally exist to get NEW customers, not to sell duplicate copies to old customers. You seem to be saying that if this is available, people won't buy ports, they'll just buy a pc copy and stream it. Why does that matter? A copy is being sold regardless, so who cares what platform it is on?

you already paid for the game. geforce lets you stream a game you already own. they're renting you a virtual machine where you log in with your steam account and play games in your account.

my understanding is nvidia was offering compute power to user, and user had to use their own steam account to log into rented virtual machine to play games licenced to this particular steam account. then some literal who developer has a meltdown and (somehow) makes envideya pull that game from list of supported titles on their service, which led to twitter shitflinging.
is that correct?

I mean, I somehow get the core of the retarded argument since Nvidia is more or less using their game as an advertisement for their streaming service, so they'd probably want a cut on it. Otherwise there's really nothing to be said here, it doesn't really matter for the developer if I buy a game on PC because I want to stream it through another service or just play it normally.

Yes. He implies that he wants to be paid extra for allowing his game to be run on the service, either by nvidia or by customers.

Twitch doesnt have to pay for streaming licenses to every single game dev, how is this any different? Other than streaming on twitch being free obviously

That's pretty much it, they just want their cut on Nvidia's thing. It's kinda like Blizzard thinking Twitch owed them money when they got bought by Amazon.

Yes, pretty accurate summation.

Reminder that these are the morons you are sharing your board with.

This is assuming any reasonable person would pay for it 3 times. I assure you this is not the case.

I think you're being obtuse on purpose.

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Nvidia didn't ask for permission or license to use their product in their platform, not even for advertisement.

yes, he also misunderstood why some publishers don't want their games on geforce now

>makes completely baseless statement shilling for a multibillion company saying how they're the ones getting hurt here
>get proven wrong
>"lol moron"
Not an argument.

Does youtube and twitch have to pay him as well?

I don't know much about Nvidia's streaming service thing. Is it a paid thing? I would assume so. Even if you use your own Steam account, you could argue that Nvidia is using every developer's game as some advertisement for the platform, if you want to play the devil's advocate.
But honestly it's really hard to argue for the developers in this case. It's like you'd REEEEEE at TeamViewer if they offered you a subscription that actually lets you stream shit from your PC in real time.

Congratulations on having the ability to critically think above a 5 year old.

But it's not like Netflix and you are a moron

that seems like a sensible request to me. you want a product? pay for it. you want to use it the way it's not intended? on a different device? pay for it. how hard is that to understand?

GEFORCENOW IS A VIRTUAL PC
YOU DOUBLE NIGGER
VIRTUAL
PC
IT DOESN'T SELL GAMES
YOU CAN'T BUY GAMES ON IT
IT CAN ONLY RUN GAMES YOU OWN
WERE YOU DROPPED ON THE HEAD AS A CHILD

>Other than streaming on twitch being free obviously
You just answered your own question. The moment you start profiting off it you are liable for action.

At most Nvidia would have to buy the game once to actually own it and let others enjoy it via streams.

But guys, he released an unfinished game that required 50 patches and ENTIRE remasters of two episodes. He's not greedy!

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So should he start charging Sony for it's streaming service? And charging Twitch for streaming his game?

no, nvidia want's to make money by fucking devs over. they sell the cards, the make money by giving away compute power and the people who actually made the game don't get anything in return

user, he ignores all the comments that btfo him and then replies to anyone not making an argument

>more than 5 years of early access
Fucking christ what the fuck is the timeline even for the game, is he trying to make a Final Fantasy or something?

The the thing is, you can barely argue that you're profiting off it. You're profiting off giving people access to a streaming service to what is pretty much a virtual machine with the games people already paid for. They can't profit "off" said game unless the user already owns it.

>The moment you start profiting off it you are liable for action.
You do know that twitch runs advertisement and that it gets a cut from anyone that subscribes to a streamer, don't you?

Yeah, not sure why a tedious survival game with runescape graphics needs so many years of work.

