How the hell do we fix him, dudes? Is he inherently broken, doomed to irrelevancy? Also TF2 thread

He was fine for a while but Valve nerfed him because the windowlickers who still play this shitty game couldn't handle it. Valve openly balances this game around the lowest common denominator, which is why Pyro and Spy can't get buffs, so I'd recommend not worrying about it anymore and either playing a different game or figuring out coping mechanisms such as playing Demoman.

he's already pretty good
for some reason Yea Forums examines class balance in terms of 1v1s between 2 people with very high skill level, like "when 10000 hour heavy fights 10000 hour demo, the demo will just instantly hit him with 3 pills and shadenfreunde"
In a team situation with multiple classes present on both red and blu things are pretty different. A heavy can protect his team from faggot flankers pretty well, bonus if he has Natascha and fucks up enemy rocket/sticky jumpers. His teammates can help cover his own weaknesses too, with a medic attrition damage is worthless against heavies, a friendly spy benefits a lot from the aggro the heavy draws to himself.
Also his shotgun is highly underrated, great in situations where you need a bit of extra mobility

concerningly based

can you tf2niggers stop making whining threads? Valve has abandoned you
players have abandoned you
only hacking third world monkeys and furries still play. Just let it go for fucks sake

shut the fuck up american this is third world thread stay out

Does this game even get updates anymore?

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Remember how glorious the Tomislav+Sandvich+GRU lone wolf Heavy was?

hats

one tf2 thread isn't going to stop you from discussing ecelebs and smash

lol no
the only "updates" this game gets is when the two people and a house plant decide Gabe needs more burger bux and they implement hats from the workshop into a cosmetic case

Don't worry, the Heavy update will fix him!

Make every sniper rifle act like Classic

>Reduce max health to 100.
>Reduce movement speed to 250 HU/s (83%).
>Make headshots deal 20% less damage for the first 0.5 second of being scoped.
>Add a 0.5 second delay between clicking M2 and unscoping.
wa la, sniper is still overpowered and heavy is still shit

Well that's sad then.

but how do we fix Pyro?

Give him a minigun

give him a shield he can charge with, but with his flamethrower instead of a sword

>remove pyro
>give heavy a flamethrower with triple range but when firing he moves at half speed like with the minigun

There

Fix'd

revert blue moon changes to flamethrowers & especially dragon's fury and then fix spin2win in a way that doesn't hurt people who actually aim
change degreaser's afterburn damage reduction to -70% max afterburn duration so it has the same dps as other flamethrowers
remove slower holster speed from axtinguisher because fucking why
make the scorch shot only ignite for 4 seconds on splash hits
make the thermal thruster not draw and holster so fucking slowly
change literally everything about the gas passer or add it as a stock slot4 item
make reflecting projectiles and extinguishing teammates drain 10 less ammo than a normal airblast for all flamethrowers (10/15/40 as opposed to 20/25/50)

Buff Pyro to 200 health. Make them slower and noticeably fatter to compensate. Abandon all precepts of Pyro being an ambush class.

Give him higher crit

Reinstate the GRU + dalokos bar infinite health exploit.
Sounds like I'm trolling but if you're walking across an open battlefield having 3000 health is the only way to stay alive without a pocket medic because your big gun couldn't hit the broad side of a sniper as you're crawling at 0 mph.

Heavy's effective range is 7 feet or less and at that range you might as well be a pyro.

Give him a primary weapon that isn't a minigun
He's called Heavy Weapons Guy, not Minigunner.

Afterburn can no longer be extinguished by health packs or medic healing.

You fucking triple nigger why does your post just have that random period, I just spent 10 minutes trying to clean my damn monitor you fucking turbo faggot fuck you cunt.

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Alternate secondary weapon is twice as much ammo for primary weapon

Give him the ability to goomba stomp like a soldier with Manntreads. Does more damage the further he falls and if he has minigun out. Instakill on scout.

Use bananna and tomi.
Jungle inferno fixed heavy more than the pyro. Heavy can finally survive without a medic and has a sizable buff to ranged supression.

If your team is competant you can pop out and shoot. Then heal up with the bananna and get back to fighting. Rarely will enemy players close the gap, and if they try you will typically have a huge chunk of your team to support you.

Honestly the only buff they could change would be to make the gru speed bonus be the norm when heavy swaps off his minigun. Would make shotgun viable and will stop people from being forced to use GRU.
With that heavy would be absolutely fixed in my mind. Save some new positive attribute being added to the GRU.

The more I think about it, the more a Heavy shield would make sense.
Especially if it blocks headshots when active and backstabs when passive, working like the Razorback. Although that may be too overpowered.

Just let him use a shotgun and lunchbox item at the same time, relegating the lunchbox item to heavy's 4th slot

just use lmaobox's anti-spread hack
I main heavy in competitive and no one has called me out for it yet
I can literally kill a sniper from spraying at him from 10000 miles away and I don't need aimbot

>if I use one hack I don't need to use another hack

>being part of the issue

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yes because the whole point is to look legit and not get reported

>heavy killing sniper at range looks legit
What a wonderful look into the world of dipshits that play comp. Thank you.

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you cant keep blaming sniper for everything