I got hired at gamestop. I guess I need to push doom eternal preorders. I thought this was a fucking meme...

Just ask, even if people are saying no the manager will see you "trying". Gamestop is nice if you have employees that care about games. I enjoyed my stint there and my manager was pretty good about not bitching at us about corporate stuff. I would have stayed on longer if I didn't have to go back to school

Umm shouldn't you be the popcorn mines?

Why do they even give a fuck about preorders? You'd think they want to push used sales.

>BB
I'm not american
also, I work as a postman whenever they need people
there are times when they need a lot of people so I work a lot, and there are times like these months when I barely get called to work (I'm a temporary worker, dunno how it is called in america)
I'd love to work there permanently tho

I just want to max my possibilities

>getting a job at a dying company with a history of treating employees like used car salesmen
For what reason

>I'm not american
Good, I was going to call you a dumbass for leaving a job that gives you a government pension for a generic retail one.

Cause when they shut down I dont have to tell Mom I got fired and it wasnt my fault

I know, I'm not retarded
as I said, I'd work as a postman permanently if I could
>play lots of videogames and still be fit as fuck due to walking a lot and walking up stairs
epic

>hey robert, youre not gonna apply the singles tax r-right?

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Hey, there's my waifu Pinkie Pie in the bottom left there.

Because PS5 is coming out and I still like to watch movies.

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>Vote Bernie

user Bernie doesn't want to give you a living wage.
He just wants to take it away from everyone else who has one so that everyone gets to be equally miserable.

Sony bought Gamestop, so the he's pretty much doing the same job.

Did you have a gun to your head while you typed this?

Both Bernie and Biden support a $15 minimum wage, user.

They do that too.
Anytime anyone asks you to look up a game or calls to see if you have one, you're supposed to highlight any used products first.
And preorders themselves aren't the rub, it's getting you in the store. That's 90% of their whole shtick, shit that gets you coming back to the store because it increases the chances that you'll 1) come there again and 2) purchase something in addition to what you came for.
Only the regional managers and corporate faggots want those preorder numbers, because its a loose (and inaccurate) idea of how well-visited a store is. Because ideally the cashier is asking everyone who comes in about preorders, so the theoretically the store that isn't getting very many isn't doing very well.

Robert, w-what are you doing in the popcorn mines?

Likely because they're getting a lot of product in and they have enough space issues as-is.
And every new game sold is a potential trade-in later.

You sound like an agency worker.

>work at gamestop
>see this girl taking up space
wat do?

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since when were gamestops ever this big? all the ones i've seen are cramped little hole in the wall places in malls

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>$15 minimum
Fuck that! You animals don't deserve that much. Even $10 is pushing. Not to mention that if its raised that much prices of everything are going to go up which will only screw those of of us that make more than $15.

I am legitimately ok with this. If we're all miserable maybe something around here will get done.

what's an agency worker?

Wonder when Gamestop started opening locations in Barnes and Noble.

>Not to mention that if its raised that much prices of everything are going to go up
Ahh, I see you've never taken any economics class ever.

No I actually had a good manager and coworkers. Everyone was pretty chill and knew their shit about vidya. I was a seasonal hire and the only bad experiences I had were with customers.
>put the sticker for P4Golden or some weeb game on tomb raider on accident
>guy is getting tomb raider for basically 65 percent off
>still comes to complain about it
>tell him it was my bad and I'll ask the manager if I can use the lower price since I made a mistake
>he starts seething about companies being untrustworthy and posting dishonest prices
>talking to himself and getting spit everywhere while turning really red
>kind of worried I'm about to become part of a quadruple homicide
Second worst encounter
>Black friday 6AM
>more crowded than you'd think
>almost the end of my 8 hour shift so I'm just ringing up whatever people put in front of me
>basically a zombie
>a man comes up to complain about someone cutting in line
>starts recording me on his phone
>ranting about how gamestop employees are shit
>Some old 35 year old boomer literally knocks the guy out and says that US marines deserve more respect than that
>lolwut
>he asks me if I served with him in some army unit
>tell him no but I do have to report this incident to the police
>he leaves and I give the cops a terrible description so he won't get caught
I still think about that old guy sometimes

I didn't study Economics so I'm not aware of the potential ramifications this might have so I don't have a strong opinion about it, but I would assume this would hurt a lot of small business that can't afford to pay their employees this much. I've heard there's a lot of economists that say it would be good for the economy though, so I can't say for sure.

You're probably not one reading your reply again but you sound like someone that's on a zero hours contract which you see in the UK. You're employed but you go in whenever they ring you.

Agency worker is you go through an agency and they find work for you and they can get you to start the job straight away.

Poor people are stupid and spend their money instead of saving it. Raising the minimum wage only stimulates the economy more.

Gotta get the PS5 buyers their snacks for the The Last of US 2: Lesbian Buggaloo (Rated PG).

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>which will only screw those of of us that make more than $15.
Good. The poor cu ts working minimum wage jobs woek a fuckload harder and their labour is exploited in roles that productively produce far more economic benefit to the rest of society. Most above award rate workers are middle class parasites that need to be culled to begin with.

>Poor people are stupid and spend their money instead of saving it.
I would agree, but I would also like to add that middle-class people are also stupid and don't manage their money well.

That's not even a living wage, what the fuck are you on about? States should be pushed to have their minimum wage as 2% of their wealthiest city's median rent and landlords should be federally blocked from attempting to weasel around this, or just pushed into state-level regulations.

ah, no
here in my country, the mail company has workers with a permanent employment contract
then there's something like a database that has around 400-600 people per city so they call people from that database to work when someone goes on holidays, suffers an injury, there's a lot of work, etc

I'm on that database
sorry for using those weird terms but I've never talked about my job in english, so..

>I want to work in gamestop
Lmao no you fucking dont

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>The federal government should have the authority to prevent people from charging what they want for their property

People like you need your heads kicked in

Basic housing, education, and probably even food should be free and we should tax the rich to pay for it. Why you ask? Because a healthy and thriving society requires everyone to do well and not just the rich. Not to mention the rich only got there BECAUSE of the money they made off of the people. They honestly should be required to give back and help the lowest and poorest right to a point of comfortable living.

In the vast majority of places, $2,400 a month is very livable. Obviously if you live in a very high CoL area it wouldn't be, but then again, those places tend to have higher wages than average anyway.

Landlords should be rounded up and gassed.

They intentionally and knowingly leech off of people renting their properties and most do not perform the services they are required to do regarding the rented properties; and tend to raise the price of rent above what renters can actually pay while deluding themselves into believing they're doing something morally just when they're just being a long-nose.

Most people don't make 2400 dollars a month. Thanks America.

yes I do
why not?

perfectly fine, I'd love billionaires to be terrified of losing their homes and being unable to afford healthcare. fuck 'em.

This. Landlords are Usury personified and need to be in the camps

Haha, oh Robert. G-gotta go fast, am I right? Haha.

Pulling a few quotes from a debate I slogged through with some retard who thought everything was okay as it is:
> It'd be really fucking easy to fix the American home economy and way of life by shutting down the two-party system, federally raising minimum wage income to 2% of a city's median rent, providing tax cuts for the citizens and small businesses presently in poverty and living below the cost floor for getting out of poverty, and providing an injunction on tax cuts for large corporations while raising taxation on them (the corporate body itself) and their owners due to their significant income.
> Then federally revoking educational requirements for occupations costing minimum wage that require no further instruction aside from on-the-job training (convenience stores, gas stations, liquor stores, sanitation and janitorial, maintenance, the likes); as well as revoking the educational requirements for enlistment in the military and state guard services and instead allowing enlistees to gain educational certificates from their service.
>Nobody wants to do it because it's not-profitable for the corporations and lobbyists, but it'd be a fantastic start to fixing everything which could be followed by forcing privatization out of the field of healthcare to drop down exorbitant fees that'd place people in debt.

> and tend to raise the price of rent above what renters can actually pay

This doesn't make any sense. It's so fucking obvious you are a lazy faggot thats never had to deal with paying rent before

I worked there for a month and I had to quit because of this shit. I can’t stand being forced to shove pre-orders and power up rewards down people’s throats. And almost every co-worker I had was either a tranny or some dude with purple hair, fuck that shit

>a person charging a sum of money to rent their property out is just like interest on a loan

??? are you fucking retarded?

If businesses have to pay their employees more you bet your ass the consumer is going to have to pay it.

Flipping burgers isn't all that big of an economic benefit. All jobs that require no skill should cap at about $8/hr and be worked exclusively by high school and straight out of high school people. If you're still working a shitty job in your mid 20s you fucked up at life and deserve what you get.

I agree that the price of rent is fucking ridiculous, but that's not really my problem. Just have better credit and buy a house.

That's about what I make after getting fucked in the ass by insurance and taxes, and about 40% of my income is disposable.

The problem is that even with insurance one hospital visit is instant bankruptcy.

You would make that much on a $15 minimum wage, user.

You are literally the definition of a bootlicker. You are genuinely saying you need daddy government to subsidize your pathetic life for you

Fuck off and get a job you god damn leeching nigger.

>If businesses have to pay their employees more you bet your ass the consumer is going to have to pay it
I see you STILL don't understand how economics work. For some reason you think businesses can only cut costs from their bottom line and employees pay.

>$2,400 a month is very livable
it's almost like a lot of people don't make that
plus, even 2400 a month is only -just- livable. You're still at the point where something going wrong with your car or with your health will bring your family to financial ruin.

How much do you think people make in shithole countries?

>sorry for using those weird terms but I've never talked about my job in english, so..

No need to apologise, friend. It sounds a bit like a zero hours contract in the UK. You're employed to the business but you get called whenever they need you.

Not him but I thought I wanted to work there too, I didn’t listen to anyone and just said “no, I wanna work there, I know I do” and holy shit was I wrong. You will lose your soul after being there about a week or two

There's no educational requirements for hiring unskilled labor in America. You're just unlikely to get hired without a HS diploma. Lots of states protect against discrimination based on education.

>Bernie Sanders niggers are so fucking stupid they will talk shit about mega corporations, then demand a federal minimum wage that will ensure small businesses that aren't mega corporations will close shop

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Cry more, samefaggots. The government is meant to uphold the well-being of society. If that means slamming jews who abruptly say "oy vey, time to pay $780/week when your rent was just $580/week and you were barely getting by on that", then so be it.

>ad hominem
Every time. No one ever has a legitimate counter point to this and resort to name calling or just flat out saying 'You're wrong.'

Tell her how gross the old carpet is and she should think about things like that more

if something can't pay a livable wage it's not worthwhile to work at

>Just ask
I hope they enjoy their empty store that I'm never coming back to.

Unlanded members of society shouldn’t be able to even vote. Be grateful some fool is allowing you a place to reside.

