What went wrong?

Nigga do you even block

NO MORE TURN BASED COMBAT

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...That has a UI that works awkwardly in a ATB-based action game

clearly its just the tutorial dialogue

Nothing. I'm absolutely hype as fuck. Got the collector's edition ordered too. Fuck the "nu-tortanic" memers.

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Nothing it's GOTYAY

barry's mom didn't swallow

Nothing went wrong. Square is back. Final Fantasy is back. There is absolutely nothing you can do to stop it.

I sure hope so. I was really shit because I wasn't even in danger most of the time, just slightly below half hp

maybe you should stop taking damage

I will start.

>no original voice cast, only Ameriturd's voices
>Aeris
>Digital Only
>action RPG instead of the classical turn based combat which is based as fuck
>simplified HUD
>Crisis Core is canon
Game is shit, bros.

I mean for example, we have tons of dialogue like "hit this do this" and shit, but obviously its for the tutorial

I really dont see tifa, aeris or cloud saying "HIT THOSE HORNS, USE FIRE!" or some shit.
If they still say stuff like "need to heal" im just gonna lower the voice and thats it, it really doenst matter to me. I lowered the voice volume and it really was a pleasant experience, lowered the anime grunts volume did wonders

>Digital only
Are you posting from your igloo or something?

What the fuck is that suppose to mean?

as opposed to a physical demo? OPM died over a decade ago, dude.

I don't like Zoomer Core either, but barely any of your points have anything to do with the gameplay.

it's literally the same UI as any ATB based game. Maybe you should play on Classic if you can't handle hitting the d-pad down twice and X

Did the original have voice acting? Or maybe your a muh jap voices weeb faggot...

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he's calling you a luddite hick

The game is not digital only you moron

How is the UI difficult when it's slowed down for when you use it? What is your IQ user?

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Whatever nerd, I cancelled my pre-order and I won't buy the game until the has japanese voice cast.

Listening to americunts is pig disgusting.

He's going all out

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Yes it is. You fucking idiot it’s even on their website „DOWNLOAD it now.“ nothing about a physical copy

My only concern is if the actual game will have the near 0 load times that the demo had. I was impressed.

Yeah I would have gotten this version if not for the fact that it's the exact same figure they've had for sale since 2015 with a bike

You bros own a PS4 Pro or a Slim?

oh so you're just trolling with 1/10 effort.
Cringe

>Jesse was annoying with that generic Square harmless female voice. Going all "My Hero!" and shit felt really fucking forced. I saw her on the trailers and thought she was looking hot as shit but it was just a big disappointment.
This. Even Cloud and Barrett told that thot to shut the fuck up.

That nigger ain't me, he is pretending.

I wasn't trolling.

I never said the game was hard, easy, or whatever, i'm saying the spell system doesn't flow well with the game at all. It's boring, awkward, and clunky to stop the action to fire out a spell. And you're bullshitting on it being like the other games.
In other action RPGs there's usually a hotkey system. FF7, a game were you're constantly switching out materia, can't implement a hotkey system. Fuck out of here, the materia magic system was one of the best things about the original FF7 and this remake is already showing bad signs of ruining it's legacy.

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Played it on a pro today.

If you skip the cutscenes a loading screen appears so they hid all the loading behind them. Very smart and worked really well.

Yeah sure here is your (you) faggot

who the fuck still listens to cds lmao

It's literally the same spell system you fucking moron

kinda boring, camera and lock-on is shit, the AI for the character you aren't controlling is garbage. Also no playable RedXIII in the full game so fuck it.

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You get 1/10 of a game for a full price.

Fuck you nigger. You're just mad you couldn't counter argue my original post.

So you're just retarded.

Is this a shitpost or is it not going to have dual audio at launch?

which was?

>noooooo i need my weeb cast
L M A O

it's just boring

Zoomer Core isn't even canon, just referenced, they literally said this is a new canon.

>game completely remade from the ground up
>"it's only one t-t-tenth of the game!"

It's not just a remaster, a lot of new shit has been added. You're an idiot.

Trying to do ANYTHING defensive is such a crapshoot. There's not proper way to cancel out of an attack and defend and the dodge has no I-frames.

I didn't like it, it looks cool but its full of flaws
>combat is literally just mash square up then switch to triangle to deal more damage
>constantly break the flow of gameplay to use spells and abilities, instead of including a quick bar to use them on the go
>barrett is an absolute snoozefest to play as offers nothing engagin other than mashing down the square button and pausing for more spells
>scorpion bossfight was literally a pain in the ass, had absolutely no challenge and drags out for 20+ minutes
>combat feels clunky
>only difficulties available are classic (which plays the game for you) easy and normal
This shit took them over 10 years to make? and it isn't even finished yet?
Nomura tried to mix turn based+real time action and it comes out as an incosistent mess of constantly breaking the gameplay flow.

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>no animation canceling
>no i-frame
That's how it should be

>S-Sorry! If I don't talk I start freaking out!
Women, everyone

I can't wait for 20 hours of fetch quests.

>>constantly break the flow of gameplay to use spells and abilities, instead of including a quick bar to use them on the go
but you can

Ok.

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dodge is gonna be useful with deadly dodge
Its better to block
But yeah, you have to time stuff. You want to play agressive, you are gonna get shat on if you dont pay attention.

Honestly the battle system is serviceable at best but kind of boring. I also really hated how their running and dodging was so fucking slow and ineffective.

Like user's have already said, Jessie was annoying and obnoxious to the point that Both Cloud and Barrett told her to shut up at separate times

Bigs and Weddg seemed pretty cool and looked like dudes I would grab a drink with.

The whole thing with Shina watching them plant the bomb, leave, and blow up their own reactor was extremely fucking retarded and makes zero sense.

Sephiroth pandering was equally annoying and forced.

On the whole, It was pretty whatever and I feel like the music is probably 85% of what holds this game together and why people feel nostalgia for it. Not really sure I'm going to bother with this game anytime soon by I'm definitely going to get the soundtrack.

It was announced last June that the final version would include the English, Japanese, French and German voice overs.

>no i-frame crutch
thank god

>constantly break the flow of gameplay to use spells and abilities, instead of including a quick bar to use them on the go
L1, user

pretty much this. Also finding out RedXIII is not playable was the nail in the fucking coffin for me. He participates in 4 boss fights, come the fuck on Squeenix.

>20+ minutes
you should try following the in-game instructions instead of banging your head against a wall doing ineffective attacks.

>scorpion bossfight was literally a pain in the ass, had absolutely no challenge and drags out for 20+ minutes
Scorpion can be beaten under 4 minutes if you know how to actually play the game
But you are an animefaggot so of course you dont

Honestly the corridors in the reactor look kinda samey and at one point I was backtracking after a fight.

Is that confirmed? I thought it was just shitposting

>pay $79+ for 1/4 of the game when I can just pay $16.99 for a full game
Why bother?

eurogamer.net/articles/2020-03-02-red-xiii-isnt-playable-in-final-fantasy-7-remake

Don't forget Red XIII is the endgame for this remake

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>pay $79+ for 1/4 of the game when I can just pay $16.99 for a full game

Ok, do that then. Why are you here? You've got a full game to play.

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Don't forget this is only Final Fantasy 7-1 so he's only gonna basically show up at the end of the game because this one is only Midgar

He'll probably be playable in Final Fantasy 7-2 onwards.

No red flags in the demo. Plays great, looks great, sounds great. Problem is still just how fucking thin they’re stretching this game and what Midgar is actually going to be. What stories they give the minor characters and all that. There has to be a ton of side shit we haven’t seen yet, which is what I’m curious about. Or concerned maybe.

The only concern I really have is how much are they going pad out Midgar considering they're making it an entire game instead of a section of Disc 1

The mako reactor environment was really uninspired and lacked the art direction from the original. It didn't "feel" like FFVII.

