all videogames should cost no more than 10 usd
you are asking your game to be pirated if it is more than 10 usd
All videogames should cost no more than 10 usd
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Unironically yes
Why does NEET hate wagie? Wagie never makes threads about NEETs. I just don't understand the animosity.
t. chadpreneur moneybags
My mom buys me the games so it doesn’t bother me.
ftfy
Nice, personally I won't spend more than $20 on a game, if it's on PC I pay nothing.
This.
The result is PC is full of "free" garbage like PoE, MOBAs, always-online, etc. Pirates and Steam sales literally ruined the platform and now there's no PC games, just console ports.
Wagies aren’t respectable and they also think they’re better than us for being slaves.
That's not how balding works
It literally is, not everyone balds the same way.
Funny coz console games are turning into b2p+f2p mtx.
So not only do u buy game but u also get mtx.
Cucks
?
Respect is earned. No NEET gets any respect either. It least wagie bags my groceries.
>Ywn be a smug anime girl
Coombrains are too stupid to realize.
Go back to facebook
I'm literally playing Wahoo and Gravity Rush 2
You misunderstand everything despite it being easy to understand.
You aren't going to bald all around the middle but then have enough hair to comb over from the side that has a separate balding patch between it and the part of your head that still has hair
>"Muh consoles boogeyman!"
The difference is they still get proper singleplayer games exclusive to their platform.
>I chose to work
No I didn't. I lived like a king in NEETdom, now I'm a wage in a cage. My empire is in ruins, so many boners have to be ignored and surpressed when I could have once masturbated as I pleased.
Ironic that you think I’m the one who should be on that normalfag website.
Neither of those characters are NEETs
>going bald in the first place
lmao get better genes baldyboi
literally type V
Hakase isn't a NEET you fucking scumbag
>Not being born rich and getting everything you wish from your parents
lmao, stay poor, neetcucks.
Explain.
NEET hates wagie because "they think they’re better than us for being slaves," but this thread seems to indicate you NEET is is the one that thinks they're better, when the reality is your both not worthy of respect by a man proper.
The one on the right has a job though. She's from Shirobako, she works as an animation producer.
It's good to know people have literally never walked down a public street.
It fucking isn't
I've seen people with that tonsure-cut style balding and you don't have weird comb-over length strands slightly off to the side
Why did we even evolve to go bald god fucking damn it.
>EU hours
>Burgers are still up
The wagie can’t be respect in the same way a cuckold can’t be respected. To make it worse the wagie is on a high horse because he works and says “Hmph! At least I’m contributing to society unlike you neets!” and takes pride in his herd following mindset. The NEET doesn’t care about respect from others and does what he wants regardless of what the herd wants him to do. The wage and neet are opposites
Others want you to succeed because they have a misplaced sense of what belonging is, as it was taught to them so that they feel they must pass it on. They don't want you to 'fail yourself' and place value in 'failing others' or 'others failing you' over that and call it a 'natural learning experience'.
The truth is; anyone can see a problem and acknowledge it and avoid it altogether, but most people would rather have you cross these broken bridges so that you may learn 'the right way'. If you're not excelling at something, you're 'wasting away' but if you do, you're 'getting in the way of others'. There is no winning besides not playing.
Hot take: The biggest field of failure is art - it benefits everyone but the creator.
Freelancer chads get to laugh at both. Wagies for being willing slaves and neets being worthless shitstains on a ticking timer.
Not too late for HRT, user.
I don't see wagies bitching about NEETs all day.
Neets do not care for being “worth” anything. That’s stupid and pointless. You are still working no matter how “good” you have it. You still have to put effort into acquiring money even if it’s less than the average wagie. You are the same as them in the end.
>tfw never gave to work a day in ny life thanks to NEETbux
>happier and healthier than wagies
And you stupid fuckers say communism doesn't work, yet here I am as living proof it's better for you
It's 7 AM on the east coast.
based
>NEETbux
>communism
What
If all you want out of life is to sit at home and fap and play Vidya, then I guess being a NEET is the way to go.
If you have other hobbies or interests you want to pursue or even dare I say start a family then you probably shouldn't be a NEET.
I'm curious, how many other anons just use videogames to kill time? For me, my life is on autopilot right now while I go through some hoops/make it through the winter without killing myself. So videogames are how I keep the calendar pages turning.
>neet
>communism
Are you retarded?
>Neets do not care for being “worth” anything
That's a cope if I've ever heard one. You can't turn your sense of worth on or off like a switch. The time I spent as a neet from when I was 18-25 years old was a fucking nightmare of shame and depression.
Not everyone is the same as you. Some cucks feel shame for not letting their wife sleep with other men.
>NEET tries to defend his position near me
It doesn't help that a lot of NEETs are just failed normalfags who act like they're something special just because they don't have a job.
Well obviously you can't since you're a wagie, retard.
No, i'm not a wagie. Communism is the future my brother, and NEETs being successfully happy and healthy is proof of that.
No, yes I'm sure you're both an unfeeling sociopath and completely fearless about your future. You said so here so it must be true.
>Well obviously you can't since you're a wagie, retard.
Who said I'm a wagie?
You just admitted to working out of fear lol. Slave
If by neetdom you mean prison, sure. Enjoy.
There is more value in not participating than there is in doing so.
If I want something done, I do it myself or find a way to make it easier through using others who are more willing - which is harder to pull off nowadays as self-awareness is on the rise.
Society offers no true incentive for the common man to participate.
salary is just a different breed of wagekek
I've been working my first job for 3 months now and I hate dealing with my manager and customers but I don't really want to go back to not having money. I wish I had a better job
Nah, I used to do this shit for free. Now I'm paid for it. Chances are somebody in this thread, maybe even you, were cucked out of their money for something I used to make for fun.
>No, i'm not a wagie. Communism is the future my brother
Bad news my friend, that's now what communism is like. Where I come from we used to have communism and one of the central adages that you can still find in some of our older cartoons is "those who don't work don't eat". I doubt my dad was alive back then, but he is still reminiscing of the time "when everyone was assured a job".
its just damage control from not being able to live in society and being undeducated/not being able to do anything useful that will give you a decent job
its circlejerk that being neet is cool and good thing while most of them are depressed fucks who dont know what to do with their lives and will suicide after their parents die or they will eventually get a shit job that will make them seethe til the last day of their lives because being a neet for long time means you have no experience and other things required for decent job that will not make you want kill yourself every day
keep coping neets, there will be time when you will cry that your lives are shit and you gonna blame everyone around you for that and when you finally get that shit job you will be crying even more because you will never be able to sleep for 12 hours and do whatever you want and it will be the only thing in your mind, to be neet again which isnt a problem for normal people who are used to working and going to work every day is just like brushing your teeth, a normal activity that everyone do exept you, you will be crying
Yes, but I posted then when they are cheaper too
So this is where the Yang Gang is hiding on Super Tuesday
>not even a single delegate
incoming >n-no u wagie
Based. How's it like living off your mother's back, filthy NEETS? We're not all slaves- we sometimes get paid doing things we love, like vidya. You like vidya, right? Of course not. This is Yea Forums. You hate fun.
>coomer
You were never free me lad.
>those who don't work don't eat
This. Back in socialist times, everyone was given a job, and you had security and a living standard never before seen for most people in this shithole of a country. Now we just have shit wages, everything is expensive, and people are just as retarded and incapable as they were.
>living standard never before seen for most people in this shithole of a country
Let's not get ahead of ourselves user. I never said I liked communism, or that most people who weren't my dad did. You're still essentially working all day for a shit wage, but now your boss is a collective representative and if they say you go to work in a coal mine, then that's where you will fucking work until you die or they decide something else needs more manpower.
Neets coping hard about being fat, white. Virgin welfare niggers
>neets
>doing anything beyond sitting in front of the computer for 18 hours
>Wagie never makes threads about NEETs. I just don't understand the animosity.
The wagie meme was started by actual wagies. The real issue is actually taking it serious, like this poor gullible user
But Erika works in the anime indsutry, she's no NEET.
to make fun of soibois
>tfw wagie but somehow making less money than most NEETs
The wagie.
It's the same level of assumption that NEETs make when they think all wagies are breaking their back and getting yelled at by "bossman" to take overtime while Jamal fucks their girlfriend.
Look, socialist systems have tons of downsides, but what I'm saying is that for countries where people had been slaves working in agriculture for rich people, with literally no prospects of social mobility in sight, socialism was a huge step forward. You could even even go to university, something you couldn't even dream of before. That's how my grandpa became a doctor even though he came from an ass poor peasant family. Of course, it had tons of retarded shit as well, but it's interesting to hear that most people I know enjoyed it better than the current system.
I would take sitting in front my computer for 18 hours over working anytime. You would too.
A bunch of normal people with average lives? what is supposed to be bad about this?
I M O
You're right.
Death to the AAA games industry.
Have sex
lol
>he's forgetting all of those articles of developer bitch fits
But pirates still pirate sub-$10 games.
>It's another NEET a cope thread
Videogames shouldn't cost 60$, I live in a country where the exchange rate is 4.7 to 1$, I am literally paying almost 300$ for a 60$ game
Because NEETs are too anxious about going to work knowing (rightfully) about the whole work feeling like shit and too anxious to get an education in their adulthood. Many low-tier jobs are from predatory businesses where a huge chunk of the money goes to the top of the pyramid while workers get scraps and are replaceable enough due to a very large amount of possible job candidates that they can be fired if they start complaining about their wages.