>these are the mouthbreathers that inhabit Yea Forums

You literally have to give money to nvidia to use it
Its like buying a whopper and going into mcdonalds to eat it

How do I donate to Nvidia? They're fricking based as fuck for cucking devs

But each person that plays the game on that service buys the dev's game, just like they would have if they bought it on their own computer.

In fact, since now the person doesn't need to have a PC themselves to run it, it's possible to get more sales of the game. Nvidia gets nothing one way or the other if their platform generates a sale for the devs.

Just buy one of their generous and definitely not overpriced bitcoin GPUs that cost a moderate $2400

By a geforce now or whatever the fuck it's called and you can literally steal the food from the mouths of these developers.

Like how you have to give money to Amazon to buy your own computer?

>they sell the cards
i hope you dont mean steam cards user

>ITT:
Hey guys, I'm too dumb to understand streaming so I'll say something completely retarded and wrong, give me (you)s!

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Shut your fucking mouth cuck, and keep swallowing gabes anti-gamer cum

You realize Twitch makes a fuckton of money, right? Its a business, not a charity.

>Food analogy
You also have to play nvidia, amd or intel to play to play the game on your regular pc

it's service description, not advertisement if nvidia limited their service to pre-selected titles.
if anythig, you'd expect that dude to be asked to pay for his game to be supported given nvidias tendency to succumb to hebrew tricks.
do you think i should pay cut to valve if i say in craigslist listing that my old pc i'm selling is capable of running cs:go in 1080p at 60fps ?

So what game are we talking about anyway?

Shitty early access survival garbage.

I don't know, from what I can tell it's some 5 year early access survival dogshit

Namedropping the game during the drama is what the dev wants

If you want to argue semantics, you're giving them money to run games that you already bought for you.
Also I'm really having trouble finding a fitting food analogy for that shit, so I'll do something else. It's more like you bought a music CD and brought it to a friend who sets up a telephone line just for you, which you can use to listen to your music whenever you want. Yes I know there are concerns when it comes to copyright and physical media and shit but nothing is stopping you from playing Steam games on multiple machines at once

here comes /pol/ waggling there small white dicks

Heres a food analogy on your side
>buy pizza from game dev
>take it home
>eat it with nvidia fork and knife in a different room than the pizza dev intended

>we live in a world where fucking Nvidia created a pro-customer oriented service and indie devs are trying to use it to scam customers
What world have I ended up on when fucking Nvidia are the good guys? Also Blizzard, Bethesda and Rockstar are blocking their games from the service too, imagine that this company is doing the same thing as Blizzard, Bethesda and Rockstar.

>You literally have to give money to nvidia to use it
>Its like buying a whopper and going into mcdonalds to eat it
its like buying a whopper, going to mcdonalds to eat it, paying them to eat it there, then burger king goes NOOOO YOU CANT EAT THERE WHERES MY CUT

>>we live in a world where [...] indie devs are trying to use it to scam customers
We've been living in this world since the dawn modern "indie" games

>some literal who dev is demanding a cut of a $4.99 a month streaming service that covers like 99% of Steam's library outside of the BIG JEW companies like Activision and Rockstar
What the fuck kind of money does he want? Does he really think he deserves money over fucking Capcom? Hell, should Capcom give him part of their RE2make and MonHun profits since he's a poor little dev?

My dick might be small, but I'm still white.
BTFO

>order takeout with option to come and pick it up yourself, pay in advance
>pay taxi driver to go pick it up for you
>wtf, you can't do that, pay us deliverly fee

Statistically false. also fuck you, racist.

>and the people who actually made the game don't get anything in return

What do you mean they get nothing? You have to buy the game to stream it. Its streaming from your steam account. This is not netflix where you pay for the service and they give you access to a bunch of stuff. Literally all the service lets you do is play games you already bought and own on a more powerful computer.

Its literally identical to if you bought a game on steam, then went over to a friend's house and logged in on their computer to play it. You're not getting extra copies of the game, you're not getting the game for free, you're accessing something YOU BOUGHT ALREADY from a different computer.

