What went so wrong?
What went so wrong?
I coomed buckets to that game
>sell game on premise that it's a new generation of fighters
>almost all of the new ones play exactly like the characters they replace with only two truly new movesets
>two characters are different versions of another character
>three fucking characters that are mimic fighters
>no individual fighter stories and the main story is worse than all the bullshit that came before
I was kind of forgiving with IV but V was so garbage Namco just straight up rebooted the franchise.
I wonder if they're planning to revisit that time period in future games since SCVI hints heavily at Viola.
>almost all of the new ones play exactly like the characters they replace with only two truly new movesets
Viola and Z.W.E.I. being the new ones?
That's absolute horseshit, because Patroklos was entirely new. Being "inspired" by the other Alexandras doesn't mean he wasn't somehow new.
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It's funny how the worst written parts of SC5 were almost all Pyrrha-related, and yet she is the most popular SC5 character after Viola who is technically Amy, a pre-V character
Alexandras is just a slightly tweaked Sophitia/Cassandra and later Setsuka for some retarded reason. His fighting style is mostly borrowed from old fighters, thus not a truly new character.
Unlikable new characters replacing old characters.
Patracklos is cool though.
>Alexandras is just a slightly tweaked Sophitia/Cassandra
No, he's not "slightly" tweaked, he does in fact not share a single animation with them, and operates differently in combat. He is at most similar.
Viola is legitimately less new than he is, because she actually has a few of Amy's old moves.
>and later Setsuka
His Setsuka moveset is a mostly straight rip, with some modifications here and there to make up for his lack of the umbrella.
>for some retarded reason
The same reason Amy fights similar to Raphael, that being that Setsuka actually taught him how to fight like Raphael did Amy. The game being shit at conveying that doesn't mean the reason itself is stupid.
>What went wrong?
Being fucking rushed by Bamco to get the game out. They clearly didn't have the time to finish the story and other modes.
>Taki's JP voice did lines and face mocap for the game, totally cut
>Producers said Viola would have a huge role in the story; has only one line
>Pat's character development is totally rushed leading to an undeserving ending.
Its too bad because they clearly had a lot of passion for the game and its new characters. With a few more months, they probably could have written Patroklos into a likable, albeit contemporary, character. They also could have also addressed some holes in the plot such as Lexia's pendant, Raphael's descent into Nightmare and everything about Viola.
Also reminder that Kilik is a LITERAL cuck in the canon,
>rushed
>has the most fighting styles in any soulcalibur
>pushing gen 7th graphical limits
>most varied and detailed stages in any soulcalibur
>rushed
>Also reminder that Kilik is a LITERAL cuck in the canon,
And it was fully deserved, at that, dude just up and abandons X and his child.
Don't forget the strongest overall soundtrack in the series.
>rushed
Yes.
>Kilk is a cuck
Elaborate
>Best guest character/stage of all time
>Stuck in that dumpster fire
Please bring back Ezio in SC6. It's not fair.
Daybreaker, Till Fate Writes My Epitaph, Blood Thirst Concerto, Sleepless, Wandering Seer and Dance of the Oracle... so many good battle themes.
Yes, it was rushed. The producers said many times that they weren't able to add all the modes and give every character an ending like they wanted:
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It is great though that they focused on the gameplay when they were met with a deadline because of all the shit V gets, its gameplay was really good.
Kilik and Xianghua fucked and X has Xiba. Kilik instead focuses to become the next Edge Master so Xianghua gives up Xiba and marries, later having Lexia and one other kid.
>has the most fighting styles in any soulcalibur
The fuck are you talking about? If you ignore the 4 mimic fighters it has less than IV. Not to mention Dampierre is almost an exact rip from the PSP game which itself was built from leftovers of what was going to be a DLC character for IV.
>Best guest character
>Link
>Geralt
>2B
Assassins Creed is actual garbage and the stench of it probably hurt SC5's reception
Rushed, and the Tsunami happened in the middle of the development, IIRC.
Ezio is a pretty cool guest character though and actually fits the setting.
lmao I remember they said that about Viola at TGS and being confused as to why she was barely in the story.
It’s pretty obvious they’re answering all the questions about 5 in 6
As far as story goes, what they did to Sophitia and her kids is fucking criminal. Although iirc the Critical Edge was a good addition since the Critical whatever it was in IV was super retarded
>The light of the moon filtered through a single window. A smile gracing his lips, Kilik caressed the cheek of the sleeping Xianghua one more time and layed down his cherished pendant beside her; the stone that was a keepsake of his elder sister.
>Surrendering to his destiny, he had decided to interfere in the battle of the source of evil, Soul Edge, and the spirit sword, Soul Calibur, to find a way to stop them. It is a harsh path; one where he must abandon all. He lamented it for the young woman who loved him dearly, Xianghua. She had accepted Kilik and his terrible fate entirely, embracing him, wanting to be together no matter what...
>"It's because you have accepted me, that I can live with my destiny."
>Before the stroke of dawn, there was no longer any remaining trace of Kilik
They did have sex at some point, spawning Xiba, who is born after Kilik has left.
>When Xianghua returned to her homeland, her grandfather gave her an ultimatum to kill her son.
>Yan Wujin stepped in and offered to marry Xianghua in exchange for sparing the child's life.