Jesus christ, the average person really doesn't know shit about how taxes work or the military. Revoking educational requirements for enlistment in the military is one of the stupidest things I've read today.

The ONLY places with unaffordable housing a far leftist metropolitans that over-regulate everything to the point where landlords have the raise the prices on rent. You aren't OWED housing you fucking pussy ass faggot

I literally pointed out that he is demanding the federal government subsidize his life. You're just a sad faggot with no response

yeah, I will probably feel like that, I don't like modern garbage games and I don't enjoy pushing perorders and sales
but I need the money

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Are you people retarded? Find a respected business where you can grow your skills and advance your career not sell kiddie shit to manchildren all day while wearing a sweaty company t shirt.

Is it that big of an ask to say "are there any upcoming video games you'd like to preorder?"

this is a good, fuck millionaires and billionaires, I could be starving to death and i'll still keep a big fat smile on my face knowing mr. goldbergstein is gonna rot inside some gulag

Are you so soft that someone asking if you wanna pre-order something is enough to make you never come back there?

HAHAHA CREEPER BOOK

yeah, it's pretty similar
hope you guys have at least better employment conditions

How do you respond to someone who calls you names in an argument? You don't because you already won the moment they lost their legitimacy resorting to it. Enjoy the rest of your day friendo.

>You aren't OWED housing
>you aren't OWED water
>you aren't OWED food
lmao fucking uberfascist bootlicking cuck

>Why is every restaurant or bar some shitty chain?
>BECAUSE IF A MOM AND POP RESTAURANT CAN'T PAY MY RENT AND ALL OF MY OTHER FAGGOT SHIT THEY DON'T DESERVE TO BE OPEN

Kill yourself little kid

Why the fuck should I have to pay for Tyrone's house and food? When I'm the one who worked my ass off, starting with literally nothing when I came to this country, to be able to get where I am. If they want better things then go fucking work and earn it you lazy fucks.

Based

Yes. Don't talk to me. I didn't ask for this. If I wanted it, I would have asked for it. I repeat, DON'T talk to me.

thats what I thought bitch run away

>that useless faggot that wants to government to fund his life calls someone else a bootlicker

LOL graduate high school before you open your mouth about the real world

well yes if I can't afford a -life- from a job why would I work that job?

Because Tyrone is part of the same country that helps you to make that money. If the country stagnates and falls apart then all of your hard earned things and money are literally worthless.

Well I guess you can try it out man, maybe you’ll like it. Just know that the job is barely talking about vidya with people and more about pushing sales as hard as possible. And be ready for people to flip their shit when you tell them NBA 2k15 is only worth 50 cents for trade in, even though they would have known that their self if they checked online before leaving the house. I could go on and on but I guess you’ll learn on your own if you pursue a career there. Good luck

>restaurants and bars
>paying their staff minimum wage
Pick one

Because a remedial job that any asshole can do doesn't mean you deserve to have your life taken care of, dumb bitch

How retarded can you physically fucking be?

Cry more, retard. You're literally defending the fact that Blizzard's tax cuts go into the negative to the point they're receiving federal welfare to the tune of $200m+ just for existing; and retards would still have to filter through the ASVAB and boot. All that this would mean is they don't require a GED or diploma to get their chance.

Housing is a human right and deserves to be subsidized. Same for water, same for food.

>... providing tax cuts for the citizens and small businesses presently in poverty and living below the cost floor for getting out of poverty, and providing an injunction on tax cuts for large corporations while raising taxation on them (the corporate body itself) and their owners due to their significant income.
Literally saying you shouldn't be required to pay asinine amounts to fulfill welfare when there are companies and corporations that solely function off of their inane greed to the point CEOs are oft making vastly multiplied figures compared to their workers that could just as easily be doing it for them.

lmao big mean old Bernie isn't gonna come for your 42000 a year trade school electrician job fixing air conditioners in the summer, you will never be a billionaire
and most billionaires didn't WORK to get where they are, they stole other people's work.

Do you people even read the chain, we're talking about a $15 MINIMUM WAGE which people would make $2,400 a month under.

>You're still at the point where something going wrong with your car or with your health will bring your family to financial ruin.
Wrong, if you're not financially illiterate and aren't living above your means, you can manage just fine. The problem is that most people are dumb as fuck with their money and often live paycheck to paycheck. We shouldn't just keep raising wages until this type of lifestyle is secure.

there are minimum wages for both those types of businesses, which they would have to raise. The cost of overhead is insane as a business owner and an arbitrary raise of minimum wage would destroy them

Why are you like this? I’m a socially retarded autismo but I don’t get upset at people just doing their job. You think they want to ask people about pre-orders and shit? Fuck no. They are being forced by their managers to say that shit or they risk being fired.

ahh yes, something you do 5 days out of a 7 day week with the worst vacation and sick day benefits in the first world isn't worthy of a living wage
a service clearly popular enough to need to pay someone to do it isn't worth a living wage, hell that service shouldn't be done in the first place

if your store gets alot of business those daily,weekly,monthy counts of preorders,prps,and game warrenties are fucking vital to you lasting there. Fortunatly I worked in a mall where there was another gamestop 2 mins up the road so it wasn't too important. Also if you're a GA and your location doesn't get alot of business you're looking at working there once or twice a fucking month.

T. Former employee

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>Housing is a human right and deserves to be subsidized. Same for water, same for food.
>You NEED to let me live on your property AND I will decide what is a fair amount

You're a delusional little pussy

>middle class wagies think if they work hard enough that someday they too will join the elite upper class
lmao, keep slaving away for your overlords idiots and definitely keep voting to help them stay rich and keep other people poor.

You are retarded. I say it often on this board but this time I really mean it.

>this white boy thinks if housing was government mandated that darkies will be forced to live in his house and rape his wife and daughter

lmao he's a bitch because he doesn't support a nationwide price fixing conspiracy?

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>ad hominem yet again because no counter point
lul

Fuck Tyrone he's a dime a dozen and if he drops dead today there's 11 more ready to replace him. The country won't fall apart because of him.

I never said I was a billionaire or that I was trying to become one. Even so those rich assholes don't owe anyone shit. They made that made and it's up to them how they want to spend it, bot the fucking government. People already have too much just handed to them in this country. If anything let the lazy just die off, we'd be better off without them.

Yes, flipping burgers or operating a weed whacker shouldn't translate to a wage that can afford a car, a house, insurance, bills, etc. By 19 I was working 55 hours a week as a crane operator in a machine shop, deal with it yourself pussy

>he doesnt think if the government mandates housing all your neighbors will slowly be replaced by ex-homeless drug addicts, spics, and niggers

lmao, how retarded can you be
state governments should be getting forced with federal overhead to push the development of khrushchyovka blocks
at least that'd make jobs and perform chink chink on the economy

those rich assholes do in fact owe people shit because there's nothing they can physically fucking do with that money beyond keep vast sums of it out of the economy which directly harms the state

Why would you think it was a meme? If you'd visited a location you would've known they constantly push that shit. My first job ages ago was at a smaller game store that focused more on old-school (still new stuff though) and they barely made me push shit. I could've never worked at a place like GS after hearing horror stories from friends.

>khrushchyovka blocks
kek

> A D H O M I N E M

>Even so those rich assholes don't owe anyone shit. They made that
lmao no they didn't, they stole it from people who are actually working, and them hoarding it actively harms the nation and people who live in it.

>this dumbass faggot thinks billionaires just have billions in cash sitting in a bank

Jeff Bezzos or whatever pays more in property taxes than you and your entire faggot family combined multiplied by 100

>lmaobertarians actually believe this
the world is doomed

If the want to literally burn all their money or dump it all into the ocean it's up them because they earned it. Fuck lazy entitled people that just want shit handed to them. NOBODY OWES YOU A DAMN THING.

>how is an unemployed loser on welfare beneficial to society
>WAHHHHHHH AD HOMINEM

Stupid fuck lmao

Which is why I don't shop there. I'm not mad at them. I'm rectifying a situation I find unpleasant.

imagine defending landlords
there's literally a landlord forum where they discuss things like planting drugs in people's apartments so they can kick them out and raise prices

How quickly did you have to google what ad hominem was?

> a d h o m i n e m
why are you so angry user? who hurt you? did your wagey-cagey breaky-weaky? did mr. bezos not give you your mandated break last shift?

What are you talking about? I'm just making fun of you because you couldn't address his actual argument and instead got butthurt over the fact that he called you a dumb nigger

>says the little kid faggot who is crying because the government wont pay his rent

>how is an unemployed loser on welfare beneficial to society
He buys things and thus stimulates the economy. This isn't actually hard economics to learn either. People spending money (even if it was just given to them) is a GOOD thing for society. You think Tyrone is gonna just save the welfare money he gets? No you idiot. He spends it on shit unlike rich people.

>You're literally defending the fact that Blizzard's tax cuts go into the negative to the point they're receiving federal welfare
Yes, most big businesses pay little to no taxes, because they take advantage of all the tax breaks they can, just like we all do when we file taxes. All of the employees and CEOs with their huge paychecks still pay taxes though, even if their business can be exempt from them.

>All that this would mean is they don't require a GED or diploma to get their chance.
They want new recruits to have at minimum the basic knowledge and discipline of a high school graduate. If you're so much of a fuckup that you can't be bothered to get a GED, they don't want to waste time putting you through training and wasting resources when there's a good chance you'll drop out.

>some nigger getting money from tax payers so he can buy mountain dew and hot cheetos is a good thing and the economy needs it

You are a massive dumb fuck, holy shit. The money that gets extracted from working people's wallets stimulates the economy tooo, fuck whit

>unironically hating those who save money instead of blindly spending it like a retard

???

If he wants money to spend he should work for it instead of being a fucking begging nigger.

>The money that gets extracted from working people's wallets stimulates the economy tooo, fuck whit
What are you even trying to say here? I think your blood pressure might be too high right now. Please go get a drink of cold water if you wish to continue supporting your point.

how do you think welfare is funded? You're saying a nigger on welfare buying shit is good for the economy, when he is getting that money from other people. Jesus Christ you are a fucking retard

>fuck whit
He is an indoctrinated 'nog trying to follow whitey's wishes. Do not weep for him.

There's a difference between saving working class level money in the event of an emergency or for your children and saving the entire gross GDP of many nations for literally no reason.

>go into gamestop for the first time since last gen (only went in there maybe a couple times back then as well)
>half the store is filled with computer set ups
>big cough and television
>collectibles
Wut

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>trust the landlords goy
>trust the government goy
Why can't things just be cool without one group amassing power? All of you are just relativists shilling for whatever benefits you the most.

>he thinks rich people just have millions and billions in cash just sitting around

You are a retarded little kid

>I got hired at gamestop.
user, this will be the single best time in your life to get a gamer girlfriend (or boyfriend). Talk to your coworkers, have a good time. And godspeed my friend.