>i could have just run off with all that money people paid for my unfinished early access game, that i used those early funds people paid with the expectation that what they were getting now was not yet the finished product to continue working on my game is just altruism on my part because i'm just that sort of nice person.

>What world have I ended up on when fucking Nvidia are the good guys?
ikr, it's a funny old world.

Do I have to get permission to play a game on a computer after I BUY it from the dev now?

>thinks he has won cuz girls laugh at his small dick
enjoy your virginty loser

Nvidia Now is the equivalent of setting up powerful machines with software restrictions. Taking money for allowing others to connect to and use said machines remotely.

Fuck, man. If i borrowed computer from let's say my friend, to play cyberpunk which i bought on steam, paid him 20$ in return because you know, he invested in his rig so i feel like he deserve some cash for his good will. Then what? Should developers ban me from playing the game or demand from my friend that he have to take his computer back from me? It would be retarded and laughable. Situation is the same, just instead of my friend there is nvidia and instead of computer being carried to my home it is connected to my home pc via internet.

The dev said you also need permission to make a mod for it, permission to mod it, and permission to dislike aspects of the game.

>buy game on steam
>play it via geforce now
>am somehow stealing money from the dev
Fucking retard.

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>it's service description, not advertisement
nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/games/

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Are people attacking Nividia because they assume they're in the wrong based on past jewishness, or are they retarded and don't understand what's actually going on?

Ask for permission for making someone money?

user, the dev could sell you a different copy that only works on geforce now, you're depriving him off this opportunity which is exactly the same as stealing.

Indie cultists are attacking Novidya
Most of the people here seem to agree that the indies are retarded for doing this but obvious you will have some contrarians too

see

Even without looking at this thread, there are always retards out there user. But there are some especially mentally deficient retards in this thread.

Geforce now is the equivalent of taking your game to a friends house and playing on their PC.

They're aware of the specific details and still decide to defend such jewry, so just retards.

dunno, looks like discord raid at that point to be honest.

>Port something
The fuck do you mean? The service is entirely computer based. You're not using it to stream from one console to another. It in no way hampers the market for a port.

>You still pay money, but now you're giving it to the the company that had nothing to do with the game.

You already bought the game from the publisher through steam. The service you're paying for is to use Nvidia's computers to play the game you already own. Its akin to renting a computer and playing a game CD I bought on it.

Your argument here seems to be that I should have to buy new games every time I want to play on a different computer.

says the retard blaming the Jews for his tiny dick

>What differentiates nvidia's streaming service from a console
You can't use it if you haven't bought a game.
>You are exclusively using their hardware to play games on.
It's like you bought a game and then went to some rental store to rent a console. Would you still have to pay the developer an additional fee for this?
>This is actually, literally a console designed to play games from other platforms.
This is more or less a platform that rents you the hardware necessary to play a game you bought.

Please, stop posting for a moment and THINK

It falls into same category as making video content with your game, but there is a major difference. Content creator is making money of your game, but it gives you publicity. Meanwhile Nvidia is making money of your game, but not only you gain nothing, you also loose potential income from porting to mobile. It is obvious why devs would be opposed.

Another thing to consider is that streaming will eventually kill consumer rights, but I guess thats okay.

>What differentiates nvidia's streaming service from a console?
It's running Windows.

It's both

>use steams remote play to play modern games on my shitty 2010 laptop
>get arrested for copyright infringement

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>McDonald's buys some meat to make burgers
>Get FedEx to ship it to them
>Meat salesman: "Reeee, no you must use UPS"

No, this is akin to buying a gaming laptop and playing a game in your steam library that you bought on your gaming PC.

>its like buying a whopper, going to mcdonalds to eat it, and that's not fair to Burger King
sorry, should have clarified my stance to the brainlets that think McDonalds isn't somehow getting free false advertising from someone eating a superior meal in an inferior restaurant

f o o d a n a l o g y

Found out about it last month, everything running 60fps on my toaster without even turning on its fan, Right as i want to shill out the 5 bucks a month program for 60fps ultra Skyrim (Ex PC Gamer turned PS4 after PC died) Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 3 etc they pull those games off the market, a quick LE REDDIT tells me that there even used to be GTA 5 on the service!!!!

