GTA IV = RDR2 > RDR1 = Max Payne 3 > Bully > GTA V = GTA SA > GTA VC > GTA III

>As far as visuals go, sure.
Not visuals dumbass, that's one thing that V has over IV, better graphics. Everything else is SHIT.
IV has better content, actual criminal activities.
V has a third less missions, with many of them being walking sections or boring as fuck. Not to mention the side content is shit mini-games, unlike the drug-dealing, car-stealing, gang wars, etc from IV

That's what I just said.

Where?
You said nothing of the sort, you mong

GTA SA > GTA IV = RDR1 > RDR2 > GTA VC > GTA 3 > GTA V

I won't rank Bully or Max Payne 3 because I haven't played them, only Max Payne 1. Also, I put GTA V dead last because fuck multiplayer and story mode is dog shit. From a technical standpoint, I would put GTA V behind RDR2 and ahead of VC and 3. There's so much that Rockstar could've done with GTA V and RDR2 as far as story mode goes and it makes me mad as fuck that they did fuck all with it besides cash out on multiplayer. Now usually, I'd say that Yea Forums is just a bunch of retarded racist incels and paranoid retards with MUH JEWS, but this is the one time where the jews really did ruin it for us.

Finally a legitimate good response.
I really enjoyed RDR2's singleplayer but I respect your feelings on the subject.
For how good it was, it could've been much better had Rockstar not focused on the shit multiplayer. That goes for both RDR2 and GTA V.

SA=RDR≥RDR2>VC>IV>V>3

RDR2's story was decent. The single player was alright it just has a lot of bullshit that I couldn't get over.

>shit wanted system
You massacre a bunch of motherfuckers trying to free some asshole nobody likes and yet you can come right back into the town, no bounty, no nothing because MUH story mission?

>have bounty
>in the middle of nowhere
>literally BUMFUCK NOWHERE
>bounty hunters magically show up and start tracking you
It's just horse shit.

The lack of fast travel. Yes I know you can buy it at the camp. But it's only one way. Sure I enjoy exploring the world, but sometimes I just want to jump right into the next mission. The fact that I have to hold down or mash X for like 30 mins just to watch some shit cutscene is pointless.

>shit characters
Aside from the MC and the drunk chick with the big titties, there's not a single remarkable or likable character that I gave a fuck about. The supposed love interest is just a whiny bitch who couldn't even accept you for who you are, but has no problem running to you to fix her bullshit and problems.

>3rd person vs 1st person combat
3rd person you might as well be shooting a fucking flare gun with your arms duct taped to your sides. But yet you switch to first person and suddenly some bullshit Cattle Revolver becomes the golden gun from 007 and you can aimbot some deputy from across the map.

And I won't even get into the MUH HYPER REALISM, having to bathe, clean, wash, feed, and all that other dumb shit they added that just takes away from the fun of the game. If I wanted to do chores and move hay and shit I'd turn the game off and go clean my fucking house. Rockstar can eat a fat cock. Thank god I didn't spend a dime on RDR2, but I definitely won't be buying GTA 6 unless there's confirmed story mode DLC. Fuck that.

GTA 4 is a great game but this board really loves to suck it off because it has REALISTIC CAR PHYSICS

The physics in GTA IV was fun as fuck. Also, I felt Transporter as fuck, throwing on an all black Tux and killing niggas left and right for the Mafia and shit.

The perfect ranking

You had me until -
>And I won't even get into the MUH HYPER REALISM, having to bathe, clean, wash, feed, and all that other dumb shit they added that just takes away from the fun of the game
None of that is mandatory but I really liked the fact that they included it.

And rightfully so, it's the best game in the series strictly because the core gameplay is actually good, and by far the best in the series.
And yes no matter how much you whine about the emphasis on physics, that's actually the main reason why IV is vastly better

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Cringe

Are you 12?

I contextualize the random bounty hunters showing up as they have been following you for some time, and Arthur only noticed them once they push in to capture/kill him. Also, I prefer the 3rd person combat to first, just my 2 cents tho

please explain to me what the difference in gameplay is between 4 and any of the other main games in the series (San Andreas, Vice City, V, etc)

The main appeal to GTA is shooting, and driving.
And the gunplay, and driving is actually satisfying in IV.

theyre all good you fucking tards. stop fighting over stupid shit.

I initially disliked the car physics in IV but on hindsight it's more fun than V. I dont like how arcade-y V's cars handle, I want it to be balanced between the two.

Also the damage cars in V take sucks, cars hardly deform or anything. Most car crashes just feel like you bounced off a solid object and you keep going with no real impact on their performance. The DLC cars are really bad with this, Rockstar got lazy and didnt really give them a proper damage model or whatever.

