Why western devs think that agenda pushing is more important than fun or even their own profits...

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So you think that the left wanting white genocide is OK, but criticizing their sick agenda is mentally ill?

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>JUST KNEEL DOWN BEFORE YOUR TRANNY MASTERS, SUCK DOWN THEIR SHRIVELED DICKS AND HATE YOUR OWN RACE
kys tranny

cuck

I think these delusions are a sign of mental illness.
Difficult to tell from this post alone but based on pattern recognition I'm going to go ahead and guess you're mentally ill.

I don't care anymore, I don't want to play it, I don't want to hear it, I don't want to see it. Too political

>Same thread, same replies, same buzzwords, same reaction images

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>Fun is political

You know what, I hope they make it political. I hope you come across a Bernie 2020 sign in an abandoned backyard and someone says "to think, all this could have been avoided if people had only had access to affordable healthcare".

We have the same thread every day for months now, people getting angry at completely wanton bullshit projected political agenda of their own, absolutely ignoring what the article or even the headline states, just so that you sick fucks have something to be offended and feel victimized by.

You ARE THE SJW's. You are the most whinny, identity-war obsessed, obnoxious self-righteous, self-victimizing cunts that make RestEra look like a bunch of positively enlightened centrists.

Literally people who don't play games feel offended by a game because it does not EXPLICITLY STATE AGREEMENT WITH THEIR POLITICAL BELIEFS, even though the game absolutely does not actually state any political agenda what-so-ever.

And the fucking saddest part of this:
There IS a massive, and incredibly dangerous ideological push happening across the entire western society, spearheaded by Marxism-dominated social academia and political activists. It's basically everywhere EXCEPT WHERE PRETEND IT IS.

This is beyond pathetic. This is genuinely worse than the pro-conflict theory activists on the left: which literally make you worst trash than the worst trash concievable.

>And the fucking saddest part of this:
>There IS a massive, and incredibly dangerous ideological push happening across the entire western society, spearheaded by Marxism-dominated social academia and political activists. It's basically everywhere EXCEPT WHERE PRETEND IT IS.
lol congrats you're mentally ill and you're still saner than all these fags

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>lol congrats you're mentally ill and you're still saner than all these fags
Conflict theories are, provably and objectively, the most influential school of social theory across pretty much all social studies, humanities and art. There is nothing mental about it, that is a simple fact that anyone who actually does participate in those academic fields will see as absolutely unproblematic fact of the matter.
Critical philosophy has completely changed (and continue to change) the very fabric of our society, including core elements of gender roles and family, world-system theory is at the root of most non-profit global relief organization in the world, Foucault is literally THE most cited philsopher / sociologist of the whole century, feminism is routinely used in common discourse as a term of virtue.

This shit is happening. The only place where none of this shit has any role is in the pretentious article by pretentious developer of a pretentous game that most people utterly misunderstood in the first place.

Kys /pol/turd discord shill

Thank you for proving my fucking point. You are LITERALLY the problem. You will rather accusse people who are actually on your side of being your enemy than to EVER actually show any capacity for self-reflection or self-awareness.

You had me until the second half chief. If you think there is a problem with everyone getting healthcare and poor people not dying in the streets you're either retarded or a rich person yourself trying to maintain the hierarchy that keeps you in power.

"No we say trash instead."

But it's a dangerous ideological push from the Marxist professors!

Bobby Kotick said the same thing about wanting to take all the fun out of game development. So glad I don’t have to be part of any AAA studio to be a developer

You never were on "my" side to begin with, you pseudocentrist moron. Go take that defeatist attitude and fuck right off back to the neolib camp where you belong.

Ah yes, like the ones from the Frankfurt school that... didn't fucking exist.

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>he thinks wikipedia is a good and reliable source

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Purity tests! Circular firing squads! Literally an SJW lol

You say that until we are proven right

He ain't wrong though.
youtube.com/watch?v=qlrpSpwxgWw
Here's a good video on the subject.

Yes, same as how I'll say the hobo on the street corner who claims to be Jesus is mentally ill until he walks on water and resurrects the dead.

You still believe in choosing sides?

>three arrows
Kek, because commies and their antifa grunts are famed for being honest about their cancerous ideology. Truly.

I've always found commies to be honest and straightforward. It's the fascists who pathologically lie.

Well, yes, actually. Unlike Republican's and alt-righters who have to make up euphemisms for what their true goals are, left wing people literally just come out and say that Capitalism fucking blows and they want to give everyone free healthcare.

Oh shit, I forgot! Here, now the thread is perfect

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>If you think there is a problem with everyone getting healthcare and poor people not dying in the streets
And here we go with more absolute delusions and projecting from you fucks. Can you please quote to me where I said anything about healthcare? You do realize that conflict theories and social security are not the same things, right?
It's amazing the kind of shit you have to invent and then stuff into other people's mouths just to avoid having to fucking once again, do even most basic self-reflection.

>Go take that defeatist attitude and fuck right off back to the neolib camp where you belong.
Telling people to actually fucking focus on REAL fucking problems instead of literally inventing fake ones, and not repeating the same exact mistakes those you pretend to criticize is "defeatism" now? Amazing. Just amazing.

I don't like "chosing sides", but sometimes there is a situation where you are forced to join one, albeit if temporarily, simply because another group has actively decided to polarize the society.
My side is anti-conflict theory. Mostly because as long as conflict theories will be dominant in our society, dividing the society into antagonistic sides is going to be inevitable. So my side is the one fighting for future where we won't have to chose sides anymore.