Glad i didnt do it, Dissapointed but man, The stories about people having Bought Doom 2016 (and Cyberpunk) in good will while it being gone the next day as they had a day off etc really grinds my gears(of war, Deleted also)

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you are still playing on pc version of storelauncher on windows or windows compatibility layer on a fucking pc. it's noone's buisness if this pc is on your desk, under it, in other room or on another planet.

>you also loose potential income from porting to mobile
At the same time you might argue that being available for mobile play right from the very start might be more appealing for customers, making them more likely to buy your game.
Really, this whole thing boils down to the fact that indies are usually I have no opinion on this particular dev because I don't know shit about him cunts and want all the possible money RIGHT FUCKING NOW because they are God's gift to the people and they deserve everything.

No one is streaming on consoles. They're streaming games they already bought and own on steam from one pc to another pc. Its literally the same as if you had 2 xboxs and played a game you bought on the xbox live store on both of them.

Not a good example since often companies receiving resources have say in how it is transported.

>says the retard blaming the Jews for his tiny dick
You'd be right to, shlomo.
Me though, my parents made the decision not to mutilate my penis as a child, thankfully.

The whole thread is fucking retarded already, so why not go all the way?

what the fuck are you guys talking about?

Ah yes because some literal who indie dev will totally be porting their unity asset game to mobiles.

Anyway, I see no issue with streaming to a mobile, why wait forever for a mobile port of games that may not even get a mobile port when you can just stream it? You're right on streaming eventually killing rights, that's the only argument against these types of things, though still an important one.

>why wait forever for a mobile port of games that may not even get a mobile port when you can just stream it?
But if the poor indie dev decides to port it to mobile, you should definitely buy it a second time, you fucking goy- dear customer.

Nvidia Geforce Now, A stealth released streaming services that lets you play your Steam and Epic Store games on a Tablet/Toaster/Laptop/Phone and it really works, Problem is Nvidia not asking for a "Okay bro" to developers ( while Nvidia makes money off the services) But at the same time the developer is a consoomer unfriendly by not letting people play the game that they paid the developer for

kinda "lolwut?" but it sucks!

>Literally produces GPUs to make the games run, the documentation and libraries to even use the GPUs, and driver support for specific games
>NOOOOO THEYRE GREEDY #EGS4THEDEVS

to bad they didn't abort you since you're a waste of space Cleetus, but hey Darwinism is how we keep you incels from passing off your stupidity

if you dont know what you are talking about then shut the fuck up retard

see

>Free false advertising

The service they offer is to let you play games you own on their computers. They do not claim to own games. They do not claim to make games.

Now, I can understand some Dev might not like video of their game being used in advertising for the service because it was done without their permission. But how is that "False Advertising"? What is the lie? Because the system CAN play that game if you own it.

This isn't the safe space you're used to, newfriend. When it comes to corporate greed, people will always make jew jokes. Get used to it.

Thanks, for a second I thought they were gonna take my vidy games away.

They're the bread & butter of every Yea Forums thread.

>rent a VM
>install game
>dev loses money
>uninstall game
>repeat
brb crashing EA stocks

and devs consider this a BAD thing (or at least some devs do)

>game industry spends years of time and billions of dollars redefining buy a game from owning a copy to owning a licence to access it
>suddenly realize what this mean in the age of high speed internet and streaming after you want to lock them into paying to streaming games they don't own and paying for endless ports
>suddenly want it all changed again but will never go to court because they know exactly what will happen

The only one in the wrong is Nvidia for not telling him to go fuck himself.

No, there's a reason why we have a containment board for losers like you. fuck off

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>buy a game
>rent a Nvidia Rental Gaming Device™ that allows me to play the game I already bought
>this is somehow wrong
OK

The best part is that these devs are also getting free advertisement/exposure and some toaster owners might even buy their game now that they can run it. Again, seems the problem is that people is too dumb to understand these streaming services.

