>turn based game
>how it should be
>carefully plan out your strategy
>build up buffs and debuffs accordly
>long hard fought strategic battle
>how it actually is
>LMFAO SPAM AUTOATTACK UNGA BUNGAAAAAAAAA AUTOBATTLE!!!!!!!! x8 spEeeEED!!!!!!!
Turn based game
Ian Brown
Jayden Butler
>Using auto attack
Noah Stewart
>debuffs and buffs
>every fight becomes cast marakukaja matarukaja and masukukaja then debilitate
Xavier Jackson
It's an improvement
Blake Taylor
Play Saga Scarlet Grace.
Wyatt Gutierrez
>every random encounter should take the time of a boss battle
Matthew Russell
The Suikoden combat system specifically is supposed to be quick, unlike a lot of JRPGs that are turn-based that end up being slow as shit.
Some enemies can still be a threat, along with bosses.
Andrew Martin
A fight should always be taken seriously.
Chase King
op is a holly boy
Jordan Reyes
dps>strats
what's the point of buffing, debuffing, and other horseshit when all it does is remove the chance to chip away at the enemy.
auto-haste+quick hit in FFX for example is the best.
Ethan Murphy
I felt like this was actually true in Suikoden2. 1 had regular enemies that still posed a threat. Suikoden 2 was brain dead easy.
Jaxson Howard
Whats the jrpg with the deepest combat? Or at least with the most challenging combat? Would it be some of the SMT games? Its the only one I can think of where you need some strategy to survive even random encounters.
Tyler Gutierrez
The Suikoden series is more about the pre-combat. Gearing up, prepping, picking the right party members, etc.
Jaxson Roberts
I always liked the Shadow Hearts series. Nice balance of difficulty and the Judgement wheel is fucking great.
Thomas Parker
It seems you're looking for SRPGs, jrpgs are story games first and foremost.
Jordan Robinson
>>turn based game
>>how it should be
>>carefully plan out your strategy
>>build up buffs and debuffs accordly
>>long hard fought strategic battle
>>how it actually is
Okay OP is making some points, let's see where he's going with this.
>>LMFAO SPAM AUTOATTACK UNGA BUNGAAAAAAAAA AUTOBATTLE!!!!!!!! x8 spEeeEED!!!!!!!
Never mind, full went full buzzword retard.
Really doesn't have to be that way. You can have it that individual battles may be easy but taken as a whole becomes a careful battle of resources with calculated risks. Or you can have fewer but more meaningful and distinct battles. And challenging doesn't mean slow paced, just because the only "challenges" you know are health padded bosses that otherwise act as normal enemies but with status immunity.
Jacob Morris
fire emblem :^)
Kevin Powell
SMT are braindead even for Dungeon Crawler standards.
Matthew Lee
no pls dont make it hard
my gf would not be able to enjoy them anymore if you make it hard
Isaac Mitchell
ok, recommend something then
Jackson Scott
I like how Rance X did it
>fixed maximum number of encounters per mission, impossible to become overleveled by grinding
>hundreds of characters, need to balance overall army leveling (increases max hp) with leveling specific characters for upcoming battles
>no healing items, healing abilities are relatively rare and become more expensive as you use them
So every battle matters and you can't trivialize bosses by overleveling.