Remember that kid in elementary no one liked and would always tattle on you and your friends? Remember how she/he only had his crew of like 2 or 3 friends and no one liked them either? That kid buried themselves in vidya and made their goal to become a developer.
That kid went to a Western college and was inundated with "it's not your fault, it's [X]'s fault", Marxist propaganda. That kid got a job at a prominent studio and now malfests the platform with Marxist propaganda, because being part of *that* crowd is the only semblance of acknowledgment they ever got.
That's how we ended up with current year video games.

>Telling people to actually fucking focus on REAL fucking problems instead of literally inventing fake ones
Ironic coming from someone who thinks there is a
>"massive, and incredibly dangerous ideological push happening across the entire western society, spearheaded by Marxism-dominated social academia"
Which itself is literally a non-existent problem and straight up isn't real.

I guess videogames are art afterall. Pretentious.

>You still believe in choosing sides?
Oh yeah, and even more importantly, I believe tha people have no right to be idiots. Idiots are dangerous. It does not matter which side they identify with: Stupidity, self-delusion, dishonesty and insecurity will make people act like retards and cause harm. That is "my" side that I chose.

>Which itself is literally a non-existent problem and straight up isn't real.
Answer me this honestly: Have you ever, ever participated in academic fields of social studies or humanities?
I love how you declare this does not exist. How much education about social theory and philosophy of 20th century have you actually studied. I mean STUDIED, not shit you picked up on the internet?

he's right tho, the antisjw community has been nothing but seething kneejerk autistic babies since 2014. Glad I jumped out when I did

There aren't shadowy organizations that are looking to push "Marxism", because if they were, they sure are doing a fucking shit job of it because we still exist under capitalism, transgender people still have it rough and there are people that still vote Republican.

Retards will buy just about any AAA title for muh graphics and muh budget so those devs don't have to worry about making a good video game.

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>he is bluepilled beta basedboy libc.uck.

If Marxist were running big companies, there would be no big companies.

Lefties hide tons of spiteful bullshit behind progressive buzzwords. 99% of feminism is taking things away from men simply because they enjoy them, and at least half of it is attacking nerdy foreveralones because they just want to watch anime instead of becoming paypigs.
Tons of troll groups use progressive talking points to remove content and products from websites and marketplaces, simply to fuck with groups they don't like.
Polarized politics are cancer and social media enables it.

>Actual leftist telling you the things leftists actually believe instead of whatever you think they believe
>"It's amazing the kind of shit you have to invent and then stuff into other people's mouths just to avoid having to fucking once again, do even most basic self-reflection."
lmao can't make this shit up

Nobody is as quick and eager to suck up to the big corporations than the left

It's actually far more likely that that kid never made anything of his life and became an embittered shitposter obsessed with "cultural Marxism"

Yeah, really, this guy has a point.
This guy has a point too.
>99% of feminism is taking things away from men simply because they enjoy them
I'm a feminist and part of feminism is that men have a role in society too. Feminism doesn't exist just to antagonize men.
>and at least half of it is attacking nerdy foreveralones because they just want to watch anime instead of becoming paypigs.
This is literally something you have made up entirely on your own. A feminist strawman that doesn't exist so you can knock it down.
This hahaha
I'm honestly glad to see people on Yea Forums actually being rational, unlike this tard.

>Why western devs think that agenda pushing is more important than fun
Because they don't care about video games. Once movies ceased to be the driving cultural force, video games had to be subverted and pozzed into becoming filth.

This. Talk about the dirty deeds of Google and you'll find all the libshits jumping at the opportunity to call you a conspiracy theorist and a nazi.
Even worse is they're techlets that don't understand the implications of companies like Google managing shit like DNS.

The Jews?

IKR. I hate TLOU and neil cuckman but lets just let this mediocre series fade away with time and pay it no mind. Im not gonna lie though these threads help me feel not alone. All the normie consumer fags at my work wanna get this boring game.

What you think of as "the left" are centre-right neolibs and all they ever learnt from Marx is how to better exploit the proletariat.

user are you schizophrenic or just shitposting?

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>I'm not like other [insert group here]
This is the only argument you ever see besides jumping right to insults. Even if you're not full of shit you're a minority within your own circles.

Are you a corporate dick sucking leftist or just blind?

This guy has a point. The establishment "Left" is all for blowing the dicks of gigantic corporations. The far Left that these guys are supposedly afraid of, the "Marxists" fucking hate corporations.

This was Bungie the other day

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You draw more outrageous narratives than the people you claim to hate

Because as soon as you meet someone who doesn't fit your strawman, your strawman literally can not be true. I'm not a "minority within my own circles" because of all the feminists I have talked to, they all agree with me. If you actually read some feminist theory, you'd see that it doesn't exist to antagonize men and you're just being retarded.
This guy has a point.

Lefties aren't that technical. Most of them are wannabe commies that think communism is just free shit and haven't even read about the Soviet purges. You give them too much credit by placing them in a highly specific political alignment. They're just selfish and ignorant.

How does TLoU make Yea Forums seethe so much?

And the capitalists who horde wealth constantly aren't selfish?