Too bad they don't sell you a copy of a game anymore, they sell you a license to access it.

>The service they offer is to let you play games you own on their computers
They are offering a limited amount of games, just because you own, it does not mean you will be able to play it, let's say you own Avernum or Monster Hunter on Steam, you won't be able to play on GeForce Now, because it's not supported.
nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/games/

>tells other this isn't a safe place when he wants a safe space so no one makes fun of his small dick

Fuck off faggot, if jokes upset you, you might as well try out ResetEra.

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the biggest joke is the one God gave you for a penis
Checkmate /pol/

Wait, I'm not allowed to play games on hardware they don't personally approve of?

You're free to tell me I have a small dick. I can also tell you to kill yourself in return. That's the beauty of Yea Forums, we can just be as offensive to each other as we want without some sort of thought police coming in and crying about it.

underrated

says the same faggot that gets triggered when he sees a pastel pony

Damn, the left is as funny as your average female stand-up comedian.

godspeed you glorious retard

and I'm free to tell you that I'm sick and tired of the same unfunny reguritated garbage said over and over, you are the reason why this board is infected with reddit cancer wojack/pepe reaction images

Ok.

So are they showing games they can't play and have no future plans to make available to play in their advertising?

Because so far everything I've heard isn't "They're not being honest about the capacities of their streaming service" its "They're stealing from devs by allowing you to stream instead of buying another copy". If they are legit just making false claims about what they can stream, then that's shit. But also unrelated to those other claims.

You can also post as many ponies as you like, user. No one will stop you. I might get angry at you, or not, but it doesn't matter. Ultimately, it's up to the mods and jannies to decide if you can post them, or not.

Based

Then I suggest taking this issue to the people who are in charge of this place. Until it's banned, all you're doing is bitching and moaning about every little thing until this place is a sanitized shithole like the rest of the internet.
Also notice how Wojakspam generally gets deleted nowadays. Gee, I wonder why that is.

The reason pony's got a containment board is because they were showing up everywhere and making everything off topic. Its not so much that people hate them, its that they were trying to talk about video games and suddenly some people would come in and start talking about what applejack's urine tastes like.

Man, reddit sure loves to project when they're triggered.

The one triggered here is you, who saw the word jew in an on-topic post and started crying about small dicks, reddit and ponies.

you must be new to Yea Forums
there is no shadowban
you don't get to stop seeing shit that offends your fragile snowflake sensibilities
jannies and mods are up to their armpits deleting all the kiddie porn that tumblrtards like you keep spamming to try to shut Yea Forums down, and so have no time to police the other rules even when you report
and your most retarded posts get the most attention and exposure instead of being hidden to save you embarrassment
that's why every board might as well be /pol/ as far as you are concerned, you have no right to not be offended here

1.If a developer wants to make a heavly modified port for mobile they have to compete with their own product.
2.If you wanted to use compatibility with Geforce Now in your marketing, you would have to know that this streaming service exists and that your game is compatible. If Nvidia uses compatibility with certain game as part of their marketing for service, but at the same times devs of said game don't know that this streaming service exists, this is kind of a bitch move on part of Nvidia.
3.Yes, idie devs are often cunts, but they are only source of good games now, so unless you want to play AssCreed 57 for rest of your life I would advice against supporting anti-indie services.

Indies can be pretty big. So this is not a valid argument.

GOG exists.

>you don't get to stop seeing shit that offends your fragile snowflake sensibilities
You can, you can filter whatever you want but they're too retarded and new to know that.

GOG is still technically just selling you a license.
People don't seem to realize there is absolutely nothing wrong with having a cracked version of a game you own a license for legally speaking.
Also nothing wrong with making it run on a different system or streaming it to another device.

so here are the facts I've discerned from reading about this:
1. the service uses the steam key you paid for to run the game; whether the game is cached on the server or not is irrelevant because you need the key to run the game anyways
2. indies are butthurt that this service cuts into their ability to sell multiple copies to users who want to run the game on other platforms like the switch.

