Dark Souls 3

Hallway Souls 3

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It's much easier than the first two, which I think contributes.

>Modded version of Skyrim
What?

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2 had the best pvp

Because it was well designed with multiplayer longevity in mind.
Cooping with friends is easy. Upgrade based matchmaking and the game's progression means there's a lot of people with similar upgrade levels in the same areas which results in a lot of white signs even 4 fucking years after release. There's plenty of early game build options including the ability to create boss weapons in less than 2 hours. DLC can be accessed within 2 hours as well.

The question is, will it stand the test of time like DS2 did?

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and das2 is "go this way, hit dead end, go back". it's going to be a long time before any game matches das1's map design

Actually, it's much harder than the first two.

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Because it’s the most FROM recent title? FROM fans are done with the disappointmenting sekiro and it’s one dimensional play through and are heading back to a game with actual depth of moveset, weapons, armor, multiplayer. Pretty much sekiro was a huge downgrade in every way and the numbers prove it.

Based on my lastplaythrough, 90% of those fuckers are invading in Aldias Keep like little faggots, I HATE THAT HALLWAY SO FUCKING MUCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

RIGHT
DOWN
THE ROAD

jesus, is his vigor at like fucking 300?

nah it isn't, but it's the most accessible for newbies

It's the most recent FROM game with multiplayer so you are right, but not sure why you had to go into a long bizarre rant against Sekiro, which dosnt have any multiplayer at all.

>tfw this is true
>and Yea Forums is STILL seething about it

cinders mod got a lot of attention recently.
it's probably that.

My problem with 3 is that alot of the enemies have wild flailing bullshit attacks that you just gotta stand back and watch instead of actively defend

Dark Souls 2 is the best one, dont @ me

>SOTFS release date: 2015
>DS REMASTERED release date: 2018

Nostalgiagoggles slowly cracking

How the fuck you get a death and a half

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Because DS2 is trash, DS1 is split between Prepare to Die and the shitty remaster, so DS3 is the only souls game you can play if you want PVP or co-op.

you wish, it's just the newest( and easiet)

SHIT taste, SHIT opinion. SHIIIIIIIIIIT

DSR had more players than DS3 for about a month after its launch, then died down to pre-DSR levels for some reason, maybe because the game sucks and doesn't live up to nostalgia.

Its true though. I'd love to go back to the good old days of constant invasions and summons every step of the way in DS1 but the remaster fucked everything up. And as far as DS2 goes the game is objectively trash and mods barely make it playable, DS3 is the only option for people who want to enjoy an online souls experience.

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Replay value

It has no replay value. It’s a fucking linear corridor.

>muh too linear
user, everything after Anor Londo sucks dick in DS1.

FPBP

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You fell for a meme. The only bad area is Lost Izalith.

Demon Ruins are literally unfinished

HOLY FPBP

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Yes, but demons ruins are not the entirety of "the second half of dark souls 1".

DaS3Chads, RISE UP

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Duke's Archives is boring too

Absolute pleb opinion

Add SotFS, coward.

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>aldia's keep invasions
man these are also nice, i should go do some

Does anyone else find 3's sound design annoying? Every other creature screeches loudly. Or there's some kind og gimmick like the giant arrows slamming down. And everything has a subabased to it. No matter what is happening on the screen, you here this bassy rumble, underneath the OVER LOUD grating screech sounds.

I feel like this problem never gets talked about, because the discussion is always about gameplay issues. But DS3 has the worst sound design of all.

Love how every single souls threads is just parrots repeating the same regurgitated opinions over and over.

>DS3 is linear
>Second half of DS1 bad
>DS2 contrarians

Feels like I'm reading bot posts half the time.

>And everything has a subabased to it.
Shit, I meant "everything has a sub-bass added to it"

Because its the latest game in the series you retard and the most casualized and accesible one, see how it plummets to less than DS1 right now when Elden Ring comes out and it has pvp,

Fpbp
Nostalgia faggot boomers should be sentenced to 10 bed of Chaos and Lower Undead Burg runs

Well people who make a huge fuss about the latter half of DaS1 are just retarded. Especially if they are DaS3 fans. Because honestly what is the the difference between the lazy enemy placement in Izalith with reused bosses and the lazy enemy placement of the entirety of DaS3 with reused bosses.