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It looked exactly like the original.
The fuck you smoking

It really fucking didn't

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It was literally the mako reactor but in full 3D

agreed. it all looked the fucking same. Really boring and sterile.

ur fucking blind m8

the mako reactors in og ff7 had pipes and steam everywhere, it looked rundown as fuck. remake's mako reactors look futuristic and what someone with no imagination would come up with when asked to describe a power plant in a sci fi story

>Lack of Vsync
>Weird audio mixing
>No controller vibration
>Barrett's dub
Did I miss anything?

Is barry gonna be okay bros?

wops and spics btfo

I predict anons will be shitting on it in full force one week after release after the initial hype has worn off.

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Yeah, the intro with the train felt off too. It just didn't feel as epic. Something about how they directed the movement of the scene and the music. Cloud's triple aerial off the train was overdone, I liked how in the original he just handstands off it.

Overall the entire area felt more sterile and less gritty than the original.

I did have fun with this, but the aesthetic of the original is way better and I feel like the biggest problem with it is so much of it is going to get lost in translation going to full 3D and focusing on style.

>that chocobo chick summon
>that carbuncle summon
This pic is fake, isn't it? Squeenix can't have gone even lower, right?

Jesus Christ, I thought I was nitpicky about this game, but you fags are on another level.

Just don't attack when the tail is up.

FF7 is a fucking immaculate game that has incredible mastery of cinematic language despite the limitations of graphics technology at the time.

The length of shots, cuts, and art direction do actually fucking matter, you braindead zoomer. Is Avengers Infinity Endgame a better movie than 2001 a Space Odyssey because it has "better" special effects and is newer and shinier?

This isn't a place for normalfags. Begone.

>Imagine being autistic enough to play the same 1 hour demo over and over again for the next month.

Someone on here will brag about playing the demo for 50 hours or some shit and all they did was play the same section 50 times like a retard.

In the original FF7, Jessie was really worried about the first bomb explosion being bigger than she thought it would be.

In the remake it was revealed that the Shinra President wanted to make a show of Avalanche's actions being dangerous to the citizens. Enough so he have enough clout and support to enact his extreme plan of getting rid of Avalanche by collapsing a plate.

FFXV-2.

>I wanted this game to fail so hard
Such disgusting behavior.

spbp

that's the gayest shit ive ever seen and i have a dick fetish

Wasn't part of the reason Barret was so pissed off in the original FF7 the news reported about the bomb's collateral damage and the citizens talked about all those injuries? This was somewhat after Jessie's talk about the bomb explosions and why she felt so guilty later on.

>scorpion
>20+ minutes
lol scrub

Streamers are already speedrunning it

Hahahahahahaha

it's not supposed to feel like OG FF7

The voice acting is cringe. CRINGE. IT'S SHIT! Play in Japanese because you will feel nothing in English and that will make you sad.

Of course they are, because they have nothing better to do. The original FFVII has a speedrunning category so when the remake comes out you'll have speedrunners playing it 24/7 looking for glitches and shit. Even though I think a 100% category run of FFVII is pretty long, like 8-10 hours or some shit.

Shut up weeb

letao.is-a-geek.net/ff7script/part1.html
Jessie:

Oops...

Hey, look at the news... What a blast.

Think it was all because of my bomb? But all I really did was just make it like the computer told me.

Oh no! I must've made a miscalculation somewhere.

dunked on FFXV too hard.

>spell system is as shitty as FFXV's colorful friendly fire grenades
XV has by far the worst spell system ever.

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 7R BROS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR TIME!!!!!!!!!!!

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Are you okay

ANYONE have the recent video where barret and cloud are in the elevator and barrets freaking out while cloud is calm

Goddamn that's too much of a difference.

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Calm down, you autistic fuck.

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>what went wrong?
No PC demo

D-delete this... t-the full game isn't out yet how can you say there is no jump button???

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so its supposed to feel worse?

>I wanted this game to fail so hard
What's wrong with you people?

Are you retarded? 7R magic does fuckall compared to the magic in XV which is extremely powerful, magic is also slow as fuck in 7R. XV has fire line, blizzard line, thunder line, combine with bio, instant death, stop, multi/duo/tri/quad/quint cast, expericast, curecast, healcast, any of the party can use these, plus the elemental weapons, holy, death and alterna on noct ring, graviga on machine which Noct and prompto can use, ignis has his own unique fire, thunder and Blizzard magic with overclocks to mix fire with thunder etc.

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First two points are moot because you can change the system language.

No, he’s already coping hard as fuck and all he can do is claim the whole game’s shit because classic mode exists.

I'll be honest. I went in thinking it will be absolutely shit, and it was.

Needing ATB to do anything but attack is a lame anti-fun mechanic. Blocking is just take half damage, what's even the point? It's not like it matters as you just heal the damage you take either way, but apparently blocking makes it more skill based? It just wastes time, especially in the boss fight that drags on long enough as it is. All the bosses attacks interrupting you was annoying. If you use a potion then get interrupted then you don't heal, use a potion, and lose ATB. Dodging, just like blocking, is another unecessary mechanic to give the illusion of depth when all you need to to do is hold attack. The voice acting is mediocre at best and annoying most the time along with the dialogue and feels like it was written by college grad females. The whole laser part was pathetic filler that even had to be obnoxiously explained to the player via Jesse's comments. Yeah, i get it squeenix, i go when the laser isn't fucking up, does that really need to be pointed out to me? Constantly switching between characters to do optimal damage as they don't use their strong abilites ever is more like a chore than an exciting mechanic, and i was irritated by it immediately.

This on top of everything else i abhor about this game, from the episodic to the fetch quest filler garbage and the altered story genuinely makes me despise this game and every last fan of it.

Fuck every last one of you pathetic hype lemming bandwagoners.

I liked it. It is basically what I wanted since FF Versus and it is an improvement of what they delivered with FFXV. It did feel like a series of corridors, so I dont know what to expect for the final game in terms of exploration and scale. This makes even more evident that they need the PS5 to open the overworld in the next chapter.

Sephiroth pandering is to be sure the most likely thing to completely shit up everything associated with remake. Sephiroth rimjobbing and Cloud angsting ruined FF: Advent Children with "oh sephiroth is back because he has to be" like a turd that just won't flush down the lifestream, in defiance of the actual game showing not only has Sephiroth been dead for years while his residual echo was really just Jenova.

>what went wrong?
it's still a 2hr game, Midgar...for 60$.
Not even Talltale is that bad.

>camera can be finicky even after messing around with options
>general enemies are far too easy and even shock troopers get killed easily with parrying
>bossfight cutscenes cancel whatever you're doing which leads to potential wasted limit breaks
>AI is god-fucking-awful
>body language looks fucking stupid like Barret in the elevator and Jessie holding her thumb up for 5 minutes
>Cloud's aerial combat is beyond clunky and rarely works properly
>Jessie is far too thirsty and it's shoved down your throat too often
>Jessie will never be real

Those are my gripes, but I loved it otherwise.

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Bl00dyGODkitz has spoken.

FF7R fags should kneel in submission and stop shilling this piece of shit with no jump button.

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>bossfight cutscenes cancel whatever you're doing which leads to potential wasted limit breaks

fuck that happened to me too

>I loved it otherwise.
What did you love, the walking?

literally who

lmao

pretty much nothing. my biggest fear was that the combat would be copied from FFXV, with hold square to kill everything, hold circle to dodge everything. but this is the best action combat square has ever came up with. even normal mode is pretty challenging, if you're not careful you'll be spending all your ATB on using potions.

he liked the part with the lasers where you hold forward.

I hope it's not a thing in the final game. It was really annoying.

they ruined the dingy industrial aesthetic and they took an interesting soundtrack made with a unique soundfont and turned it into generic movie music

I had fun with it, but Im just finding out people actually died during the demo. Like, how the fuck?
Also, somehow it didnt feel as "epic" as I think it would. The scale didnt strike me like the original did (or other games, both recent and old). Music was fine. Its just a demo, so I will see how the final game ends up before buying.
>Blocking is just take half damage, what's even the point?
Well, Cloud has the Punisher counter when blocking

I saw a guy who died to Scorpion twice, and then to Shock Troopers.