I think NVidia should be able to win this based on the above. The devs don't really deserve an additional cut for being able to stream the game anywhere - you already paid for your PC key which is what's being used to run and render the game. This has been an option for PC gamers already for years with shit like remote play, now there's just a service inbetween.

I also don't see why indies are afraid of this eating into their Switch port sales. No one is going to buy that ugly Nvidia handheld, and nobody uses mobile phones with those controller add-ons anyways. Those segments just can't compete with Nintendo.

The entire thing mostly boils down to it being a dick move, yeah. But I still don't see why you'd need to go out your way and pay them even more money. Their game can't be accessed without customers owning them first. At the worst, Nvidia is renting you a PC you can stream from. Why should this be anyone's concern?

Based

What happened?

Yes, this is what the whole issue basically boils down to. They just want their money RIGHT NOW because someone else is potentially tangentially profiting off them. Doesn't matter if they get more exposure, or possibly more sales from people who'd also want to play their game on the go. If they can't get money out of it, no one should play it. Doesn't matter if a mobile port is planned or not.
Really, all this boils down to is if hardware rental services are the devil, and if (and then, how much) of which profits should go to a developer. Maybe pay them a small fraction of whatever their game is worth for each new customer who plays said game through their rental service, fuck if I know, not that I really think they deserve it.

>Steam would never pull this kind of trick.

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I'm very happy that the greed from developers and publishers won't allow game streaming to be successful.

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>GOG is still technically just selling you a license.
You can still download offline instaler and put it on as many physical storage devices and cloud drives as you want.
If you wanted you could instal a single licence on 1mil PC. GOG works on honor system.

>People don't seem to realize there is absolutely nothing wrong with having a cracked version of a game you own a license for legally speaking.
I do 100% agree.

>Also nothing wrong with making it run on a different system or streaming it to another device.
If you want to use emulator at least be honest about it, istead of paying Nvidia jew for doing it for you.

Nvidia is introducing streaming service for any PC and Android device that uses your already existing library of games from stores like Steam. Any game could pe played like this, but they decided to limit selection to only "compatible" games. Many games were added and used to promote service without devs nothing, some indies and some AAA asked Nvidia to remove their game from service. Some gamers got upset at devs for removing those games for service, but anger was primarly focused on one indie dev rather than any AAA company.

Thanks for agreeing the only one in the wrong in the dev and Nvidia for not telling him to fuck himself.

>communist
How? Just because you disagree with someone doesn't make them a communist.

>Steam adds option to play anything anywhere streamed from your pc onto another device including tablets
This is ok
>Nvidia does the same
This is not ok. They are not Valve. It is only ok when valve does it. They're killing sales by undermining ports and people playing games on multiple PCs. I can't believe they would do this. They should consult the developer first.
>Steam has library sharing that let's you play games you don't even need to buy because one person in your friend group owns it.
>And you can combine this with the above features.
No issues here.

I don;t agree, so you should probably work on your reading comprehension.

normal business practice:
>Hey developer, we have this cool new service, here are the details, can we use your game on our new service?
>sure that sounds great!
or
>no! i'm a dirty jew!

Instead nvidia just did it without asking

>Steam would never pull this kind of trick.
Steamlink is a similar concept.

Steam already paid the devs.
Devs can opt-out of it.

>distribution
I don't think you know what that means, user
Steam is still the licensed distributor -- Nvidia is acting as the exhibitor in this scenario, rather than whoever you bought your PC/parts from. There's an entire century of film industry legal history to look at if you need clarification.

You did though
>People don't seem to realize there is absolutely nothing wrong with having a cracked version of a game you own a license for legally speaking.
>Also nothing wrong with making it run on a different system or streaming it to another device.
>I do 100% agree.

Nothing said past that matters and is just hurt feelings.

Because licenses, Valve can do whatever they want because they have a license that allows them to do that, Nvidia does not have a license.