And people who make a huge fuss about DaS2 are just as retarded. So the mechanics feel a little different. The core Dark Souls experience is still intact.

It sure as shit is harder than the puss easy DS2.

>Lower Undead Burg runs
What's wrong with lower undead burg? You guys manage to reveal your pleb tastes in new and interesting ways.

Nope, it's actually harder but it lacks the general cheapness of certain boss fights and such.

>unlimited stamina and roll to win being harder than anything
Lol. No, Dark Souls 3 is piss easy casual shit.

>the remaster fucked everything up
PTDE had less players than SOTFS tho

FPBP

Woah it's almost like every soulsbornekiro game is a flawed masterpiece with significantly different strengths and weaknesses.

why do souls fans defend the combat in fromsoft games. all the souls clone games have way better combat and better build customization. fromsoft barely even makes rpgs, they are just action games with really terrible controls.

A bunch of autists like to meta build PvP in the game, and ruin it for noobs.

Name a souls like with better combat

Nioh

Because it's good.

it's just twinks fighting twinks at this point

piss easy cuck game

Severance
Oh wait that isn't even a soulslike because it came 8 years before DeS.

fpbp

>well polished
>most difficult pve
>best pvp
It's pretty simple bro.

It just wasn't his fault.

because there's no dark souls 4

It's a good game.

Sure sorcery and magic are mostly useless but the weapons are all fun for pvp, even shit ones. It's just fun to fight with weapons.

You mean King'sarmoredsoulsbornekiroring, right?

The combat is hardly better and the game suffers from a ton of flaws

>no enemy variety at all
>repetitive linear levels - but this time in reverse!
>garbage loot system
>no pvp

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Based
DaS2 niggers BTFO

It's playerbase shall be its downfall.
youtube.com/watch?v=KPMx5OR9B9I

>best pvp
So you've never played Dark Souls 2 huh?

you realize the wikidot repeats enemies, right?
if theres a hollow soldier in two areas it'll list it in both areas

The way of blue is still so active that any new player still gets help from like 2-3 people, which is probably another reason why people continue to play it. Nothing is stopping a new player from enjoying themselves because any time someone tries to go after them they have to fight people who actually know what they're doing.

>all phantoms have the same armor
Wow, thought the shitload of loot was supposed to give the game variety?

>ChaseTheBro STILL making daily invasion videos and streams all these years later
How many levels of autism is this dude on?

Add to that most Nioh bosses are boring uninspired humanoid shit

Absolutely fucking based. Dark Souls 3 still makes people so fucking booty blistered because they couldn't just tank everything like before and had to adapt.

This. The numbers don't lie

why do people always bring up enemy variety when souls games always have tons of clones and throw away monsters that only appear in very small segments of the game. The monsters in nioh are actually well thought out with specific vulnerabilities and weaknesses you can exploit.

I've beaten 1 and 2 and 1 again several times with ptde on pc

but I've yet to beat 3, its like I cant bother to git gud anymore and after playing 1 for so long I was used to not care about armor outside of style points and shields, of course
critical mistake it seems, I like the variety in 3 but honestly I just cant be bothered to use anything else than a straight sword.

so my question is, how do I learn to use anything else? and use that to finally beat the game
I think the furthest I played was up until that guy that duplicates, cant remember the name. I also used the ultra gs for a while.