I dislike The Last of Us because it's just Resident Evil 4 but worse.
>Zombies
>Has girl companion that follows you around
>Third Person Shooter
>Inventory System, I guess?
>Both have dumb instant kills
but the similarities end there because TLOU does shit way worse:
>Companion intangible
>TONS OF WALK AND TALK
>Super long fucking cutscenes
>Super shitty combat because of random lmao aimsway
>dumb skill/progression system
>dumb crafting
>OH MY GOD FUCK WALK AND TALK

>They're just selfish and ignorant.
Classic projection. Anyone who isn't a leftist is selfish and ignorant.

I didn't say you don't exist, I said you're the minority. Anyone can prove that fact by spending 5 minutes on twitter. Your voice has been drowned out by the extremists and I guarantee most of them shit on you for not picking up the pitchforks with them.

People throw the term marxist around way too much these days and I don't think most really know what it means. These developers push a divisive SJW agenda. Everything Marx was against. For him all these retarded mentalities would end up fixing themselves alone, so they wouldn't even happen in the first place. These are totally neolibtard moves.

Yea Forums hates popular games
Yea Forums hates movie games
The lesbo scene is /pol/bait

The person who makes the claim has to provide evidence. Spend 5 minutes on Twitter and find me some evidence that a majority of feminists literally only exist to antagonize men. You can't.

Didn't say that. And if you follow the chain of replies I was talking about polarized politics in general. I hate crony capitalists and christfag RINOs just as much as the champagne socialists and the SJWs.

>Yea Forums hates movie games
Yea Forums loves games like Fire Emblem Three Houses though. "Movie game" is just a worthless buzzword.

user you're being called a schizo because middlegrounders are the silent majority. Do you honestly think a bunch of screeching dyed hair trannies and balding effeminate men are the majority of society? Walk outside man. Outside the internet most extremism is just noise.

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>These developers push a divisive SJW agenda.
Ah, yes. Inclusiveness is divisive. Solidarity is conflict. Ignorance is strength. Freedom is slavery.

Actually you never provided proof of your claims to begin with. Are you going to tell me feminsts didn't have anything to do with Sony's retarded policy changes, even though Sony themselves accredited it directly to #metoo?
You're not arguing in good faith, you're trolling and playing innocent. You're proving me right and you don't even realize it.

VNs=/= scripted cinematic integrated into gameplay
I agree that it's a buzzword though. Uncharted pulls it off well

I was talking about feminists, not every human on earth. You're either too dumb to follow the conversation or you're trying to put words in my mouth.

Provide proof that Sony accredited their "changes"(whatever those are) directly to #metoo.

Also, you're working on the assumption that #MeToo is a group of "radical feminists" that want to take away videogame tiddies from gamers and not just a movement of women who are making the reasonable request to stop being sexually harassed in the workplace.
You also still didn't provide evidence that a majority of feminists only exist to antagonize men despite it supposedly only taking 5 minutes on Twitter to find.

Normal sane people believe that art is just meant to be enjoyed in and of itself, or "art is useless" as the saying goes.
But leftists think that something only qualifies as art when it's being used as a tool to promote leftism, so not only is art a political tool, but not being a political tool disqualifies something as art, as leftists equate it to "porn that merely appeals to base instincts".
This is why leftists always make leftist propaganda, or attempt to do so, and why their intention to make leftist propaganda overrides every other goal. Leftists think themselves sophisticated and superior to the working class, and so making "porn" (i.e. apolitical art) is something they consider beneath them and they only do so when forced.

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Movies and books can be more than just "fun", I don't see the problem here or how this automatically means agenda pushing.

It takes a special kind of narcissism to conclude that #MeToo was about antagonising men.

Consider the following: all of that is fucking retarded and you should maybe try reading the article before spouting your ignorant opinion, if you're going to read one thing in your miserable life.

If you can print money you don't need to worry about your profits do you?

>t. butthurt leftist with no argument

I'm not running in circles to argue with you anymore, you're playing the ignorance card on common topics of discussion and putting words in my mouth. You aren't fooling anyone.

>"That" kid discovers Tumblr
>Gets indocrinated with bullshit so insane you couldn't have made it up even if you wanted to
>Eventually he grows out of his Tumblr phase and move onto real life
>His ambitions are heavily encouraged by similar people he met online
>A decade later the entire entertainment industry is fully subverted and at his complete mercy

>A person discovers nu-Yea Forums
>Tries to do literally anything
>"Not ur prsnl army fgt xD"
>"Dude like who cares lmao why do you even care go focus on REAL problems instead."
>"Like oh my gawd can't you see you're LITERALLY just as bad as [other side]???"
This is why if you want to have a healthy community, the first thing you do is implement fucking Stalin/Hitler-tier purity gatekeeping and make cancer like and swallow the leadpill the moment it tries to rise its ugly head.

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This wouldn't happen if people were better consumers. Developers today are testing people levels of tolerance for bs. Solution? Don't play this.

"#MeToo" served the cultural-marxist purpose of sowing division between men and women. The proletariat are easier to manipulate to your own purposes when they are individuals without any connection to their fellows, after all.

If anyone should know when you're completely misrepresenting leftists, it's a leftist, right?

I'm noticing some discrepancies between the scenario outlined in your post and the historical progression of Yea Forums, i.e., the entire thing.

>"#MeToo" served the cultural-marxist purpose of sowing division between men and women.
Which rampant sexual abuse didn't, of course.
>The proletariat are easier to manipulate to your own purposes when they are individuals without any connection to their fellows, after all.
This is the dumbest fucking completely backwards anti-Marxist take I've ever read. Ever heard of solidarity? Class consciousness? Fuck.