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I don't plan on ever buying a PS4 or PS5 so unless this comes to the switch or Xbone I'm out of luck I'd wager

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>blizzard line, thunder line, combine with bio, instant death, stop, multi/duo/tri/quad/quint cast, expericast, curecast, healcast, any of the party can use these, plus the elemental weapons, holy, death and alterna on noct ring, graviga on machine which Noct and prompto can use, ignis has his own unique fire, thunder and Blizzard magic with overclocks to mix fire with thunder etc.
You do know this is a demo right? You aren't going to be getting many spells in it. Plus based on the datamine there are a lot of spells and materia to pair them with in the full game like the original.

It'll most likely hit XBone next year.

Yeah that throw away line doesn't really mean Shinra did it in the original. And it still doesn't make sense that Shinra blew up their own reactor. They had Avalanche on film and they could have blown shit up with most of Avalanche in it but they just let them walk right out and fucked up a reactor that cost millions of dollars.

No mater how you slice it, it's illogical and stupid on Shinra's part

>replying to XV-kun

for what purpose

how the fuck do you manage that? i played recklessly as fuck and had cloud get to 100 hp twice but beat it easily
>inb4 hurr you nearly died how was it easy
because i literally did nothing but go ham without even thinking, even if he did die you have multiple phoenix downs

they're doing it to get people to support them invading wutai again because avalanche in this game isn't just barret's crew anymore

>can't implement a hotkey system
What are shortcuts.
>this remake is already showing bad signs of ruining it's legacy
Fucking retard

I wish Classic Mode wasn't automatically easy mode. Other than that I was thoroughly impressed with the game itself. Put some polish on the animations and effects and I think we got an actual good game. I'm not dumb enough to think this was going to be the same game but with better graphics so even as it's own thing it so far seems like a worthy remake of the old game.

The AI isn't good enough for Classic to run on anything but Easy. The AI is easily my biggest gripe with the demo.

Dialog is completely different in Japanese too.

English: “Do I look like I’m okay to you?”
Japanese: “My leg is stuck under this” (kinda going off kiddy tier anime knowlege)

>there are two deluxe edition preorder bonus summon materias
What the fuck, pay to win?

>Also Cloud going I SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE WOUNDS or whatever every 5 seconds I didn't heal him

I'm thankful for that because I never paid attention to the health bar.

It was too much like XV

It's nothing like XV

you're right, it's better than XV.

they took one of the best FF games and turned it into FF15

Barely.

>FF7R's demo was pretty enjoyable though. System pretty simple sadly, and since combat probably isn't 7R's main focus, I doubt it opens up much more than what they've shown in the demo.

>Hopefully I'm wrong though.

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He's falseflagging, obviously.

I died once. I always hoard items and rarely use potions and the like for fear of wasting them.

>doomers relying to fucking literally who twitter screenshots to circlejerk over

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They're useless anyway, it's just there for fanservice.

Where was that stated?

Who the fuck even considers this deluxe garbage? Are you seriously planning to pay $240 for a single game?

by the fact they're even incorporating the assassination attempt and the fact heidegger tells them they have no idea what they're dealing with and mentions wutai to which Barret rejects being involved with

this is just conjecture but it makes the most sense

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Is the combat in this game more like FFXV or Kingdom Hearts?

Fucking baseddd

it's literally XV without a jump button.

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>Needing ATB to do anything but attack is a lame anti-fun mechanic

absolute nonsense
it's so easy to fill up
it's much better than being able to spam potions like on XV

Dont have playstation
Is this at least better than XV and KH3. Was pretty disappointed by both.

FFXV

sort of a mix really

>muh jump

why are autists so hung up on this

It's XV without a car.

Everything, it's worse than XV in every way

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>floaty weightless combat
>obvious big square room combat arenas
>environments boring as shit in general, original did industrial areas but made them feel distinct, remake is all bland gray corridors and steel shipping containers in generic warehouse rooms

Nope you can insta cast magic in XV and it's more useful than this shitty 7R magic
cope

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it's literally just XV-kun

Get the fuck off this American website then you fucking ESL.

Now this is sunk cost in action

I see that now, my bad.

Fuck, there went all my interest in this game.

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literally what the fuck is wrong with you

nooooo9

Pretty sure a Chinese owns it, mutt.

Oh no is Nathan samefagging again?

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Gee, the highest level magic is more powerful than lv 1 thunder. Ok, FFXV-kun.

>i want that Melty's Quest gameplay!

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pure autism with worsening schizophrenia

Spells in XV suck or I didnt play with them right. Theyre friendly fire AoE and you cant really give your party direction to move the fuck out of the way. Plus it takes a weapon spot when it could easily be a menu like items instead.

full 7r magic was leaked
same as all abilities, weapons etc
7R has less unique weapons than XV, less weapon abilities, less everything

it's worse than XV

Can I play this without playing the original FF7?

it's like a worse version of xv without jumping, weapon switching or anything fun

Absolutely, it's the entire point.
They're re-telling you the story from the start.

Cope

it's better that way IMO. This shit is not my FF7.

Spells in XV are stronger and more reliable damage dealers than anything else in the game
>friendly fire
non factor with ring of resistance
if you hold down the cast noct will shout them to move away, or use ignis regroup right before using a spell so they're all behind noctis

No. It won't let you.

and yet even the demo is better than XV as a whole

you know it's possible to like different games right
you don't have to keep being this autistic

how retarded do u have to be to be this guy

Is it even fucking possible to have an actual discussion about this game? One side is drooling shitposters who want and beg for this game to be shit, the other side doesn't even want to listen to any criticism no matter how genuine.

I just want to talk about FFVII dammit.

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this thread is decent

answer the fucking question
not every game needs a jump

Even if the game is good you should know play arts kai figures are the worst pieces of shit ever made. I have no idea how that brand survived outside of its deathgrip on FF merch.

>Is it even fucking possible to have an actual discussion about this game?
Right now, no.
Here's what you're facing:

1-FFXV kun, one of the most autistic and dedicaded shitposters in this entire board, he doesn't eat, he doesn't sleep, and he's been ready for this release for years at this point, he's all out.

2- private discord groups that i'm personally aware of that are going to shitpost the game everywhere (nothing personal, they all have it preordered, it's just to fuck with Yea Forums).

3-Legit contrarians that won't ever play 1 second of it but must shitpost it at all costs.

Facing these odds, anyone that found anything positive about the demo is going to desperately suck it's cock until it's dry and fire back at any remote criticism because they're being attacked on all sides.
You essentially have to wait a couple of months post release to get any proper discussion.
Possibly around 5 months even, before all these groups calm down.

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The combat isn't great I personally don't like the ATB system. Thankfully shortcuts mitigate some of my gripes. It severely disrupts flow of play, I know this intention comprise for the turn based fans. it doesn't make for a good action game.
Another gripe that any PC gamer can relate to when coming and playing a console game is not be able to rebind the controls. I want the tactical menu to a different button, I'd prefer it to Triangle and attack to be X.
Thankfully there is a FOV slider but 3 should be the default. That camera during combat is awful though.

Not enough age of consent Tifa

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I don't hate the demo, but I did have some criticisms about it. Just mentioning it in a Discord group had people whining I was triggering them.

please tell me you at least turned off all auto cam shit and combo targeting

Barret is absolutely based and i really tought he was going to call Cloud a little bitch at some point.
It felt like he was always 1 step away from straight up calling him a bitch.
Pretty funny.

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I turned off the auto cam, but not the combo targeting.

They wouldn't let him. Ethics wouldn't allow it. Triggers faggots.

I really liked how the maps / levels were recognizable. The ladders and stairs down to the reactor were just like in the original.

There was something I didn't get about the scorpion battle. Cloud couldn't hit that field generator to save his life. Maybe I should've used barrett? But the combat is generally good.

This is true. It's pathetic really.

