Pyro

Cope harder that pyro you’re think about was better than you
>but but but
If he wasn’t he wouldn’t have killed you

sure but barely, and how are you supposed to shoot the pyro when his flames actually make it imossible to even see him?

hmm, he couldn't possibly be behind the miniscule wall of fire

Which is one of the biggest reasons all complaints about pyro just sound like whingeing

>shotgun
>gimmick

>spin in circles
>kill everyone next to them
>b-but he has to AIM!
actually play the game man

its not minuscule play the game

If you have ever been unable to counter a spinning pyro I’m truly sorry you’re that fucking stupid

>bro just counter it
actually no argument lmao

This is going to blow your mind but if you don’t charge at a pyro for a hug his flames won’t be as obscuring

I'm sorry you don't have a functioning mouse user, I'd recommend heading to a hardware store and buying one rather than posting retarded shit in Yea Forums.

>Shotgun
>Range

NOOO ONLY SOLDIER IS SUPPOSED TO DO SPLASH DAMAGE! NERF PYRO REEEE

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>bruh I can’t think for myself therefore it’s op
>bruh I can’t be bothered to learn a counter system that’s been in development for almost half my life so it’s op cause I expect to be catered to in a situation I put myself in
You’re the type of dude who’d need the avengers explained to them

thats literally wrong though, you dont play the game so you wouldnt know

Why do people pretend airblasting projectiles is basically free when soldiers and demos stay out of the pyro's range?

>literally has no counter
>dude just counter it LMAO
i bet you never die cause you can just counter everything in the game

>things aren’t smaller if you’re further away
Holy shit user...

Why do we keep responding to this retard, again?

i play sniper and the flames still cover him up like what are you on?
>he thinks flames will get smaller in relation to the pyros body if you just back up
you can't make this shit up...

>there’s no counter to the guy who’s only real option is close range
>not like getting out of his range is a counter
If you expect to be given a counter button go play something with quick time events cause the pyro is the literal easiest guy to counter
he’s also the guy who’ll punish you the most for playing like a pyro as anything other than a pyro
And i die all the damn time cause I get countered by people who know what a counter is

You can, and I've never died to something that I couldn't've prevented just by being better.

Remove Homewrecker

I can actually fully believe that bright lights make everything else invisible to you

Remove sniper first and then we can talk.

Why is [Valve]Niggerkiller on every single server?
They should actually work on their game instead of nolifing it this hard. And whats with that nick?

Hello the little boys and little girls. I am the Pyro-man. And today, I am going to block friendly sniper sightlines with my flames.

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>get out of range
>the only class thats faster than him is scout
>flare gun gives him infinte range
guess ill just never go in a building or turn a corner then

Rub your two braincells together and see if you can realize what's wrong with your post.

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based

Medic and Spy are also faster than Pyro at base speed.

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you literally believe that things are smaller the farther away you are from them, do you think the moon is actually the size of a quarter???
flames dont get smaller just cause you're farther away, so that means they dont obscure the pyro any less if you're farther away.

>Phlog can still instakill you with one particle

>can’t counter the flare gun of all things...
I get it now: you’re a bad sniper and the pyro reminds you of that every time you duel one

yeah they can totally outrun a flamethrower cause they are so much faster than the pyro

Youre absolutely a camper and want that to be the best and easiest option in the game. Here’s the counter you’re asking me for: don’t face the pyro from his front
>bu bu bu mah sightline
Snipers got legs use them

They literally can if they don’t dumbfuck themselves into a corner cause the pyro is an ambush class. It’s your own damn fault if an ambush works every time

They can yes.
Unless you're starting them off right next to each other. In which case they will obviously die, being Medic (weak offense) and Spy (Pyro prey).

>it's 2020 and retards still believe pyro is anything but the second worst class in the game.