No, I'm not. I don't know what you know, so, I am simply asking questions and questioning your beliefs. If you find these questions difficult to answer, that's on you for not being informed enough or understanding your own beliefs to form coherent arguments.
>I'm not running in circles to argue with you anymore
Good, because you're shit at arguing.
This is my last post.
This guy makes a good point. If you really want a big powerful shadowy organization to rally against, why not go after a real one like the Capitalists that are ACTUALLY in power and not the fake "Cultural Marxists" that don't exist? Idiots, man.

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Show me a single leftist saying that art is apolitical.

>rampant sexual abuse
"I sucked that man's dick twenty years ago for a promotion! Rape! Rape!"
>Class consciousness
More Marxist nonsense based on a faulty interpetration of humanity. Blood-bonds based on family and race will always be stronger than "that nigger works in a factory like me, so we must be just the same!"

>Why western devs think that agenda pushing is more important than fun or even their own profits?
They are religious fanatics.

>Why western devs think that agenda pushing is more important than fun or even their own profits?
They're the modern equivalent of religious fuckheads

Art is political. That's not the same as saying "art isn't necessarily political but it should be otherwise it's not REAL art but merely pornography". Art is political. Full stop.

>Blood-bonds based on family and race will always be stronger than "that nigger works in a factory like me, so we must be just the same!"
Unless capitalism dissolves those bonds, of course!

>There aren't shadowy organizations that are looking to push "Marxism",
They are not shadowy, they are entirely fucking out in the open, you moron. They publicly and proudly boast their program on literally every single social studies course description possible. This is the part you are missing: They have been normalized - they are now not only one off, but in fact the most influential form of publicly accepted social theories. And they are doing remarkably well considering that as of now, only less than 5% of all students of social studies in the US identify differently than liberal, PC speak has been embraced into state infrastructure, diversity consultants are a regular and fairly well paid jobs all over the fucking entertainment industry etc...
The fact that they settled from being violently revolutionary to slowly taking over academia and through it, most of medial discourse, the fact that they settle on slowly dissolving family through self-declared "women-right movements" rather than violently enforcing total state-control of child-rearing, and the fact that they haven't yet taken over the whole country, only very important part of it's infrastructure does not mean they are not there.

Funny how you did not answer my questions. Do you not know who Adorno, Horkenheimer, Marcuse are? Did you never read a Foucaultian philosophy book? Have you never heard of Althusserl? Did you never actually read Simon de Beauvoir's Second Sex, any work by Judith Buttler, Carol Hanish, Suzan Oakfield?
Did you not know that when an american sociologist Popenoe wrote his influential "Decline of American Family", the single most influential (in fact far more influential than Popenoe's work itself) response to him was an article by Judith Stacey, titled "Good Riddance to Family: A response to D. Popenoe".
"Good Riddance to Family" is LITERAL QUOTE FROM COMMUNIST MANIFESTO.

That is how fucking in your face they are. It's no conspiracy, it's just happening.

>Blood-bonds based on family and race will always be stronger
But this is literally retarded though. Clearly "blood bonds" aren't that fucking strong because parents abandon their children all the fucking time and Black people kill other black people all the time and I dunno-- people of other races can be FUCKING FRIENDS??? or fuck it, even be in romantic relationships with each other??
Then what, asshole? If a black person and a white person get together and get married and have a child, their child is now both their same family and race-- what about multiracial people? Like
God dammit, you fucking racists are impossible.

Capitalism and Marxism are two sides of the same coin. Both are equally destructive to mankind in different ways.

I said that was my last post, so I'm gonna let someone else field this one. Bye.

>And they are doing remarkably well considering that as of now, only less than 5% of all students of social studies in the US identify differently than liberal
lmao, so that 5% is Marxists?

>Art is political. Full stop.
What are the politics of Pac Man?
Is it OK for art to promote other politics than leftism or is that hate speech?
Would you please become a tranny and speedrun life?

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>"Good Riddance to Family" is LITERAL QUOTE FROM COMMUNIST MANIFESTO.
>Abolition of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists.
>On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form, this family exists only among the bourgeoisie. But this state of things finds its complement in the practical absence of the family among the proletarians, and in public prostitution.
>The bourgeois family will vanish as a matter of course when its complement vanishes, and both will vanish with the vanishing of capital.
>Do you charge us with wanting to stop the exploitation of children by their parents? To this crime we plead guilty.
>But, you say, we destroy the most hallowed of relations, when we replace home education by social.
>And your education! Is not that also social, and determined by the social conditions under which you educate, by the intervention direct or indirect, of society, by means of schools, &c.? The Communists have not invented the intervention of society in education; they do but seek to alter the character of that intervention, and to rescue education from the influence of the ruling class.
>The bourgeois clap-trap about the family and education, about the hallowed co-relation of parents and child, becomes all the more disgusting, the more, by the action of Modern Industry, all the family ties among the proletarians are torn asunder, and their children transformed into simple articles of commerce and instruments of labour.

Of course people of other races can be friends. But being friends does not equate to flooding western nations with the dregs of the third world. Just because there can be inter-racial conflicts does not mean race is a non-factor. Just as families have internal disagreements and quarrels, so can the large ethnic family groups. Race-mixed children are neither one parent's race or the other's. Unfourtanetly they are victims of the society which instilled their parents with an un-natural attraction to one another.

Race is a spook

Kill yourself, brainwashed scum. Race-mixed people are an aberration that wouldn’t exist, if it weren’t for mentally ill bastards like you.

