ESO

Does it still have the absolutely fucking retarded animation cancelling combat?

cumbat is too boring

>What's happened?

>"I came out here with three of my Fighters Guild comrades. We heard rumors of dangerous creatures in the cave.
Then we found spiders. Argonians are resistant to poison. That's the only reason I got away."

I tried it a while ago. It's just too fucking casual for me. I can't stand games where I pretty much can't die.

Why is it retarded . It's an action RPG. If anything else it adds depth to it.

>If anything else it adds depth to it.
Sure, animation cancelling CAN potentially add depth to a game, if it's built around that. In ESO, it's a bug for the most part but they decided to run with it since everyone is using it already.
Thing is, simply auto-attacking or blocking during every spell usage isn't very engaging gameplay. Sure, it's mechanically more challenging than pressing 1234 and nothing else but it's very monotonous and boring.

I always see this opinion thrown around. No fuck off, ESO can't reach the level of even the worse TES.
Visuals look washed out as fuck, landscapes look boring and unimpressive.
Animations are stiff and "mmo-like" (low-quality)
The score is uninteresting (no jeremy soule except on the main menu)
Combat is shit but I admit no TES has good combat
Dungeons are straight lines, objective markers everywhere, just like in skyrim.
Killing an npc has no effect, he will respawn 5 minutes later not caring (mmo constraint)
At best it's the same as skyrim, in no way is it better than it.

ESO is a decent Elder Scrolls game if you take the time to enjoy the quests. But my god is it a bad MMO.

for one it is an RPG so skyirm cant compete with it anyway

Orsinium is a great story, the rest is ok.

the problem is that combat dont feel good, its not actually bad mechanically, its just that the animations feel floaty as fuck, they should look to guildwars for that.

also the overland gameplay is too easy to play with friends.
they should probably add a "hardmode", the game is arleady level scaled, if they added a mode wehre you are scaled ot be weaker but gotten better loot, then parties could have the Craglorn expirience throughout the story gameplay and that could be fun as fuck

ESO is literally worse than Arena

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You are retarded and don't know shit. I played through all of ESO content there is to offer including trials, the only story that is well written in the entire game is Orsinium. Some dlc like clockwork City has good lore but it is still written literally worse than Skyrim.
Fuck off, also you don't know shit about lore, I know more ESO lore than ESO cocksuckers and it is mostly bland shit with feeble attempts to appease to lorefags after original ESO lore was panned, and of course Reddit cancer crowd likes it now because they are bootlicker cucks.

Goddamn, who hurt you

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Additionally it is a horrible game, literally the only thing it has going for it is amount of content and setting. There is legitimately a lot of different stuff to do, but all of it is boring shit, and as for setting they are only now reaching a point where it is bearable but it distinctly has Reddit feel to its lore and its attempts to be genuinely esoteric like truth in sequence are laughable and come off as very bad copies of Kirkbride books.

I stopped playing this because it would crash every 2 minutes

Fuck off shill I am tired of the fact that you can spread your bullshit misinformation like that. Tell me which story you liked in ESO, because even the best story in ESO which is Orsinium is riddled with literal Reddit Pickle Rick tier NPCs like the Bosmer girl that helps you out though the most of the quest, same with Razumdar, same with Cadwell. Even existing lore characters like Sotha Sil or Shalidor or Lachesis are lame and feel like Marvel movie characters with retarded quips.

i wish the animations in this game weren't so fucking awful

I'm not gonna tell you shit until you get your meds user.

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I couldn’t get into it because of the weapon switching and animation cancelling. It makes combat look dumb and awkward with my character waving his arms around like a retard.

Don't forget that you can't actually play any character you want, you can't be a spellsword or a real heavy armor destruction battlemage.
In reality there are three classes, dot damage dealer, boring tank and healer, that's it, everything else is just flavor and even then there are specific flavors that are objectively superior to others.

You are not going to say shit because you are a shill and your very fucking soul shrinks at the sight of a true Lore fucking faggot, crpg grognard l, true uncucked specimen.
Run back to your cuckshed at Zenimax and Co.