>how do you think welfare is funded? You're saying a nigger on welfare buying shit is good for the economy, when he is getting that money from other people. Jesus Christ you are a fucking retard
This is getting more incoherent as we go. I really think you need to chill, get some water, and relax before you have stroke from your blood pressure spiking.

>i have no response and I've been btfo so Im just going to act dumb

Pretty pathetic desu

>he doesn't know
Bezos literally has an entire room filled with piles of money stacked on top of each other.

>most billionaires didn't WORK to get where they are, they stole other people's work.
Ah yes, let me guess, you think this because it's your gut reaction? No real studies that predominately show this to be true? Just a feeling you have because bernie bros demonize them so often? Think people like Jeff Bezos or Bill Gates didn't contribute shit to society and just stole people's money? Jesus thank fucking god I'll never be as brainwashed as you sheep.

>t. Retailcuck who makes $19k a year sucking up to billionaires

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okay joker from the dark knight

>Just know that the job is barely talking about vidya with people and more about pushing sales as hard as possible
that sounds fucking awful
I guess I'll only treat the job as something really really temporary if I ever get the job, which I highly doubt since the employment in my country sucks

Okay so you're just a troll then? Good I was worried anyone was actually that stupid. Anyway here's your last (You) friend. You had me going for a bit there. Kek

Respond to what? You didn't make a point to respond to. You just babbled about how you think welfare works and then went on a racial tirade. I would have loved to have responded but I found nothing to respond to.

Amazon and Microsoft provide great services to society
difference being Microsoft employees to my knowledge haven't had their health care benefits slashed and don't piss in fucking bottles

Yeah bro, I bet he has just a billion dollars just sitting in a room. Probably just has 10 billion sitting in his first national bank savings account, haha. That's definitely where the vast majority of his income is. One thing highly rich people will tell you is that your money is best spent sitting in a savings account doing nothing, heh.

>how you think welfare works

Holy shit do you think welfare comes from somewhere else other than taxes?

No? I just literally couldn't figure out what he was trying to say.

My first job at a game store did end up with me making lots of friends that I still hang out with today.

Don't reply to him anymore user, he's just baiting at this point. It's not worth it.

No? I don't know what lead you to that conclusion as I said nothing that would indicate that I believe that.

>difference being Microsoft employees to my knowledge haven't had their health care benefits slashed and don't piss in fucking bottles
I'm sorry what does this have to do with Amazon or Microsoft or their creators? Sounds like the government is doing a shitty job to me.

>mfw used my autism as a teen and learned how to program
>mfw make $60 an hour
Should've used your youth better user

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This is your argument
>a unemployed nigger on welfare is good because he buys stuff that stimulates the economy

Then I say
>That nigger is getting his money from tax payers that could be spending it themselves

You then proceeded to explain that you are too fucking stupid to understand this and asked me to calm down. Now we're here, get it?

Poor and middle-class people that defend the rich are no different than the beta orbiters that donate to women who stream vidya

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Have fun pushing pre-orders and trade quotas as you work for min wage, and then your store closes in 3 months.

There's 4 Gamestops in a 15 mile radius around me and 2 of them closed, one just last week, not even joking. The end is near

>I have no refutation but I must post.

What if im wealthy and defend the rich?

Actual people who work and make up the middle class aren't unemployed pussies like you

Then you're doing it correctly. If your beliefs involve making life better for someone you wish to become then you're doing it wrong. No one is looking out for you but you.

Recommend some titles.

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Then you're shitty but at least you're not a cuck.

Poor and middle-class people who demonize the rich largely do so because of jealously and ignorance. At the end of the day, people that become rich are individuals like the rest of us playing by the rules of our society. If you don't like the rules, blame the government, not the individuals. Demonizing people like this turns off a lot of people and makes your "movement" look like a clown fiasco like Trump's.

You're a thot complaining no one donated yet.

>At the end of the day, people that become rich are individuals like the rest of us playing by the rules of our society.

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only spoiled little brats complain about the rich. The majority of these people have a roof over their head and food in their stomach, and are just mad because they dont have what they want

>At the end of the day, people that become rich are individuals like the rest of us playing by the rules of our society.

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>strawman
Big oof. Does no one on Yea Forums now how to prove a point?

>housing should be free
Bernnie bros everyone

As an LL, there is a shit ton of hoops I have to go through just to make sure my tenants live in a good home, steal my house from under me, or sue me for some stupid shit. I can't tell you the number of stupid shit I hear like renter stops paying during fall and can't be removed until spring from other LLs just because they didn't cover their ass.

High rents are just another way sadly of filtering out fiscally irresponsible tenants because once they're in, you're fucked.

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Rich people don't play by the rules, they exploit wherever they can. You'll find half the people who hate the rich want them taxed just like everyone else.

Sorry, user. I should have treated your original argument of
>Poor and middle-class people that defend the rich are no different than the beta orbiters that donate to women who stream vidya
more seriously.

I work for a family owned machine shop, 3 brothers and two sisters. Their dad who started the company was born in Italy and immigrated to the USA when he was young, fought for USA during ww2, and then came back from the war and started a business from his garage after buying a lathe. He then bought a building, and then a bigger building, and then the building across the street. These people provide good paying jobs for me and 20 something other guys most of whom have been working their for decades. (One guy who is in his late 60s even remembers when the Dad was running the place.) I'm actually good friends with one of the owners and we often hang out after work, even though """hes way richer than me."""" You people are just pathetic and want other people's shit because you have low expectations for yourselves

being a middle man between people and a resource vital for living makes you a shithead who contributes nothing to society

why christfags act so un-christ like?

Can confirm. Still shitty retail tho

You could use that gay ass platitude to basically say that anything under the sun should be paid for by the government

Genuine question here. What is there to gain in vehemently defending billionaires? What makes you think that you aren't just another brick in the wall to them? If Jeff Bezos decided that for some reason he's going to destroy your life, there is NOTHING you could do to stop him. No one gets rich by playing fair, you either fuck over millions of people, or you get lucky. These "pull yourself by your bootstraps!" arguments are utterly retarded consideringn the america we live in today.

To reiterate, why do middle-class average joes HATE poor people but worship self-serving rich people?

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Not communistic enough. You are a danger to the state. To the gulag with you

>imagine a world where no one had to worry about where they go to sleep at night or making sure they have enough to eat and drink to survive

Damn, user. So are you admitting you and other middle-class people that try to do as many tax write-offs and tax deductions as you can are also exploiting the system and aren't playing by the rules? Why would you call them shitty for doing that when literally anybody that works a job does that?

Because middle class man who earned his job through nepotism thinks that if he can do it why can't other people.

Class cuckery is ingrained into american culture.
Courtesy of the worst religion in human history, Puritanism.

No you can't. Shelter is something you need to live, you shouldn't be able to own all the land in a city and be able to set the price for other people's survival.

stay in IT you fucking retard literally comfiest most retard proof job possible
I shitpost on Yea Forums all day at my job and occasionally tell the old farts at the office to turn their computer off and on again or reinstall adobe reader

because working class people don't get to lobby to our overwhelmingly right wing pro-corporate government to get laws changed in their favor to screw everyone else over
also literally every company breaks the rules behind the scenes. I guarantee at least 40% of corporations have some ENRON tier shit going down and they just haven't been caught or they've bribed the right people under the table to continue doing it.

Real question here. Why do we have to hate any class of people? Why do have to hate poor people and blame all their problems on them not trying hard enough, and why do we have to hate rich people by claiming they're literal demons who fuck over millions of people daily and are the source of all bad things in the world including poor people? What if, now stay with me, what if, the situation is more nuanced than that?

Even if the situation is more nuanced there's no fucking reason America should have the worst health care system in the first world.
shit that costs literally 30 dollars in South Korea costs over 3000 here.

>old person got rich
No shit retard. Old people could do fucking anything because it was easy not because of their work ethic.

They're making me do the same thing at the public library, except I have to push the self-checkout and electronic materials.

live in your car, pussy

t. commie tranny

That's actually illegal in most developed countries.

there is nothing more cucked than defending your serf status

South Korea is also inhabited by South Koreans, not niggers with 9 kids and no job, or tens of millions of illegals using their ER rooms
No, he got rich because he literally revolved his life around work and didn't spend time crying on an anime forum about needing government hand outs because life is too hard

And he was able to do that because back in the 1960s you could do that. Good luck starting your own anything in 2020.

That's a nice gut feeling you have there, user. I wonder if it's true, 40% you say? What if I told you that you're gonna find shitty people in all walks of life. Just like we've all had shitty coworkers that stole shit or lied to our boss about other employees or did scummy things, those kinds of people are also going to exist in the higher income brackets as well. That doesn't mean we should stereotype an entire group of people that way. Especially considering I highly doubt you've ever even talked to a real millionaire or billionaire before, you're just making assumptions based on what other middle-class people say.

Hey, I left college after I realized it was a waste of time and money and learned a trade. I even stopped renting and moved back home with my parents for years so I could save up cash, which I then used to buy a multi-family home that I now rent out to by buddy. Suck my ass, I don't owe you shit

Yes, thanks to the astronomical amount of taxes and overhead thanks to liberals. With that $15 minimum wage they're going to have to jack up everyone's pay, which could mean they all say fuck it and sell to some mult-national corporation.

Understanding how financials or politics work was one of the first things to go in destroying education in America. Its one reason why the great magical social health care system can't be talked about with the accompanying tax hike and potential long term savings without someone losing their shit or screaming commie.

didn't ask don't care plus you're a slumlord

he got rich in a completely different wildly favorable set of circumstances
I'm not here bragging my French Canadian immigrant grandparents bought a nice two story house in the 50s, when they bought that house it was cheap as fuck. When my parents bought their house in the 80s it was cheap as fuck.
they weren't dealing with the utter nonsense of paying 300,000+ for a one story home.

LOL

This is a government problem, not a billionaire problem. I also don't think it's fair to say America has the worst health care system. The quality itself is extremely good and beats the majority of other first-world countries, but the costs are very high because of it and it can be inaccessible to some.

Do you know why housing prices skyrocketed? Because the government started guaranteeing mortgages no questions asked.

user you're dumb as fuck. It is infinitely easier to self-start a business in 2020 than it was in the 1960s you literally have no idea what you're talking about. We have way more self-starters now than we did back then thanks to the internet.

>he literally revolved his life around work
He bought a fucking lathe and then bought a building somehow. What the fuck business can you start with low startup costs that can consistently generate profits to then buy a building? Shut the fuck up. All the easy shit is being done, there is no work ethic any more. What people need is connections, luck or extreme intelligence. Some faggot immigrant could never do it today and neither could any of the billionaires.