An OP that isn't a faggot? What a surprise. I would move GTA4 to under MP3 because all the GTA games are uninspired shit compared to RDR1/2 though. There's a reason Rockstar spent 8 years making RDR2 and only the average on GTA games.

>none of that is mandatory
>don't eat
>lose health
>lose stamina

>don't feed and clean horse
>it's slower
>loses stamina

But yeah tell me more about how it isn't mandatory nigga. If there was an option to turn it off, then sure no problem, but the fact that that shit is forced is just annoying. I want to play RDR, not The Sims.

As good of a criminal and gun that Arthur is, plus can track animals and shit. I find that hard to believe that he'd be THAT sloppy he wouldn't notice some shitty bounty hunters, when he's able to stay ahead of the Pinkertons, that's just a piss poor excuse for a shit bounty/wanted system. I also prefer 3rd person because it just seems more natural and that's how I grew up playing besides FPS games, but it's just annoying that the accuracy of the weapons are extremely hit or miss, but when you switch to FPS it's like instant aimbot.

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The game is still piss easy if you ignore it all though

>the gunplay
not really, i always felt most guns either felt too weak or too weighty, specifically the pistol and shotgun are main examples of that
>driving is actually satisfying in IV
sure? i have no issue with it but i always prefered quick movements like there are in 5, but it is saddening that the deformation was cut back to make multiplayer run better (even though it runs way worse than singleplayer does on PC)

No-one is saying they all "aren't good". Of course they're all good.
Some are better than others though, and it's worth debating considering how close they all are in terms of quality.

VC=SA>GTA4>RDR2>MP3>RDR1>Bully>MP2>LA Noire>GTA5>MP1>GTA3

This is objective.

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>i always felt most guns either felt too weak or too weighty, specifically the pistol and shotgun are main examples of that
Then you must despise V's gunplay. Because it's by far the weakest in the series, literally feels like you are shooting airsoft guns.
>but it is saddening that the deformation was cut back to make multiplayer run better
indeed

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Oh shit, now's my time to shine!
GTA IV is better than GTA V

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>the game is still piss easy
I never said it was hard, I just said it was shit and they dropped the ball, which is very true. They added a crock of dumb shit that nobody asked for nor wanted for MUH immersion and all they just did was drastically ruin any replay-ability the game may have had. Also can someone explain to me why I can't hunt and skin horses? How come I could kill horses no problem in RDR1 but suddenly in RDR2 killing a horse gives me negative honor? I could save ammo and just headshot the horse and drop the faggot chasing me but no, I have to shoot the bullet sponge 8 times to drop him. Watching Rockstar fall from grace is honestly hilarious.

I disagree

the gunplay in V is okay i guess, i don't really like or dislike it, it serves its purpose perfectly

RDR1 > VC = SA > RDR2 > GTA 4's DLCs > GTA 4 > MP1 = MP2 > MP3 > GTA 5 > LA Noire > GTA 3 > Bully > Revolver > Manhunt > any Midnight Club

>including Max Payne 1 and 2
Those aren't Rockstar games you dopes.
They were developed by Remedy

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Doesn't matter, tugnut. I'm counting it if it's had a sequel made or published by Rockstar and the IP is owned by Take Two, which it is.

You're wrong, but whatever helps you sleep at night

Gta 3 is a lot more fun than 4 or 5 or red ded 2 I dont play SA because I dont want to play a nigger and I dont play VC because I dont want to play a nigger

>it's by far the weakest in the series
San Andreas called, you blind fucking moron

No it really isnt you gigantic faggot

Idk I liked some of the gun sounds in SA, some of them had some oomph. In V they all sound like pea-shooters.

Ok then why are you here? Just to whine like the little pussy you are?
If you don't wanna debate this shit, then don't enter the thread you mongoloid.

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Literally nothing I said is wrong. Max Payne 3 is created and published by Rockstar. Max Payne as an IP is owned by Take Two. You are being pedantic and autistic for the sake of arguing to not count it as a Rockstar game.

MAX PAYNE 1 AND 2 WERE NOT DEVELOPED BY ROCKSTAR
RETARD

>boat driving simulator and horse testicles: the game that high
>bland soulless pain 3: absolution that high
>reddit dead 1 that high
>gta sa not on first place
>gta v on the same level as sa
>gta vc that low
>gta lcs, gta vcs, gta advance, chinatown wars, gta 1 and 2, any of the manhunts and max Payne 1-2 (aka the only max payne games that exist) are nowhere in sight
Yikes, imagine having taste this bad. sorry user but I had to be blunt. you need to be over 18 to post here.

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>and max Payne 1-2 (aka the only max payne games that exist) are nowhere in sight
What is up with the zoomers in these threads who think Max Payne 1 and 2 are Rockstar games?