You're the one who attaches great significance to artificial categories, and I'm the brainwashed one? Indeed, race-mixed people wouldn't exist, if the aberration of "race" hadn't been called into existence in the first place.

Okay, so now you're just a straight up nazi now. Like, you can't even plausibly deny it.

>horsefuckers went into a full-blown purity spiral mode in 2012
>brought back a fan-favourite character after she had been censored for 'ableism'
>drove the new writing team off Twitter several times
>are now on the verge of making their own show
>meanwhile Yea Forums is having yet another designated whining thread #3142526 where le enlightened centrists tell people to shut up and mindlessly consume product because actually doing something is a big no-no and makes you just as bad as those ebul SJWs
Really makes you go hmm, doesn't it?

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>Is it OK for art to promote other politics than leftism or is that hate speech?
I find people saying things I disagree with to be disagreeable regardless of the medium

>look mom I called him that cool sounding word I heard from CNN haha epic!

ITT mad Switch fags that Nintendo cant make high profile games anymore after every 2019 switch release was garbage

>I said that was my last post, so I'm gonna let someone else field this one. Bye.
At least admit that you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Have at least enough dignity for that, you cowardly cunt. And for fuck sake, don't ever try to discuss this subject in public ever again. It's an example of MINDBOGGLING arrogance that you did it once.

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Another swing and another miss for the butthurt leftist.

Race, or ethnicity, is very much observable and the opposite of artificiality.. Both in the genetic makeup of different human groups, but most tellingly in the visual differences. Skin-tone, skull shape, skeletal structure, muscles etc. are all tells of the genetic differences between the races of man. The marxist idea of grouping people based on socio-economic circumstances is the artificial one.

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If Miyazaki said this everybody would be fine.
They just get angry when white people say it, the racists.

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The idea that someone on the other side of the world has anything to do with you because you have the same skin colour or skull shape is entirely artificial. This is not how people actually conceived of blood bonds or family back when those things were relevant. It's an invention. As for grouping people based on socio-economic circumstances, the material conditions are far more directly relevant for determining your socio-economic circumstances than "race". And that's not even getting into how the dividing lines between races have been rather arbitrarily drawn.

What about the incel skull with the receeding chin

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They already have money, so that gives them the courage to be dipshits.
Eventually, like all has-beens, the company will go under and the devs will all go get hired by someone less retarded

Cus they want to make movies not video games

>Why western devs think that agenda pushing is more important than fun or even their own profits?
It's religion. They put their religion first, like all religious zealots. They'd die (and kill) for their religion.

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Welfare and free stuff for everybody are quite literally societal dysgenics. It promotes and selects for the most weak limp useless leaching lifestyle possible because why bother working hard to get anything when it'll just be taken from you and redistributed to people who never lifted a finger in their lives.

And it's how we got here in the first place.

>I don't care anymore, I don't want to play it, I don't want to hear it, I don't want to see it. Too political
uhm, no sweetie.

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You marxists subscribe to the idea that all humans are born as blank sheets, to be filled and molded by whoever is in charge at the time. Call family and blood relations an invention all you want, they are still very relevant to pratically all of humanity, and necessary for a functioning society. Every regime based in marxist theory have demonstrated that the destruction of the family unit and dissilution of racial consciousness has had catastrophic consequenses and resulted in the death of millions of innocents.

>They'd die (and kill) for their religion.
If you actually believe this you're as insane as you believe them to be.

Actually I think you'll find that failing crops and CIA interference have very little to do with any of those things.

keep arguing with mentally deranged 16 y/os. That'll help

>t-the holodomor was a CIA capitalist pig-dog conspiracy!
You commies are incredible. Have fun being the first among the burgoise to be lined up agains the wall, you useful idiot.

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/mlp/ has unironically been one of the best Yea Forums boards I ever spent time on. You’ve still got the requisite Yea Forums hate and shitposting but there’s also a lot of nice, intelligent, creative people who actually do things and make things and have fun.

Yea Forums is the most worthless, miserable pile of self-hating dogbarf I’ve ever had the misfortune of stepping in.

If you think the "dissolution of racial consciousness" will do anything to prevent the deaths of innocents may I point you towards the Nazi regime, you useless idiot.

Nazism was a doctrine of racial supremacy, not one of universal racial consciousness. Try again.

Marxism is a doctrine of equality, not of killing people.

Have there ever been marxist states?

Neither is National Socialism. And for being a "doctrine of equality" it sure has an impressive kill-count.

Some form Marxism-Leninism, sure, but you must keep in mind they were all experimental attempts at achieving communism and not necessarily the be all, end all of Marxism.
>Neither is National Socialism.
lol here come the Nazi apologists
>I-if the Jews had just peacefully relocated we wouldn't have gassed them!
>And for being a "doctrine of equality" it sure has an impressive kill-count.
Yeah, well, can't make an omelette and all that. Whatever point you're trying to make it had absolutely nothing to do with the dissolution of "racial consciousness" suddenly making people want to kill each other.

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Marxism is a 'return to nature' philosophy of a nature that has never existed. It's inherently broken and can never work as described.

>discussion
Surely they'd have appreciated someone pointing out the historical inaccuracies.

Nonsense, Marxism looks to the future, not the past. You've never even read the Manifesto.