Dont quit a cushy government job for fagspot what the fuck is wrong with you

>This is a government problem, not a billionaire problem
it's a billionaire problem when billionaires are the ones profiting off of it and are constantly lobbying to make sure the course continues, and are even all teaming up to attempt to end the campaign of a progressive candidate wanting to change it.

also lmao the quality ain't shit. Japan, Korea, even Russia have similar quality care for literally thousands of percent less costs.
We're not getting 3000% quality for 3000% cost

Please, go to /pol/ if you want to talk about garbage. Thank you.

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you mean because developers don't want affordable housing lowering the value of their mcmansions

it's almost like when you let several generations of lawmakers have their greatest inspiration be Ayn Rand they do things that guarantee predatory wealth-seekers can steal the prosperity of the country

youtube.com/watch?v=Ooi7vNZUTIE

just walk in and give the manager a firm handshake son

can confirm this. i live alone, but i also dont have the benefit of shared income. i totaled my car last year and the payments aren't really a big deal. i even manage to save $200 or so every month. i also dont even make that much money, i'm at $17/hr working an ez customer service job and walk away with $1900-$2k every month

thinking your schooling can get you in is the only mistake you need to not get hired at a place like gamestop. sniveling cuck managers purposely choose idiots and girls so they will pose no threat to his comfy managerial position. a person like you would be a threat, and he would immediately be jealous

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How else are "developers" going to make money if they just dont build houses? Look at San Francisco for example. Literally thousands of acres able to get developed just sitting around because they nightmare of red tape and cost to the government regulations take away all incentives

>the bank made me take out that homeloan with my taco bell wages

There are plenty more reasons to vote for Bernie over Biden.

haha robert my man what are you doing at gamestop lol

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you can become an electrician's apprentice with just a HS diploma, that will eventually lead to a high salary after 5 years of training and schooling they pay for. You just wont be able to go to a university and play nerf battles inbetween a $400/hr credit hour geology class

That’s because you haven’t taken the time to learn any skills or develop yourself as a person. You don’t deserve 15/hr working at a GameStop you fuckin rube

You can start a company all you want. It'll be far less likely to succeed then it would have in 1960.

>want to strike it big by making a game
>no passion or skills outside of being a mediocre programmer

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bernie is rallying people just like trump did. instead of patriotism, he is rallying them on outrage culture against fellow americans. outrage and cancel culture is the name of the game today in every faucet of big media, and it is just so easy to get behind this sort of thing of you are a weak cuck-type.
you fags better not let him win. go and vote. communism is a road that only leads to untimely death, for in communism, you will turn into just another mouth to feed, and they would rather have you dead so they can keep more

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land and home owners have a financial incentive in stopping the construction of affordable homes

it is absolute nerd shit to think that the government, which has no reason to want you to not be housed, is making homes expensive while landlords, who profit from scarcity of cheap homes, are completely innocent

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Jfc

you are a massive fucking idiot. Land owners absolutely do want developers to move in, because land sitting around generates fuck all and costs a shit load in property taxes. It is so fucking obvious your only knowledge on these subjects is listening to some purple haired retard with a septum piercing

also landlords want development because when it stagnates, you again get San Francisco where homeless people and drug addicts are shitting all over the side walks and costing tons in damage, which lowers values. The only way they stay afloat is from having even bigger mentally ill uber liberals still moving their to get some of the lefty utopia which is actually a hellscape

I'll make this simple for you.
Imagine you own a block of houses that you rent out. What happens to your property values and income if cheap apartments are built one block over? Now, what happens to your property values and income if you use local politics to lobby against the use of land to create any cheap apartments at all?

>fellow american
i'd rather french kiss someone from wuhan than call the (((1%))) a fellow american

see
Look at Detroit. ALL housing prices plummeted because the lack of development and price of property taxes

>WAHHH why are people more successful than I am!!!

If you had that much money you would do everything you can to keep it, as does every one else.

>you again get San Francisco where homeless people and drug addicts are shitting all over the side walks
I pay the local city council to make a homeless shelter on the other side of town and I bribe the chief of police to enforce rough sleeping laws around my property
now everybody wants to live in my block and homelessness works in my favor

>enforce rough sleeping laws
???

Also that does nothing to change the fact that you cant use the subway without stepping on a hypodermic needle

Who do you think makes the rules that allows lobbying in the first place?
>are even all teaming up to attempt to end the campaign of a progressive candidate wanting to change it.
Get the fuck out of here with this conspiratorial bullshit. All the remaining democratic candidates barring Bloomberg would be the most progressive president we've had in history and they all support healthcare for all. You literally have no idea what's happening in the election, you just follow bernie.

source: my ass

>landlords protect against homelessness because they want competition
praise capitalism

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>Air Max

She's a keeper.

>bernie is rallying people just like trump did.
yeah, just look at all the success he's having at the polls right now... oh wait, biden is running circles around him.
americans don't want communism.

I like that these stupid lefty fucks don't even realise that giving money to poor people is essentially the same as giving it to the billionaires. What do they think these poor people are gonna do, make smart investments, informed purchases and hold? They're gonna go out and give near every last cent to Disney, Nike, McDonalds Walmart and all the other companies that can sell a name to women, minorities and other easily influenced demographics.
Of course these are the same dipshits who never question why these big capitalist companies are promoting their commie shit in the first place. Ya Trump is gonna be so great for these multinationals so they spend a bunch of resources to create propoganda against him, I mean, you gotta realise, roughly half the country voted for the man and these companies STILL feel it's cost effective to pick their side. They must be quaking in their boots at you, clearly.
Literally using retards as a medium to funnel resources from the pocket of the middle class into their coffers lmao.

according to some retarded niggers in this thread, allocating tax money to Fukwan so he can buy hot cheetos stimulates the economy

555-come-on-now

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We don't want communism, but we do want more progressive policies. The most important thing that we want though is a president that is able to work with Republicans to push these policies through, or at the very least, is able to work with other Democrats.

>but we do want more progressive policies.
Democrats are already alientating the youth with their white privilege and tranny bullshit. kill yourself.

Trihex has like 15 hours of footage of him and his ex-gamestop manager talking absolute shit about the company and why nobody should consider it as an opportunity. Meme streamer or not, that's a lot of fucking time spent ranting to disregard.

>35
>old
hmmm

I guess people with no power and people with all power really are the same, and in light of this obvious fact we should just paralyze and let billionaires keep owning everything

>We don't want communism, but we do want more progressive policies.
no, we want four more years of trump.

Nah, you're confusing the DNC with random sjw's on twitter. It's an important distinction, just like you shouldn't necessarily think the neo nazism and white nationalism on twitter is reflective of what the GOP is pushing.

Haha yes friend you really showed him with your superior understanding of economics and government :^) Now that we have established our credentials as intelligent whites, could I interest you in a fabulous new business opportunity? All you have to do is buy my products and I'll give you 5% cash back - and if you bring in your white friends, you'll make a cut of everything THEY buy. Be self-sufficient in less than a year! Whaddaya say, user? Wanna be my downline?

what the fuck are you even talking about retard? What does a pyramid scheme have to do with niggers and welfare?

No, Trump wants to abolish Obamacare and replace it with nothing, taking away the health insurance of millions of people that actually need it. Nobody wants this, we want a system that allows everyone to have accessible health care.

Not really, the "progressive" policies being pushed by the entire Democratic party are fucking retarded. Healthcare for everyone even illegals through medicare, "free" higher education, etc. are all disastrous plans

Trump has repeatedly said he want to create competition again in the healthcare industry, and Obama care has cost a fuckload of money just to insure a few million people.

Fine by me if it means whites get employed in their place. Any time I interact with an employed nigger, it takes 3-15x as long as it should. I wouldn't use self checkout if there were white cashiers.

private healthcare and exponentially growing higher education are proven disasters, while single payer and free education are proven to work globally

it only doesn't work like this in theory

What are some jobs that let me have long hair as a man? I live in Dublin, Ireland.

make sure to come back on election night when trump wins again so we can all see your meltdown.

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You're high out of your skull, AAA healthcare being provided by their employers wasn't just a preferred method for decades upon decades for no reason, and there's a reason why VA hospitals were made fun of as being rat infested government funded hell holes. The government guaranteeing college loans was what artificially raised the costs in the first place, ontop of this degrees are already becoming more and more invaluable. Opening the flood gates to an even higher threshold of graduates will make this situation worse. ONTOP of this, i find it amazing that the Democrats are simultaneously say we need to import migrants on order to take good paying trade jobs from retiring boomers while also telling college kids it's corporation's fault for stagnate wages. Single payer already failed in Vermont too, and every country with universal healthcare doesn't have tens of millions of niggers not contributing anything. It also sucks, like in Canada waiting YEARS to see a specialist.

go fuck yourself you retarded lying faggot

None of those are "white privilege and tranny bullshit" like you were trying to suggest though. Why do you think health care for all is bullshit? I agree that abolishing the entire private health care industry is not realistic like Bernie is suggesting, but adding a public option to Obamacare will give competition to the insurance companies which will make them lower their prices and also guarantee everyone health care. The illegals thing is a pretty nuanced point, so I don't blame you for thinking it, but basically it's more convenient for us to just treat them rather than waste time looking up the histories of every patient that needs critical attention.

Free higher education and loan forgiveness is dumb as fuck I agree, but that's really only pushed by the super progressives. Realistically, we want higher education to be accessible for everyone, not free, so we should try to provide more financial assistance to poorer families who struggle to afford the costly tuition.

>there's a reason why VA hospitals were made fun of as being rat infested government funded hell holes
that reason is austerity i.e. using failed budget cuts as an excuse to enact more budget cuts

>mfw its Biden & the blacks vs. Bernie & the hispanic + white bernie bro cucks

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Honestly, I don't care too much about the outcomes of these things because I'm well-off and largely unaffected by these policies. It's interesting to discuss the policies though, and I try to vote in ways that will help the most people. What makes you vote for Trump? Do you have any opinion on his Obamacare decisions or do you not really follow it that much?

>"sorry, the manager's not here. try tomorrow"
>tomorrow comes
>"sorry, the manager's not here. try tomorrow"
>tomorrow comes
>"sorry, the manager's not here. try tomorrow"
>tomorrow comes
>"sorry, the manager's not here. try tomorrow"
>tomorrow comes
>"sorry, the manager's not here. try tomorrow"
>tomorrow comes
>"we're not hiring"

Repeat 7 times. Still jobless.

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no, the reason is corruption and incompetence, which are both inevitable with big government:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Health_Administration_scandal_of_2014

You cant really create competition by artificially propping it up through tax money. If that's all is being used, tax money is not absolute, which will basically mean that EVERYONE across the board will be reduced to having the same quality healthcare as the lowest common denomenator, which fucking sucks if you actually are middle class or upper middle class.
>we want higher education to be accessible for everyone,

NO. This type of thinking is what made college a nightmare to begin with. I don't know if you are all kids who haven;t gone to a university, but as someone who went to college I can easily tell you that most of it is fucking worthless. 3 hour lectures on geology even though it has nothing to do with what you're interested in which is mandatory on order to get a degree. Most of it is fuckin useless.