NEETs are also making a dumb mistake not capitalizing on their extra free time where literally half of their free time schedule is unlocked (going by the 8 hours work, 8 hours free time, 8 hours sleep standard) so they instead just do the same things (play vidya, watch anime, that sorta stuff) all day and don't even go outside. Going outside for a walk does wonders for the human psyche. Being a NEET feels like shit for a while because you can't manage your free time effectively because you were accustomed your entire life doing extra activity, but after a while and if you actually use your free time usefully at least once in a while it will feel nice. Being a NEET is only viable if you're rich or literally handicapped to such a degree that you can't work, maybe you can get easy passive money through investing but you might as well gamble.
As for the actual question, I think most of the hate comes from an awful work culture where people believe if you don't work you might as well die.
>normie twitter gif reaction image
fitting.
Teach me your ways, senpai
I'm in your boat right now, almost 27 worthless, skilless NEET and I fucking hate myself. How did you make it, I dont wanna end up like those freaks like OP coping my whole life for being human waste
Cut them some slack, they only have themselves to blame, but their psychiatrist probably told them not to blame themselves too hard, so they come here for confirmation that it's not their fault.
Think positive
I (for now) like my job and see myself doing it for a long time.
But fuck, give me enough money to never work again or to invest in houses and have people playing rent for my entire life and I would be a premium neet without a second thought.
Can't be regular neet because I don't qualify for neetbucks and parents are hardasses
Jesus Christ
If only people realized there are more than two options
I'm totally fine with NEETs using these threads to cope. I wish I had a cute little NEET to force feminize and provide for.
>I live in a country where the exchange rate is 4.7 to 1$, I am literally paying almost 300$ for a 60$ game
Imagine sharing board with retarded monkey like this.
Being a NEET would be master race if not for the simple fact that you can't afford shit if you don't have money.
If you have a massive inheritance or passive income of some sort then great on you, but the vastest majority of people don't have this.
Does NEET even mean anything anymore?
The amount of faggots I've seen on this site that call themselves university NEETs or "practically NEETs" because they work part time at a supermarket is pretty embarrassing.
S-should I also just b myself?
Yes bby kisses~
The exchange rate is fucked but at least I pirate most of my games
I've spoken to a lot of NEETs and most seem to either be supported by their family, supported by government money due to health issues, etc, or a combination of both.
Yes and autismbux are a pathetic meager existence while parents inevitably die.
Okay, but how much of your funny money do you make per hour?
>psychiatrist
Funny way of spelling mom or a random guy on the internet.
tfw NEET who volunteers at a charity store
I want to work and be educated
>wanna stay being a neet
>mom and dad keeps telling me to get a job
what do?
Good on you, people will at least look at volunteering experience favorably on your CV
I'm a NEET for only 2 days per week, but rather that that be a normalfag like most of the people who are NEET 7 days per week.
Yeah, that’s not the problem for neets. The problem is having a hollow existence based on short term gratification and not building anything yourself. That’s obvious when the divert attention immediately to the people on the bottom rung getting shafted, “at least I’m not as bad as them”. I used to say I’d happily be a neet, but now that I have all the time in the world, the importance of honing a craft that is deeply meaningful to me is way more fulfilling than just video games/anime/internet
Ignore em'
>can't afford shit if you don't have money.
Sell shit online, became a streamer, became a titty streamer, get someone to become a titty streamer, patrons/donations, autism bucks, etc. people are literally giving out money for free.
>yen is 107:1 with UNITED STATES dollar now
>japs literally paying almost 6420$ for a 60$ game
Go back to school.
I'd rather die a NEET than suffer a 'life' of wageslavery.
Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you. It used to piss me off, but honestly now? I just feel bad for them. It sounds like a miserable existence.
Just fucking get one you sperg.
You can lie when you gst hired and say you are taking classes so you only have to work 2 or 3 days out of the week or something.
I mean, they are. There's a reason you make cope and posturing threads daily while crying about how women won't touch you.
Poor gal, we really gotta help her out
Kills them so you can stay a NEET in prison forever.
Hard knowing those aren’t the only options, huh friend?
>tfw have had multiple jobs but ultimately they dont last
>part time is a shithole where you jump from ship to ship
>reach your thirties without being able to save up any money at all and infact have debt due to some bad months
i have met so many people 30 and below who are way more motivated than me and they can barely scrape by, how in the fuck is anything going to work out its like no one under 30 has the remote chance of getting a pension when they're old
>only have to work
NEETs seething at wagies is a cope because what does a NEET do in his free time? He can't go out into the city center, he can't eat out, he can't buy new clothes, he can't do anything. His fate is left in the hands of his parents.
I'd rather be in control of my own means, thanks. I'd rather get 4k a month than beg my parents for money.
Damn son video all day nigger
There always exceptions, but yeah. Most folks around our age are fucked when we get old. My advice? Get a skill that doesn't require much physical labor and future proof as possible.
Its not too late to kill yourself either, doenst mean its a good idea
Except of course for you
Asking anyone for money is so fucking degrading.
I believe that all videogames should cost no more than 20 dollars(including inflation rates). This means, that as of today, games can't cost more than 38 dollars 50 cents. Remember to check fineleatherjackets.net
>HOW CAN THE NEET GO ON WITHOUT CONSOOMING?
I'm the kind of guy who doesn't honestly give a shit who someone identifies as or wants to be or whatever. But acquiring debts through your poor life choices and then begging people to get rid of them for you is fucking weak.
I might as well ask.
I think I'm starting to lose my mind and I want to take a leave of absence from work for a few months. Should I do it? I have money saved so I won't have any problems there, probably.
>gal
>her
The only help he needs is a bullet between his eyes.
games should be free since they add nothing productive to society and devs should work for voluntarily purposes rather than as a form of employment since they spent all of their time and resources making devices that are designed to prevent a productive society
Also neets should be made to be soliders rather than people who want to live, a million useless people would be far more useful than a single costly drone in fighting terrorist
>tfw $900 a month full time job
If I could, I'd be a NEET or just have a part time job, but they obviously pay proportionately less. Sucks to be from a shitty county. I can't even imagine making 2k a month because it's so much that only people with stem degrees and work experience get that much here.
Everyone needs a break every once in awhile, if you keep doing the same shit everyday, its going to break you.
My nigga, I work a 40 hour 5 day work week by your definition I am a 2 day NEET on the weekends.
Are you fucking retarded? You aren't NEET at all. Maybe you are Otaku or something, god knows I am, but you aren't a fucking NEET.
You know what? Lately I'm rather suspicious that threads like these are stealth mercunts political campaign like this I hate commie with all my soul, but it gets rather annoying. Make it more subtle next time.
Neets need mommies
He can consume illigally downloaded media on his extremely old pc and post on Yea Forums complaining about wagies and making fun of people with better stuff than them, in other words their entire existence is a massive cope*.
*Does not apply to rich NEETs
>games should be free
fucking commie get the fuck out of here with that shit
Nobody cares. You NEET incels are just as much worthless leeches as the tranny racking up medical debt.
Thoughts?
>Wagies aren’t respectable
Yeah cause when a girl hears someone is unemployed living in his moms basement they get all hot while if they hear he got a good job, friends, power and money it just dries them up. Keep telling yourself that.
>inb4 who cares about girls
You do, virgin fag. And you talk about respect how does it feel knowing 50% of the world will have absolutely zero respect towards you?
Get a job, loser
>retail worker of 14 years
>contemplating murdering the next person who ask me a dumb question
>take a break
>everything is roses
do it user
Very nice.
Their salary is far higher to compensate you dumbass, the minimum wage here is 446 euro a month
But the NEET consooms vidya and porn all day. Are you retarded?
You are the problem. If we simplified our lives down to the basics and did away with this incessant need to constantly be buying utterly useless trash then we'd be a lot happier. Choosing to live a simpler, natural life where we worked based on our own base needs. Allowing us to take care of the important things, raising a family, working on your own homestead, helping your tribe.
Well I've been working part time at a grocery store (night shift) the last 4 years doing the exact same shit. I miss waking up in the morning.
I understand this
"The Bootlicker Pledge"
Brother, I'm not a NEET. I work for a living.
Mike Rowe is a corporatist cuck who was handed a wealthy lifestyle who pretends like he earned it and shames others for not being in his shoes. Basically, he's your average rightwing boomer, a hypocritical projectionist.
You are retarded motherfucker.
>get bunch of money
>get to meet coworkers who might be cool people you can relate to and hang out with
You really can't take two days out of your busy schedule for that?
That sounds rough. What about trade jobs and stuff, blue collar work?
What country?
I've been a NEET since July and I've been waiting to hear back from Master's programs I probably won't get into. At least I finally got around to picking up some hobbies.
No. Work is slavery.
I'm not a commie, infact I'd rather games be gone but if they must exist they should be free and those who make them expect nothing back, we have job shortages in other fields, make those artist who go no where be more productive, like in a grocery store or a parking officer or even more police
They may not seem the type but force them enough in and they will have to adapt
People who work for a living don't sit on the internet and cry about trannies begging for money
Work is work. You're doing a job, and in return, you are given money.
I don't recall slaves getting fucking paid.
There is literally nothing more emasculating than to ask money from your family past the age of 21. If you get to 30+ as a NEET, it's over. At that point you have the life experience of someone who just graduated high school. You have literally no memory of note past high school. Think about that.
>yeah I have memories of playing videogames in my 20s I also have memories of...
Oh fuck off. Why should people simplify shit? There's never been a better time to be alive than now. Fuck being a serf in the 15th century and just raising a family. I can do that now while having things I want.