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>498189156
>bro just dont ever go in a building or around a corner, its your fault if you get ambushed there!
if a medic or spy ever get in a pyros range even a little they will die and their slightly faster than pyro speed will not save them, especially when flare gun exists. flamethrower just does that much damage

>airblasting

only noobs airblast the rest uses the enemy shit to fly and BURN THEM ALL

>close range class kills non combat class and support class at close range
Amazing, why aren't you in the dev team with your great insight?

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>the built in counter system is wrong if I’m not 100% guaranteed to win at all times
Fuck me youre entitled

>ridiculously gimmicky ranged secondaries
I think I've played with you.

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ironically Pyro has a larger splash radius from reflected rockets

Hello the little boys and little girls. I am the Pyro-man. And even through this mask, I can smell the mental retardation of OP.

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>consistently outplayed by a shotgun at range
>thinks this dismantles anything but your own arrogance

>this machine kills your baby tier pussy
What did he mean by this?

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Alright I’ll admit I misread your post which is why I responded like But you’re right a shotgun is a great counter to a pyro and so few people remember that

Why do people still pretend this is the case? Even after the shitty update that "fixed" pyro (read: made pyro almost objectively worse) I still perform better with pyro in most situations than most other classes. In close quarters I out dps every other class unless they are at least heads above me. This is something that never seems to come up in these discussions, yes almost every other class can out dps pyro even in close quarters, but for them to do that they must be noticeably better than me. It makes sense that they have to be better than me to beat me, it doesn't make sense that they have to be in a skill bracket above me to do so.

People love to say "well just have situational awareness and avoid being ambushed". There doesn't exist a map that can be completely traversed without going into a closed space. This argument also ignores the fact that as pyro, I'm in a much better position against demos and soldiers if they stay out of my range. Airblasting consistently only requires skill in close quarters, it's basically free passed a certain distance. Honestly I'm invincible with a pocket medic and that isn't the case with any other class (and I'm better with both demo and soldier than I am with pyro).

>missing the point this hard
the point was their speed doesn't matter, so saying just outrun the pyro is not an argument
>close range class kills non combat class and support class at close range
all he has to do is graze them with the flamethrower and their dead, it doesn't have to be close range for them to get melted
>the built in counter system
its not really a counter system when pyro counters everyone

I don't fucking know, man. He didn't like my rename. Or getting shot.

I know it's a great counter to a Pyro, and nowadays it seems like it's never expected because Soldiers are so often running banners or gunboats that anyone running a stock shotgun is expected to be a fresh install that can't aim with it.

>people complain about pyro, despite being the 2nd worst class in the game
>not the actual most problematic class in the game

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Pyro is not overpowered in competetive but it is super overpowered in pubs. Yeah there are gamemodes that it's not that good ( payload ) because as you said there are alot of engineers and heavys whitch can counter pyro easily. But in game modes like king of the hill it's insanely OP. For exemple i like playing harvest it's my favourite map and I have a friend who has like 50 hours in tf2. He is alright but he is not a great player. But when he takes pyro ( backburner, jetpack, powerj or backscrather ) he freaking destroys the enemy team and we almost always win. He's top scoring with k/d like 30/4. And all he does is run at people and suddenly jump on them with jetpack. But if I take pyro too the enemy has like 0.1% chance of winning we both just fucking destroy the enemy team we both have k/d like 50+/5-8 and they can't do anything. Well you could argue that they could take engineer/ heavy. Well who plays engineer on king of the hill? ( Unless battle engie ). Well yeah you coul'd argue that heavy could take us down. But thats the thing that heavy can't counter it that well either. With this set ( backb, jetpack, meele) its very easy to ambush heavy and destroy him in like 2 seconds. So yeah is that fare? 2 players that aren't that good take class that is very easy to use and absolutely destroy the enemy team without any hard work and they have no chance of stopping us.

spam flares, problem solved
i also like to use the classic and bodyshot them, its not as easy as flare guns but it's funnier

Whoops, posted wrong pic

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>spam dodgeable flares
>sniper, who has ample time to react to a projectile, moves away
>quickscopes you and then noscopes you
Nothing personal, wankah