Literally EVERYTHING the government funds sucks ass. These niggers can't even allocate tens of billions of dollars to fix potholes in the roads, yet you expect the braniacs that run the government will be able to work out healthcare just fine

and never with big business, whom you can always trust with your profits

try finding a local business. corporate is an absolute shitfest

Roads were fine. Problem came in is that cars got more efficient and other shit in the budget got more expensive. As a result amount of money pulled in from gas tax dropped more and more and the things congress could agree on became less and less.

As for healthcare, what would happen to it if the gov fully stepped in would be more reflective of what happened to college education. But hey maybe Bernie has keiku for that too.

>Roads were fine

Not in my state, and the public unions in charge of this shit got caught using sanded down concrete and had to redo a bunch of shit

Gee Rob, why does the job market let you have TWO jobs? I'm 24 and I haven't even gotten one.

absolutely fucking based

With a public option, we'd still have private insurance though, so even if the public option is low quality, which it will be, you still have the option of paying for private insurance like you've always done. The difference is that people that can't afford private insurance or think it's overpriced will be able to fall back on the government option and not be left with nothing.

>Most of it is fuckin useless.
Lol, as someone with a comp sci degree, I can definitely understand why someone would think this. The experience itself is pretty lackluster, but what you're really paying for is the degree, which gives you access to higher paying jobs. Tons of studies have shown that on average people with degrees will earn 40% more than people that didn't do any college. Not sure what this has to do with accessibility of higher education though. I think if a poor person really wanted to go to medical school and become a doctor, they should be able to follow some path to realistically get there.

>What makes you vote for Trump?
i'm kind of a paleocon, so i agree with trump's views on trade, immigration, foreign policy and big government. the left becomes more insane by the year, and the gop establishment cares more about their donors and their beltway dinner parties than their constituents.

So you want to increase the taxes on everyone to pay for shitty quality care as a safety net, and then expect people to then pay more just to get the same private insurance that they were happy with prior? Like when king nigger told a bold faced lie like, "You can keep your own plan if you want"?

>ons of studies have shown that on average people with degrees will earn 40% more than people that didn't do any college

Most of those studies come from the universities themselves.

>I think if a poor person really wanted to go to medical school and become a doctor, they should be able to follow some path to realistically get there.

This is always the nice fuzzy dream the politicians like to use to sell the idea, but in reality you're just going to get tens of millions of more B average students thinking they are going to go work for nike if they get a marketing degree from a state school.

2013 job
>get trained
>flexible hours
>always steady, never get hours dropped
>schedule never changes
>if someone no call no shows twice they're fired
>forced to take breaks, no matter what

2020 jobs
>nobody wants to train you
>schedule changes three times last minute
>no one calls you when it's changed so you miss a work day or two
>lunch breaks are looked down on but you can take as many smoke breaks as you want whenever you want
>always called in for shifts ranging from 3 hours to 14 hours depending on what happens that day
>that one person who disappeared for two weeks, comes back, doesn't say anything and still works there

i'll just stick to entrepreneur work

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just work in a factory or something dude. retail is the most degrading job on earth. people treat you like your lower than dirt. even prostitutes get better treatment.

>fellow americans
billionaires are not americans, just look at where their bank accounts are.

gotta love bernie voters lecturing us on who "real americans" are while supporting a candidate who hates america.

america hasn't been good in decades

>So you want to increase the taxes on everyone to pay for shitty quality care as a safety net, and then expect people to then pay more just to get the same private insurance that they were happy with prior?
Not exactly, there will be an influx of people that will drop their shitty overpriced private insurance and move over to the free public option. The private insurance companies will lose customers and have to compete with this free public option by lowering their prices to something more reasonable. So even if you stay on your insurance, you'll pay less/get more services out of it.

>Most of those studies come from the universities themselves.
Are you trying to imply that there is some conspiracy and all these studies are completely fake and trying to push a false narrative? And this is based not on any real evidence or investigation, just that some of them were done by universities? That's too far out there for me to believe, user. There is very little opposition to these studies, I think they're fine.

>This is always the nice fuzzy dream the politicians like to use to sell the idea, but in reality you're just going to get tens of millions of more B average students thinking they are going to go work for nike if they get a marketing degree from a state school.
Yes, it's good for our economy if we allow more people to be able to go to college and get high skill jobs, even if it's marketing jobs. We should try and make it accessible enough to where anyone can find a way to pay for it if they want to go.

if america to you is corporations hoarding wealth and people going hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt over life-saving medical procedures then you can get fucking bent

Trump hasn't made America great again, yet, but give him 4 more years and it will surely happen, r-right guys?

>the only bad experiences I had were with customers
That's pretty much a given

Almost a century. Only two more decades.

don't worry robert i will buy a copy of the game. and while we're at it i'll take a large popcorn and a large order of crab legs.

Ah yes, I forgot all bernie bros are economical titans gifted in their financial knowledge of how rich people manage their money. Yes, you are correct, corporations and billionaires just have all their wealth sitting in a savings account doing nothing. You really know a lot about the business world, user.

Based, eat the rich.
literal cuck, you will never, ever be rich

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youtube.com/watch?v=B4y48CBEQso

I wonder how pissed /pol/ and /biz/ was on this particular scene.

>shitty overpriced private insurance and move over to the free public option.

This is exactly what Obamacare was supposed to do in the fucking first place before costing trillions of dollars to be a failure

>Are you trying to imply that there is some conspiracy and all these studies are completely fake and trying to push a false narrative?

You mean a university wouldn't lie about the worthiness of degree?

>Yes, it's good for our economy if we allow more people to be able to go to college and get high skill jobs, even if it's marketing jobs. We should try and make it accessible enough to where anyone can find a way to pay for it if they want to go.

Degrees are already becoming more and more worthless you dumb fuck. We already have people with "degrees in "Art, Psychology, marketing, business, etc" and they're all waiting tables. Increasing these numbers ten fold isn't going to do fucking anything positive

The same fucking thing happens in socialized countries. It's called rationing, and if the government doesn't think you need a service they will deny you it

God damnit I thought this was going to be a fun Robert/Copy that thread. Fuck this board, it can't even funpost right.

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Only Yea Forums can deliver on the former.

america's far better than the third-world shitholes like cuba and nicaragua that bernie loves.

>shit is better than shit
ok

>user
>works in IT
>adobe reader
Hey don't I know you from somewhere guy?

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america to me is a first-world country, not a communist shithole.

and that's a good thing
imagine defending wagies unironically
this is how cucked conservautists have made 4channel.org in the current year of our lord 20202020202020

user what the fuck is the matter with you

if you're trolling, stop, because it's working

>He just wants to take it away from everyone else who has one so that everyone gets to be equally miserable.

Good. We can all suffer. motherfuckers

>This is exactly what Obamacare was supposed to do in the fucking first place
Not at all. The ACA is not a public option and doesn't offer competition because it doesn't offer alternative care. All it did was force private health insurance companies not to drop people with pre-existing conditions and fuck them over. It also subsidized the cost of the private insurance for low-income families so they could more easily afford it. It's a completely different thing than what I was talking about before.

>Degrees are already becoming more and more worthless you dumb fuck.
I feel like your personal experience with college is heavily influencing your opinion on this. Assuming you're not majoring in something retarded like Gender Studies, degrees are still money-making machines and any decent job will require one.

youtube.com/watch?v=-faIv0q6aUU

Are you retarded?
If inflation comes your 15 $ is less worth than 2 $ right now.

Why are retards like you too stupid to understand the difference between nominal and relative prices? Bernie is literally scamming you and you don't even understand why.

Also Bernie has done zero in life. Don't trust an old con artist who got rich by scamming the poor.

the gov't simply pays for things or doesn't based on whether the doctor says you need it. the doctor is the one you are disagreeing with and even when you are paying for visits with your own money they still have the last say in whether you can receive certain tests or treatments. you can be paying them millions and still don't have any authority over how they use their privately owned resources.

>Not at all. The ACA is not a public option
obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-and-the-public-option/

>I feel like your personal experience with college is heavily influencing your opinion on this
theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/04/53-of-recent-college-grads-are-jobless-or-underemployed-how/256237/

This is literally a common argument being made among college grad across the nation. They get out of school with a 4 year degree and there aren't any jobs for them

Are you okay, user? All I did was correct that user who seemed to be implying Bernie was the only one pushing for a $15 minimum wage. I never took a position of the matter in my post. Regardless, if I were to take a position on this I would research what the leading economists say about it, rather than a Yea Forumsirgin.

thats not how it works at all, especially if you come down with some rare form of sickness that requires multiple tests on order to deduce whats wrong

Yeah. You're my wife's son

>IT"S MA"AM!! MA"AM!!

Lmfao what makes you think you would keep your job if the minimum wage raises to 15 dollars an hour? You would get fired instantly and only people with years experience would actually stay. Your labor is not worth 15 dollars an hour.

I love how people think that if it was raised their jobs wouldn't immediately be jeopardized.

.......
The fuck is this?

>obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-and-the-public-option/
user, this is just an article explain why adding a public option would be great for our nation. Like I said before, obamacare doesn't have a public option right now, but it would be great if we added one.

>theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/04/53-of-recent-college-grads-are-jobless-or-underemployed-how/256237/
This article is 8 years old, almost a decade. The job market is really good right now.

That's reversed for me

>2013 job would change my schedule last minute, say 25 hours a week is full time, schedule me for 7+ days work in a row and other shit
>have a set schedule at my 2020 job

Buying a house is not a solution unless you plan on living there for 5+ years and its a reasonably affordable area.

see I mentioned somewhere else in this thread that it could very well hurt small businesses that already struggle to pay their employees, but it's also worth considering that we have raised the minimum wage many times in the past and it has had positive results.

Your insurance is fucking terrible then. Its not hard to get a plan with like a 2k yeaely maximum.

Technically? Yeah actually. Everywhere else already gets cut. Its called being efficient. Most costs for most businessed are fixed, the buggest variable costs, by far, for virtually wvery business, is employees.

medium.com/content-curation-official-guide/decreasing-value-of-university-degrees-2f831c4fd625

Heres another one from 2016 expressing the same sentiments. From the 90s until now only a small percentage of the middle class had a college degree.This is happening in other countries too with socialized education, where getting a degree is just the start, then you have to go through internships and a bunch of bullshit right after

This. Most business operate on a thing profit margin as well.