>can't make an omelette and all that
lol here come the Soviet apologists
>nothing to do with the dissolution of "racial consciousness" suddenly making people want to kill each other
I never claimed that people suddenly become rabid killers without racial consciousness. The powers that be used this as a weapon to render the population docile and indifferent to injustices commited against their kin, because if they don't see them as an extended family they won't react at all. It's weaponised apathy, plain and simple.

If none of the numerous attempts at marxism are actually marxism, what are you advocating for?

“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” -George Orwell

>The powers that be used this as a weapon to render the population docile and indifferent to injustices commited against their kin, because if they don't see them as an extended family they won't react at all. It's weaponised apathy, plain and simple.
Bullshit, it's the exact opposite. The powers that be use constructs like race and gender to pit people against each other and prevent them from rising as one for their own class interests. Tell me if the working white man is not indifferent towards the injustices committed against poor blacks. It is only by recognising their common humanity that they can stand a chance against the ruling class.

>cultists kill and die for their beliefs
>you must be insane to think that
Moron.

If none of my numerous attempts at explaining Marxism are actually read, what am I trying for?
Noted socialist and actual antifa super soldier George Orwell critiquing Stalinist reaction from the left.

That's circular reasoning, friendo. It falls apart when you realise precisely none of these people will actually kill, let alone die, for video games.

The leftist hate for the white race goes over their own want to live, they’re completely insane.

Counterpoint: you're actually the one that's completely insane because you're terrified of things that are not real.

We are almost in agreement, excluding the fact that I see race and blood as the unifying element, while you seem to think it's socio-economics and "class."

If you're talking about Doctor Who shitting all over itself and wrecking it's entire 50+ year run the other night, then taxpayers. If you're taking game developers, I can only assume they still make just enough to justify their existence. That, or tax bailouts.

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Whatever he was refering to in the quote does not make it any less relevant now. There is a concentrated effort to destroy culture, race and heritage, major factors which make marxist dominion over the world impossible.

It's been like this on repeat non-stop since 2016.

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Simple. TLOU isn't a video game but a movie

Race stops mattering when everyone stops paying attention to it, but your material conditions will determine your class whether you're conscious of it or not.
>There is a concentrated effort to destroy culture, race and heritage, major factors which make marxist dominion over the world impossible.
This is anti-Marxist slander with no basis in Marxism.

People will only stop paying attention to race once it ceases to be a factor. Different ethnic groups have different, heritable qualities which have evolved over hundreds of thousands of years of geographic and genetic seperation. Mankind is beholden to the same natural laws which govern all other creatures on this planet. To assume otherwise is hubris of the highest degree.

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So is the whole discussion on whites oppressing other races and non-binary genders in line with marxist ideals or is it only liberalism? Isn't it leftist thought? Idk

>People will only stop paying attention to race once it ceases to be a factor.
Bollocks. It's already a non-factor for almost all intents and purposes in society today. When you see someone on the street you don't judge them by "heritable qualities" that may or may not be identifiable to a slight extent in some DNA test.

>/mlp/
>good
Confirmed for not knowing what the hell you are talking about. The bronies were built off degeneracy and it remains at their core even if individual ones may seem normal.

It is a "non-factor" because the media as led a relentless campaign to turn people away from their healthy and natural preference for their own in-group. The ones most targeted by this in the west are whites, or ethnic europeans specifically. Of course other races who've come to the western worlds are subject to it to some degree, but the attempted destruction of the european peoples is the most blatant.

"Whites" are not your "natural in-group" you twat. That identity was constructed in the age of colonialism.

Class is subordinate to race, but race is an important factor of class.
Class consciousness is the goal but racial consciousness must be respected in pursuit of that goal, because it cannot be overcome. You don't get anything out of forced integration except disharmony and without forced integration you find races will naturally self segregate. It's simply how humans are wired to identify themselves.

I'm only white when a colored is shot for being a violent low IQ darkie.

It is your description which is unclear. First you defend attempts at marxism in posts like by dismissing their failures as external factors. Then after it's pointed out that their failures were deliberate and intrinsic, you pivot to and say that real marxism is ethereal and has no empirical basis for criticism.
So which is it? Are these states marxist, or not? Did they fail because they were adhered to a flawed ideology, or were they a part of the ideology you're trying to defend?

You're partially correct. My in-group happens to be the scandinavian one. Did it cross your mind that the european peoples needed a term to describe themselves in juxtaposition to the other races of humans? Using their skin colour just seemed the most obvious choice, but that does not mean that skin-tone is the only difference.

This should read "race is subordinate to class", of course.

>after it's pointed out that their failures were deliberate and intrinsic
What? Where?
>you pivot to (You) and say that real marxism is ethereal and has no empirical basis for criticism.
Who? When?

It's amazing that you're actually linking to these posts and yet I am still convinced you didn't read a word of them.
>So which is it? Are these states marxist, or not?
As I clearly and unambiguously stated, yes.
>Did they fail because they were adhered to a flawed ideology
No.
>or were they a part of the ideology you're trying to defend?
I will not necessarily defend their implementation.

>Everyone else has to provide proof but my word is good
Lol every SJW argument ever.

European peoples didn't "need" a term to describe themselves, as a group, in juxtaposition to another group. They created the groups first. And let me tell you, they had absolutely no idea about any of the "heritable traits" and whatever else you're using as a justification for racism here when they did so.

>As I clearly and unambiguously stated, yes.
>No
If the Soviet Union was a faithful application of Marxist doctrine, that means that doctrine has responsibility for the Holodomor.
>le implementation
If the implementation was not accurate to marxism then it was not a marxist state.