What threw me off about the maps was how they felt. The original Mako reactor was a lot more sinister to me, cold and lifeless as it drains the planet.

This new one I don't really get that same feeling, it feels too bright and lively.

>shitty claustrophobic camera
>lock-on barely works
>all new content like dialogue and extra cutscenes is shit or a hollow shell of its former self
>braindead XV button awesome gameplay with even more pausing and stupid AI than ever
>no exploration whatsoever, just casually jog down indistinct corridors with invisible walls everywhere because rolling and smoothly swinging your weapon is only permissable inside designated fighting zones
>gorillion parts, DLCs, and promotional items so you'll never get the whole game
It's unbelievable how much Square manages to shit everything up. At least they learned something from XV and don't allow you to phoenix down yourself from the dead forever.

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>There was something I didn't get about the scorpion battle. Cloud couldn't hit that field generator to save his life.
Because you're meant to use Barret.
>Maybe I should've used barrett?
Yep, Cloud even says something like "Hit that generator Barret, it's the game pushing you to switch between party members.

I really like the combat, i love the idea that you're switching to someone, performing a long action that will take some time, and switching back to the other guy as the other is executing, doing even more damage, or maybe using the occasion to use a potion etc.
That's why actions are slower, it gives the combat some momentum as you're spreading yourself across multiple party members "priming" actions between them doing multiple things at once.
It definitely shows potential.

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trying too hard doomer

>wtf this demo has no exploration, dead on arrival

>lock-on barely works

it works perfectly what are you on about

falling for such bait. kys honestly

I died twice also and stopped after that. I noticed the AI was even worse than me. Had to switch constantly between characters. It was a tedious match that went on forever. Then when the scorpion is doing his laser beam cannon, I tried to shield but still died as Barret.

>Is it even fucking possible to have an actual discussion about this game?

I's impossible to have any discussion about any game in this place. How new are you? This is where every other forum on the internet comes to take a dump and where all the legitimately autistic sperg reprobates from those same forms permanently end up when they are shunned by their former communities. It's a cesspool.

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Well it's true, the camera is too close to the player.

Padding out 1/8th of the game with excessive sidequests and more dialogue wont fix the game.

It's interesting looking back on it in 2015. youtube.com/watch?v=A3sBZ5Nr4hc

You know, that's just an excuse to not put any effort into actual discussion of have a sense of quality control, and to simply leave shit to get shittier and blame it on a vague sense of forces beyond our control.

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you know you can zoom the camera out right

Play the "Prey First Hour" demo.
Maybe you'll remember what game design is then, instead of this CGI shitshow.
This "game" isn't worth the $14 price of admission it should be priced at.
I'd rather watch The Ten Commandments than watch this retard bait escapism fantasy.

Kek XV kun you're mentally ill at this point.

No I didn't. I'll be happy to try it out next time I play.

Why are people saying that Shinra blowing up their own reactor was a retcon, when in the original, Shinra actually told Avalanche himself that he was manipulating them.

I remember even Jessie saying in the original saying that she didn't expect the explosion to be that big because that wasn't the plan.

this is true. only on a scale of 1-3 though, which is still too close for my taste.

You are full of shit, i doubt anyone is this naive. You can't swim against the faecal tide no matter how hard you try. Social engineering in this website is so easy a single turbo autist can do it.

Loveless was always canon.
Did you not spot the loveless billboard in the original?

In the original the Shinra President also Proclaims he's been manipulating Avalanche the whole time.

it used to be completely different here. When a good game like this was dropped the amount of excitement went through the roof.
posting "Hyped" used to be the meme.
Now this place is full of mentally ill /r9ktv/ that attack anyone even slightly positive as a shill.

I can’t agree with you when .hack gets good discussion whenever there’s a thread.

>no exploration whatsoever
are we just going to pretend sector 1 reactor was some kind of labyrinth of adventure in the original? it was like 5 screens long.

>Fuck out of here, the materia magic system was one of the best things about the original FF7 and this remake is already showing bad signs of ruining it's legacy.

You do know that the materia system is going to be available in this remake right? You do know that they said that everything that materia did in the OG will be the same in the remake right?

See? You already accepted things being shit as an inevitability thus self absolution of any need to want to this shithole to improve.

But whatever, it's not like I'll be any better, I've wasted enough time yelling at the spergs on this, I try to avoid it nowwadays.

The expectation when you play a demo is that you get a vertical slice of the game showing it off at its best. Nioh 2 managed to have decent exploration and good, tight combat in its demos even though it has a fraction of the budget and manpower put into it. If anything in this demo is representative of the final product, then Square should just shut down their game studios because they're clearly more interested in leading everyone by the nose to gawk at all the pretty wallpaper while the cast endlessly spouts annoying quips.

Never played the original, but really enjoyed the demo last night. Will probably pick this up once it dips down in price a bit

The game is too difficult for journalists.

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In fairness the President also tells them at the second reactor that their bomb was basically just fireworks. But to quote myself from another thread

Ok so I managed to wrap my head around a reasoning behind Shinra wanting to blow up the reactor themselves.
If AVALANCHE busts in, fails, and gets killed, Shinra can pat themselves on the back and announce to everyone that they stopped some big bad terrorists.
If AVALANCHE busts in, success, and blows up the plant, then that's perfect justification for Shinra to declare martial law, enact a rate hike on the other reactors, and basically act however they wish in the name of countering terrorism.
But if AVALANCHE busts in, kills a bunch of security, and manages to blow something up but doesn't do much damage and realistically could be fixed in a couple weeks, that makes Shinra look incompetent for being unable to stop people like that. So they have to up the damage to justify taking further action.

Am i going to have to wait ten years to play the full game? Not buying some 7-1 only midgar shit

>Never played the original, but...
I've been seeing a lot of those since the demo dropped. I wonder if I should be worried.

>The game is so good it is filtering Pleb game journalists.
I prayed for this, and it happened.

>when this will be GOTY when is just part1
>when part 3 happens part 1 will be outdated because it will be build for another console/pc hardware with another engine
>when in either part 2 or 3 you cant carry your savefile
>when in 10 years there will be some "Complete 16k Edition"
Meh. See you in 10 years

>but also
>but also
>but also
>but also
Just stop, please.

So I know its pretty crazy to make a own thread about this, but I just played the demo and this made my blood pumping. I have to adress this.

Cloud and Barret set up the bomb in the first reactor. As soon as the counter runs down, the bomb just gets "kaput" and radiates some smoke. Nothing more, no explosion. Then Heidegger orders shinras robot army to go berserk and just shoot up the whole reactor so that it explodes.

What does that mean? That just f***** means that our noble terror heroes didn't kill all these people in the first reactor explosion. No it was shinra! The bad guys! Cloud and his crew don't have any blood on their hands. They think they have blood on their hands, but there will come some stupid story point about, how bad shinra is and they exploded the reactor to find an enemy for midgar population. Its just the same as "Han shot first". -> No no no, the bad space pirate smuggler didn't kill greedo coldblooded, he just killed greedo because he first shot at Han Solo.

WTF. This is bullshit. This is typical disney bullshit. I hate this. If this is a sign that all this stuff which doens't flow well today will just get eliminated in the Remake, I am not interested in it. This is a joke and just as bad as the star wars special editions. F* Square Enix.

(I know it just a game and I am gonna play it anyway, but seriously this is some grad a bulls***. Its this disneyfication of everything now.)

EDIT: Just to be clear: I didn't want the come of as a hurt, rambling fanboy. (Maybe a little bit to full the discussion.) Tomorrow is another day and everything is gonna still be the same. But I just love it, that there is place where you can be passionate about your "blip and blop games" hobby.
EDIT2: The swear words a censored, because as far as I can tell, there are a lot of american people on here and I am not sure, if its okay for them, if I go on full curse mode...

Why do you assume so much about me? Obviously if i am complaining about these losers then it's because i haven't stooped to their level and still try, but it's like attempting to have a discussion with a group of barking dogs, before you know it you are just shouting at them trying to shut them up.