Are you utterly retarded? They're luxury items that multiple people slave over for months. Who the fuck do you think you are? Why would you be entitled to that entertainment?
Do you really just not understand the most basic of economics?
You're a teenager, aren't you?
Motherfucker the japanese are paid by hour and at minimum wage if they worked 8 hours for 20 days on minimum wage it'd come as roughly 1150 euro
Hungary. I think those actually pay more, they are high in demand, but I'd feel even even less interested in those than my office job.
>dude just live in a hut bro
Lol
Well they are, by all standards. At the very least a wagie provides for his fellow man, some small way.
Neets dont contribute anything. They dont even create interesting online conversation, just cope threads like this one.
Being a wagie is 100% more respectable than a neet. If you're a filthy neet, just accept that you're trash and live your worthless life.
Fucked up hard
You can't tell me what I do all day. Even if that were true it's still preferable to work.
Do I count as a neet if I make money passively on youtube?
>NEET cope thread
>all this avatarfagging
One who has to work to survive is a slave. It's just modern a form of slavery which creates an illusion of freedom.
I think you might be confused.
M-maybe working your penis, you stupid coomer
>we have job shortages in other fields
lmao that means theres too little jobs for the amount of people seeking
you realise that every company ever wants to keep costs low by employing as little people as possible right? now take into account technology constantly making it so you need less and less people to produce
and even then the only thing a human being minimalistically needs is water and food everything else is "for hobby/entertainment" theres no real purpose to do any of those things other than "muh productive!"
Forget the "consoomer" meme shit. Any able bodied NEET is a parasite. how do they feed themselves? Their fucking parents buy them the food. Without their parents they would be starving in a gutter with no electricity or internet access.
The difference between a penniless NEET (you) and a 'wagie' (me):
Your income spending time shitposting on Yea Forums: janny level ($0/hour for you clueless retards)
My income spending time shitposting on Yea Forums: $30/hour
I bet I also actually enjoy the time I spend playing games more than you.
I have been doing nofap for the past 6 years now.
I'd rather have the ability to control my life and not leave my fate to my parents at my big age.
>m-mom can I have some money I need to b-buy game
Loool
You may surprise yourself, but maybe not. Take a look at it. Electricians, plumbers, welders, mechanics, HVAC technicians, etc. It's decent work for decent pay in most places. And, if you care about this sort of thing, you can know at the end of the day that you're actually physically accomplishing something.
>could have been a neet as my school being a special school helped me get disability pay for only slight developmental delay that really just means bad at numbers in everyday life
>can't keep up with games on this free money nor good food
>become wage slave in low end retail
>thru frugal living I can afford fun shit despite doing menial shit
>10+ later still low end not promoted because I can't handle leadership roles mentally, but basically just wonder around doing whatever I feel needs to be done just because I handle the shit no one else will
>people question my role but for some reason when not present the store literally falls apart
>therefore untouchable
I work with utter idiots and apart from customers occasionally making contemplate suicide this isn't so bad, as they say it only takes *one* bad person to make a day go bad but its rarely any more than that
If I could I'd rather be a neet, or a youtuber, but I'm not entertaining enough and my work is my only form of exercise now
I can't believe they put away an 8 year old lesbian, wtf is wrong with society
1. true if america were changed more broadly to western-style 1st world country
2. true
3. absolutely false, wtf??
4. true, but sort of meaningless
5. true but debt is sometimes impossible to avoid
6. not always, no way
7. this is true in someways but dont be a bootlicker and have a spine and people will be grateful for you and good things could happen
8. this is objectively good advice
9. this is also objectively good advice
10. as life goes on, this becomes more evident. heed this advice wisely
11. this is objectively good advice, however shitty that may make you feel. you cant change a damn thing just sitting back being jealous
12. there is a happy medium somewhere in all these things and all things should be done in moderation and leisure time is obviously essential
I dont think people ever look at this boomerific picture with enough thought. just my two (12) cents
$30/hour? Not bad. 40 hour weeks, overtime?
The only type of NEET I'd want to be is a trust fund baby NEET. And even then, I'd be going out and seeing places and investing in shit.
Go back to this post If you can't figure it out by yourself, your country education system is absolutely garbage for producing retard like you.
Also exchange rates for euro to usd is 1:1.1.
If what you mean is GDP per capita it got nothing to do with exchange rates.
Mike tends to get the broader strokes of this sort of stuff right, I just tend to disagree with some of his finer points. I like him personally.
Yeah, most of those types are out traveling the world on a blank check. I'd do the same, honestly.
What have you done to "control" your life? Where has that gotten you? Why do I need this "control"? "Dude just live my way or I'm gonna shame you!" I feel absolutely no shame. People give and I take. I'm doing what I want to do which makes me satisfied with my life.
>need money to buy food
>need a job
>all jobs are automated
>become youtuber/twitch person because you think you're entertaining
>get demonitized because your rants about trump being evil are classified kid friendly
>no job
>no money
Honest question, if we automated everything which we are damn well close to, how do we get money, I'm sorry but I've been curious to how much we can automate before we have limits, government can give us all neet bux when all of our cashiers are now terminators?
40 hours, no overtime. Basically as cushy as you can get.
Everyone has to work to survive, retard. If society weren't there for you leech off of others' efforts you would be outside trying to get potatoes to grow or fishing for your meal.
>Feeling that I'm going tipe 2 A
*can't, I'm a retard but I'm also a curious one, can't be the only one thinking where will it stop (apart from third world countries who still have fuel pump boys filling petrol tanks)
By that logic you're just a slave that has to survive on the scraps you're given by your parents. You're a slave to your own body. You pretend you have freedom, but in reality you're confined to your prison where you sit on Yea Forums all day, masturbate to porn and steal shitty video games while wrestling with guilt, shame, self-hatred and depression.
Wagies are building their skills and value. Neets are drooling retards who can’t think about the long-term consequences of their actions. Eventually your parents will die and you will be fucked.
You okay, man?
I have control over every part of my life. If I want to buy a car, I can buy a car. If I want to buy a house, I can buy a house. I have the means to do literally anything I want at the moment. And I don't need to rely on anyone, not even my family.
And no, I'm not shaming you, no need to start coping with the smug images as well. I'm stating the facts. As a NEET, your life is under the control of someone else. They have the say over you, as a man. If you can't see how fucked up that is, there's no hope for you in any stage of life.
>while wrestling with guilt, shame, self-hatred and depression
Not all neets suffer from those, a self imposed prison isn't a prison to the one who built it
I ain't no neet but I know one, he just bs's to the government and gets his neet bux, and despite voting being mandatory he skips out with some really wild bs excuses
It just means cup noodles everyday and listening to his crazy mother go on about some bs everyday for him
your folder of smug anime characters(over half girls) betrays your point
>If we automate everything like we're close to
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about
Good luck automating anything above a burger flipper tier job
i want to be wagie again but i can't find a job around here that is not some entry level shit like being a waiter or crap like that, fuck my country
its worse than you think, there's a lot of jobs right now that are basically made up fake jobs that could be completely removed with automation
but they are kept in place by government regulations among other things due to the fear of economic collapse, its gone beyond planned obsolescence. Were at a point the they basically put taxes and "safety requirements(more taxes)" or other nonsense just so people don't loose their jobs. There's a hilarious amount of people today that have jobs that are completely meaningless and they go around thinking they're being "productive"
life is a fucking joke at this point
>wagies still can't deal with the fact other people don't slave themselves for mr. goldberg and waste their lives working
there are so many ways to make money from your own home office, you all act as if you wouldn't ditch your job if you had enough money saved to live comfortable, like being a worker is your natural state that gives your life any meaning
The original post was about imagining if you had to pay almost 300$ for a 60$ game, it's not a perfect analogy but it still showcases that it's pretty fucking expensive where I am.
In more blunt terms, whereas the american minimum wage is 7.25$ dollars per hour, which would come down to 1160$ per month if going by the previous 8 hours a day for 20 days, where a 60$ game would be 1/19th of the monthly wage. Here, however, and because Steam game pricings are the same for both euro and dollar, a 60$ game would be 1/7th of the minimum wage. My original "almost 300$" wasn't solid, I apologize, but the exchange rate is still fucked, and the game might as well be 180$.
Motherfucker. At least it's not as bad as the russians whose minimum wage is 200$ and the exchange rate is so fucked that Steam actually gave them supremely discounted pricing for games
Hits a little too close, doesn't it, kiddo?
>Not all neets suffer from those, but my friend does
Wild, man.
>chapotrannyhouse and /leftypol/ retards now try to shill comrade Bernie in NEET threads
What part of that makes sense, you estrogen-addled cretins? What part of the USSR, China, or any other commie nation seems NEET-friendly to you?
What are you doing in that free time user? Posting on Yea Forums. At least I'm getting paid while posting on Yea Forums.
And working is not being under control of someone else? If your boss were to tell you to come into work now or else he's going to fire you, then you'd either have to rush into work or go job hunting again. Your "control" is merely an illusion. I already have all I want so your way of life doesn't apply to me.
Soviet propaganda art Is fucking kino
>Not all neets suffer from that
This is the biggest lie they all tell themselves
I got lucky. I spent most of my neet time learning to program and draw out of a seething, burning desire for acclaim and validation on a forum I joined. That way I met a bunch of talented people with same interests and then almost ten years later we decided to try and work professionaly and it worked.
Butterfly effect is fucking terrifying. I'm scared to think of what my life might have turned out like if I never met the people I did.