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It’s an ok MMO but it completely misses the “Elder Scrolls” Mark with tying areas to levels

With the One Tamriel update there are no area levels.

I played a free weekend and wanted to gouge my eyes out how stupid it was. Just a stupid story, with stupid writing and stupid laggy gameplay in a shitty mmo. People running everywhere and stopping you from being immersed.
The basic mmo design is trash and that's what they did. Enemies respawn every 15 seconds. Lines. The quests are fucking stupid. It's not the TES experience.
The game is just made to be a time sink with all these things added that you are acquainted with from previous games.
I guess if you are a mentally retarded skyrimtard and consider yourself a fan of mmos you could probably like this.
Unfortunately just like with the old republic the cinematics are the only thing that's well made and worth looking at.

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so is this your first mmo yeah? congratulations! maybe one day you will realize how shitty eso is compared to other mmos

Explain.
Which MMO is superior and why.

ESO is the only modern MMORPG reminiscent of oldschool ones. It has that sense of free will and you're actually rewarded for grinding random mobs.

Shitty game, not canon. There's not much to discuss about it

Well the praise sithis thing is dumb as well. Also weren't argonians just straight up immune to poison? Before skyrim at least I'm pretty sure they were

They are immune to it.

>Combat is a mess and the animations don't help either
>Plays it too safe, the zone stories are all fucking boring
>Leans too hard on "REMEMBER THIS?", you have people with corprus, ysgramor's axe being broken and having to gather the shards, dragons reappearing when they shouldn't and now going to Skyrim to deal with vampires
>Developers break shit more than they fix, like breaking the stamina regen a few days ago
>Music is absolutely mediocre in a franchise praised for its soundtrack
>Armor looks like fucking bodypaint with 3D bits attached, fuck that WoW shit
>DLC out of the ass, who the fuck wants to pay 15 bucks for literally one/two dungeons when other MMOs add that shit for free?
>lately has been leaning really hard on making every single person of power and/or interest a woman

There's some ok things there like Sotha Sil but its hidden under vast piles of trashy MMO mechanics, extensive timegating and jewish devs more concerned about the in-game store than the game.

My friend told me there's a questline where you can achieve fucking CHIM, which is stupid as fuck. Is this true?

Then why is he supposedly dying?

Problem with ESO is it's basically a TES MMORPG that inherited the worst from Skyrim and MMORPG genre as a whole.

> It has that sense of free will and you're actually rewarded for grinding random mobs.
yeah because everything level scales to you

Playing it right now and the biggest problem is how awful the combat feels, i genuinely can't think of a game with less satisfying combat

>>DLC out of the ass, who the fuck wants to pay 15 bucks for literally one/two dungeons when other MMOs add that shit for free?

I think expansions are absolutely worthwhile, but some of the earlier DLC just added features you'd expect from a TES title. And some that do, in fact, just add a dungeon or two are half-assed cash grabs.

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the classes are absolute ass cancer though

literally any other of the popular mmos is better, including bfa
maybe broaden your horizons and try the other mmos before you come here and shill your new discovery that most of us already tried and found lacking in literally every department
eso combat is the worst of all top 10 mmos - no discussion
eso lore is lazy copycat shit from folklore of different cultures, just like most other mmos, nothing original unless youre a literal zoomer or american
eso is the biggest rip-off of all western mmos close to korean levels, the cash shop is an absolute joke, expansions are horribly overpriced, crafting cant be done without subscription, subscription is also horribly overpriced for a simple game like eso
animations are trash tier, melee flails around like they never used a sword before
abilities are trash tier, every class nearly has the same setup with keeping DOTS up while spamming LA
travel is trash, you either teleport or use a shitty lame ass horse which needs a billion upgrades before its even worthwhile
auction house is the biggest joke ever in the history of mmos and unusable without addons
crafting is trash compared to ff14
all in all most things feel copied, like most dungeons/delves are the same really
gear looks absolutely horrible in most cases
do i need to go on

Not to mention that leveling through grinding and questing seems to be really, really slow and barely gives any rewards, while dungeon spamming is the superior choice as long as you have a heal/tank spec.
But maybe that got changed since the last time I've played, I don't know.