I'm confident about 65% of people who got RE2R never played the original. Already happening with RE3R and FF7 too because people would rather just decide it's the "definitive" version to get instead of an "alternative." It's an excuse to just not bother playing something "old and outdated."

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This is good news.

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tl;dr and the issue has been discussed to death especially ITT

>Cope

oh wait it's pasta
my bad

Imagine having such a low IQ that you can't even find the shortcut button

XV's combat system is trash.
Why do square keep doing this? If they want action that much why won't go for DMC's style?

Honestly I hear all these things about the original game and the nuances in it, that I have to honestly ask, as a zoomber with no actual experience playing a final fantasy game outside of 14 and kingdom hearts. Should I play the original or the remake?

picture so you respond to my post.

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Yes, go play the original first.

what have you got to lose?

Shinra literally mentioned that he was manipulating Avalanche in the original game.

i actually enjoyed it, was surprised how they followed the plot albeit with a few minor details changed and more dialogue. wish they had a few scenes with fixed camera angles for a more classic feel but im hoping those will happen in friendly areas where you dont get into fights (demo didnt feature any friendly spots).

not a huge fan of the combat system and i wish you could toggle the autopilot in normal mode for some of the repetitive low stakes battles but its still fun.

first 20 minutes of this video is good to compare with the demo:
youtube.com/watch?v=lRx-muO48Y8

We're gonna see Tifa's feet too right?

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Demo felt absolutely awful because of the framerate. Animations are fast and fluid, combat is dynamic and you have choppy 30fps and I believe there were some drops too. Extremely uncomfortable to play. I'm fine with 30fps in slower game, I played through DS without any issue but FF demo felt junky as fuck. Guess I'll wait for PC version.

I hate both FFXV and 7R.
They're both evidence to me that Square has no idea how to make an FF game anymore. FFXV was a blatantly unfinished hackjob with dull characters and mediocre action combat.

FFVIIR is just raping something I actively loved. They made the combat more actiony to pander to normies who just like flashy animations but didn't make it good enough to have a high skill ceiling like Kingdom Hearts. They're charging 60 bucks for just the first part of the game because they've padded it out with unnecessary scenes, story BS that wasn't in the original, and shitty low effort fetch quests. They've fucked with the boss music by just making it generically orchestral instead of making it mainly electric guitar and electric organ as it was in the original whilst adding shitty generic choir into it to make it sound more "epic."

Everything about it just feels so "done by committee" and devoid of real passion. It feels like a Jonas Brothers cover of a Bob Dylan song.

at least RE2R had the full fucking game.

lolno. It's 60 bucks for act 1 of a game that came out 23 years ago.

it covered the exact same events as the original FFVII demo you faglord.

t. this guy

youtu.be/UtQcQ60sSWg

I get its the very beginning of the game but the combat felt very mindless up until the boss then it was pretty good

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in the original, even the boss was mindless

>dat headband
>dat room
>black

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as if anyone wanted to discuss a last resort cash grab from a literal asian blizzard, I'm here to shit on it

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yeah I'm convinced he's mentally handicapped

>FFVII Remake
Implies that it's going to be the full game and not just midgar. Why are they doing this?

I can get out of Midgar in the original in under 3 hours. Hearing this first episode is just Midgar kind of kills my excitement. So they just fill it with a bigger Wall Market or what ?

>mmm yes Square Enix I looooooove paying full price for the first act of a game that came out 23 years ago that you sliced off and stuffed with a bunch of shit nobody asked for
People like you are why modern FF is so trash. You keep giving them money for this awful shit.

the changed story bits, put in extra scenes nobody asked for, and added OC donut steel characters.

Also a bunch of shitty low-effort hunt/fetch quests like FFXV

this but unironically.

Welcome to nu-square for nu-gamers who do nothing buy coomsume

Pretty much like the original and most RPGs, where standard enemies can easily be defeated by just pressing attack, whereas bosses require more strategic play.

They extended various bits. The intro segment is closer to half an hour / 45 minutes than the 10-20 minute quickie, there's upwards to half an hour or more in the escape from the plate according to Maximilian Dood, and judging by demo datamine leaks the town segments are largely expanded altogether.

okay snowflake

no need to reply to yourself man

I came into this demo expecting nothing and I was very pleased with the depth the combat provided. You actually have to tell your party to do shit, positioning matters, blocking and dodging requires timing and has benefits, there's decision making to be had with regards to spending ATB, it's fucking GOOD.
Also the remake of the boss theme had me fucking HYPED

honestly I went into this with insanely low expectations but it was pretty good
>combat was pretty engaging and fixed a lot of the more obvious issues from FF15
>Character designs and writing were pretty on point and weren't compliation squeenix garbage
>They kept the world feeling pretty similar with stuff like the retarded scale of the shinra building to the rest of the city, the random japanese everywhere, ect

the only part that felt objectionable was rewriting it so that shinra blew up the reactor but the protagonists were going to blow it up themselves anyway so it almost seems like the japanese rating board simply got a lot harsher than it was back in the 90s

I think I'll just download the original and play it at 3x speed. The combat would be better and I get a full game

>O.3 Gil has been deposited into your account

>hurr durr I never asked for this remake
>still gets mad remake isn't 1:1 and not how they wanted it

contradictions all over the place

being able to play the original doesn't make you special you fucking imbecile

anyone else hate the combat?

>NOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY NEGATIVE OPINIONS
I'm still looking forward to this but it's far from perfect

Almost nothing and I'm actually surprised. I expected it to be shit, but it's actually somewhat playable even though combat is very simple. Although not being able to use items without filling the ATB first makes no sense.
My main problem with the demo is that it's pure nostalgia pandering and hype material that doesn't answer the most important question: what the general gameplay loop is going to be and how the fuck are they going to turn 5 hours of content into a full game?

that isn't even an opinion you fucking idiot

No it just means I have better taste

Unironically best game made in the last twenty years.

Stay mad.

It isn't grow the fuck up

It's not that I want it to be shit, it's that everything shown about the game (especially the fact that its 60 bucks for just Midgar) makes it clear it's just a cynical cashgrab. Why is it action based? To pander to normies who get interested by flashy animations. Yakuza 7 did a modern take on turn-based JRPG combat, why can't FF? The completely unnecessary story changes like the black smoke things and Shinra being the ones who actually blew up the reactor after the AVALANCHE bomb fizzled out ACTIVELY RUIN story elements and scenes from the original game.

I'm honestly convinced that the people who are saying this looks great never actually played the original. Why would I pay 60 bucks for an "FF7 Remake" That doesn't have Yuffie, Vincent, Cid, or Cait Sith?

It's better to ignore his posts than validate him.

>not being able to use items without filling the ATB first makes no sense
Are you retarded?

it's too fucking linear man

My only gripe is the atrocious AI. Especially Cloud. Literally does absolutely nothing even with 2 ATB bars. Just stands there blocking nothing.

using items without cooldown is what broke 15 so hard
get hit to 1 hp, use an elixir, get hit again instantly repeat

The reactor in the original is also linear. But I've got a feeling this will persist in the rest of the game

I died once against scorpion. The game is way too hard

What are you expecting from a remake of a tutorial that was already linear? Of a game that was incredibly linear until late to end-game despite a world map?

Only literally what basis do you have to declare that that's not mostly nostalgia talking?

>Why is it action based?
Because original had a snoozefest combat where you just hit ATTACK 99% of the time? It was ok back then but now you can't have such combat. You either have to fill it with gimmicks, tight mechanics and flashy slylish animations like Persona or make it action based. Current combat allows you to directly play as a character AND gives you lots of decisions on how to spend your ATB gauge. While I can't say I loved the combat but it's the last thing I'd complain about the Remake.
>Yakuza 7 did a modern take on turn-based JRPG combat
And that game failed. Sales are lower than Dead Souls and combat is extremely boring where you spam same skills for half an hour to win the Kiryu fight. Why would you want something like that?

FF never had good dungeon design, maybe except for XII, I don't know what you expected.