All i see is dollar signs
>many ways to make money from your own home office
Entrepreneruship isn't NEET.
I pity you. Genuinely. You have no idea what it means to me to read these insane ramblings of a mad man. Thank you, from this day forth I will happily go through life knowing that at least I'm not you.
>crying wojak behind a smug wojak mask
>been in my first job in a warehouse for about 8 months now
>used to be full time but I couldn't handle it so cut down to 3 days a week
>still make about £950 a month
>haven't even worked at all in the past couple weeks due to being suspended with full pay after some USB sticks went missing and someone blamed me
>there are many ways to wageslave from your home office
Bravo, NEET. The reality is that you're too much of a pussy to make money, period. Holding this "work at home" cope in your back pocket isn't going to keep you afloat when your parents kick the bucket.
If I get fired for whatever reason (extremely unlikely given my role), I have more than enough money to get another role. Job hunting becomes an afterthought when you aren't a college graduate. This is what it means to have control over your life. Anyway,
>continues to cope with more smug images
Listen man, we all know what's really happening here. I talk about NEETs from a position of experience, having been one. It was an excruciating time. Stop advertising it as if it's a good thing.
in fact to add to this, RIOT that made League of Legends basically got so fucking huge and successful that they expanded and hired a fuckload of people that had basically bullshit fake jobs
why? turns out when you make a massive amount of profit taxes are much higher if you have a lower amount of employees, so they hired people just to make more money from the lowered taxes
does that sound like thousands of jobs for the sake of "being productive"
when you watch 5 electricians placing a light fixture because there is fucking nothing else to do its fucking mind boggling
Do cyclistcucks actually believe this?
Some hardcore delusion of someone who made this after being hit by a car for the third time
>dozens of off-topic threads deleted
>this one stays
What did the moderators of Yea Forums - Video Games mean by this?
Exactly. That is the life that has been chosen for you. Endless pursuit of resources so that you may acquire a bunch of pointless things.
Why do NEETs always post these smug anime girls? What is there to be smug about?
>Your "control" is merely an illusion
Well said, NEET. As soon as your host dies, you die. The projection suits you.
we dont need truck drivers, we already have automated trucks going around, we can ditch taxi drivers too and tram/train drivers thanks to the same and similar technology, pfft fast food and low end retail as well as back of house related stuff is fucked.
The only thing I can think of that can't be automated is IT, someone needs to fix those machines, oh and customer service ie the complaints department.
I might be stupid working minimum wage, but I'm just curious, not like it'll save me when the axe comes down
I agree, my role is basically meaningless at my work, I only have relevance because I show up in customer surveys (positive mind you but that's what years of experience can show) and even then under the corporate hammer I'm not necessary
But I guess it's better than being a neet, I'd rather pretend than just be bold about it
Sounds pretty based
Most NEETs I've met are dirty, poorly fed, live off of government stipends, and are poorly socially adjusted.
I don't know? I think it's like the pedophiles on this board: They're smug because it's all they have, and also being smug about being a shithead gets you free (you)s.
Thank you for the projection, NEET. Brilliant entertainment.
Im slaying pussy as well though
Why do you care? Go make your boss and the foreign investors richer, wagie.
>being able to buy anything you want
>pointless
And when you need something, you ask your mom while aged 30. That is rock bottom.
>ragie instantly saying that cyclists should naturally get hit by cars
I asked this before, but what is
>Your country's minimum hourly wage
>your currency exchange rate to USD or Euro
You can't automate a lot of trade work, especially something like plumbing.
The variability between house styles, makes, materials is too large to leave to a machine.
Their actual faces look something like this so they hide behing le smug animu gurl
How do I stop been a fresh graduate and get a single fucking job?
As I said, pointless things.
Not should, they do
If you think it's bad here, try making a wagie/neet thread on /biz/.
Nah cu
Now that I think about it:
Lawyers, social workers,some artists...
>446$ minimum wage per month
>4.8
The exchange rate actually got worse from the 4.7 I thought it was
Kinda.
Mostly I've just been tired and sleepy recently because of my sertraline medication.
Me at IIA, but I've actually had that hairline for as long as I've had hair.
I'm a dairy farmer. It's pure fucking labour with no breaks working in the cold with no time for video games.
Okay, third world monkey.
Well, if that is true, they wouldn't admit it, everytime I brought it up to my friend he just "meh" and explains why he's fine
I can't even use his passions against him, he loves initial D, cares too obviously, but no car no license and hardly leaves the house apart from seeing a movie with me (I get ticket discounts and he hates waiting on home releases).
So I let him be, if he offs himself I would only get the hint when he stops giving me the latest gaming news
>omits the part where I get richer too
Okay lol. I think it's time for you to play that new 100 hour porn VN. After all, you need something to sink all your free time to.
Poland?
they got any proof of that shit or they just got connections?
>failed normalfags still trying to shame people for not following what's socially acceptable
You are slaves to your own greed
I know this is gonna suck user, but you gotta do some low tier jobs and temp work. Make sure you also apply to at least 10 proper jobs a day. One of them is bound to reply.
I can't quite see artist as "necessary" despite the joy they bring us but those make sense, didn't even think of trade jobs considering I accidentally convinced a friend to NOT be a plumber because he can't literally do maths (and from my father has demonstrated it's more than clanging metal), thus born another neet
Follow the golden rule, lads.
Actual NEET here, I'm depressed and suicidal, I feel like shit for being a useless fuck parasitizing off my parents, I have no real skills and the thought of going out the house frightens me
/end blog
The longer you stay a neet the harder it will be to work when you eventually have to. Suicide is going to skyrocket in the coming years I think.
>32 moderators
Given Yea Forums I thought they would use riot.gg or some other alternative if they thought the IRC became obsolete, Discord keeps your data. I guess it's more convenient. Isn't the server supposed to be secret though? As in, only janitors and staff get to be there
I don't mind the fun threads that aren't deleted like this one because it's maintaining some semblance of community on Yea Forums beside a fuck-ton of smash bros threads, and not just a dumping ground that people from other sites come to shitpost in while all the actual discussions are happening in their communities
Not really.
There was CCTV of me in the area where the sticks went missing but after they reviewed it, it was clear I wasnt picking anything up.
Apparently they're still waiting for other people involved to come back from holiday so they can question them.
keep trying, do ANYTHING, while also looking for that dream job, it may suck when that temp job becomes your life or drags on for a decade but you need some form of security, just bail if the place treats you like shit
being a drone in an unhappy place isn't worth the money, just don't land yourself in a situation where you have to endure and or give up on your dream job ie a family
>wow you want to have some money and not ask your mom for money? N-NORMALFAG
LMFAO, this is a new cope.
>acquire a bunch of pointless things
Like food and shelter?
>mommy gibs money for tendies
>NO
What then?
I know what you mean, and I hope I'm being pedantic.
You are mixing up exchange rates with minimum wages.
Exchange rates is dealing with, you know currencies, not wages. Exchange rates and wages are related especially in terms of global trade because of purchasing power. But your problem is more about low wages your country (which using Euro) rather Euro being weak against USD.
Yes. I will accept anything that I want which is given to me. I don't care if it's from my mom, your mom, the government, or whoever else. I take and people give. As I already said I already have all that I want.
My bad, it's riot.im
It doesn't help that there was a coordinated effort months ago to spam some unofficial Yea Forums riot server on Yea Forums
The shift to an automated society is going to be an exercise in filling up empty space.
Most people don't have productive or fulfilling hobbies outside of their job, I'd say that if you took jobs out of the equation most people
would succumb to aimless depression.
We already see kids en masse moving their socialization completely onto the digital sphere, and what have we got for it?
A ~40% increase in adolescent male suicide since 2007. That's the same year Facebook went public.
>sell shit online
Literally a job
>streamer
Literally a job
>titty streamer
Need money to afford the pretty titty skittles or be born a girl
>get someone to become a titty streamer
Why would they share their money with you?
>patrons/donations
Patreon is pretty milkable but you still have to do something to draw people in. Still a job.
You realize he dropped out right?
would said people be reasonable or high risk of them sucking up to the usb guy just because they possibly know each other?
If a reality check is "shaming", then your shame comes from within. The posturing is a very flimsy and transparent coping mechanism.
>pseudo-intellectual nonsense
but now that you bring up failed normies post that comic about the types of people who browse /r9k/
that might let you save face somewhat
>implying I live with my parents and not my own apartment
all this projection and non arguments is very sad, try again
Does anyone itt actually have a cool, fun job or do most of you work boring IT/engineering gigs?
I asked for hourly, so it can easily be compared to 7.25 usd or whatever
Are you saying you make that much regardless of wheter you work 20 hours a week or only 5?
>Like food and shelter?
Don’t you have parents?
>Wagie never makes threads about NEETs
wrong
poe is the most successful arpg to ever exist.
Your point is moot.
user. Wake up. You don't look like the right guy on this image. That guy would most likely work and not rely on his own mother to live past 21. This gigachad meme has made you victims mentally ill.
Not sure.
The rep from the autism organisation who got me the job and helps me out with work related issues said there's no guilt intended at this stage of the investigation.
>A ~40% increase in adolescent male suicide since 2007. That's the same year Facebook went public.