So let's recap Boomer Souls vs Dark Souls 3
Boomer Souls
1) Retarded boss fights that becomes trivial with specific actions/cheesing (ex. Capra Demon) or that are simply shit (ex Bed of Chaos)
2) Shield is the way go to
3) Horrible class balance
4) No respec
5) 2 (two) remastered versions and it's still shit
6) The only really memorable boss fights are all DLC's except Ornstein and Smough
7) It fucking sucks after Anor Londo
8) No teleport (boomers think that rolling around for 20 minutes is a good thing and a measurement of skills).
9) Only two endings
10) "Le interconnected gaem" meme offers nothing but claustrophobic enviroments

Chad Souls 3
1)All the bosses are varied by movesets and type of damage/resistances/weaknesses, there's no stairs n shit gimmicks
2) After the initial underpower Poise/Shield, 1.08 buffed both and made both rolling and blocking viable playstyles
3) Spells and classes are well balanced
4) You can respec
5) Great graphics and good controls from the very start
6) A lot of memorable bosses
7) Consistently great
8) You can teleport
9) three endings
10) Wonderful settings and views capitalize on the fantastic art direction, alternating those with claustrophobic enviroments

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Because 1 was murdered in cold blood, 2 is designed in such a way as to be unsustainable long-term, and 3 is the most recent game that can cover its somewhat unique niche.
I would be playing 1 or maybe give 2 more of a chance if they had actual players.

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I can't even get mad at people that do this. It's just such a sad state to exist in. It's like getting mad at those types of guys that shoot up and OD in a Goodwill or something. Its just sad, really.

Straight sword is literally the strongest weapon in 3 and armor is useless in 3. Wear whatever you think looks cool and roll spam around like everyone else and you'll be invincible.

It's such an easy game, it's embarrassing.

>ds3
>no gimmick bosses
Whut?

Souls games have way more enemies and they are utilized better, as most of them can only be found in specific levels. Nioh uses the same enemies the entire game, no matter what level you are in.

1 and 2 both still have a good amount of players though.

2 has nearly 2k players on right now while 1 has 1.5k players.

Ds remastered was a fucked port. Even worse than the original release somehow.

>skeleton man with a robe instead of a suit of armor

VARIETY

compared to 10k that's nothing and I doubt the segment I would encounter is sizable

This

DaS3 >DaS > DeS > BB >>>>> Sekiro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DaS2

BASED

Name one except the Giant (for which you can still have a proper arena and face it without stormbreaker)

Spotted the pc only fag.

Actually based

You only need one other person for an invasion. You're a legitimate retard if you think 2000 players is anywhere close to dead.

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Ancient Wyvern

Wyvern in peak
Tree in village.

There’s an entire “boss” that’s just a plunging attack gimmick

High Lord Wolnir

>DaS3>BB>Sekiro>>>DaS>DeS>>>>>>>DeS2
Fixed

>they hated him because he told them the truth

strawpoll.com/gce7hh77

“No”

>same exact oni, but more health
Wow. So fucking boring seeing the same enemies. Gives the levels no identity since youre fighting the same shit through the entire game.

sekiro is too weeb even compared to dexsouls 3
and the remake of DS sucked, what else are the going to play?

Dark Souls > Bloodborne > Demon's Souls > Dark Souls 2 > Dark Souls 3

FPBP

Sekiro is fucking trash and BB is not second due to being an inferior version of DaS3

DaS3 is a botched version of bloodborne with way worse bosses and overall difficulty was much easier. only literal fucking reddit plebs think 3 is good.

cutest waifu of the 5, sorry dollfags

Wasn't expecting such a based post.

>lovecraftfags actually think this
DaS3 has everything that bloodborne has, but more, or better

Bloodborne is dead fucking trash

Reddit: the opinion

Ironically enough reddit and trannyera are the only ones left parroting about BB.
Nobody plays it anymore for a reason.

Did you even play the game? Why are you defending it then?

This.

Dark Souls 3 feels like a bad Bloodborne DLC

>Wyvern
It's not a gimmick boss, it's about facing multiple enemies while dodging it's fire.
It's not a boss in the same way Sekiro snake is not, but is a nice variation with a little too obnoxious snake enemies
>HLW
It's not gimmick, it's just a bullshit easy fight
>Tree
Same, not a gimmick for the same reason HLW, hitting weakspots of an otherwise immortal enemy is not a gimmick, it's a staple of vidya boss fights, and tree is a good boss too

BB is much easier than DaS3 my dude. Only Souls game easier than BB is DeS.