The original at least used the pre-rendered backgrounds and different camera angles for dynamic effect. This is just bland as can be. I couldn't even finish the demo

trying too hard

I'm with you on that. There was really no character to the reactor

And XII turned into a goddamn slog fest in the later dungeons to the point that the Speed-Up in the remaster became a fucking necessity.

doomies are making shit up to complain about so there's nothing new here

lol

I have low hopes for this because they made Midgar the whole part 1. There's gonna be padding out the ass.

>old game good
>new game bad
>muh souls

I think if anything the original didn't really expand on Midgar enough. You never really see the upper levels, and the lower levels are a few screens of dilapidated slums. It wasn't bad at all but I look forward to actually seeing what Midgar's like for the middle/upper class too

They should have never let burgers get their hand on the character design

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this is literally an optional gameplay setting that explains it's easier than easy. fuck off with your bad faith arguments

What you don't want to watch an entire fucking Mardi Gras scene at the Honey Bee Inn?

>mash one button
>depth
/nu-v/

>new game good cause uh...new i guess?

Top left makes me diamonds

>new game bad cause uh...new i guess?

Obviously the basic attacks don't require much thought, but ATB management is engaging and having to block and dodge is as well. I dare you to try a no potion run of the demo and see how easy it is if you just mash square

Aeris looks just offensive

Yeah I have no faith in squenix to add anything of worth to FF7.

Yuna just looks like that one fat chick from your high school with that really soft but firm belly who was also flat as fuck.
Would fuck and lie to my friends about if they ever asked me if I fucked that pork/10

C O N S U M E

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The trailer at the end of the demo shows you fighting and exploring upper Midgar, the footage looks promising, idk, even if it's just a few hours up there it can be good. I'm happy with the characterization they added to Jessie, maybe there's more positivity to come.

Take it from someone who bought the KH3 collectors edition, Square's artbook quality is shit and you're better off with digital deluxe if it's something you care about.

Git gud

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>You never really see the upper levels
They're just a generic looking city from what you do see. I will say this, I always found it strange that you never see another member of Soldier First Class in the entire game. You would think after a while Shinra would set them on you. Those random encounters during the Midgar raid don't count.

How the fuck do you beat the boss? It's confusing

You sound like you're speaking from experience

>Should I play the original or the remake?
Dude, there's basically no remake to speak of - in the sense that all we're discussing here is a mere, vague "act 1" that we have no idea how or when it will be followed and for how many acts/years, SE even admitted they currently just don't know how many games this FFVIIR will end up getting

In the foreseeable future there's practically still only a single FFVII to fully play

no it isn't

Generic city? Come on, dude. The city in metal gear rising is generic, Midgar looks cool. Kind of like a 50's america but with mako advanced tech.

duh

THEY FUCKED UP THE ELEVATOR

How fat was she, user?

These posts are glowing

They literally tell you what to do in game, user. Also you can hit it in the ass when it puts the shields up to break the shield generator

everything

Pretty fat but I just bite the bullet and went full in, I like to think I also made her day

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yep his AI is fucked up
at least Barret constantly shoots

Does anyone think they will actually expand upon Midgar by developing dropped plot threads and/or underdeveloped themes? I'm worried Nomura doesn't understand what Final Fantasy 7 was about, given his involvement in the Advent Children, and how much it undermined what the game was about.

>someone who bought the KH3 collectors edition

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Attack when it's tails up so it doesn't counter with it's tail laser.

I think the AI is purposefully passive so you have to micro the party, which is unironically a good thing.

SE didn't hire platinum to do the remake.

>guard scorpion shields up
>people just hitting it with Cloud instead of attacking the butthole from a distance with Barret to avoid the AoE and tail attacks
>complain it's too hard

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Nobody asked for a FF7R in parts through 10 years.

Wish they let you keep the levels you get running through the demo if you choose to run through it again, and if you reach lvl 100 you unlock something you can use in the game, like an early rare weapon or item.

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mostly because of how shit they've become and the absolute jewry for the past few years. I've been a square fan from the start and the consecutive disappointments just numbed me and gave me 0 expectations for the remake. I was completely convinced that this was just going to be another squeenix cashgrab scheme and for once I am very glad I was wrong.

Probably. What I want to know is if they pick up the abandoned plot for Red XIII where he's followed by Hojo's other experiments. It would give him some relevance after Cosmo Canyon at least.

>>complain it's too hard
How the fuck is a game that literally plays itself "too hard"?

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>RPG requires people to use action-game logic
>people seethe
nomura is brave to have the filter so early on

>Auron is 35 years old
Dem crazy Japanese man

>Because original had a snoozefest combat where you just hit ATTACK 99% of the time?
so then you make it harder and more strategic, like the FFIV remake on DS did. You don't have to change the entire core gameplay style. Hell, there were plenty of bosses in FFX that would wreck your shit. There are plenty of turn-based RPGs that can be difficult.
>Current combat allows you to directly play as a character AND gives you lots of decisions on how to spend your ATB gauge.
So then it's just become a shittier version of RTWP combat that WRPGs have done infinitely better with since forever. Hell even Dragon Age Inquisition had better combat than this.
>And that game failed.
You know what didn't fail? DQXI. The Trails series.

>While I can't say I loved the combat but it's the last thing I'd complain about the Remake.
not to me. It feels like it just doesn't know what it wants to be so it doesn't really commit to anything and just feels like an awkward mishmash. If you want to make it action based? Fine, then take what FFXV did and improve on it more or give us some high skill ceiling shit like Kingdom Hearts. You want it to ATB-style turn-based? Then just make it that. Hell, even Atelier Ryza did a better job doing a hybrid system than this.

It's made INCREDIBLY obvious that Cloud is a bad choice, he has a ridiculously exaggerated animation where his sword bounces off.

It was mostly for the Disney pin desu

I watched someone die twice and complain the AoE is too OP

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Very based.

>Cloud: "It's weak to lightning magic"
>keeps hitting it with sword
>Cloud 2 minutes later: "I wasn't kidding Barret, use lightning magic"
>never switches to Barret
>keeps hitting it with sword
people are fucking retarded

it's hilarious watching people who have been conditioned by dark souls to try to dodge roll iframe everything and never figure out why they're still eating damage

Does cloud actually say that? Pretty based if so

Hey I just realized. WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T CLOUD HAVE LIGHTNING AND ICE? FUCK THIS SHIT GAME! 60 BUCKS FOR THIS CRAP!?
I'm only partially joking

Yea Forums wants every big release to be the new tortanic

related

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>complains the two first guards die too easily
>they both die in one hit in the original

You don't even need to switch. Barret fills his ATB quickly and you have L2/R2 in the command menu.

Never played the original and it was great. Stay mad doomie.

Barrett doesn't have his magic on his quickuse menu automatically, so I thought it had to be triggered tutorial style. If you wait long enough, you get some funny lines, with Cloud asking barrett if he even knows how to use materia.

the guy is fucked in the head

How do you beat the scorpion thingy?

RTWP games had a solution for this, where you could adjust your AI's scripts accordingly. And it never made things too easy as you still had to micromanage, either the systems there-in or new commands if the tide of battle changed. Something helped by keeping encounters fresh, exciting, and dangerous, meaning little passivity was allowed.

Hell, I think FF12 did something like that with its gambit system.

I fucking told you. Attack when it's tails up so it doesn't counter with it's tail laser.

Mako reactors in the original have this almost nightmarish feel to them, that the music helps so much to bring to the forefront as well, it feels like a place of hopelessness and torment going through them. It makes me want to gtfo as quickly as possible.

I didn't get that feeling in the remake.

Ignore him, user. I'm pretty sure he's just same fagging.

punch it right in the pussy

>ignore all the combat mechanics
>bitch about taking too long to kill shit
it's xenoblade all over again
video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1234495589427142658/pu/vid/1280x720/CdUo-PhKN4oRvWjH.mp4
here's some actual good gameplay

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Games with a jump button are more fun though

tales of arise looks better

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Honestly even the Guard Scorpion's able to be taken down a fair bit faster than people think if you use your shit right.