Jesus christ, and I find facebook enjoyable, twitter seems more the culprit but it's been years, but this makes sense, I listen to a few older clients and the thought of retiring scares them
Glad someone acknowledges these as job, we may laugh at E-thots but at the end of the day it beats flipping burgers or being at a strippers (well its the same but more control)
I torture myself working and drinking on a cruise ship for several months at sea
>tfw 26 year old worthless neet
>tfw years of poor posture sitting in a shitty chair all day has left me with such backpain that i cant stand for over an hour
Im doing some stretches, hopefully it clears up soon. I want to be a wagie.
Thankfully not actually depressed or mentally unwell, just too ashamed to interact with my family
>Stirner is pseudo-intellectual nonsense
read a book, oh wait you're too busy making money for mr shekelstein
You're already using /r9k/ lingo and arguments, there's nothing to project here.
Here come the lies:
By the end of this thread he'll somehow be a 6"11 chad who CHOOSES to not work
The end result is the same no matter what you do. You work, and that's what makes you a slave.
That’s pretty based. What’s your job on the ship and how many guests have you fucked?
Work = Slavery is essentially the "i didn't ask to be born" of NEET arguments.
The ONLY reason this argument holds ANY water is because modern society has so much excess that you can actually coast off of it.
In reality, the world demands work from you constantly.
Even Stirner recognized the importance of human interaction, and that's how you know how many of these faggot NEETs are just POL refugees, quoting the same fucking "spook" memes that are basically a Wikipedia level understanding of Stirner's work.
Same with the faggot nihilists. It's a retarded, immature kid's phase.
Romania
The whole problem boils down to how much of a dent a game is in the salary. I'm not saying I have minimum wage, but games feel like as if they cost triple the amount than in other, more economically well countries
I don't work on minimum wage, but that's how monthly salaries work. If you can't really attend the hours, you get punished or fired but it really just depends on circumstance and context. You can't walk 2 hours in after your shift started to start working
According to the NEET fantasy, this is when they'll kill themselves or force themselves to put on an act for government gibs. In reality, they'll end up on the streets or a shelter while suffering day to day.
This one knows the truth deep down, but with how easy it is to play make believe on Yea Forums, he can just tell you anything he wants to feel like he's won in some way, another coping mechanism.
Even if it were 10 bucks I’d still pirate games
Making any sort of money that doesnt come from government benefits or family means you are self employed and also makes you a "slave" to this so called "system" according to NEET logic.
What's the alternative, NEETs?
Even in a small commune, a nomadic tribe for example, you'd be expected to carry your weight.
do you know those people that they need to check with or too distant from you to know?
I hope it goes well for you, I had that shit happen to me long ago except I was the bad guy, did something I shouldn't have done, anger management issue as a hint and because the person in question was well connected with the crew the deck was against me, but least that autism organization is there for you (if they quite literally that), I had no one and just backed out so least I could say I quit my job rather than be fired.
I got my life back in order and made up with people but would not want to get into that again
Post the Sierra screenshot next time.
The good part is that even the most hardworking wagecucks die too.
Their money won't help them escape from the grim reaper.
Death is the ultimate equalizer, pretty based if you ask me.
So unless your career helps you attain immortality, you are no different than the rest of them.
A slave doesn't get paid.
And you have no control over you own life. Other people make decisions for you. I wouldn't wish that fate on my worst enemy. But keep coping with the smug pictures.
>do you know those people that they need to check with or too distant from you to know?
Pretty sure they work in a different department
The ultimate NEET fantasy is a post apocalyptic world but somehow electricity still works and it’s easy to get supplies.
Guest services and zero. The fucking usually happens between other crew members, but doing that and being stuck on a floating hotel is a one-way trip to drama town.
>tfw a mix of type IV and III
>23 y/o
just end me
I see, whelp good luck
thank you
>one person dies having experienced a lot of what life has to offer
>another dies knowing only the confines of his bedroom
I'd pick the former, thanks. I've been a NEET for 3 years, so I know all the NEETs ITT are flat out lying about how happy they are.
Why don't you just find a job doing something you like?
Is there anything else besides video games and anime?
You are a wageslave You get paid enough to sustain yourself but you have no future and no ownership or say in anything. That's literally like a nigger on a plantation.
The only thing that matters in life is being able to afford rent.
>Currently have about £6,500 in my bank account along with £2,700 (from my grandma) in a savings account
>That's probably more money than 1/3 of people my age have.
The world you live in only exists because of the excess provided by others.
What happened if that dried up?
im just confused how you got hired over the asians that do the same job for a quarter of the pay
This would be a really based point of view if you were self sufficient and not just sitting on a dirty mattress somewhere eating a cup noodle leeching from all the people you claim to be better then while bitching and moaning about how its societies fault and thinking yourself some deep thinker like an edgy teen who just took their first philosophy course. Get your life together you sad sack.
>attain immortality
>get money
>invest heavily in biomechanical companies
>get yourself the first man-machine interface, which obscures the true horror of this monstrosity
>shove your brain in a robot body
>feel nothing
>taste nothing
>smell nothing
>fuck up your brain due to severely disrupted biochemical processes
>augment your brain
>become machine overlord or die to a random malfunction
Yeah, but you're earning something from it. Fuck NEETs.
We should just fucking cut off their social security until they can get jobs.
The world is garbage as it is because our combined surplus labor goes to a handful of people instead of being equally distributed for the benefit of all. Work is not the problem. Work for the benefit of a handful instead of the many. Capitalism vs Socialism.
Which is why I fully intend on getting a job as soon as I get out of school
The world you live in, your life, is propped up by the excess of others.
What would you do if there were no social programs?
You and I have something in common at least; we can decide our own futures. You choose to be a colostomy bag to your parents, and you will eventually regret that decision. The only question is when. Meanwhile, I'll choose the right future for me while increasing my health and wealth not just for me, but for my family and future children.
And you? More coping with smug imagess? Let me try that.
Commie
Look man, I am just trying to get some accurate approximation of how much games cost in your country relative to your wages. Your country only has salary and no wages employees? I didnt ask about you I asked about your country's hourly minimum wage.
Either way at 4.8 a 60 dollar game should cost like 288 and maybe even up to 300 depending on taxation differences which is like 2.5 usd aka fucking nothing.
So either you are just in some poor shitty country or can't understand math.
Given your minimum monthly salary this seems to be both, according to you the minimum salary is like 92 US dollars a month which is what my gross income will be just for today.
So this isn't a matter of games being more expensive in your country but rather people in your country making less money.
No make a roof over your head, electricity, gas and water a human right. Stop licking the boot of 3 billionaires. We together produce enough wealth to sustain everyone. We don't have a scarcity problem we have a distribution problem.
>can't use words
Not really but no point in replying to you anymore, you will assume everything is a lie and a cope.
Please enlighten me then, I don't need to "win", I come here for discussion. I have a decent life having doing jobs from my home office in my apartment, I don't have expensive needs or accumulated debt, I'd rather be homeless than to slave for someone else.
I work with people, not for them, most of the time we split the gains depending on our agreement/contract.
It is a human right.
You have the right to pursue shelter, electricity, gas, and water at your leisure.
No one is obligated to provide that for you.
A slave gets paid by being fed. You are no different. I have control over all I care to have control over. I do not care to live in some fancy city. I do not care to go out drinking. I do not care to go to starbucks every morning. I do not care to eat at some restaurant every saturday with friends. These are all things that YOU care about, things that you're willing to work for. I am not the same as you.
What would you do if we got rid of capitalism?
I tell you we would still go to work together with the difference that we all equally benefit. Instead of this shit show we have.
>minimum salary is like 92 US dollars
No! It's in euro!
>the NEET refuses to answer the question
So, really I should just zero in on this:
Will you stop laying around producing nothing when capitalism falls?
>We should just fucking cut off their social security until they can get jobs.
I want to agree to this but after some time in the Philippines seeing homeless literally born and raised on the streets I seen a side of welfare I never seen before
Some people legitimately need money and while a few waste it on booze drugs etc some live very tight lives, but if they get no money if they aren't taking jobs you wouldn't wish on anyone else they become literal parasites, if not trash they go around bugging people for change, worst part there is if you give them food they snap and say money only (but these are owned by crime gangs who can amputate limbs just so you feel more obliged to give)
Neets need to be given and MADE to work, don't take aware the welfare, rather shove them in roles with training, I'd rather see a former neet working for half the minimum wage on some checkout rather than on the street being worse than a rat
Retarded.
A human right means it is provided by the combined surplus labor of all. Everybody in society deciding that their surplus make sure no one has to fear being homeless. Instead you all fear homelessness and destitude to produce billionaires.
If you use /r9k/ lingo, it's already over then and there. /r9k/fags are literally lowest of the low lol.
>Please enlighten me then, I don't need to "win", I come here for discussion. I have a decent life having doing jobs from my home office in my apartment, I don't have expensive needs or accumulated debt, I'd rather be homeless than to slave for someone else.
Lies and cope, but who are you really lying to? We already know the truth.
Australia basically does this and it annoys me that my taxes goes towards them
>have a job
>have my own flat
>Mom is still "user why are you so akward with girls?"
Unfathomably based wagechad
Honestly, I fully intend on getting a job because the alternative is dumb. I'm a man who doesn't really indulge in just about anything, so a job isn't exactly going to cut into my free time
I work but I have nothing against Neets. We produce enough wealth. The wealthiest 3 billionaires in the U.S. – Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett — now have as much wealth as the bottom half of the U.S. population combined. We don't have scarcity. It's fake. Made up. Our surplus labor is distributed badly.