>We don't use the word fun
>cultural marxism
You are a A+ autist.
People make music, movies, books, literature without aiming the "fun"
Games can do the same thing. If you don't like, that means you are not the target audiance. Calm.

>If the Soviet Union was a faithful application of Marxist doctrine, that means that doctrine has responsibility for the Holodomor.
Don't put words in my mouth. It's not clever.
>If the implementation was not accurate to marxism then it was not a marxist state.
Okay, autist, whatever. I guess there's no such thing as Marxism then because two Marxists can barely agree on anything so they all cancel each other out.

>playing AAA games in 2020
You could literally just stop
You could just ignore this shit and let the other SJWs not buy these games
You could not advertise these games for free
But you'll keep doing it, because they already have you

It's the marxist class struggle paradigm that was applied to everything that wasn't economics in an attempt to get nations where the class struggle argument did not work (ie did not have the hard caste divide between royalty and serf). It hit white liberals who have a white man's burden complex the hardest.

>Don't put words in my mouth. It's not clever.
I don't think I did that. What part was inaccurate to what you said?
>I guess there's no such thing as Marxism then because two Marxists can barely agree on anything so they all cancel each other out.
This discussion is clearly based around whatever it is you consider marxism to be. I want to avoid splitting hairs over semantics so I'm giving you the benefit of defining it however you feel.

>They created the groups first
Please, humans have been putting eachother in groups since time immemorial. Just because europeans were the first to attempt to define the races scientifically does not mean they did not exist before that.

>the hard caste divide between royalty and serf
This is pre-capitalist society.

>What part was inaccurate to what you said?
Everything, you idiot. It's inaccurate to common sense, even. It's tantamount to saying "if John is a vegetarian, then vegetarianism is the reason he's cheating on his wife, and also the reason he got hit by a truck."

>Please, humans have been putting eachother in groups since time immemorial.
Yes, different groups all the time though, have you noticed?

That would be correct if Marxism had nothing to do with the decision to pursue that policy.
But dekulakization and decossackisation were unambiguous goals of the bolshevik party, and those were goals were determined from their understanding of marxism.

Oh look, this thread again.
This archive doesn't even show the full extent. This thread has been spammed since the day the article was released.

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>europeans literally invented the -son, -dottir, -vic, etc. patronymic/matronymic suffixes for last names
Which says precisely nothing about race or about heritable traits in DNA.
>european clans were based entirely on intermarriage and family dynamics
>europeans married to consolidate power and resources between families
Which shows us how material inheritance works in European society, not how they had an understanding of DNA.
>europeans literally discovered genetics
When was that, again?

>agenda pushing
>cultural marxist
you lost the culture war

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>can't enjoy videogames anymore because it turned into political bullshit

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so if John the vegetarian believes that cheating on his wife is an essential part of vegetarianism, does that reflect poorly on all vegetarians? At the same time, can we deny that John is factually a vegetarian?

There never was a war. It was a slaughter.
Dumb fuck rightoids suicided by being complete retards, whose only response to all mainstream media becoming woke was screaming "nigger" until they get banned from everywhere, and building swastikas in minecraft, ensuring no one would ever take them seriously ever again.

You guys can blame the left all you want but we all know who's behind the scenes pulling the strings...

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You'd probably say that John doesn't know what vegetarianism is and therefore cannot be one ideologically.

Not having an in-depth, scientific understanding of something does not mean that it's impossible that no human throughout the history of our species has ever figured out that their children will inherit their traits. It's such a basic concept that most animals understand it. See lions killing the offspring of other males, or the extent to which most animals will go to ensure their offspring survive. Humans are no different.

Despite being 0.017% of the US population, the Jews control everything.
In fact, it would be impossible for a mere 5.7M jews to control the entirety of the US. Because plot as they might, they don't have the workforce to fulfill their plans.
That workforce comes from somewhere...

Instinctual preference for one's own offspring is far from having an understanding of heritability and some sort of racial awareness. And sure, I suppose they might have figured out that hair colour, eye colour, skin colour etc. are determined by your parents. But that's not actually what we're talking about when we're saying racism is justified by "heritable traits", is it?

Based and redpilled.

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The Last of Us sold 20 million copies.

>da jooz
grow up

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These people are monsters.

Racial awereness and understanding of heritability is made manifest in the instinctual preference for one's own offspring. Those who did not adhere to these basic principles were either bred out of existance (See the neanderthals) or simply killed by rival tribes, thus ending their genetic and ancestral line.

lmao this article never fails to get alt-incels SEETHING does it

>calarts
I wonder who's behind this post.

Read a book.

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you need to wake up

It’s not really even a game, it’s a ”cinematic experience” where you can’t even die even if you try. Discussing it should be banned in a video game board.

I also don't tend to use the word 'fun' when talking about The Last of Us.

More people believe jews control the world, than the entire population of jew. Please explain to me how that works in a paragraph no less than 4 sentences.

>Instinctual preference for one's own offspring is far from having an understanding of heritability and some sort of racial awareness.
>my children look exactly like me, everyone around me looks exactly like their parents, we all look pretty much alike
>person from far off land doesn't look like any of us, has brown skin, just like their parents and everyone in their land
>not racial awareness
are you serious? the egyptians had "racial awareness" like 2500 years ago. There's evidence that neanderthals and homo erectus had ongoing wars between each other. even before the advent of "modern science" people understood that people who didn't look like you generally didn't act like you or your society either.