>flares
nah, you want the scorch shot, to add insult to injury because you barely have to aim, and eventually instead of a string of damage DINGs, you'll only get two DINGs, signifying you've bothered them enough for them to switch to the danger shield and giving you a moral victory

Saying outplay the pyro is an argument no matter how semantic you get with yourself and the easiest way to counter a pyro is don’t go absentminded and fall into the ambush the pyro wants you in: just like countering a spy

>just dont get ambushed
>just dont get headshotted
>just dont get backstabbed
its not an argument no matter how much you want it to be, also its pathetic thats all you can think of. it kinda shows he has no true counter

At least we can all agree the Pyro is cute.

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sniper can not quickscope faster than you can shoot flares so its actually viable

>just dont get ambushed
>just dont get headshotted
>just dont get backstabbed
You’re actually starting to get it and I’m so proud of you

Why the fuck do I keep seeing the shadow of my own cosmetics on the ground, and only one specific cosmetic?

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>small as fuck hitbox
>can steal pickups
>fast dash attack that can evade projectiles
>stupidly mobile
>half the playerbase rags on you if you kill one because it's a dog
what the fuck were they thinking

yeah so just avoid
>indoors
>corners
>sightlines
>stairs
>corridors
great advice man :(

Gentleman, drink water. The past two months of my life have been hell dealing with 4 kidney stones at the same time. Had surgery last morning and I just woke up in the middle of the night to piss out more blood. I don't care if you hate pyros, soldiers, or snipers, or if you play on mlp servers, but for the love of Miss Pauling drink at LEAST 4 bottles of water a day.

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Autism is one hell of a drug

Remember sprays in Quickplay?

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post yfw people actually have problems with pyros

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why did they remove it

what was the name of that rats style map where you had to cross lawns and a big ass road to get to the other house to fuck up their shit
it had a sandbox and shit with a jungle gym in the backyard and such

SCOUT THIS ISN'T WEED

Jesus, I barely drank water for a LONG while and never got anything like that.
Thankfully I've already made a habit of drinking water a while ago so I don't have to worry about what you've been through, hopefully.
What the fuck were you drinking and for how long that had that happen to you?

If you want a counter button or an easy mode go and play a single player game where that’s an option otherwise understand that this game is balanced in such a way that you’re never 100% safe outside of a resupply room with a closed door and definitely understand that it doesn’t matter how much advantage goes to your opponent you’re never truly defenceless

I’m trying to insult you by saying this but if you’re sub 25 get ready for a shit ton of health problems it happens to us all because no one truly knows how much youth is helping their health along

>game about dealing close range damage
>there nothing wrong with the class who is supposed to be close and the class who shoot far with no close drawbacks

Jeez I wonder

>remove OP
holy shit thread's less faggy now...

>sniper can not quickscope faster than you can shoot flares

>i play sniper and the flames still cover him up like what are you on?
Is your playstyle as sniper to run straight at the enemy and do point-blank shots

>tfw as a pyro ‘main’ I know exactly what to look out for against each class
>tfw I get whinged at by the medic who refuses to stop charging or the sniper who refuses to check behind him

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Sv pure let you download some hack telling where players are

Fuck that’s my bad user *im NOT trying to insult you

I only have problems hitting pipes on pyros walking at me holding m1 for some reason. No matter what it always makes me miss even though I hit everything else except good scouts.

no

It might because the flames block your views
Got the same problem while playing heavy

im for real, the time it takes to scope in-shoot-unscope is longer than it takes to reload a flare.
try it out im serious

No shame we all panic when we’re being burned to hell even pyros panic in spitting distance of another pyro

>complaining about how pyro is OP
>as a fucking sniper main
what the fuck is wrong with OP

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I miss being able to just backpedal and reliably win every Pyro vs Pyro fight.