Steam lets you stream games from your own pc, for free
Nvidia makes you pay to stream games from their own servers. They are making money off of customers and not giving devs anything from it.

Also no, you can't agree with one without the other.
Either you bought a copy of a game, or you bought a license to access it. It's too late to change your mind now.

devs don't deserve extra money in this case, the key is paid for and the hardware in nvidia's

>Thinking you need a license for literally everything
Oh, it's a Brit. That explains why it's retarded.

>Devs can opt-out of it.
You're full of shit, you can't opt out of anything here. I can stream anything I want from my PC through Steam, even non-Steam stuff.

There's no legal difference from using your license to access the game from one computer or another.
Even devs and publishers know this which is why at most they have an active activation limit at one given time now.

devs deserve money any time someone else is making money off of their product.
either way, the key issue here is permission. this is a legal gray area so at this point it should be up to the devs to decide if they want their game on this service. Nvidia just decided to not ask anyone or tell them they were doing this.

Nvidia basically rents you the hardware used for streaming. They are not taking anything away from a developer. You can't stream what you haven't bought yourself.
Really, how does that hurt anyone? It's like Steam streaming your games from a friend's PC.

these are 'people' defending the dev's decision

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>devs deserve money any time someone else is making money off of their product.
People making PC parts owe devs money now?

>go to pc store/cafe
>pay to use/rent a pc
>log in into your steam and download a game to play
Do they need to pay the developers a royalty for allowing you to play the game you already own, but on rented hardware.
What about downloading the game on an Internet connection that isn't yours but you pay to temporarily use, but onto a device that you own? This is the kind of decision making that gives up fucking website link tax laws when spun around enough.

So when I go to a LAN cafe to play some of my games while my PC is in the shop the devs deserve to be paid for that?

If this is the case (although I don't think it is, since devs can disable game sharing), then I do agree that steam is is the wrong, unless devs agreed to streaming before placing their games on the store.

There isn't really a leg to stand on, that's why there is no legal action and only hoping Nvidia will honor their wishes.
If anyone thought they were in the right they'd want to get a settlement from them.

game sharing is different than game streaming. Devs cannot disable you using a steamlink device to stream games

>Buy burger
>eat some in the restaurant
>take the rest home
>eat the rest
>burger police knock on the door

>If this is the case (although I don't think it is, since devs can disable game sharing)
Steam streaming != Family share or whatever they call it.
You already bought the game for a device of your choice. Said device also has to actually run the game. A developer can't, and shouldn't have a say in whether I decide to stream said thing to another device or not. It's none of their fucking business.

we're basically back to square one with "buy another copy of the game if you want to run it on a different computer"

why are people defending this horseshit

You are buying copy of game. Game is designed to work on specific platforms. If there are pirated copies avaible you can get them for free. If there is a community developed emulator you can break platform restrictions.
There is nothing wrong with it, other than taking into consideration that if game is not profitable it is unlikely to get sequels and studio might close.

What I greatly dislike is thiefs and jews getting money from some else work.

Yeah, I hate game devs making money of Nvidia producing pc hardware.

>/pol/
>white
Also
>/pol/

Game devs should really push this issue, I want to see them suddenly realize they have to pay a fee to Microsoft and any hardware manufacturer when they sell a game that runs on their shit.

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should game devs be allowed to say they dont want anyone who owns a laptop to be able to run their game

>Devs cannot disable you using a steamlink device to stream games

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If only they had listened

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There is a difference between symbiotic and parasitic relatioship.

If they want to be retarded with their product its their right.

That doesn't disable anything inherently, it is features you support or have in your game.
It means there is no inbuilt support for the feature.

Yeah, game devs are parasites that need to start paying their fair share to hardware and OS makers.

Faggots are as old as time immemorial
There will always be something to fuck up
A L W A Y S

Nvidia uses Steam, you fucking gabemen

I still have no idea what game this thread is about

Guess they are just waiting for another court stomping.