Why do you assume unemployed people must live with their parents? Does your country not have some sort of social security system?
can't please them all user, my parents gave up when i turned 30
Fucking this, anyone who has ever lived on welfare or been dead ass broke is just fully aware that this "enlightment" that NEET fags claim to have about "the wage cuck" is purely invented to try and create a facade about their own miserable lives and how unhappy they truly are because they have no control over their lives, so they project that into people who do and try to play their suffering off as some sort of choice while claim that those who dont agree with them are in fact the ones who lack the choices they so desperately desire but cannot bring themselves to attain.
t. Was a NEET for a while when younger, along with just periods of unemployment being a generally poor sod, was never happier for it.
Former NEET here. Socialism/communism is appealing to NEETs because getting proper training or schooling to get a good job seems like an insurmountable obstacle. However if we were assigned a job I think most of us could do it competently.
They aren't "your" taxes. You pay for the privilege of living in society.
That user is a dumb cunt but tradcon scum like you belong against the wall.
>most basic of economics
you're right
games should be free because they're aviable in unlimited quantity
Tell that to my boss then
So your monthly salary is 92 Euro, that is hardly a difference user. 11 USD difference up to 103 which is fucking nothing.
I am pretty sure even mexicans make more money than you.m, u less you are mexican sorry.
>However if we were assigned a job I think MOST of us could do it competently
Thank you, was gonna grill you until I saw this
Honestly, I've taken several jobs in my life. Only reason I had to leave was because my paid internship was up. And I was oftentimes considered a really good employee.
>Walgreens employee
>Worked at a senior center
>Worked at an aquarium
You dummies do not understand that it is not interest of capitalists to pay you wagie what you are worth. You will never get what you deserve. The capitalists will squeeze every value they can out of you with paying you as little as possible. Many Americans work and are still homeless.
Without a job or school i'm so bored I could kill myself
Vacations/holidays are hell, videogames dont stimulate me enough anymore
I'm getting more than being fed though. For example, I bought a home gym with my money so I don't need to waste it on gym memberships. If you wanted a home gym, you'd have to ask your mom and she'd say no because it's expensive. You're withering away at home and posting on Yea Forums for free, while I get paid to shitpost. I don't work so I can drink starbucks lol, I work so I can work towards things that matter: raising a family, having a nice environment for my children to grow, building a legacy.
And no, it's not that you don't care, it's that you don't have the MEANS. You don't even have the means to buy a set of underwear without aksing your mother for gods sake. All you'll see in your life is your own bedroom. Your parents spent all that time raising you only for you to become an amoeba like this.
Seems like you some complex going on.
Not surprising all things considered
I like what you're saying but that shit ain't gonna work in (current year)
37 yo and still 2a, fuck yeah
> If I want to buy a car, I can buy a car. If I want to buy a house, I can buy a house. I have the means to do literally anything I want at the moment.
You don't have the means of doing any of that within your own control. You're entirely at the whim of the car dealer, the banks, the developer, the real estate agent, etc., etc., etc.
You're entirely dependant upon others no different to how NEETs are dependant upon other aspects of society.
You can't even build your own car or home without being entirely dependant upon those who create the materials, raw or otherwise.
Is it just me or this board is getting dumber in general?
and yet user didnt post his age
Well most neets here are far too beta and autistic to do manly trade jobs like plumbing or electrical work so that wouldn’t work out well.
you post shows you dont get the problem. nobody who works should be in poverty. paying someone half minimum wage isnt going to get them excited for the next day of work to live for another day of work. if you want people to work and a job needs to be done. then make it worth their while. or dont bitch when they wont work. and like i said before if someone works they shouldnt be in poverty or somethings rotten about your system.
21
>everything I don't like is a lie
this is your final (You)
Not him but what is the alternative?
The NEET attitude is dangerous and society would collapse if everyone was lazy. The very game you're pirating had loads of money and effort dumped into it so your fat lazy ass could play it, I dont care if you pirate games tho, just more annoyed with the neet attitude that everyone should do shit for free for neets. This is why noone likes neets, it's very ugly to see a fully grown man leeching on societys leftovers. I like work, it gives me a sense of accomplishment and pride knowing I have use to other people, rather than being a neet who provides nothing but just takes, if wagies stopped working your fat ass lazy lifestyle wouldnt be possible. try to see the other side neet.
What happens when you retire?
Games don't always help, make some friends, get another hobby (model building and toy collecting are mine but there are more interesting options), I feel for you but when you retire one day it will be confronting
i'm 4 month to wizardry, i wonder how long it takes to master lvl 9 spells
So you live in a hostel with immigrants? That's even worse than living with parents kek.
When you push the NEET into a corner too much mods pull the plug and prune the thread
Every time
Wonder what that's about
So?
Worker coops and socialism.
I plan on working until I drop dead anyway, I don't want to retire.
I have hobby's besides videogames, but boxing/fitness can't be done 24/7
>older people stop using the board
>younger people start using the board
its what happens
well since people around your age spend it all drinking i guess you're right
>So you live in a hostel with immigrants?
The fuck? How did you come to that conclusion?
Who are you quoting? Is this more projection?
Ive been a neet for 10 years after working for almost 10 and would never willingly choose anything else. Maybe you can get work you enjoy but for me, the only thing I want from life is to sit in my room jerking off and playing video games. A minimum wage job, which is the only work I will ever be able to get, will still be there when I need one.
I didn't even go to college since I lacked good enough grades
No! The minimum wage salary is 446!
>I'm a exploited nigger on a plantation but unlike you niggers I'm going to have the best nigger shack on the plantation for my master
That's what you are. Lumpenproletariat.
Honestly, I avoid pirating games, but I still don't pay money for vidya. Why?
Simple. I only play F2P games
Try going outside for once.
I rely on society in that I need there to be a car dealer when I buy a car, I need there to be an estate agent when I buy a car. That's something universal to everyone in society, why do you say this as if it's an argument? This is how society works.
However, that neet doesn't have the means to do so. His life is at the whim of his parents. My life isn't at the whim of my parents.
Bernie isn't USSR communism, he'll give NEETs even more autismbux. With a post like that, you could probably get in on it to you retard.
>I work
Straight from the horse's mouth, folks.
>doing jobs from my home office
YOU ARE NOT A NEET
Yes you retard, you are better than me. Is that what you want to hear? I am some slave to goldberg jewstein somewhere while you work for yourself? Of course I wish I were doing that, you retard. That is not what this thread is about. You are not NEET. You pay taxes or at least are supposed to. You contribute to society. You do not leech off the government or your family.
This is a thread where people are trying to justify being a complete waste of space. Their fight is not yours, they hold your way of life in just as much contempt.
>sitting in a room jerking off and playing videogames all day
its your life but you're going to feel like shit and have so much regret on your death bed.
I'm personally willing to pay £15, but sure.
From what I've unconvered, mods are NEET, alt-right, incel, coomer zoomers who secretly love Nintendo more than any adult should.
That half wage is just an bad example, I honestly feel though poverty is more than just the job itself, its everything, when pay rises happen food also goes up as do production cost etc
Shit needs to come down and better systems in place to keep the unworkable working, before I went to the Philippines I used to think taking away welfare about force people to seek proper work but when you've seen kids, fucking kids...jesus.
Half minimum wage is a joke, but just giving them free handouts and "hope" they get employment down the line as they make excuses to keep the free money doesn't sound great especially when the government suddenly makes budget changes and gives them less money|
How about you see the better perspective what you are? You are wageslave for a capitalist that uses your surplus labor for his own benefit.
You exist a millions of times. That means the combined surplus labor of millions goes to a handful of capitalists instead of benefitting all of you.
So. How's your bedroom treating you? How do you live with the concept that you'll never be able to amount to anything in life? Because while I may be a "Wageslave" by your standards, at least I actually have potential
Fucking NEET. You're a parasite in every possible way.
That's how shit works in my country. If you're homeless and unemployed, you get put in a hostel where the government searches jobs for you until they find ANY, be it janitorial or a garbageman. Or you become a hobo on the streets. So being a neet with parents is better.
>This is how society works.
Then you must understand that you have no real control over your life in a meaningful way which distinguishes yourself from the unemployed or unemployable. You're a glorified slave of the owner class.
>However, that neet doesn't have the means to do so. His life is at the whim of his parents. My life isn't at the whim of my parents.
Why the fuck do you keep bringing up this parents bullshit? Society security is a thing. People don't have to live with their parents.
Are you an American or some shit?
He's lying
If you push him hard enough he'll make up some bullshit about having made half a million in crypto currency or something
Socialism is the next step just as capitalism was the next step after feudalism and slavery.
If hedonism works for you, I hope you are ok with eternal damnation.
While true some based oldies still maintain fitness some of us "kids" can only dream of, but yeah can't pump weights from dawn to dusk you'd only hurt yourself lol
Getting “autism bux” in the U.S. is pretty tough compared to other countries. You legit have to be disabled or have severe mental impairment like schizophrenia or something.
>That's how shit works in my country.
Then you live in a shithole.
So what should we do to fix it, just sit around in our parents house throwing a fit about it like you?
You know how I know your full of shit? Because if you really were as "enlightened" as you claim to be, you wouldn't be living in your parents house sucking on their teat still like some whiny entitled baby, surrounded by the modern comforts of the capitalist system you claim to despise so terribly, you would be out in a fucking cabin somewhere living off the land and making yourself fully self sufficient, and proving that society doesnt have to conform to the model capitalism presents us in order to survive, but you dont do that, you prop yourself up with some 2 bit philosophy you found on a YouTube channel at 2am while you were stoned eating your 5th bag of cheetos and crying. Now think yourself some higher form of thought because you just "dont buy the system maaaaaan" "I'm not unemployed, I just wont roll over for this broken society maaaan" when you are doing less then the average "wage cuck" is, and just leeching off of the society you claim to be better then, get fucked you hypocritical man child.