Jesus Christ kill yourself

An actual gimmick is Stairs for Capra demon or bows/ranged for Giant Rat

ahahahaha jesus christ

>Not a single argument
>Mad
Cry harder

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because sekiro has no multiplayer and that is the sole reason people gave a single fuck about souls shit? the unique multiplayer you CANNOT get anywhere else ever

Because retarded Yea Forums opinions don't matter on the real world no matter how much you screech

>and the most casualized and accesible one
DaS3 is by far the hardest in the series since it doesn't have an obvious broken build like previous Soulsborne games.

You can’t make this up

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Nah, it's the replay value. Sekiro has shit all replay value. Even for an action game, I'd rather replay DMC or NG over it. I don't like it at all.

what replayability does das3 have?

>str build
>dex build
>meme build
>cosplay build

you'll get tired in the same amout of runs regardless unless you like the multiplayer

You can't possibly be serious. The game itself is broken, you can roll for infinity and be invincible.

Do people really think DS3 is hard?

>say something really stupid
>get called an idiot for saying something stupid
>"UHH NOT EVEN A SINGLE ARGUMENT HUH? LOL I WIN!!!"

Keep seething nostalgiafag
ZERO (0) arguments

They hated him because he told them the truth.

The replayability in 3 is especially bad since the game is such a hallways.

>t. PC 3rd worlders who never played it

It's probably people who started off with 3 or have only played 3. The game is crazy easy.

Speaking as someone who keep going back to play this game, co-op. I just go on to help people through areas and with bosses, and it's fresh a lot of the time since the player you're helping is gonna have a different personality and want to do things differently than others.

Whatever helps you sleep at night my dude. Doesn't change the fact that BB is piss easy ahahaha

See, that's literally the only reason why Yea Forums brings it up. To shitpost in a shitskin platform wars. Again, nobody plays it anymore for a reason.

>all these buttblasted replies
How do I know they are all from DaS2 fags?

>PLEASE LOOK AT ME
Have sex

>Ancient Wyvern isn't a gimmick fight
You can't possibly be serious

>Has zero arguments
>Gets assblasted
>ehm....have sex
HOLY COPE user, we are debeating games now, no need to project your insecurities

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Hello, based department?

Are you retarded? You asked for examples and received them then said that's not an argument.

>euh Ancient Wyvern isn't a gimmick fight because you have to avoid obstacles to get to damage boss!
>but um Bed of Chaos totally is a gimmick fight, the obstacles you have to avoid to damage the boss are a gimmick!
You're just retarded user

pretending to be retarded on the internet is fun

>Lol I can't believe you don't accept X
>Not a single valid argument proving X
WYVERN is simply not a boss fight, is essentially a long corridor where you need to time your moves or get blasted by the trap, similar to oscillating axes or rolling boulders

Who are you quoting ? Who said Bed of Chaos is a gimmick boss fight ?

so you agree with me then? people come back for the multiplayer

he's using your retard logic and applying it to a known gimmick fight, retard.

Reminds me of dragon god from DeS

No, """he""" is not you faggot, nobody said Bed is a gimmick boss fight.

Not me but cope harder you dumb faggot. Dark Souls 3 has gimmick boss fights, most notably Yhorm the Giant and Ancient Wyvern.

You can't even call it a boss fight much like the ancient wyvern. I get what he's trying to say

I guess yeah, but I treat it as PvE, I don't ever invade or anything.

Nope

Exactly

Fpbp

>compared to 10k-
Why compare it? On their own they're both active.

You need to take your meds before you shoot up a school

>People play but that doesn't count
I always laugh at this shit

>Still projecting

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Stop samefagging

>Yea Forums is one person

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Crash Bandicoot

the surge

NIGGERS MAD
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Dog Shit 3

ok now im thinking he based

Got a webm of that death?

fpbp

FPWP

Name one major flaw

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the surge

you're goddamn right

>Be me
>Make a new character
>Literally named him Negropean
>Melanin overload, red duck lips
>Full strength
>Great club
>Always wait for Invaders with my 200+ SL friend
>My friend uses glitches so he can can shoot great arrows with the speed of Gael's crossbow, use the sword weapon art with Lorian's greatsword, etc
>Faggots always complain
>TFW we're killing the DS 3 community in Xbox

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lamps suck

*SQUAWK*

First boast pest boast

That one ds2 shill is a faggit btw

Boring. Any game with as many options as a souls game has that so strongly prefers one playstyle is garbage.