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>hurr durr somebody doesnt take muh vidya gaemz supaseriusly!,!
ill piss in your eyes you fucking autist

And? I never said it was. you fat headed moron. Try reading, it would suit you.

>ill piss in your eyes you fucking autist
good luck aiming that high with that tiny cock of yours

>You are being pedantic and autistic for the sake of arguing to not count it as a Rockstar game.
The game was not developed by Rockstar, therefore it is not a Rockstar game, even if it was published by them.
They had NO hand in creating the games, therefore it's not fair to compare them to other games DEVELOPED by Rockstar

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by that logic la noire, rdr1, red dead revolver and manhunt arent rockstar games either

LA Noire and Red Dead Revolver were not developed by Rockstar, so they are not Rockstar games.
Red Dead Redemption was developed by Rockstar San Diego, so it IS a Rockstar game.

Max Payne 3 shits on all
RDR2 is just unplayable for me

But RDR2 has the best gunplay next to MP3?
In fact, the gameplay director for MP3 was in charge of the combat on RDR2.

>tiny cock of yours
Yes.

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No one cares about just using whatever games that have only been developed by Rockstar besides you, you peabrained faggot. Using them as an umbrella term is the point because that's what you do for wider comparison.
>B-B-B-B-BUT THEY'RE NOT ALL FROM ROCKSTAR
Okay, fatso?
Not all Rockstar games are from the same studios either. How would it be fair to compare those either? Retard.

oh shit, you're a tranny. my bad

anything that is published by rockstar is a rockstar game you fucking mongoloid
stop trying to play these gay as fuck femme-brained "b-b-b-but well they didn't develop it.." bullshit games, no one cares. they have their name on it, it's their game.

>How would it be fair to compare those either?
Because they are studios under Rockstar using the same technology as them, and getting help from other Rockstar studios?
Remedy had 2 games published by Rockstar, that doesn't mean they are part of Rockstar's developing teams.
Not that hard to grasp

>tranny
im not mentally ill enough to pretend im a girl lmao

>mongoloid
Listen faggot, for one- come up with your own names instead of copying them
Secondly, Max Payne 1 and 2 would be very high up on my list HAD THEY ACTUALLY BEEN DEVELOPED BY ROCKSTAR.
Developer =/= Publisher you fucking FOOL

Do you know what a publisher-developer relationship is at all like you fucking cretin? Rockstar literally had to save LA Noire's development.

And no, a game like Bully which was developed by Rockstar Vancouver ran on an entire different engine than something like Midnight Club which used RAGE and was done by San Diego. But okay, keep talking about shit you're uninformed on. For the sake of argument. Autistic freak.

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are you retarded OP
do you need disability assistance

> Development tools were made available for Max Payne 2 by Rockstar Games and Remedy Entertainment to allow players to create modifications for the game.
>Development tools were made available for Max Payne 2 by Rockstar Games and Remedy Entertainment
> Development tools were made available for Max Payne 2 by Rockstar Games

Please, proceed to tell me how Rockstar SAVED Max Payne 1 and 2's development, or if they had any involvement at all.
You're lucky Sam Lake isn't here to enter bullet time and shut your ass up, because he'd be fucking disgusted to see that some little faggot is claiming that his games are Rockstar games.

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Woahhh! The publisher is mentioned in the games patch notes!
That's insane!

cope of the century

The only assistance I need is a crane to lift your mother off of me

That doesnt make sense you idiot. I'm the only one who can decide if im a tranny or not. This is stupid now dont @ me.

Jesus fuck you just barely avoided making the worst possible list. I can't even fathom putting GTA4 above anything. A cactus on fire shoved in my dickhole is better. The only reason I think you're not too stupid to breathe is you didn't put either RDR at the bottom.

Here's a comparison, you saying that Rockstar developed Max Payne 1 and 2 is the equivalent of saying that Take Two developed GTA

no one ever once said they developed max payne 1 and 2 though

Cutting your weiner off doesn't make you a woman user, it makes you a tranny...

Then they aren't Rockstar games then, right?

I still have a dick you absolute retard. And im not trans.

if they are published by rockstar then they are associated with rockstar which makes them rockstar games, idiot

Filtered

So you're still in transition?

Okay then, I'll concede.
Next time I make this thread I will include them.

Im not fucking trans for the last time lmao. I just take estrogen and cd sometimes because i enjoy looking like that i guess and people think it looks good on me.

Too bad the AI is retarded and the animations are obnoxious.

>I just take estrogen and cd sometimes
So let me get this straight...
You shove compact discs up your ass like you are a human record player?

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Yeah totally you absolute retard

What does it sound like when you fart?
And when you shit does it come out like a pancake?

lmao you retard, did manhunt scare you or something? its ten times better than rdr2 and la noire