Yan Wujin being a high ranking chinese general and one of the people Xianghua has learned the sword from.
>She took Xiba to Edge Master, hoping that he could help him. But, he in turn introduced her to Kong Xiuqiang, her long lost father. Xiuqiang happily agrees to raise his grandchild. >However, the emotional toll of the situation leads Xianghua to only visit Xiba once a year.
Horrible character designs
New characters move sets are bad and anti soulcalibur
Shit arcade mode
Butchered Kilik
Introduced anti soulcalibur special moves
Made Siegried's face look fat
Uninteresting story mode
Soulcalibur style music is gone
They always say the same to hide their incompetence. They said the same for VI
probably not going by cassandra's story
>Horrible character designs
Patroklos character design is great, Xiba is visually fine(but less so in terms of character), Viola is a good design... it was a mixed lot.
>New characters move sets are bad and anti soulcalibur
Define anti-soulcalibur. Z.W.E.I.'s moveset was legitimately bad as far as viability goes though. The other new movesets were very high tier.
>Shit arcade mode
Lack of Arcade Endings do suck, but not any worse in terms of gameplay than any before them.
>Butchered Kilik
I'll give you that one.
>Introduced anti soulcalibur special moves
You mean the ones that were clearly based on the first game in the franchise?
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>Made Siegried's face look fat
Sure?
>Soulcalibur style music is gone
You had access to more old SC music than ever before in V, and it had the best indiviual soundtrack by a mile as well.
Ever since 2 I have only bought SoulCaliburs with a Talim in them and that's not going to change
Patroklos is shit.
SCV is shit and was a waste of a game. Devil Jin was interesting but the rest of the game was fucking shit compared to how well fleshed out his moveset was.
>Patroklos is shit.
His visual design is good and his moveset is one of the most enjoyable to play in the entire series. His story is shit.
>Devil Jin was interesting but the rest of the game was fucking shit compared to how well fleshed out his moveset was.
The man with no taste. I guess Heihachi was your favorite moveset in SCII as well?
Specials ruin the pace of the fight
Is it worth picking up sc6 on pc? The last i played was 3.
It was a great game at it's core, but it's a damn shame basically ALL the single player content got cut.
yes
>Specials ruin the pace of the fight
You are free to think so, but they are not "anti soulcalibur", they are return to the roots of the franchise.
>however..
>however...
>however...!!!!
Jesus christ. who the fuck writes these things?
Specials are also a mistake in 6. there is no need for that in SC since it breaks the flow of what it made good with original games.
I genuinely liked Patroklos. Both forms
Tell me, why you like him?
If they get there the timeline is going to be so different as to be unrecognizable. Both Zasalamel and Cassandra have knowledge of that future and ideas on how to avoid it. No bullshit "Xianghua doesn't get with Kilik and settles down with a literal who instead" bullshit. Maybe Zasalamel and Ivy will hit it off much earlier
He's basically what would happen if Shadow the Hedgehog and Sophitia had a baby.
Not expanding/exploring this idea of SC3.
I installed SC3 onto a PS2 just to play this shit again
>designs
Both are excellent designs, normal Patroklos more so, mostly because of that extravagant fur.
>gameplay
I mained Hilde, Patroklos was my secondary. He is a relatively simple character, easy to pick up, easy to get going and then he really gets going with fast, in your face moves, high damage, great special build-up and just all-around fun to play. Alpha Patroklos I tried, and wished I could get good at him, but at least there were other pro-players that could display his fast, explosive style. Also I'm a sucker for Iaido just to style around.
>character
That is more about how they are portrayed in the fights. Patroklos is a cocky bastard, his attitude is just great, especially that "I WIN". Alpha Patroklos is a HEROIC HERO TO THE HEROISM MAXIMUM OF EXTREME and I love these kinds of characters, if they don't take themselves too seriously, which this game certainly doesn't do.
>story
Ah yes, the story. Patroklos really starts as an unlikable asshole, but he mellows out as his sister becomes more important to him, turns into a humble, determined hero, and ultimately has the guts to face Soul Calibur himself. Who else did this?
>music
Both fantastic songs that reflect the nature of their respective character.
>when the savefile for this mode corrupted my memory card with other rpg saves on it
Thanks Bamco. And thanks for never releasing the arcade version of 3
>corrupted
what causes'd that to happen?
No older Talim
The bug is due to the save not being the latest one. If you save that corrupted file onto another memory card and then save it back to the original one, it then works as normal.
Bamco released a bugged mess out of SC3.
Just imagine a teenager, all happy, buying 3 on release after playing 1 and 2. Imagine having fun as shit unlocking characters and all. Imagine getting his savefile suddenly corrupt, then trying Budokai 3 with everything unlocked and realizing it was also corrupt and see if the Disgaea 1 was also corrupt and it was. All those hours of unlocking and doing shit for nothing, to realize I wasnt the only one with this problem that the recommended thing at the time was "have a memory card just for SC3"
Yeah, now go back in time and warn my younger self and all others of that.
That's kinda the point of that character.
>not wanting to see big tiddy mommy Talim
Fag
You are probably shitposting, but again, that's the point of that character. You have other titty monsters already there for you. At the same time, nobody demands that said titty monsters get their bust reduced because it's their fetish.
That said Talim would probably still look more or less the same even as an adult, similarly like Army can still rock the gothic lolita style.