Is making a balanced fighting game based on an established canon franchise essentially canon breaking...

There you go OP, easy as that

Krillin went about even against Ssb Goku when he was looking for fighters. Dude's a machine

I didn't play much of the main campaign cause the "story" is literally worse than dogshit

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way! I prefer the budokai games because they actually scale the characters (kid boo has more health than krillin etc.) I'm a gameplay over immersion gal anyway, but when there is zero explanation to whats going on on screen I can't get over it.

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Inform yourself next time

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anyone who cares about canon power level in a fighting game is severely autistic and should stick to xenoverse if they cannot recover from their autism

Do the xenoverse ganes have the "alternate ending storylines"? I really miss those from budokai

The story mode explained the power difference, although it's obviously forced. Everyone felt their power level significantly drop so they're all at the same point. Yamcha basically felt no difference, but Goku struggled at first. Goku and Jiren essentially have the same power level as the weakest character in the roster (I guess Videl now?). The only thing that goes against this is that they're still able to blow up planets etc in their finisher animations.

Its a video game made to be played by people.
You can have 3 gokus fighting 3 gokus.
Its not meant to be canon its meant to be a video game.
Hell even the in game story mode wont have Krilin fighting Jiren.

I had a friend who sperged out over how Cris's refiled can beat the hulk in MVC3 or how Superman is not invincible in Injustice.
You are being that guy right now.

Because what takes place outside of story mode is just fan fiction.
As stated you can fight 3 v3 gokus.

That makes it on par with Dragonball, and ignorance is never an excuse.

What goes through the minds of powerlevelfags when they're playing a decent fighter with more than 3 viable characters?

OP guaranteed to rage when Jiren gets shit on by Krillin or Yamchad

why would you want powerlevels to be a factor?
that way you just end up with two viable characters.
the current baddest guy and the current vegeta/goku fusion.

its retarded and NOT fun to design a game like that.
yamcha and krillin still have some of the coolest projectile moves in the series and the games can make up for the shit tier writing on toriyamas end.

>in real life

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There are literally dozens of other Dragon Ball games that "break canon" so why the hell does everyone complain when FighterZ does it?

Explain Melee fags

Because it's popular

>muh powerlevels
Ignore the fact that characters can fight themselves and other blatant shit

Story mode explained the power level normalization. Waves are causing everyones power level to be the same

>in real life

>which is ridiculous because in real life Jiren is a million times stronger than Kururrin
I hate to be the one to break this to you Pablo, but Dragon Ball isn't real

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Even in the context of original fighting games you have devs just allowing anyone to be able to beat anyone if the game is balanced.

Canonically characters like Slayer are end level but they can still "lose" to characters like Bridget if you drop his health bar to 0. And even then he's just lying on the ground chilling since he's not actually been KO'd.

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i dont think dbfz is canon AND it has a story reason for yamcha being able to go toe to toe with perfect cell.

it is also a video game so who cares.

As influential as DB was it just it just hasn't been too exciting for years because since the Z era, combat nas been all about infinite power increases until you get to the point where you can't show it off well and all you can do is say "this character is stronger than that one because more ki". Other animus have much more interesting fights because they built more fleshed out rules that aren't all just about power and the power escalation isn't as ridiculous.

>Was interested in dbfz again after a year of not touching it at all
>Come back and they added a bunch of cool tutorials
>did almost all of them in one sitting, including combo challenges
>tried playing a few matches but it took em hours just to play a couple of them

this feels awful. it is not meant to be.

do you complain about the movies not making sense, OP?

OP is mad that he loses to the ginyu force.

It's not as explored as Budokai and SSW/SSW2, your job is to effectively stop them before they get out of hand. It does have some cool what-ifs, but overall it's not as fun as those were. You can make OCs come to life though, which can be unironically fun if you are a writefag.

>tried playing a few matches but it took em hours just to play a couple of them
You mean the fights themselves? Or finding one?

I mean, debately anything not written by Toriyama directly is loosely based fanfics. GT, movies, games, Super, all of it. If you wanna get real technical Xenoverse had about as much help with the plot as Super did, so it's as canonically valid as Super, thus everything in it is canon.

And yet Yamcha can still theoretically beat Omega Shenron in those games.

But Toriyama wrote the outlines of Super and even directed and wrote the Broly movie

It's a fighting game first, DB game second. It pays respect to the series but it's not going to compromise the gameplay just so you can enjoy annihilating Krillin as Jiren..
If you need an excuse, Android 21 reduced the power levels of everyone on the planet to those of early DBZ so it would be easier for her to eat people. Not to mention half the cast isn't going to take someone like modern Yamcha seriously to begin with.

He also supervised Xenoverse's story directly and was involved in the design of major characters such as Toki-Toki, Kai of Time, and in the past created the designs for SSJ4 in GT.

Xenoverse actually saw more direct work with Toriyama than Super has, and only reinforces the fact that Dragon Ball has no official canon.

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>and in the past created the designs for SSJ4 in GT.

Stop fucking lying about shit.

>For instance, one of Nakatsuru-kun’s designs was “Super Saiyan 4, which appears in GT, and the picture above is a portrait that I drew looking off it. Did I draw it well? - Akira Toriyama

kanzenshuu.com/translations/golden_warrior-katsuyoshi_nakatsuru/

>Super Saiyan 4, which appears in the later half of GT, was one of your designs, but I was surprised at how unusual the design was.
>There were a lot of varied opinions about that design. It was my idea to make the body red. “GT” was made as a continuation, and when the producers told me to draw Super Saiyan 4, I went “Ee———-h!?” (strained laughter). Personally, I felt that since they had gone so far as to use stuff like Fusion and merging in the original story, did we really have to continue even further? It was an incredible assignment. Goku’s transformations are an important part of the program, and so I agonized over what would be best to do.

GT is not even slightly canon.

>>in real life
lmao

>Krillin went about even against Ssb Goku when he was looking for fighters. Dude's a machine

STOP FUCKING LYING ABOUT SHIT

Goku fights both Krillin AND 18 at the same time while holding back, and then easily beats both. Krillin flat out admits he's not even close to his level, and is the first to get eliminated from the ToP, or around the first.

Why are DBZ fans such autistic liars?

>in real life

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>Is making a balanced fighting game based on an established canon franchise essentially canon breaking?
yes and that's a good thing, why the fuck would you want it any other way?

KA KA KA KA KACHI DAZE

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Yes, and this is why Tenkaichi 3 will forever be the best. It WAS somewhat balanced, meaning you could still beat the strongest character with the weakest if you were good enough, but that's the thing. You'd have to be damn good.

You're gonna choose Yajirobe and try to punch Broly? He probably won't even flinch. The guy goes great ape? He's still fast, super powerful, doesn't flinch and can't be grabbed. Suddenly you were both flying all around the city and knocking down buildings and shit.

Anime games should be F U N, especially a DBZ game. Tenkaichi 3 is the ultimate DBZ simulator.

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>play power level accurate DBZ game
>pick my boy Krillin
>friend picks SSJ3 Goku
>pummel him for a minute
>take away 5 pixels of their health bar
>they vaporize me with 4 normals because lol power levels dude :^)
FUCK power levels and FUCK anyone who wants them in games.

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