>tfw the opposition’s pyro loses a few duels to you and learns your move set
>tfw he starts using your own tactics against you
>tfw it’s fucking working for him
Mcfreaking end the pain Senpai

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I mean that's pretty good the the opponent is learning how to counter you and not being a corpse 90% of the time

That's when you get your shotgun.

Why is this one poster so dead set that pyro is OP

>going forwards gives you more range than going backward

What a shitty choice

because he's a sniper main and a shit one at that

True m8 true it’s still just a wee bit frustrating sometimes desu
Hehehe They never see it coming do they?

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>ridiculously gimmicky ranged secondaries
>using the bison against pyros instead of shotguin
>using the bison against ANYTHING

>implying pyro was as bad as release inferno pyro
youtube.com/watch?v=vDHqX6_AX4A
look at this spastic, spinning with his 6k dpi

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>counters everything
>literally no skill to use
>combos are POWER
>combos still take no skill
gee i wonder
other classes actually have to earn their kills,

It deals solid damage, it scares away baiting pyros, and if pyro was W+M1, 2 point blank shots kill him dead

>counters everything
explain

nigger puff-n-sting has been nerfed into the fucking dirt, if you're losing to it you are actual fucking trash.
where's my fellow asbestos scout chads?

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So killing you isn’t earning anything? You gotta work on your self esteem senpai

>flareguns counter snipers and anyone running away
>flaregun crit combos delete any class thats not heavy
>reflect
>counters ubers
>makes sentries even more op by protecting them from literally everything
>most classes are close range
>pyro is the best at close range because he deals the most damge to multiple people at the same time
>barely has to try to do any of this cause no aim required
it really hasn't, still deletes most classes, and most pyros just go for the flaregun crit now which is unstoppable.

>counters everything
not in my 5cp that is, koth, ctf, literally anything except A&D is where pyro is borderline worthless
>literally no skill to use
in terms of a skill floor: yes, in terms of a skill ceiling: no.
pyro in pubs has a skill ceiling that no one really understands, less you're a full-blown main for him like sketchek
youtube.com/watch?v=PAidBlMoKj0
youtube.com/watch?v=CIHn6XePRuI
Rug pull might as well be the defintion for doing a taunt cancel on phlog, everyone knew it could be done before, it's just he made it a bit more mainstream and I still see virtually no one use except me in pubs because they're trash
>combos are power
if you mean flare punch or shit like that, it's dead jim
>combos still take no skill
what time line are you living in lmao xd

if a scout kills me he has good aim
if a sniper headshots me he has good aim
if a demo or soldier kill me he has good aim
if a spy kills me he has good aim and /or movement
but if a pyro kills me its just the class doing all the work for him, he doesn't need good aim or movement or even positioning cause he has weapon options that cover for these things

>if a demo or soldier kill me he has good aim

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>Point-blank
>Range

i play a lot of scout so yeah, that point is kinda relative to the class though

If a pyro kills you you don’t have good aim or good enough situational awareness. People like you are why pyros like me exist. Also
>pyro isn’t a sitting duck consistently enough for me and that makes me sad
That’s what you sound like desu

you can have good aim and still kill him and after burn will kill you. i dont think he needs to be a sitting a duck i just think its wrong that a lack of any kind of technical skill should be rewarded so much.

>People are still to this fucking day acting like pyro is some huge, insurmountable problem to play against
DO YOU BELIEVE IN MAGIC

>most classes are close range
what

>anything except a&d is worthless
>flare punch is dead
>combos take skill
>posts video of spin2win pyro gameplay outside of a&d
holy fuck play the game

most classes are close range

Literally shoot him before he gets the chance to burn you that much
>but the flare guns!?!?!
They’re in every single way less dangerous to you than the Airstrike even the scorch shot
Look we all get frustrated when we get put down but it’s your choice whether you learn from that or attack the very idea that that situation can exist
And remember you can always change classes so you’ll be the one with the advantage

>Soldier
>Demoman
>Engineer
>Medic
>Sniper
>close range

just have fun and play nice user, or you won't get milk and cookies.