nah random mobs drop trash and give barely any xp, its those chains from the skies events (anchors?) you have to grind over and over if you want to progress even slightly without questing, its mind numbingly boring worse than even most korean mmos

morrowind is so overrated
>that fatigue system
yikes

>crafting is trash compared to ff14
whoa whoa whoa

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>waiting in line to play a soulless game
yep, this is immersion. skyrim is soulless too but at least you don't

I still don't know how FF14 conned players into crafting. All MMORPGs that made it a big part of the game, like Vanguard or Star Wars Galaxies, died because if you REALLY give power to crafters you take it from elsewhere.

>mfw back in SWG everyone was rightfully afraid that crafters and traders had too much power in an economy where EVERYTHING decayed and had to be repaired or replaced

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thanks for confirming you never even tried ff14 before

Im prettty sure its not an RPG.

its not, theres barely any quest where your choice makes any kind of impact

Crafting is (or at least was, back when I was still playing) only really strong at the beginning of tiers. Once people got most of their Savage shit it didn't matter that much anymore. So it's like an extra layer on top of the default gearing system, where more casual people won't give a fuck about it and the more hardcore ones would do it regardless of how hard it is to achieve.

I consider ESO's crafting a step up from WoW but it's unfortunately true, there's a lot more satisfaction crafting your gear all by yourself in FF14 than in ESO

Is the werewolf any good in ESO?

no but vampire can be good in some builds

>level scaling
>in an open world MMORPG
this has gone too far

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I don't want to play a game where everyone else is as special as me, fuck other people, I play games to get away from them.

>Music is absolutely mediocre in a franchise praised for its soundtrack

I don't find the music that bad when i can actually enjoy it, the biggest problem is that every 30 seconds you aggro some fucking skeever or something and it starts playing the overly dramatic and repetitive battle music for the next few minutes. Then by the time that goes away the zone music has `reset` itself and you never get to hear it in full

>not a single argument
>just literal canned replies from a bingo chart

are you sure you cant toggle that off? i dont remember any battle music getting on my nerves

Who wants to play a faggy vampire though

>minimap
>for a corridor

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yeah hes either a legitimate shill or just really motivated to get more players into his first mmo experience, but if he were the latter he could at least give some arguments so i guess its just a shill

your not wrong

nah, it isn't that good, and noone should even consider buying upcoming chapter at full price.
as linear story driven a'rpg lite it's.... almost ok.
as mmo it sucks major balls, dungeons are a fucking joke with always at least one person so overlevelled (s)he effectively solo'es it and you don't even get to see what mechanics are implemented and end up with inefficient retards with not a fucking clue on how to play when you finally get to hard mode versions several houndret hours later.
not to mention the insane level of kikery in their shop. ignoring cosmetic shit, gameplay dlc's (dungeons, races, zones) cost more than their biggest fattest premium currency stack they offer (150 bucks?). a fucking outfit costs like 20 bucks, and you aren't getting those fancy mounts/skins without spending 100's on lootboxes. game itself is b2p, and you aren't getting any crafting done without subscription locked craftbag. and you don't get any transmogging done without crafting done.
not to mention, p2w will come there eventually. they already tested waters with pet that expands inventory space, backlash was minimal and i see people running around with it quite often, so it is certain they'll slowly turn to this direction too.
if you are desperate for mmorpg fix, go with some f2p alternative, cause sure as hell eso isn't any better.

>is more interesting and immersive than Skyrim's main story.
This isnt a significant thing

not sure, i think both werewolves and vamps are cringe bro

Doesn't look like there is. I wouldn't mind it being played in fitting circumstances like dungeon bosses and the end of quests, but when i'm trying to pick flowers and theres been a wolf chasing me for half a mile it's just stupid

have you seen the cutscenes in ESO? skyrim at least has some great scenes, like at the beginning or later in the game that really got you immersed
now compare that with the story of whatever lame expansion released dragons into eso, absolutely laughable

He's lying. Most of Yea Forums took this bait.