Truth

already posted a video of someone killing it in under 4 minutes so people are just shitters

theres an option for ching chong?

The theme of unrestrained industrialization and its ecological impact is going to be lost, isn't it? And more so than it was in the original game, post-Midgar.

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The Trials of Mana remake is also shaping up nicely.

He's also a dead ghost

>Took them 5 years to properly plan everything and release the first part
>Also took them that long so that the next parts will come out faster
>Reinvent everything from the ground up, make sure that it keeps the spirit of the original game intact.
>Cashgrab scheme

What the fuck.

A cashgrab scheme is them fucking releasing the original and saying "Look! HD Textures!". Or them releasing mobile games left and right to see what sticks.

Learn what an actual cashgrab is.

15 is better

Haven't played the demo. Anyone know if you'll be able to continue playing the full version from where the demo ends?

>the elevator in the remake is literally soulless.
Remakes are almost always inherently soulless unless it's something like A Fistful of Dollars or Reservoir Dogs, to use film as an example. Although games are more conducive of remakes or remakes to be fair, and it has taken on its own identity. I just can't say for sure I like it.

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change your system language

SO WHAT ARE THE BEST CAMERA/OPTION SETTINGS? TELL ME WHAT YOU USE.

all the options have descriptions so use your brain

Ok what the fuck is up with the environments? Everything is so fucking plain looking.

Art direction and/or UE4 engine.

It actually kinda pains me to say this. But I agree. They're both relatively simple but FF15 combat doesn't interrupt the player. Both have camera issues maybe that is just Square not knowing how to program that properly. FF15's was really only a major problem with dense foliage. Maybe could have fixed that if a tree is blocking the view add a transparency effect.

FF15 kept the action and wait modes separate instead of forcing a bad mixture of both. The only time I ever opted to use wait mode was fighting a group of tonberries that were several levels above my guys.

im going to break down every single combat encounter in the demo and teach you how to perform perfectly in this game. putting it behind spoilers in case you want to learn for yourself.
literally just press the square button a bunch, and use your ATB gauges on potions. when fighting the boss, you may need to press square while looking at its ass

>full game is better than a demo I played

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>Do YoU gUyS nOt HaVe PhOnEs?

Uhhh retard ALERT
What is team up attacks where you sit there for 5 seconds watching an animation
What is switching team members and being forced to watch them do a lil jig everytime you swap like its a marvel vs capcom game
Holy shit did you actually play XV? I don't think you did

Did anyone else realize there is a scan like thing you can do to the enemy when you press the touchpad? Shows their stats and whatever. I just found it out now.

WHAT THE FUCK

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One is clearly much worse than other, an long animation for a team up attack. That you have to charge for much longer than the ATB vs literally putting the game on pause for Barret to do a basic command. The AI was competent enough that you never actually have to use the team up attacks either.

>play demo of upcoming game
>looks gorgeous
>polished as fuck
>having a good time

>like clockwork, Yea Forums spergs out and shits on it.
>like all good games, Yea Forums hates it for the most ridiculous, desperate and autistic reasons imaginable
>it-its irredeemable shit!!! 6/10 at best!

I don't know what else I expected.

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>7R has less unique weapons than XV, less weapon abilities, less everything
This is meaningless when you just equiped Ragnarok and warp strike one shit literally everything in the game from minute 1.

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>Overall the entire area felt more sterile and less gritty than the original.
This was my gripe, it was far too clean. The reactors and Midgar in the original was a disgusting, grimy shit hole that you'd feel filthy after walking in never mind having to live in it.

this place is just a toilet now

The second reactor has shittier looking parts in it mixed with cleaner looking parts, if that's any consolation.

It makes sense the reactors would be well maintained.

Official character ages never make sense because they're a retarded ploy to appeal to younger players.

Like how Quistis is an instructor at age 18 and Squall is supposedly only 17. Should add 3-4 years to the character's ages.

I forgive you for being retarded enough to buy anything in advance from the money hungry rotting corpse that squeenix has become, but haven't you learned anything about collector's editions in the past? I guess some people are simply unredeemably stupid. Thanks for being part of the cancer

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Valid. And they won't shut the hell up with their annoying quips every three seconds.

When will you commies learn
proving you wrong with evidence =/= bad faith argument
learn what words mean you scum

>what went wrong?
It's a new game and is there for subject to the golden rule:
OLD GAME GOOD
NEW GAME BAD

nobody lives in reactors, user

It's shit. Legend of Dragoon remake when???

I'm glad the banter isn't as relentless for Air Buster and Aps.

OH NO NO NO NO

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ghouls do

.hack is niche as fuck so it dosent attract autism like any of the big name releases

>hard mode is locked until you beat the game
is this true

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Bro, direct your eyeballs about 5 degrees until they're pointed at the health numbers, then back.
It takes about 0.2 seconds.

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Nope. The doomers/consoomers feud is the FF7 equivalent of the SJWs/Alt-right war

The camera does not do verticality well at all. Minor gripe. Major gripe is the character AI.

it's a jap game so probably

coper

the demo is worse than the first 10 minutes of XV alone

Why discuss trash? everyone hates 7R

ATB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FFXV combat

Squeenix should stop trying to force that shit in all games

yeah no it has more than pushing a fucking car for 10 minutes

You can Phoenix your partyforever
it's not game over in 7R until all menbers are ko in 7R
It's game over if player character in XV is ko

the laser security system bit is so fucking dumb

lame pasta

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You never played it

I wish I was him

xv is pure kino soul

then who makes those youtube reaction videos?!

yes it is faggot

bruh

nobody likes XV

this

But will there be an increase of Jessie doujins now?

those are finishers idiot

When will you /pol/-tards learn
cherrypicking =/= proof
learn your own board's sticky you retard

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>Jessie's slender build

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>dlc weapon
And 7R has dlc item that auto revives party members automatically making it impossible to lose

what's that

And that's why you spam warpstrike and kill it in 5 hits while being unhittable.

I played the demo retard, what that fags opinion on 7R is nothing anyone can't get their own opinion on by playing the demo
it's worse than XV

XV has ATB and better combat than this 7R trash

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>honey select port
>need for a doujin
u homo son

>gonna throw your sword at 'em?
XV reference
>let the man with the gun go to work
VIII reference

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Pushing car for one minute requires more button inputs than 7R

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So you could re experience the kino soul that is xv
based

Everyone likes XV

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one of the butterfinger dlc

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>youtube poll

somehow even more pathetic than a twitter poll

ragnorok does like 0-1 damage against omega you retard

glad I don't eat that garbage

>hurr durr it's action therefore it's FFXVshit
Holy shit it's incredible.
4 years ago you subhuman doomers started spewing this lie with no evidence whatsoever
Then official trailers disproved you
...and you still kept repeating that lie as if nothing happened.
Then official interviews disproved you
...and you STILL kept repeating the same fucking lie!
Then you were disproved by an actual demo
...AND YOU'RE STILL HERE REPEATING THE SAME MOTHERFUCKING LIE!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

Seek.

Psychiatric.

Help.

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And yet it got #13 on the list of favorite Final Fantasy games beloved by the Japanese while 10 came out on top.

holy shit

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That cope

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eat your butterfinger

it's actually worse than XV

>"FF7 will be as long as FF13"
>It's actually only 30 hours
>"Well I wanted a short game since I have a job now"

>"They took five years making this game so we could have a Midgar open-world"
>It's actually as linear as FF10 and FF13
>"Well the original was linear anyway so I don't mind"

>"The gameplay is going to be so deep and much better than the auto-attack FFXV"
>It's actually a button mash fest
>"Well this is how the market is nowadays"

>"I can't wait to play as Red XIII"
>He's actually not playable
>"Well you wouldn't have time to use him anyway"

Reminder, it's only fine when FF7 does it.