*SQUAWK*

You can do that on Xbox? I'm SL250 and I haven't encountered anything like that, but I haven't played in a while.

based

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There's a certain autism surround fantasy RPG's and PC players for some reason. Skyrim, Witcher 3, Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma; all are wildly popular with PC players specifically. Even if they started out as console games.

I think it has something to do with old CRPG's like Ultima and Baldur's Gate creating a general RPG culture.

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That's not anything major like Dark Souls second half tanking or Dark Souls 3 being too derivative. It's more of an inconvenience.

>There's a certain autism surround fantasy
Care to elaborate? You didn't really give details about what you consider that autism to be.

>reinstall
>invade in undead settlement
>sl 20 guy with full cathedral set accompanied by yuria cosplayer with invisible magic

pc gaming
not even FUCKING once

>It's more of an inconvenience.
Not him but that's going to be subjective as I could argue what you said is more of an inconvenience as well. Not be able to teleport between lamps sucked dick.

Lol nobody even plays on xbox

>TFW we're killing the DS 3 community in Xbox
You're killing a corpse?

Not really unless you're being dishonest. Entire levels clearly being unfinished is something everyone agrees significantly hampers the experience but not being able to teleport between lamps when you have close to zero need for it is not that big of a deal.
It's like if you were to say you like games that are broken and ridden with bugs. You can say that but it's hard for me to believe.

Because it has the best PvP

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Exactly

>Not really unless you're being dishonest.
Why would I be dishonest? BB had its levels finished in the later half and it was still a slog like the unfinished later half in dark souls. But once again that's going to be subjective and you're probably going to argue otherwise. The guy you were responding to was right in his original post about these games being flawed master pieces. The only thing that makes up for BB's later half is the perfect DLC that got released. Lamps pissed me off the most though.

I think the difficulty of the souls games comes down to the individual player and their play style (and whether or not that play style is solid in that game iteration)

I see a lot of people call DaS3 easy for example, but for me it was and still is far and away the hardest of the 3 games, whereas I find DaS2 (Excluding just the snow DLC) to be borderline impossible to die in unless you're actively forgoing picking up healing items to intentionally make it harder on yourself

>Tried to be gank bitch
>Got shit pushed in
>Cry on Yea Forums about muh pc boogieman

Fine. But at a fundamental level one could argue everything is relative but what's the point of discussing any matter if everyone is in their own little worlds? If we can't even agree finished areas are better than unfinished areas then what's the point of this conversation? But i reject this idea that we are all these special snowflakes that are so different than everyone around us. No we are more alike than we like to admit and we agree on a wide variety of matters than we like to admit.

>but what's the point of discussing any matter if everyone is in their own little worlds?
It leads to debate, exchanging of ideas and formulations of new opinions. Not often but it does occur. I'm not even shitting on your opinion my man, it's just hard to live up to the expectations of someone who thinks a game is perfect.

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how the fuck do so many people agree with the first post
normally people shit on das3
it's cool to see people acknowledging it's the best one though

The game is a fucking linear slog until you reach Irithyll then the pace finally picks up and you race your way to the end in no time. Also, playing any type of caster is a joke until the late game.

I think saying "this is subjective" is a conversation ender. Exhibit A being this exchange between us. I can't communicate any idea to you because you claim to hold different values. I can never get you to formulate new opinions because your values isn't something i can break through.

we got too fucking cocky ds1 bros...

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its a good thing that the linear levels leading up to irithyll are all mostly good other than the catacombs and the smouldering lake, the latter of which you don't have to do

It never is user

Dark Souls later half sucked ass was unfinished and I didn't enjoy it, same goes for you. It's my own fault for not mentioning that. Bloodbornes later half was finished but was a slog for me but maybe not for you. I'd argue that's where the subjective nature comes in. I hated that you couldn't travel between lamps that was the worst for me and is going to not be the same for you.