You die easily in TLOU on Survivor or Grounded mode.

>"Fun is a buzzword!" - Yea Forums
>"We don't use the word 'fun'"
>THIS IS NOT OKAY, IT SHOULD BE FUN

Every damn time.

>More people believe jews control the world, than the entire population of jew. Please explain to me how that works in a paragraph no less than 4 sentences.
Many old religions prohibit usury, with the exception of judaisim. As a consequence, the Jews ended up massively disproportionately represented among lenders of currency. As a consequence of that, they accumulated power in the form of currency. Alongside the aforementioned, the Jews have strict religious guidelines as to what constitutes "being Jewish" i.e. matrilineal inheritance of "jew" status and a high intermarriage rate between jews. The consequence of both of these is that intergenerational wealth is concentrated effectively through generations to only jews. Couple that with the fact that jews are highly discouraged from marrying "goyim and shiksas" and that it's EXTREMELY hard to become a jew when one is not born one, and you see how jews accumulate massive amounts of power through currency and are also more effective at starting from zero due to community jewish support. They tend overwhelmingly to support each other and share financial and business information and only do things that benefit other jews.

>Racial awereness and understanding of heritability is made manifest in the instinctual preference for one's own offspring.
It's not. Because they're not the same thing. In fact, a white mother who has a child with a black man will love her offspring all the same.
>Those who did not adhere to these basic principles were either bred out of existance (See the neanderthals)
An expert on Neanderthal society now, are we?

Now you seem to be conflating race and culture. Tell me, what did the Romans think of their white brethren to the North-West?

Women are programmed to love and protect their children, even if they are mongrels who will be a detriment to the race as a whole. Besides, a european woman who breeds with a negro is not best example to pick when trying to depict the norm.
The Romans and the Germans were different peoples. Different tribes, if you will. They were quite different, but compared to the radically different races of africa and asia they were more similar than not.

Interesting. Well for 1, goddamn, the jews sound like the embody conservative values. If only the right was more like the jews, then the jews wouldn't own everything.

And 2, You say jews didn't prohibit usury, but the jews don't actually live in their own countries. If the jews could practice usury, then that means the government allowed it. Afterall, Jews have always been the vast minority, and so if they ever got too out of hand, any army could easily smash them.

3. While other religions prohibit usury(I don't know if this is ture, I'm only taking your word for it), that doesn't change the fact that people did it anyway. Either in defiance to their religion, or for the fact that they don't practice their religion. Or perhaps they don't even subscribe to a religion. So why were the jews the only ones who benefitted from such practices?

Why do ESLs on Yea Forums always forgot to add "do" i. "why __ X"? It's so annoying. I see it on here and Yea Forums the most.

>Women are programmed to love and protect their children, even if they are mongrels who will be a detriment to the race as a whole. Besides, a european woman who breeds with a negro is not best example to pick when trying to depict the norm.
lol u mad bro? Seething? Coping? Maybe your entire conception of race being based around preference for your own family is just entirely misguided?
>The Romans and the Germans were different peoples. Different tribes, if you will.
They all used to be Indo-European. But still the Romans themselves felt the Egyptians were more like them.

Dumb newfag.

The Egyptians who were contemporary with Romans were Copts, not Arabs.

Subhuman ESL.

They're not sending their best

>we control the banks, the politicians, the wealth, everything
>there's only one thing getting in our way of total global domination:
>not enough lesbians in video games!

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>lol u mad bro?
Spoken like a true intellectual. You've yet to provide a satisfying argument as to why it is misguided. No, the statistically insignificant amount of european women who breed with foreigners is not proof of race not existing.

>How can they keep on making cultural marxist vidya on loss, even though gamers rightly hate it? Who keeps funding that shit?

how can a group of people who love niche genres shout about how the most popular and successful games in the world are actually failures that no one likes? Its like you've spent so much time in these types of communities that you've forgotten that your tastes are the extreme minority

I don't think that's quite right but it's irrelevant either way because it doesn't make them Indo-European and therefore not nearly as closely related to the Romans as the Germans and the Celts and whatnot.

>No, the statistically insignificant amount of european women who breed with foreigners is not proof of race not existing.
You're constantly beating around the bush and dragging a set of goalposts along with you. First, racism was natural because people have a natural preference for their own offspring. Then when I point out that this fact has nothing to do with race and in fact transcends your entire premise for racial distinction, you say "w-well they're just defective anyway because they're not doing what I think they're supposed to do based on my assumptions about race!" and then when I point out logic doesn't work like that, now we're suddenly back on race merely "existing" but I guess without any of the justifications you had for it earlier.

>loser insult
>shaming for societal acceptance
ask me how I know you're either a disgusting dyke or tranny

Sure. The Romans cared more about whether you were a cultural Roman than how much you looked like a Latin.

How unnatural and un-European of them.

Yes, being European is a more recent notion.

kys tranny

>cultural marxist

????......??...!???!?!?!

Hello jew

You never played the game

fuckin told 'em!

> First, racism was natural because people have a natural preference for their own offspring
Yes, exactly. Race is a product of this natural behaviour, and this behaviour was reinforcred by evolution. You think this has nothing to do with race because your Marxist worldview forbids you from doing so. Our views differ on the race question because we base our views on radically and opposing foundations. Race not existing is a founding theory for yours, wheras for mine the founding theory is that it does exist.

Definitely mentally ill.