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The game isn't nearly as bad as people here make it out to be, the combat is silly, but the only time it's bullshit is when you're soloing group raids or going into multiplayer and facing people who have grinded since day 1 and dealing obscene damage. For the most part, it's actually fun to use if you're putting time into a decent damaging build and utilizing you're classes special ability if it has a healing secondary when active. I played as dragonknight class so I can't speak for other classes.

The only time you need a sub for crafting is if you need to change the aesthetic of the weapon or armor, otherwise you can level it up like any other MMO. Hell, you don't even need the sub for the most part, if you wanted to play an expansion just buy it by itself.

The main story (retrieving your soul from molag bal) is pretty dull and that's the worst I've found from the game but it makes up for it with it's sidequests and secondary storyline. The only reason to do the main story is for the alternative storyline of what happens if you joined the other alliances and even then you can start it up by traveling to any dock and going to the land of the alliance you want.

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dude theres a billion runes, cooking ingredients and whatnot littered around literally everywhere, you cant tell me you didnt run out of bag space unless you paid real money for more

The infinite crafting material bag from the sub is 100% necessary if you want to level crafting skills, you fucking liar

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Why are you replying to yourself , get your meds already .

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you must be legit brain damaged theres no other explanation

ofc he is.
what the fuck you think all those "community managers" do at big studios and where all those overbloated marketing budgets go?
with next expansion preorders enabled shill force is in full swing, you barely saw any eso thread two months ago.

Wait wait, are we still talking blacksmithing or are we talking cooking and runes? If the former than maybe it's because I played it different because as I leveled I remember seeing the resources change and adapt to what I needed and always found stuff but never used more than I found because I only upgraded my gear infrequently and the rest of the stuff was used for writs. Eventually I started selling the excess material.

I just wish you could solo the entire game and dungeons. Playing with a group just ruins the content. Some level 9999 comes buy and slaps everythings shit and you are just along for the ride. I'd rather have to be like 30 levels over levels so I can solo a dungeon or something then get paired with people and just melt through content not even letting people finish speaking before running into the next mob. Its the best on the market with the voice acting and the combat is cool but its still mmo tier.

Playstyle and graphics are ok for a single player game.
But putting five people in a cave creates a mess.

>since Morrowind
Including morrowind, especially Morrowind.
Morrowind is fucking garbage and you kids pretending it's some deep well designed uber RPG from the old days need to stop. Morrowind is in every regard the worst of the mainline Elder Scrolls games.

>MMOshit
>ever good
Nah. Not to mention all the interesting and mysterious stuff about TES lore is now tainted with this shitty interpretation. Fucking translation error.

Why do the character models and especially the armor in ESO look so bad?

Compared to vanilla skyrim, I find werewolf a lot more satisfying in ESO.

I always liked doing the whole solo werewolf thing though. And one fun thing about it in this game is that you can pretty much stay in that form indefinitely, so long as you have enemies to kill.

so you buy lootboxes, duh
can't have nice things in game that sells you cosmetic mtx
no fucking idea why people buy into this meme "if it's cosmetic it's a'ok cause it ain't affecting you".
fuck yea it does, i can't have my raid gear look fancy and shiny because some good goy wouldn't be pressurized into dropping gdp of small country on outfits enough.

that is not a high bar user

>100+ GB
>terrible gameplay
Why would anyone download and play this?

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How do I have fun in ESO? I was t to experience the story Conte t a d explore, but I find the gameplay boring

I've tried multiple times to get into ESO, but it doesn't stick. It tries too hard to be both an MMO and a single player Elder Scrolls game at the same time, and as a result it excels at neither. It's mediocre in both respects.

>Community manager.

Ok user , fuck the xanax , get your paranoia meds because right now you're going full schitzo

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nice, straight to personal attack.
you forgot to ridicule my dick and call me incel.

Hahah sounds like people need to get good

>> Feels good being an mmo chad.

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I'm not going to argue that isn't clearly autistic, but you are 100% either shilling or just pure shitposting

But you are being a complete fucking angry idiot , how the fuck am I gonna sit down and argue with you when you are acting like a literal teenage edgelord.

I am.