All that aside do you believe bloodborne has any major flaws?

My favorite Souls game? Dark Souls 2.

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40-50

No i don't think it has any major flaws that is a huge stain on the game. Maybe the performance and the graphics but that's the system it's on to blame. This is not to say it has no flaws. Farming for bloodvials and quicksilver bullets is lame and like you pointed out the inability to warp between lamps and tons of other minor problems.
Even the later half of BB which i will agree is not as strong as the first half, has something to appreciate about it. Mainly the visuals/art direction,

>Even the later half of BB which i will agree is not as strong as the first half
Sadly that happened to each game in the dark souls series and BB, the upside is BB was the only one in the series to got DLC to make up for most of its flaws and is how DLC should be made for a game.

>BB was the only one in the series to got DLC to make up for most of its flaws and is how DLC should be made for a game.
We can agree to that.

>Watching him die to Gundyr 60 times

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>LINEAR BAD ME WANT OPEN WORLD

That .5 death he had was from a controller battery dying, I'll give him one case of it actually not being his fault

the newest one would be the remastered.

>2020
>I still haven't finished the all rings achievement for 100%
This year for sure!

dark soul 2 usually only does slightly better than dark soul remastered.

I enjoyed DS1 the most by far, it definitely had the most "soul". The game was challenging, yet fair and it had a lonely yet comforting aesthetic.

DS2 was alright and I still like to visit it for its sheer variety in weapons/armour/builds and replayability DS2 is something that is growing on me the more that time passes.

DS3 makes me quit as soon as I reach cursed rotwood. Possibly the gayest boss in all of video games. Everything in this game insta lunges at you and for some reason, even normies can beat it. Without knowing anything about they game, they simply choose a knight character and pick some overpowered 2h and roflstomp the game. Lame.

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>dark souls is open world
>bloodborne is open world
Retard

probably a seething DMC drone

non linear =/= open world

Having to buy blood vials and bullets. Respawning estus is a much better mechanic. They tried to change it up in DaS2 as well and learned their lesson and just went back to estus in DaS3.

When you say a joke, do you mean too easy or just stupid? Haven't tried a magic build in DaS3 yet.

Wow it's almost like the pvp was improved upon in later installments which is the only thing keeping people playing.

Being able to run while locked on is the best feature they added throughout the series.

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this map is dogshit unless you mark the paths unavailable until later.

Now count 3's DLC.

I agree. DaS has by far the best audio, which helps in making it also the most atmospheric.

/thread
bpbp
Every reply after that is just unnecessary, the thread should have ended right here. Fuck faggots that think DS1 or DS2(lol) is better.

>I feel like this problem never gets talked about
That's because it's not an actual problem you just have little pussy ears.

fpbp

>DS2 niggers btfo into oblivion

/thread

fpbp

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People who prefer Dark Souls 2
>actual fucking nutcases who think it was a good game on release
>people who hate actual difficulty, no facing 6 enemies at once is not "engaging" nor is it actually difficult after the first two areas
>Afraid of player interaction despite it being a core part of the series since Demon's Souls. Even Bloodborne has had better player interaction despite the pvp being practically nonexistent
>Wants a "decent pve experience" which is short for "broken as fuck builds" and "not having to worry about being invaded"
Your rushed game which was absolute trash on release is why they had to fucking put three out insanely fast

stay mad faggot

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I will stay mad, because despite having some amazing systems Dark Souls 2 had to fuck it all up by removing meaningful player interaction

Dark Souls Remastered is just a worse version of the game where as SOTFS is a better one

Based and redpilled

The only actual good map here is 1. DaS2 maps have very very tiny padding areas that are basically non areas where as 3's map is hilariously linear, could it have killed them to have just one more path at high wall?

Based.

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Mfw bed of chaos just did this jump attack, clips through the ceiling and fell into the bottom of the entire game. I just stood there waiting for the victory text to pop up. Should have saved it, it was actually pretty funny. Was going to title it as a guide.