>devs have to pay an individual "compatibility" license fee to AMD, Nvidia, Intel, Asus, MSI, Corsair, Razer, Logitech and Acer if they want their game to run on any of said hardware/peripherals
Fucking delicious

EXHIBITION IS NOT DISTRIBUTION YOU STUPID NIGGERS
>EXHIBITION IS PLAYING THE GAME
>DISTRIBUTION IS SELLING THE GAME
THEATERS ARE NOT IN COMPETITION WITH PRODUCTION COMPANIES
FUCK

lol he got triggered

The Long Dark

Have you tested if Steam allows you to stream games that have this feature disabled?

Last time I checked theaters pay people that make movies.

user, I can add any non-Steam game through Steam and still stream it. That doesn't do shit.
Also, go work on your game, panstasz

>nvidia buys a bunch of NASA PCs
>allows you to use those PCs if you pay them monthly
>still HAVE TO buy the games on STEAM
>log in to your account on nvidia's PC and play the game
how fucking hard is to understand this? are people literal retards nowadays?

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pretty sure theaters give a cut of ticket sales to production companies duderino

steam allows you to stream your desktop which you can use to launch any game you want including minesweeper

>you are allowed to spin up a vm and play your game on it from your home computer
>BUT YOU CANT LET NVIDIA SPIN UP A VM AND PLAY IT FROM YOUR HOME COMPUTER

it's not distribution you fucking idiot, nvidia isn't selling the games, for fucks sake kill yourself

ok, mutt

Fuck off back to reeetardera

The devs want you to pay as many times as possible

They port it to other platform (mobile), but rather than developing a differnt app, they do it via streaming. If this was just PCs, (and if Nvidia asked rather than trying to be sneaky jews), everyone would be on their side.

>you must be a dev since you agree with them
non-argument

And that's supposed to be the less jewy way of doing things?

reminder Hinterland also banned mods for The Long Dark, don't see why anybody is surprised that they are anti-consumer

>>you must be a dev since you agree with them
That was more or less a joke on the fact that you've posted some dev menu with a polish filename, while there's a relatively prominent polish developer who's from Yea Forums.
Also
>If this was just PCs,
So if I'll write an app that allows me to stream stuff from my PC to my phone, am I the bad guy? Hell, all this is is a slightly better working version of TeamViewer.

>steam inhome streaming is a copyright violation according to Yea Forums
>every time i double click the team viewer icon, a dev goes bankrupt

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>So if I'll write an app that allows me to stream stuff from my PC to my phone, am I the bad guy? Hell, all this is is a slightly better working version of TeamViewer.
I think we can both agree that there is a obvious moral difference between personal use and making money of it.

>Hell, all this is is a slightly better working version of TeamViewer.

that's the new eldorado, there's a shitton of money to be made and devs are gonna get fucked hard if it becomes mainstream

what if you spin up an Azure VM instance and play games while remoted to it

microsoft is getting your money for providing a VM to play a game on

>I think we can both agree that there is a obvious moral difference between personal use and making money of it.
Are TeamViewer subscriptions/licenses immoral? Again, you paying to rent a PC (VM) to play the games that YOU ALREADY OWN. The connection is a cherry on top. Is this morally wrong, too?

>review bombing indie devs from twitter drama
holy based

>if you don't hold the same exact same opinions as me you're a communist
what did the mentally ill, incel mutt mean by this?

you pay for the processor / GPU cycles & the service.
it's like uber but for computers (you don't have a car so you use someone's else)

Im seriously so sick of indie devs, they’re the most entitled arrogant self righteous fucks on twitter, outside of journalists

they are not distributing games moron

How is this going to inflate game prices you retard. You have to buy the game on Steam. It’s just about how you’re choosing to play a game you paid for. If Nvidia decides to act like greasy controlling Jews just go back and play the game on Steam. It’s the same game.

I really struggle to think how this hurts devs in any way. If anything it opens up the market for people with shitty PCs to buy and play games they couldn’t before.

Shit I guess Asus owes a lot of devs money because I've been playing a lot of games on there monitor.