>billionaires and boot lickers when they hear the Bernie Train coming

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Any place that already has a 15 dollar minimum wage is unlivable on 40 hours a week without assistance. Do you think 2400 before taxes is enough to live decently in a place where a basic bitch studio is 1200+ a month? Becuase if you do you arent capable of doing math.

Bernies literally getting BTFO as we speak, user

lol, what "bernie train"? he's not winning the nomination. america doesn't want communism.

Regardless concerning all the Florida spics who came off the boat he wouldn't win either way

You think I wouldn't notice? MOOOOOOOOOODS

Hey Robert just some crablegs today

But user, I like the thought of Americans killing each other.

I wish you would do it more.

I cant help but wonder how much of this is because degrees are less valued in general and how much is because people go to college for masters in political science and other joke degrees.

And that's a good thing!

its literally just as simple as supply and demand. There is only so much "work" for people with a business degree, or a marketing degree, etc. Higher education has it's values in math and science, law, medical fields.. but thats about it. And not everyone is capable of learning astro physics. Id bet atleast 50% of college kids in school right now would be much better off if they learned to dry a hi-low at age 18 and just worked rather than studied

Gamestop is super high pressure and not a very good workplace, the benefits suck, but at least they don't pay you on their shitty credit card anymore.
As I TRY to remember to do, here's a video talking about their horseshit, it's mostly through a lens of the late 00s rather than modern times but it's just as relevant, frankly.
youtube.com/watch?v=nS_s9gyjYcQ

Of note, you should expect entirely to be loomed over if your store is a "prestige" store, meaning you have 4% followup on those shitty surveys, and they're like 95%+ positive (IE all 5star).

t. regional manager, get out now user the ship's sinking.

Here's an article from last year that analyzed the tuition and time cost with what you're expected to earn. thebalance.com/how-much-college-costs-1289838

The official U.S. Bureau of Labor and Statistics recorded the average incomes of everyone and the level of education they had last year.
bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm

Apparently the difference in earnings between a bachelors and a high school diploma is at a record high right now.

One thing I will agree with you from your article though is that there are definitely more ways now to get good jobs without needing a degree. There are a lot fields that have paths where you don't need to go to college in order to learn the skills and land a god-tier job. Computer Science and Art are some of these fields.

just don't buy into their subscription/card shit, ignore used games and never sell your old games to them

No it didn't, it was raised but that doesn't mean the same thing would happen today. Big corporations are tricking goys into voting against their best interests, small businesses will die as they can't afford it, corporations like Amazon will thrive because they can and they will fire most of their employees anyway and replace them with automation.

It's a trick.

>working for gamestop
I couldn't handle the stress of having to worry about not having a job the next day because the company went under

I didn't say *all* degrees are worthless, and sure if you compile *all* the graduates within a degree, they are going to earn more. That doesn't mean someone with a bachelors in marketing is going to have the same job offers or income than someone with a bachelors in mechanical engineering.

all 'eating the rich' does is crash the economy and get millions of people killed you fucking degenerate

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They're edible, just like government officials.

This world needs to be reset.

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If you're a customer, yeah, they're fine, no worse than walmart or target, but as a worker it's one of the worst places I've ever worked. You'll unironically get treated better at mcdonalds. Only reason I'm still with them is because my store got robbed so fucking frequently I was eventually the only one left because everyone else was worried about getting shot or stabbed, and working as the manager there I gave a shit about the people that came to visit instead of just hiring thots and, well, yeah. It's a bad place to work, is my point.

>working at a company that's on the verge of total bankruptcy

Enjoy this year I guess. I don't give them much longer before they bite the bullet. Nearly every location near me shut down last year.

Absolutely. A college degree is an investment, and if you make a poor investment, you're going to lose money in the long run. A lot of kids right out of high school don't seriously think about why they're going to college and just do it because that's what everyone else does. On average, it works out for people, but there are definitely some people that get fucked and learn that they don't actually want to work the types of jobs their degree gives them access to.

Reminder that shit like this is why gamestop is failing, people don't want to go because they don't like being harassed by the employees
Anybody blaming the internet is retarded

gonna pick up some mcdonalds anyone want anything?

Is that a towel, I would totally get some sort of MLP beach towel if it used one of the cool giant dragon designs

Not an american but I think bernie does have a lot of good ideas
But he also wants to legalize weed which which is 100% a dealbreaker, I would never vote for him
Yes, in this area the free market has clearly fucking failed

It’s amazing how much you faggots bitch about the cops and military while simultaneously worshipping the government and assume they will do the morally righteous thing when you hand them even more power.

That's most corporate jobs these days honestly. Even gas stations are starting to do forced memberships and phone numbers.

>Housing is a human right
You have every right to pursue housing however you can’t force people to pay for your house. Unless you have no qualms with slavery.

what happened to your sick gains robbie

literally why would anyone care about whether weed is legal besides some white mom with a 16 year old son

>Yes, in this area the free market has clearly fucking failed

Housing has been completely ass raped with over-regulation

Kick out.
Buy goods, or fuck off.

See I've noticed the opposite, a lot of the gas stations and stores near me that used to do memberships and reward programs dropped them because 99% of people just never fucking bothered.

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>communism
>a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.
>Socialism
>a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
>Democratic socialism
>Democratic socialism is a political philosophy supporting political democracy within a socially owned economy with a particular emphasis on workers' self-management and democratic control of economic institutions within a market socialist economy or some form of a decentralised planned socialist economy.
Keep saying Bernie wants communism, you clearly don't know what it means faggot

Man I just don't want to work at all.

why should anyone work at gamestop if they dont pay enough for a single adult to live on?

you used to be able to raise an entire family on a single wage from any fulltime job.
I dont like bernie because he's a globalist kike but come the fuck on dude, everyone who works full time should get a liveable wage otherwise that job doesnt deserve to exist and the company deserves to go bankrupt

bernie is a communist who routinely praises communist dictators like fidel castro.

>land and home owners have a financial incentive in mass immigration to keep homes in high demand
why dont leftists ever talk about this?

why is bernie bad?

gamestop is still around? lmao

not even close to being close to true

>allocating tax money to Fukwan so he can buy hot cheetos stimulates the economy
it does because your money is taken resulting in you having less leftover money to save, and given to fukwan who will buy products and services with your money, you still have to buy products and services so now the companies are just getting more of your money through a proxy of fukwan.

It doesnt help you or any of the normal people at all, but it helps the """economy""" alot

>We don't want communism, but we do want more progressive policies.
At this point I want unironic facism and all progressives being killed

>Just have better credit
>Just buy a house
>Just don't be poor

you're literally a walking meme

>while single payer and free education are proven to work globally
name one country that provides free healthcare and education to ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

If only that were the case here.

who do i vote for that will allow me to do literally nothing for the next 50 years

>it's more convenient for us to just treat them
If we're going for convenient and efficient then the most effective way is shooting anyone illegally crossing the border

How do I get a job, bros? I've applied to literally everything on indeed and job sites every day for the last 3 months and never received so much as a response. Only a few even bother telling me I haven't been selected for the next step of the process either. Most of these jobs are all entry level positions too.

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>just pay for healthcare twice goy
first through your taxes and then again for the actually good option

Actual slumlord here, fuck off. Win in court all the time against you cunts.

Could just say you can't read

>billionaires are not americans
true, jews have no national allegencies other than to their own state of israel

$15/hour isn't even a lot, especially with today's productivity levels. people would lose their jobs if employers had to pay that? that's a good thing -- humans shouldn't be working these soulless robot jobs to begin with. businesses that would fail if they had to pay a "fair" price (it's still not even close to fair -- should be much higher, which makes this tired conversation even more laughable) deserve to go under. this is an inevitability we're heading towards with automation, and we'll reach a point where we'll have to choose as a society whether to guarantee a certain income to people or go down a much bleaker, darker road :-) america doesn't even have universal healthcare; which path do you think they'll take?

retard that means there will be more homeless.

>waifu
Your waifu got CHEESED and gave birth to a baby in the ending of the show.

How old are you? I'm 25 and realized once I hit 23 that it was pointless trying since I'd never had one.

My recommendation is to find a temp agency and start there, they're paid to get you into places that need workers, so at the very least you get experience, and probably mediocre pay without benefits, but money's money.

And the rich don't either?

the rich want to ethnically replace my people in our homeland
fuck the rich, we should eat them

>doom westcucks are forced to shill to sell their doom kusoge
lmao

what country

Bernie doesnt even pay his own employees $15

26 but I've had experience at a few administrative places and retail. I had a temp agency hook me up with a job last year but the contract ended prematurely and they've never contacted me since aside from call centers once in a while.

if you have no experience and your resume uses a bunch of stupid generic or verbose garbage then into the trash it goes

>Your labor is not worth 15 dollars an hour.
means we would get less immigration then, if they cant underpay people.

minimum wage increase is a great facist policy

Bernie is literally jewish

I've heard that if you don't have the keywords that online applications list, like 80 - 90% of the phrases they use, their software literally tosses your resume immediately.

I don't understand
Australia has a reasonable minimum wage and there are small businesses everywhere
Australia has no guns and there are very few shootings
Australia has bulk billed medicare and no one gets fucked by the healthcare system
Why can't americlaps do any of this right?

Universal healthcare is retarded user. I'm sorry but Canada has terrible healthcare, privatization is the only way that we can assure those with resources can get proper health care. Once we universalize health care people will get sub optimal care because instead of filling the gaps on low income people and giving them services like medicare, everyone will be getting the same allocation of resources. It doesn't work, it never will.

And yes 15 dollars an hour isn't even a lot, all that would though is harm small business and bolster corporations. They WILL let go the majority of their work force and gate off those jobs to entry level workers and those without experience. Unemployment would go up because of it and thus more people relying on government benefits to supplant their income. It will hurt us and our ability to actually be entrepreneurs.

Trust me, your minimum wage job isn't worth 15 dollars an hour, Employers know this, and so should you. The free market always dictates how much your time and skills are worth. If it is forced then you will lose your job guaranteed.

Only big corporations like amazon can pay it and they won't because it's a trick to get people to lessen their freedoms and rely on government and corporations for employment. It will backfire, and people will be fucked.

No it isn't, and no it wouldn't decrease immigration. As people would just privatize their businesses and hire more undocumented workers who will work for less. It's a win win for corporations and big business. It's a lose for the common man.

>The girl that works here has like 100
100 what?

what about the people who can't afford healthcare then? do you want the people who can't to get sick or even die?

US doesn't have a nanny state that bans everything when their fee-fees are hurt

England

>As people would just privatize their businesses and hire more undocumented workers
which is already illegal and should be punished severely

anyone hiring illegals so they can pay less should go to prison simple as

dicks

why can't ausfalians keep their country from burning lmfao

Health care is very affordable, all you need to do is buy insurance. It's like 100 dollars a month for good premiums, if you can't even invest that much in your own health then you don't deserve health care.