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>damage fall off
>pills have bullet drop
>medic
wow 2 and a half classes

pauling milk?

>damage falloff means soldier is ineffective at midrange
>not taking advantage of stickies and arcs for demo
>fighting as medic at all

I have litteraly no problem to any class of this fucking game
Except snipers because the map design is fucking awful because the community can't actually make good maps

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Is that Valve's next masterplan? Selling cosmetics for Ms Pauling?

based

no they're making a mommy pauling vr experience

kys schizo

The madmen.

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what are some good tf2 gmodders since the original topic is shit

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I like playing pyro

How can one man be this good
youtu.be/h68f_fZUG80

shitter detected

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I like to play pyro

Gentlemen! Slap my

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How can people dying to pyro even be real just walk away baka lmao

One rocket can completely cuck phlogfaggits if you werent busy blowing your pocketmed gf(bf) and aimed within 2 meters of the tard

GOTTA GET A GRIP MY LIFE INTO PEICES

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scout desperately needs big buffs

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>Close range is only melee and 2 meters
user you are a fucking tard about half of pyros can airblast so a projectile is 50/50 to kill them easy or or just hold on for a moment and buckle your belts and get strapped into a chair cause what im gonna tell you will blow your mind like a mindflayer prostitute
U S E
H I T S C A N
A N D
W A L K
B A C K
Or just go for gold and cuck them with a good smack with a melee if you are somehow too retarded to kill a semi light class with a shotgun at almost point blank

Only good post ITT

imagine still playing this foreigner and furfaggot filled faggot fest in 2020

>no wrench
come on

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>the original clip actually came from a serious video
YEEEEEEEEEEE

I play pyro

Cause of death: rage induced heart attack

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CLIPPITY CLOP MOTHERFUCKER
BOOM, LOOK AT THIS
THE FREAKING HEAVY'S DEAD

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>Boomer Scout reflecting on his time as a young man
Why does this hurt so much desu
youtu.be/w4Jkq6bovNs

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Horrifying.

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>I'm so bad at tf2 I forgot the "S" key exists

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pyro

>me edgy
>haha they angry
>me funny
Pretty much just autism. Some people think it's a planned attack from another company to discredit Valve games.

what the fuck is even that

10th Class. A fanmade idea.

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as a guy who cant play anything else but Pyro I can say with confidence that the pyro update actually nerfed him

Mah newgga

Y u do dis 2 me

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>tfw have one of these named similarly with a pyros killed counter
>i mostly play shotgun pyro

>to all the voice actors only one of the worst personality class still do tf2 voices

Fuck I want Gary Schwartz and Robin Atkin Downes back

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>go out of Pyro range with hitscan
>do shit damage because game

Whoa thanks user

>ITT
>people complaining about objectively the weakest class in tf2
>a class that gets outdamaged by scout at close range, by sniper and spy at long range, by heavy at close and medium range, by soldier and demoman at any range
>a class that gets outsupported by engi and medic in all scenarios, apart from defending a sentry nest

pathetic

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Stop begging for an easy out and take the options given to you cause it’s already more than you’ve earned

pyr

With a snap of my feingers I shall turn the whole world into dust thus prevent pain like this from ever existing again

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py

The only class that can be argued as close range is engie you mong.
Pyro's only strengths are his low skill floor compared to other classes and map chokepoints letting him be at functional range. Afterburn dps is a tradeoff because of the multitude of ways a person can get rid of it.

If you're dying to pyro before you can kill him, you're ethier bad, didn't pick the multitude of unlocks that counter him and got punished for it, or keep going into disadvantageous chokepoints wondering why the close range ambush class is good at chokepoints.
Pyro has been proven to be one of the weakest classes time and time again both on paper through raw stats and reality.
The typical player is so immenesly shit at aiming that a w+m1 pyro can just stomp.