And why should it? To be frank, I don't care because I'm perfectly okay with what I'm given as a result of my job.
The weird thing is, every NEET you meet here on Yea Forums has a golden opportunity that they're literally throwing away to play shitty modern video games. That golden opportunity is working while having living expenses and utilities paid for by their parents. You can save up an incredible amount of money when you aren't paying rent/mortgage even with a shitty entry-level or minimum wage job.
Love how you're criticizing captialism but yet your sucking on it's teets not to work. Everyone has potential in their own way, I may pay tax but I still get by and am happy.
You retard talk to someone that's working. And you are still lumpenproletariat. A wageslave not understanding that he's a nigger on a plantation without a future. That's everybody is except a handful of billionaires under capitalism.
>Ive been a neet for 10 years after working for almost 10
Stopped reading here. You became a NEET after having worked for a decade. This is about being a true NEET, with no work experience nothing.
And there is something wrong with you mentally if all you look for is the next coom.
Not everyone has to live with their parents, you dumb cunt. Not all of us live in your shithole country.
>I wish I had worked more instead of enjoying life however I wanted because I was too afraid of what other people would think of me!
Social nationalism
You keep talking but you don't talk about what being unemployed and NOT living with your parents entails. What happens?
Fun things are fun. There is not as much fun bullying neets as we have nothing but our freedom.
446 converted 4.8:1 to Euro is
92 Euro or 103 USD
And according to you this is a monthly salary. It is dirt poor.
NEET threads used to be full of people bragging about getting em, but I'm a fucking leaf where its way easier so i have no idea.
I still think Bernie will only help put more autism bux out there.
>you're not lazy enough for this thread
hahahahahaha
A nigger. Uncle tom nigger.
Good for you wageslave. I'm sure your capitalist owner appreciates you.
Ok. I do calisthenics and cardio 5 days a week. I do not need a home gym. There's also a bunch of old weights laying around the house I can use whenever I'd like. I'm not interested in working for anything you listed. I already have what I want. You brag useless pride. My parents don't care what I'm doing either. Most of must've just had abusive parents if you're this paranoid about what your parents think of you.
>MFW my parents live with ME.
Feels good, man.
And how's your future?
I mean, my post doesn't apply to you if you're just a regular, old scum-sucking NEET. If you're so angry why don't you move out of your shithole country, then?
the legitimate ones just lack motivation, I would be one if I didn't hold down this minimum wage job for years despite people ALSO for years telling me I should step up
that comes from within or if you got alot of support, if no one around you gives a shit or are the slightest bit depressed you're stuck
From what I’ve gathered a lot of NEETs in these threads are from Germany. Apparently it’s super easy to cheat the system there and live practically indefinitely on government handouts.
Why do you neets think once you work all of your life is gone? You can pursue other goals in life while not working, work can just fuel those goals. For example, I wanted to pass my driving test so I could drive a car, my job backed it up and here I am with a driving license, I wanted to have a meal with my friends, my job provided that opportunity. You'll be in your death bed thinking "I wish I stopped fapping all day and doing nothing and tried to be something".
Didn't read. You know I'm right and just throw a hissy fit since your NPC brain short circuits.
Glad to see you have nothing to say to my fact because you know youre a fat lazy piece of shit hypocrite. Keep sucking on welfare you worthless parasite.
>A slave posting smug pepe
>Refusing to be a slave means you are lazy
This month I take a disability pension (for not leaving home) feelsgoodman
And the alternative?
Lol I can't believe you tried to use how society works as a means to put me and that neet on the same level. That's not how this works retard. When a billionaire needs to buy a house, he needs to talk to an estate age. Does that make him have no control over his live? You fucking retard.
I have far more control over my life in a meaningful way than that neet does. Stop trying to argue this; you won't get anywhere with this because it's fucking stupid. Stop being stupid. Hell, even a graduate earning 25k a year has more control than a neet earning 0.
How is this thread still going?
Are the mods just impressed by the small shred of intelligence that is here or are they also discussion life threatening shit with us?
I work and have no welfare. And you're still a wageslave. A lumpenproletariat. A nigger praising his master while picking cotton.
The youth is smarter.
i did that for two years then quit working cause working sucked ass and i made more than enough money to last me a lifetime for my neet needs
Honestly working out and eating healthy is the biggest thing I miss about neet life. I used to wake up at like 6am, go for a run and then eat a healthy breakfast. Then I’d usually take a late morning nap. It was amazing. Now I work in an office and I’ve steadily put on weight because it’s so much harder to motivate myself to get to the gym or go out for a run after work.
>o-oh shit... w-what do I say to this, I-I have no retort....d-didnt r-read....y-you know I'm right!
Kek, thanks for proving my point you hypocritical faggot, none of you NEET shit armchair philosophers ever have a response to basic logic that requires you do anything other then sitting on your asses and crying about shit.
>Earns money and the right to own property
>Slave
Also, I'm a man who really doesn't want much, so my lifestyle is sustainable.
Yes.
I do have a problem with it.
I don't care about rhetoric about billionaires and socialism, the fact is if you want to appropriate a portion of my labor so you can sit on you're ass then you're a fucking parasite.
NEETs can hang for all I care, at least artists produce art, NEETs produce cummies to anime cunnies. Useless.
Trust fund baby here
I think wageslaves have way more reason to be smug than penniless NEETs.
To be clear though, nobody can be as smug as people who had loaded parents like me.
I've only had fulfillment jobs at retail stores. Thee pay is decent considering you're basically shopping for other people.
>I work
>Calling me a wageslave
Glad to see your ashamed of being a neet and then insult me for being a wagie and then saying you work to avoid shame of being a neet. Not on welfare? Feel sorry for your parents who enable your lazy ass lifestyle.
I can speak three languages and people prefer someone handling their problems with an american/english accent.
My parents were well off. I left them as soon as I finished high school and never contacted them again.
>p-please billionaire master t-take my surplus labor.. let me make more profits for you! Yes m-masta we are just cattle! All these lazy cattle need to die masta
Kill yourself.
I'm not a NEET and even I can recognize the benefit of not having 1/3rd of my day (not including commute) used up for someone else's big money profits. Most of us have accepted that trade off but I feel like I could easily be more productive in less time.
You don't earn money, you are given a pittance for your work.
You have no rights unless the government(the people with the guns) says so.
no one gives a fucking about your stupid fucking jap cartoon
N-No bro you don't get it! I'm like Stirner or these other quotes from people I don't know!
I'm unique because I go my own way! Sitting on my ass playing video games is the same thing as being a poet!
Suck dick, neets.
I'm self-employed you faggot leech.
No, I just think being a man means you shouldn't rely on your parents after a certain point. A man is financially independent.
>he doesn't want a legacy
You want to be a cool wine aunt?
>all the wagies seething in this thread
God I'm so happy I have a job so I can afford to buy things I enjoy.
>The youth is smater
>WUBLAUBUBDUB DUB
>JOKER WAS THE BEST MOVIE EVER BECAUSE IT SHOWS A SAD MAN IN A SOCIETY
>SCHEUZAN SAUCE I NEED MY SCHEUZAN SAUCE
And the parasite does?
>no one gives a fucking about your stupid fucking jap cartoon
>all these rules
>just sits around and masturbate to anime porn
NEET cope isn't even funny, it's just pathetic.
You can't shame me slave. You are the one defending your capitalist masters on a chinese forum. This system may force you to work for it but you fully believe in it. You are scum.
ok boomer
>dat feel when II A
You are a neet. Sorry pal working 3 hours a week isnt real work. You just doing retard employment. I work for me and my future.
Whether or not you care about what your parents think of you is one thing.
If your parents dont care if you are able to fend for yourself someday then they are by definition awful parents.
>implying
imagine being proud of being a loser
this includes wagies who accepted to live in mediocrity instead of improving btw
We're the reason you get any of this
Didn't need to be said.
this is a terrible thread that shouldn't have been up for so long.
Can't wait for all the psychoapths and sociopaths to get put in concentration camps so capitalism is finally over.
I AM SILLY: The Comic
>infographic
discarded, NEETs will truly cope in any way possible
give us your daily schedule right now
Stfu wageslave bootlicker. It's one thing to work for capitalist niggers it's quite another to be a pathetic defender of these vermin.
Start your own business in your community, then.
Live your ideals, show your love for the fellowship of man like Stirner preached.
No? Just video games and anime porn? How predictable.
Still better than any given “What are some games that X” threads with some /pol/ webm.
NEETs getting dabbed on
NEETs by definition dab on themselves.
I'd rather call you what you are as God is my witness. A wageslave. A nigger on a plantation praising his masters. A fucking nigger.
No! The minimum wage is 446 euro!
>1/3rd of a day
>3 hours a week
It's impressive you found a job when you are clearly unable to read.
>the guy who wants to stay home and live off of other people's money is an idpol christ larper
POTTERY
>I'm self-employed you faggot leech.
Don't make laugh nigger. You are a servant to capitalists who have the money.
>p-please let me work for you capitalist master, p-please share some of your wealth with me
NEETs got destroyed ITT. Even the anime girl images stopped because reality set in.
I can read, just don't believe your dumbshit lies neet. Now go pick up those glasses for 3 hours and get your chump change boi.