In universal healthcare people will have to wait for elective surgeries and treatments that aren't immediately life threatening. Sometimes for months. In canada an old woman broke her back and was sitting in a hallway for 8 hours without any care. Most people in that situation fly here to get health care because they would rather pay than wait. You wouldn't get the magical health care that you think you would get under universal healthcare. We don't have the infrastructure or resources available to give everyone even sub-optimal care at this point. So what would happen is that even less people would get proper care and health outcomes would decrease.

Then what was the point of increasing the wages? It would still happen and there wouldn't be a damn thing you could do about it. They would just pay these people cash and you would get replaced regardless. There would just be more people without jobs and you wouldn't have one. You would rely on welfare for basic needs because the unemployment rate would skyrocket. You would never get a minimum wage job again. You realize this right?

>Australia has no guns
>Australia is also being actively colonized by the Chinese
hmmmm

>so that everyone gets to be equally miserable
wtf I love Bernie now

>everyone gets to be equally miserable.
Except for the party leaders. This is how socialism always works.

>Then what was the point of increasing the wages?
to decrease LEGAL IMMIGRATION, legal immigration will go down because companies dont want them if they have to pay them $15
and anyone Hiring ILLEGALS should just be put in prison

Where is she hiding them.

>need to push doom eternal preorders
>need to push preorders
Is this your first retail job? It's full of corporate fuckery like that. And preorders are just the tip of the iceberg.

>america to me is a first-world country

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No actually, legal immigration would increase and these people would work 10x harder than you and be grateful as fuck for the opportunity. Trust me they will choose pajeets over you every single time. Americans aren't hard workers in the minimum wage sector. You are replaceable and you would be replaced.

>There would just be more people without jobs
No there wouldn't because we'll deport their asses. If you take 30 million people out of the job market, the businesses are going to feel the squeeze from no longer being able to hire whoever they want and will be forced to offer better wages to try and get who they can. It's supply and demand, if you greatly decrease the supply of workers then the workers that are still around have much more bargaining power.

>Universal healthcare
If its a human right, you can simply be denied your rights if the government chooses

news.sky.com/story/nhs-staff-can-refuse-to-treat-racist-or-sexist-patients-under-new-rules-11937175

>is very affordable
tell that to the millions of americans.
cnbc.com/2018/11/29/over-half-of-americans-delay-health-care-becasue-they-cant-afford-it.html

pretty impressive how literally 0 statements you made are true. also canada is obviously not the only other country with universal healthcare (nice cherrypick tho), but even their system is much better than the bloated, expensive, inefficient, amoral mess we have here

"the free market" isn't dictating much at all in america. america is not an example of a healthy capitalist society.

you realize increasing minimum wage is something we've already done, right?

wait a minute, are you serious? am i even talking to an american? you think health insurance is $100 a month?? "all you need to do is buy insurance" man you are absolutely delusional

I too saw those twitter posts

>100 dollars a month
if it's just you. If you've got a family you're probably looking at around $500/month. and if you're only making like 30-40k a year that shit is steep.

Why are Americans the only retards to vote against their own personal financial interests?

>he doesn't know the definition of first-world country

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and if its "universal" then they will deny people service for "racism and sexism" like in the uk

The average, working class person wants there to stop being illegal workers coming into the country because they can't compete with someone who's willing to work for less than what you're legally allowed to be paid.

>he doesnt know that the definitions were changed after the cold war
Do you think switzerland is a thirdworld country you moron?

Immigrants are harder workers and don't unionize or complain. Why would they be hired less again? It would increase, the entire entry level job sector would be nonwhite in 5 years tops. Americans wouldn't get shit. Companies want this to happen, remember that.

That's europe, and besides how would people even tell you are racist, and how would this change in universal health care again? It wouldn't, it would be the same shit and it would give them more power to do so as people would have no choice in health care options. Under privatized health care you could simply not use those services and elect to go to a different hospital.

>over half of americans

Ok they delay it because most people that are young aren't insured because they feel they don't need it. Remember it's always the uninsured that complain.

Of course it is, but the alternative is your family won't be getting health care if it's non-life threatening. Your taxes would increase by 50% and you would still be paying those costs even if you aren't utilizing health care services at that time. It's still a lose lose scenario.

good. humanity is scum

>NOOOOOOOOOO WTF, YOU CAN'T JUST CALL A COUNTRY THAT DOESN'T FULLY SUBSIDIZE MY LAZY NEET LIFESTYLE "FIRST-WORLD"!

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how is open borders like the left want in the average americans interest when it destroys wages, fucks with house prices and destroys the environment?

You got to try it your way and it turns out the only trickling down that happened was billionaire cum off your lip, if our way fucks everything up you can laugh at us, deal?

he wants the rich to pay taxes now they're crying

it's mostly, paradoxically the poorer ones.

the red scare, inherent and irrational distrust of government (actually helpful in some cases, but is mostly just a hurdle now -- primed to take corporate dick), "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" mentality, people seeing their fellow man as an enemy/competitor, anti-intellectualism/low education (more susceptible to the snake oil salesman conservatives pretending to be on their side)

think i've hit all the main reasons

>not wanting communism means you're a corporate bootlicker
communism never works and especially will never work in america.

Switzerland is an industrialized capitalist country you silly negro

>Immigrants are harder workers and don't unionize or complain.
Because they're under constant threat of what will happen if they do so.
>Why would they be hired less again?
Because they won't be around to be hired. You can't hire immigrants if the country doesn't let in immigrants.
>Companies want this to happen, remember that.
Yes and any company that outsources should be so heavily tariffed and penalized that it won't be economically viable for them to do business outside of the US. And if you hire immigrants then you have your business license taken away.

The dumb niggers among us don't think about that shit, only the rudimentary thought connections they are capable of and those say Biden was Obama's friend.

temporarily embarrassed millionaire syndrome

Bernie Sanders wants everyone that isn't Bernie Sanders to pay taxes. Notice he keeps revising his approach the richer he gets.

>Under privatized health care you could simply not use those services and elect to go to a different hospital.
Thats my point

Under "universal" healthcare you will be denied service based on your politics
under private healthcare you can choose someone who wont deny you what you've paid for

they could easily tell if most people are "racist or sexist" by looking on their social media or more likely having a computer scan for keywords like "nigger", "faggot", "MAGA" to see if you are a wrong thinker

In europe they actually have police officers whos job is to browse social media looking for "hate speech"

>NOOOOO HOW DARE YOU NIGGERS NOT VOTE FOR MUH SOCIALIST JEW

If you're on any social media you're a retard anyway.

>Yes and any company that outsources should be so heavily tariffed and penalized that it won't be economically viable for them to do business outside of the US.
oh please lets just go super facist already and declare anyone who moves their buisness and assets out of the country as an economic terrorists and an enemy of state, then drone strike them like we do to the muslim terrorists

So is he covering his ass or taxing everyone over 29,000 annual income? You media kikes can't stick to one gaslight

>most people that are young aren't insured because they feel they don't need it most people that are young aren't insured because they feel they don't need it.
many are old too.

You're absolutely right. Didn't see you were in favor for privatized health care.

If bernie won why would you think immigrants wouldn't be coming in? What's the logic here? He's a leftist nut, even biden wants 15 dollars an hour and less lax immigration.

Now you're speaking my language.

and going by cold war definitions switzerland would be third world, since they sided neither with the us or the ussr

If you are old and uninsured then that's kinda your problem isn't it?

>don't get insurance when you are at the age of high risk and multiple comorbidities
>NOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS OUT OF POCKET, WTF YOU SHOULD GIVE IT TO ME FOR FREE

bernie himself is a millionaire and takes plenty of deductions to lower his taxes as much as possible - including deductions he's criticized in the past:

nationalreview.com/2016/04/bernie-sanders-tax-returns-reveal-hypocrisy/

"rules for thee, not for me" is the democrats' motto for a reason.

Yea Forums is social media.

>If bernie won why would you think immigrants wouldn't be coming in?
I don't want Bernie, I want a complete anti-immigration president. Why did you assume I want Bernie? I don't want legal OR illegal immigration,I want fucking nobody to get in, immigration should be at ZERO. Not net zero, actual zero.

Fuck off, dickhead. Here's another (You). Stupid faggot.

Yes, how dare they. They're going to heem and haw like uppity niggers for another 4 years when Trump stomps Biden because Biden's going to play him at his own game and fail miserably and it'll be entirely on them.

We may be getting our wish regardless with corona virus. If we are smart we would stop all immigration right now and keep it that way till we get a handle on this.

do you guys think we should have to pay for K-12 education? why do we only have to pay for college? seems kinda socialist. do you guys have a problem with cops, firefighters, et al. providing services without collecting payment up front / being tax-funded? do you like having roads? why is it only certain examples of socialism you have a problem with

>everyone over 29,000 annual income
I had no idea it was that bad. What the fuck is he thinking? Oh wait, he wants people dependent on government.

if you have a mobile phone number and some of the people that have your number in their phone then facebook has a profile on you even if you dont have an account

Immigrants won't be getting jobs if businesses can't exploit them for below-minimum

health insurance isn't easy to get either, at least for the poor.

If we were smart the world would have no problems

are you pretending medicare doesn't exist now?

It's not the 80s anymore.

Sorry but preventing contagion is racist and not allowed.

Trump would win regardless if bernie was chosen. just wanted to see that jew get btfo.

Realistically how many businesses are going to hire immigrants if they have to pay them the same as citizens and under the same working conditions? Yeah they work harder but realistically the company isn't saving money anyway.

you fool. We should be opting for WHITE only immigration. just like in the past.

>some of the people that have your number in their phone
>implying
Trump already tried a travel ban but everyone screamed racism.

That's where you're wrong, we should just watch. It'll kill them off long before it does us.

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Bernie doesn't get dragged into Don's shit nearly as well as any of the other Dems and can be just as boisterous, he would give him the best run out of any of them, and if you really want to see Bernie get it then have him be elected and watch the Israelites trip over themselves to assassinate him.

Youre wrong, as immigrants in their eyes would be worth the investment because they would be loyal and grateful for the opportunity.

The conversation was about uninsured people.

kek, it's almost like they want this to spread

Have you guys watched the deus ex intro recently? This shit is spooky boys.

youtube.com/watch?v=feY5KhdXsUQ&t=90s

>Realistically how many businesses are going to hire immigrants if they have to pay them the same as citizens and under the same working conditions?
None

>Oh wait, he wants people dependent on government.
bingo. this is why leftists are retarded for thinking the government has their best financial interests at heart. they'd rather have you be poor and on welfare so they can make you (and your vote) dependent on them. career politicians only care about themselves.

Fuck that, with all the leftist intellectual contagion coming from europe? Too risky, we should seal outselves off from the outside world like Sakoku-era Japan. No one gets in or out, and the policy for either is death.

yea i prefer the corporate dick, myself, as well

Because he has tons of corporate dark money donors and practices all the same scummy tactics other rich people practice to not have to pay into the system. He just wants control he doesnt give a shit about anyone but bernie

>can be just as boisterous
But he won't be.
seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/black-lives-matter-protesters-shut-down-bernie-sanders-rally/

All of them

They are losing money by hiring millenials who whine on twitter everyday about living wage. These people are socialists who think all employers are the equivalent of the SS. If I was an employer I would gladly hire a polish, indian, chinese immigrant as I know they would work hard and come to work with a smile on their face. They would end up losing money hiring woketards as their productivity would be less than half of chang or pajeet who need to feed their families.

bernie lost to fucking hillary. I have no doubt that trump would destroy him.

lmao at all these seething bernouts

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not him but
or we just deport the non whites
we dont need white immigration

why do we need to increase population size every single year just to please corporate overlords?

just get rid of the non whites

I'd rather have corporations that are bound by the rules of the free market than governments turning our lives into a nanny state where we have to wait in line to suck on the tit of prosperity. If we allow them to increase the wages our sovereignty as a nation is done. We are slaves to the government and they will use it against us.

No, Bernie lost to the entire DNC and every media outlet blacklisting his progress. You have to really think to yourself why the Democrats and Republicans are both so frightened of him.

Please go there you retarded niggerfaggots

bernie is a communist, and not even good at hiding it. he thinks it's a good idea to praise castro on national tv. the idea of him ever winning a presidential election is laughable. he would be another goldwater/mcgovern/mondale.

imagine the shitstorm when it spreads to africa where they dont even have hospitals

>If I was an employer I would gladly hire a polish, indian, chinese immigrant
Your business license isn't going to be around long.

so do those career politicians you idolize.

at least keep indians and chinese.

>They are losing money by hiring millenials who whine on twitter everyday about living wage.
and they would lose more money by lobbying politicians to increase immigration rates for people they have to pay $15 to regardless

I mean you say that but even when there was the big ebola outbreak in 2016 it only killed like 10k people.

in your butt

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>If we allow them to increase the wages our sovereignty as a nation is done.
By that logic it's gone already anyway because Bush raised the minimum wage.

God forbid he not just shit out a pre-rendered insincere word salad for PR. Do you even understand the context of his quote? Of course you don't, you're literally spouting the shit he was calling out against

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then what are we arguing about? isn't Muh Free Market what we already have? shouldn't everything be good?

bernie was never seriously vetted by the media that entire election. he was given the kid-glove treatment despite being a communist. it's hilarious how people think the media has ever been biased AGAINST a democrat in recent memory.
bernie lost because normal people don't want communism and the only voting his supporters know how to do is downvoting on reddit.

ebola is spread by blood contact
corona is basically airborne

yeah, he's very sincere in his support for third-world communist dictators. and berniebronies wonder why normal people won't vote for him.

>I'd rather have corporations that are bound by the rules of the free market
We don't have that anyway faggot. Government and business goes hand in hand in America, that's why we have things like monopolies which can only exist when government says that rules apply to your competitors but not to you.

They tried to vet Bernie and failed because there's nothing to vet, he's been a "crackpot" senator spouting the same things his entire career.

the retards you're describing who shit their pants and foam at the mouth at the word "communism" were never voting for him, anyway. bernie won't get the nom because he's too scary to the establishment. nah, what we need is another do-nothing, milquetoast coward like biden. thank you DNC

Realistically all someone had to ask on stage was
>Bernie, you've been the senator of your state since the 1970s. It's one of the strongest Democrat supermajority states in the country. It's not a poor state. So why have you in 40 years not been able to implement the things you talk about there?

the media supports neoliberal capitalism
the right feels discriminated against because of the socially left wing bias
the left feel used because their social talking points are taken by the media but their economics are not.

Unironically we should all team up to kill the neoliberals

It was raised due to inflation, businesses cannot support any more increases and if it happens we lose the opportunity to create our own wealth as a people.

Why not? They are legal immigrants and work harder than millennial shitheads. They won't bring politics into the workplace and they will get the job done.

I'm just saying that the free market is working and will continue to work, anytime the government wants to "assist " us it takes away our freedoms. I am for the free market and against socialism.

>Why not? They are legal immigrants and work harder than millennial shitheads.
Because we'd make hiring immigrants a crime.

it's definitely not working, though, and it's also not even what we have, currently. you failed that trick question, somehow.

>legal immigrants
its okay aslong as we are replaced LEGALLY
fuck off civnat cuck

>They tried to vet Bernie and failed because there's nothing to vet
this is a guy who wrote creepy rape fantasy essays, openly supported the sandinistas in nicaragua and went on his honeymoon to the soviet union. if the media even scrutinized half of his background, he'd be the most unelectable candidate ever.

>businesses cannot support any more increases
You can if you kick all non-americans out of the country and don't let anymore in. It's easier to pay more when there's a lot less people to pay.
>I'm just saying that the free market is working
No it isn't because we don't live in a free market country, see . Where the fuck was the free market when the banks failed? You know what happened before the Federal Reserve was created? If the banks failed they were allowed to collapse even if they took the whole economy with them, that's a REAL free market. I'm not saying I'm in favor of that but it is what it is.

bernie is a jew
why would the media go hard on a fellow tribe member?

It's not a perfect system, but your solution would to give governments complete control? Like you said corporations and the government are in lock step, all wage increases would do would give them MORE power to fuck us. Why do you think Bezos is lobbying for 15 dollars an hour? He's a billionaire in favor for it, have you ever asked yourself why? It's because it's in his best interest for profits.

That would never happen.

We do have a free market, and it works beautifully. Corporations always try to fuck us no matter what but we still have the ability to self employ ourselves and increase our own wealth without lining the pockets of oligarchs.

Right so how would increasing wages then benefit americans? And some big businesses would just leave regardless and set HQs in other parts of the world to avoid it. It would decrease jobs.

Your right, and the reason that is happening is because we are ever so slightly going for a more socialist system. They have been trying their hardest to fuck us at every turn, this is another ploy to do so. Once wages increase the divide in class will widen even more to the point where we are all slaves to corporations. Even more so than now.

>I just want to max my possibilities
It's retail user. They would hire a high school dropout as long as they aren't an ex-con.

>the retards you're describing who shit their pants and foam at the mouth at the word "communism"
you mean the vast majority of americans on both sides of the aisle?
>bernie won't get the nom because he's too scary to the establishment.
bernie *is* the establishment. he's been a career politician for almost 40 years and consistently advocates for bigger government.
the only candidate who's scary to the establishment is trump. that was true in 2016 and it still applies now.

>Right so how would increasing wages then benefit americans?
because we would reduce immigration to 0 and make it illegal to hire immigrants

>some big businesses would just leave regardless and set HQs in other parts of the world to avoid it.
This would be a crime punishable by death

I just want my government to actually do what it's supposed to do as a nation state and not let in foreigners who didn't ask to come here.

That doesn't make any sense and would never happen. What planet are you living on? The leap in logic you take from increased wages to reducing immigration is insane. Makes no sense.

And under the democrats none of what you want would happen. It would just get worse. The republican party is the only ones stopping complete dissolution of our own liberties as a people.

>And under the democrats none of what you want would happen.
Why do you think I vote democrat?

America has never been a nation state
you're not a people, you're a bunch of different nations located on the same land mass

a nation is a people, an ethnicity, something america lacks

Because you haven't made it clear to me what you actually want. You want immigration to cease completely yet you want wages to increase at the same time. One of these things is not like the other and one wouldn't lead to the other.

>That doesn't make any sense and would never happen
Lightning can strike twice

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Nevermind that for the first 130 years of our existence as a nation 90% of the people here were of English and Scottish descent.

point out the policies that involve state seizure of means of production

so british diaspora
that doesnt make you a seperate nation, just a seperate state

america is not a nation because american isnt an ethnicity
you could have stayed part of the english nation while opperating your own state but you decided to bring in niggers instead effectively making you a multi national state

>and one wouldn't lead to the other.
Yes it will, that's not what you're getting. Wages are low right now because thanks to the influx of a large labor pool from immigration, we are in a buyer's market. That means the companies can have the pick of whoever they want to hire. However, if you reduce the labor pool by kicking out all the non-Americans, the supply is severely limited and companies have to offer higher wages to keep people from leaving them to go to other companies with better offers. No one has to do that when there's a massive pool of labor to choose from like now.

For fuck's sake, this is literally how the Renaissance started, the Black Death wiped out 1/3 of Europe's population and as a result of the massive labor shortage, the surviving workers were able to successfully bargain for higher wages and better working conditions because the businesses had no one else to hire.

What are some games that didn't age well?

>you could have stayed part of the english nation while opperating your own state
Like Canada and Australia? Yeah that worked out real well for them.

>you could have stayed part of the english nation while opperating your own state
but we didn't, because we aren't cucks.

they followed your example user, america became a multicultural hellhole and then they simply copied you, repeating your mistake

all of them should have stayed part of the english nation, but instead chose not to, ironically even england itself followed you down the retarded path of multi-nationalism

now none of these countries are nation states anymore

increased wages at the lowest wrung puts upward pressure on the wages above it. basically, if i only get so much more busting my ass doing construction or the like, why wouldn't i just do the bare minimum at a minimum wage job? I wouldn't, so construction jobs and similar jobs going for a certain amount over minimum wage have to raise their rate so that someone chooses it over a mcjob. there's also often stipulations in place, such as number of workers, so that small businesses are exempt from a certain minimum wage, though they obviously have some minimum wage in place

Slaves didn't count as people back when we were bringing them in.

>lets import millions upon millions of non whites and invent cuckold porn to show them we arent cucks
well done user, but try to imagine an independant america that never got any immigration, imagine its glory

>americans can't even vaccinate themselves and here they are trying to argue politics

lmao swine.

>but try to imagine an independant america that never got any immigration
So basically the history of America up until like 1880? It's not hard to imagine, it literally was how it worked for the first century of the country.

>businesses that would fail if they had to pay a "fair" price (it's still not even close to fair -- should be much higher, which makes this tired conversation even more laughable) deserve to go under
this. thats the literal definition of an efficient economy in economics

why do europoors act like they don't have a refugee crisis courtesy of the eu?

and you didnt send the slaves back, wasnt lincon assassinated because he wanted to send the freed slaves back to africa?
but you also had german migration
italian migration
french migration
spanish migration
multiple asian ethnicities migrating
you have had black people immigrate directly from africa in recent times

this doesnt seem like a nation to me
it seems like a multi nation state with the sole purpose of globohomo

oh we do, but we have the history of actually being nation states in the past, which makes it more likely for a reconquista to be justifiable here than in the us