NEETs are a waste of space
>the leech who does nothing all day is some idpol loser
POTTERY
GAS GAS GAS
>these are the people that keep calling you leech and have given 0 good arguments after 400+ replies
time has more value than any kind of wage can pay
>A wageslave defending his capitalist master is a godless heathen
Disgusting and pathetic.
Post ass neet bitch
I just recently stopped being a NEET, and I know you wont listen because I never used to either. I want you know that I know that you are lying to yourself, because i used to do the same thing with the same bullshit excuses, and the same dumb buzzwords to try and feel better about where I was in life, and i just want you to know that it doesn't get better, and you will never actually believe the stuff you are saying, you need to get your shit together, go talk to someone, I know that it's hard, really I do, but you need to break out of this weird mindset, because it's not healthy, do it for you, not anyone else, you will feel way better, I promise, this is not me talking down to you, because I was there, I really do get it, just try to get passed it.
PSA:
IF YOU ARE SELF EMPLOYED STOP PRETENDING TO BE NEET AND SHITTING ON WAGIES
WE GET IT NO ONE LIKES JEFF BEZOS AND ELON MUSK
Proverbs 19:15
“Laziness casts one into a deep sleep, And an idle person will suffer hunger.”
Get fucked you actual waste of space.
reality is a neets kryponite, they hate being reminded that their stuck in their static lives while "wagies" are moving.
This feels so true tbqh work feels like a place i go when the sun rises and wait for sunset. Literally trading my days for some measly money.
Former NEET here
Shit was fucking dreadful. What did I even live for? Everything became boring, mundane, awful. I existed but I didn't live.
Being a wagie isn't great and it isn't fun but it beats wasting away doing nothing. NEETs do nothing, they are nothing.
I don't know how this is related to the thread
Moving towards death.
Get a job doing something you enjoy.
Self-employment is a scam. You are still a wagie knocking on the capitalist doors licking your masters boot.
It's called reality neet. Heres one you can't deny, I work, I pay tax. you get some of that tax to support your fat ass life style. If everyone stop work = no tax = neet no get money = ur fat ass life style stops.
>Get a job doing something you enjoy.
i enjoy playing video games and shitposting on 4channel.org
God loves only me you bible quoting godless slave.
Wagekeks seething ITT
Post the rest of the infographic, the mouse was funny
I wish this wasn’t such a case of easier said than done. Doing something you enjoy for work and actually making a decent salary from it is unfortunately incredibly difficult to achieve.
Then die. No one cares if you want to stagnate the rest of your life.
Never gonna make it.
"Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."
Oh sorry, turns out even God hates NEETs.
>every person that works is stuck in a low dead end job
Why do NEETs assume shit this much, but then get mad when we assume that their life is dogshit (which it is).
See this is part of why I know you lot are full of shit, if someone was truly happy with being a NEET, they wouldn't talk about it, much less make weird propaganda like this around it, because the way the NEET life works is only around people who work giving them their leftovers, so no truly happy NEET would willingly point this out to people, they would want to keep the secret to their extremely happy life to themselves as not to draw in more people and have it potentially crumble around them. You faggots play yourselves at every turn.
You don't work for the collective you absolute retard your surplus goes to your capitalist master. We don't work for the collective in capitalism.
imma be real with you for a second, do you actually enjoy sitting in your room all day constantly smashing F5 on all your opened threads while jerking off? Do you never just feel like you're going insane because you're doing nothing? Like I can't imagine your life being awesome at all, if I get 2 weeks off work I feel insane.
>tfw shitposting all morning in
this thread on my phone from work
How about both, nerd
II A here
I'm fine with this as long as it holds
It's NEET cope.
Proverbs 12:11
Those who work their land will have abundant food, but those who chase fantasies have no sense.
I don't know I just get depressed if I'm not doing something, I'm signing up for welding school coming up because it seems like a good mix. It pays well even at entry level and I can go pretty much anywhere I want and do whatever the fuck I feel like for long periods of time. I can go and work for a few months, stop and use the money to travel or just play vidya, and pick it back up when I need to. I've worked too many basic bitch minimum wage jobs to go back to that shit again, its almost as bad as sitting around with nothing to do
Not any faster than the NEET
They assume the worst case scenario and use that as fuel to justiy their shitty neet lifestyle. They dont understand how things are, how much better they have it. 100 years ago, if you were a neet you'd starve to death because no one gave a shit about you. they dont realise how good they have it.
Lmao so you admit you are not better than any wagie slave? You are still nothing but a servant to the rich.
You ever felt needed user?
God loves only me you can stick your nig proverbs up your slave areshole.
Absolute best thing about NEET life: afternoon naps
>he doesn't jack-off in the WC
wtf man, I'm a waiter and I masturbate at least 4 times a day in workplace because my collegues are hot.
it's fucking nice being paid for it.
I have more in life than Yea Forums.
They tell themselves that in order to be happy in life, they need MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, anything less and they would just be miserable "wage cucks" since they have never actually lived outside of the safety net of their parents, or if they have it's just on the pittance society grants them to stay alive so we cant expect them to have an understanding about something they believe is a lie and have never experienced otherwise because they wont put in the minimal effort.
He pays more taxes than you, retard. The only problem is they never pay enough.
They understand it completely, just look through this thread:
They have decided that BECAUSE everyone else produces so much they should BE ALLOWED to just lay around and mooch.
You can keep saying "you're a slave", but the reality is you're the one beholden to whatever Gov. Check or parental oversight that allows you to waste away as a NEET.
The fact is, you're a slave to our excess income. I'm hoping Trump cuts that tap off soon.
The leech looks up at the human, a mouth full of his blood, and says: You're the slave here!
9
Incel NEETs are some of my favorites
did he get unjusted
thats what needs to happen, government needs to stop giving handouts to people who dont need it, then the reality will set in that "oh fuck i have to work otherwise i will starve and be homeless"
I work you retard and you're still a godless heathen slave defending your capitalist abuser like an uncle tom. Kill yourself you soulless golem.
change NEET to (minority of choice) and watch /pol/ explode. Same concept, just swap lazy nigger for NEET
>he’s become something of a local celebrity
Kek always gets me.
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
kek
Suck dick, no one wants to listen to some High Schooler's take on Bioshock's political themes.
Life is one thing: Live or die. Guess which one takes work?
If this is real then Nofap gives you ability of flight. That picture is so absurd I will actually laugh my ass off and eat myself if anyone actually believes it
Yeah his alimony payments ended and he's happy again. God I'd be terrified of ever dating anyone if I was rich, I'd never be able to believe they loved me for me.
No you slave retard. We produce enough surplus that 3 billionaires own half of the american population as wageslaves. You have enough for everyone you just pretend there is scarcity.
Cant speak for anyone else but for me, I never really enjoyed spending time with people (at least, not without the distance the internet provides plus the ability to pick it up and drop it on a whim) and have genuinely never had any kind of dreams or ambitions. I was a kid who coasted through school only ever wanting to back home to play games or whatever and 30 years later have never felt the urge to do anything more. Maybe that could change in the future but at this point I would be astonished if it ever did.
Neets would starve to death if the government cut off your feeding tube.
>uncle tom
And like that you make sense.
Hows it going tyrone?
NEETs, apparently, are just socialists that like anime porn of little girls.
>I'M A PROUD SLAVE
Kill yourself. You are a disgusting godless creature . An animal not a human.
Holy shit this one is probably one of the most delusional ones I've ever seen, like someone who was up crying and gritting their teeth while they smoke the little weed they have left, I swear I can see the person who made this in my head, on their old crusty laptop in a dark room surrounded by funion wrappers and empty noodle cups just furiously working in MS paint to try their dammenest to make anonymous people on the internet feel like they are actually really happy, this one actually makes me genuinely feel a hurt for NEETs.
i'm 19 and 2a. hope i stay that way to be like you gramps, although, it's not looking good.
That second part is literally my dad. He's disabled now, unable to walk, so he doesn't get out much but he spends most of his day just trading stock. Works out pretty well desu, he makes more money than most people I know just chillin
Enjoy my tax money while it lasts, parasite.
Hide behind some more commie buzzwords.
You are a nigger on a plantation. An uncle tom that loves his capitalist master in spirit. Your skin color doesn't matter. Your headspace says enough.
Best saying I've heard in my life. "Don't bite the hand that feeds you". Remember there was a game developer complaining about Steam delaying his game and then the game developer was insulting Gabe Newell and Steam so Steam did the Chad thing and took his game off steam and told him to fuck himself. Game developer cried like a bitch while Mighty Gabenewell crushed him. Same thing should happen with worthless neets.
>there are so many ways to make money from your own home office
TEACH ME AAAAAAAAAHHHH
I work and you are still a slave that needs to put down.
there is no way to make money from your home office, it's just suits taking advantage of your desperation. You pay for their shitty classes and they give you stupid common sense advice.
ehm wagie dont feed us the gubbamint does
/r9k/ and /his/ are the boards with the most pass payers
mods are instructed to leave their threads be
So then what's the deal with the cunny threads?
Mods will delete all the porn out of them but leave them up.
Slaves seething hard ITT
I guess they've been well formed by their masters
>[1]
NEET trying to not get his retarded infographics traced back to /r9k/
>posted from an iphone
Ohhhhh the irony
That user claimed to be self employed so it basically comes down to:
>have skill
>use it as a freelancer, probably in contract with some other businesses
If you have no skills there are shitty jobs where you do call center shit, but from home and stuff like that.
If you repeat enough it will HAVE to be true.