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the absolute state of modern gaming journalism what the fuck

>Be bad at videogames
>Announce it on twitter
Why

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Why are you lying? XV was in top 10 and also Japan has always loved X more than FF7
Meanwhile

RPGsite best FF poll with over 10k votes, XV in top 5
1: Final Fantasy VII
2: Final Fantasy IX
3: Final Fantasy VI
4: Final Fantasy X
5: Final Fantasy XV
6: Final Fantasy VIII
7: Final Fantasy XIV
8: Final Fantasy XII
9: Final Fantasy IV
10: Final Fantasy XIII
11: Final Fantasy V
12: Final Fantasy XI
13: Final Fantasy III
14: Final Fantasy II
15: Final Fantasy

rpgsite.net/feature/6530-here-s-the-final-fantasy-series-ranked-as-voted-by-thousands-of-you

Gameinformers top 300 games poll with XV in the top 5 FF games listed
270. Final Fantasy XIII (#12 ranked FF)
244. Final Fantasy III (#11 ranked FF)
235. Final Fantasy XII (#10 ranked FF)
164. Final Fantasy XIV (#9th ranked FF)
146. Final Fantasy IV (#8th ranked FF)
128. Final Fantasy XI (#7th ranked FF)
97. Final Fantasy VIII (#6th ranked FF)
51. Final Fantasy XV (#5th ranked FF)
49. Final Fantasy IX (#4th ranked FF)
33. Final Fantasy X (#3rd ranked FF)
13. Final Fantasy VI (#2nd ranked FF)
7. Final Fantasy VII (#1st ranked FF)
gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2018/03/19/readers-choice-top-300-games-of-all-time.aspx

Game informer top 5 best games in series, XV in top 5.
>Final Fantasy
>1. Final Fantasy X
>2. Final Fantasy VII
>3. Final Fantasy VI
>4. Final Fantasy VIII
>5. Final Fantasy XV

gameinformer.com/2019/04/14/game-informer-readers-favorite-games-of-popular-series

Shirrako FF poll with 21k+ votes had XV in 1st place and top 5

Famitsu best games of Heisei era, XV again in top 5 for the FFs listed
1. Chrono Trigger
2. Legend of Zelda: BOTW
3. NieR: Automata
4. FF7
5. Okami
6. The Legend of Zelda: OoT
7. FFX
8. Pokémon R/G/B/Y
9. Dragon Quest V
10. Xenogears
11. Vainglory
12. Suikoden II
13. Mother 2
14. Splatoon 2
15. Tactics Ogre
16. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G
17. Kingdom Hearts
17. MGS3: Snake Eater
19. FFXV
20. FFXI
20. (tie) Pokémon Diamond/Pearl

the game is actually kind of fun, but i'm still skeptical of the "it's only midgar", so i fear how padded and/or short it's going to be. Also afraid of this kickstarting other remakes to be multiple parts, speaking of which they still avoid mentioning this is part 1 as much as possible, you need to read interviews to know that

This is almost always the case for everything
"Localizers" are fucking cancer

XV ranked higher than FF Tactics
guess no one likes ff tactics

Imagine hating on everything new that comes out

What the fuck is up with the famitsu list? It makes no sense

To be fair, #13 was a typo, and 15 ranked higher than 13 and 12, but the fact that it was outranked by nine other numbered installments in a poll voted by its target market still speaks volumes

Just accept that people don't enjoy FFXV as much as you do, and move on

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At least XV had a dlc weapon that let you skip the entire combat system. If Squeenix is determined to believe that turn based games won't sell despite all evidence to the contrary (P5, DQXI, FE3H), the least they could do is ask Platinum for help.

>dlc weapon that let you skip the entire combat system.
What was it? I dont remember

>trying to talk sense into XV-kun

wtf are you doing

Ragnarok something or other, it lets you spam the warp attack with shitloads of extra damage so you don't need to suffer through actually fighting things.

the polls target audience was literally shown on each game voted you Fucking idiot
most older FFs have demo in their 30s because they were teens when it came out
most XV audience is in their 20s now too
And XV was top 10 you damage controlling fuckstain

You don't get to play as Red XIII?????

You should play the original first. See that you don't end up like these other dumb zoomer scum and make a million threads about shit they didn't understand in the story when the remake is out.

>thinking you can't like something as much as the other
People can have their favorites but there's no point in trying to get everyone to like the same thing no matter how hard you try and no amount of swastikas can change that

playing the long game

Updated because I suck at cropping.

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Why are you samefagging

>FF15's was really only a major problem with dense foliage.
LMAO sure that's was FFXV problem!
Not the shitty idea to bind attack *AND* movement to a single button!
Not the shitty broken targeting system!
Not the complete unpredictability of 80% of enemies attacks making the square button utterly useless!
Not limiting your choices to just 4 slots instead of a practical KH-style menu!
(ALL problems that are non-existent in FF7R)
No it was the foliage!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
holy shit Barry how do you keep getting more and more retarded as time goes on?

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It is because of retards like these that game will get lower scores.

>full game is better than a demo I played
It actually isn't

Cope fuckhead
XV is top 10 out of 57 games voted on
Noct is in 13th out of over 1000 characters voted on
Also ignoring that's a JAPAN poll not a worldwide one where far more people have played XV

man he even looks stupid

How are they samefagging?? You responded to only one post

We should have games play itself from now on. No wonder cancer like Twitch become so popular nowadays since people don't know how to play games.

It's Barry user, for him anyone is a samefag.

How long do we wait until we start getting fuckwads who start talking about how it's not Versus?

Show me worldwide polls with at least 500k votes.
C'mon Barry, you can do it.
YOU CAN DO IT.

>I played the demo retard
And so did him; why in the world should I give more credit to you when all evidence we have points at it being enormously better than XV?

Do you have the collage from that dead character-shilling namecuck where Barry has a massive meltdown? The best part is that the pasta he uses was made by someone else in complete irony and Barry's using it with total 100% sincerity.

Attack isn't bound to movement, spint is hold down circle where in combat you sprint towards the locked on enemy if you hold down O
and attack when holding only happens if in "range",, while if you tap you can do it anywhere
the targeting is fantastic and fluid
Every enemy has better telegraphed attacks than any ARPG SE has made

XV has 4 weapon slots while no other FF has more than 1 per character and no weapon switching either, even fucking kh3 only has 3 weapons max, 7R doesn't even have weapon switching at all
>kh menu
>practical
LMAOOOOOOO FUCK OFF AHAHAHAHAHAHA oh wait you're serious lmaooo

I thought the demo was pretty damn good. If the rest of the game is as well made, SE/FF is really back this time.

ooh he's getting mad

Stop samefagging

stop breathing

I would rather have character switching than weapon switching.

*plays Obsession from .hack//SIGN*

You first
Because I showed you multiple westerm polls and the famitsu heisei era poll all with XV in top 5 FFs

What evidence? 7R having no jump? No directional inputs? less attacks on cloud and barret combined than Noct alone? no weapon switching? no iframes on dodge roll making it useless? a literal play the game for you mode? get fucked

>Do you have the collage from that dead character-shilling namecuck where Barry has a massive meltdown?
Nope

>multiple westerm polls
And none of them reached 500k votes.
GET FUCKED BARRY KEK
LOL

Wow you're backpedaling already?

See And XV has both character and weapon switching

Found it, sauce is arch.b4k.co/v/thread/495502605/#495516317

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So you post western poll with 500k votes then?

that's all zeal falseflagging

Pic related he drew.
>chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/3862068

15 is the best FF

>Zeal is the namecuck
I'm pretty sure the namecuck exposed Zeal

How convenient, I have a cropped version right here:

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this

Your points being...?

Zeal is a moron who pretends to be multiple people constantly and thinks no one notices him talking to himself from his alt accounts unironically

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this honestly doesn't look like good or even better combat. looks like dumpster fire

That FF15 is the best FF

We all know that, the namecuck exposed him months ago by inflitrating his Discord, how does this prove that the person in the collage who's raging about FFXV is just Zeal falselfagging

>"It will remove all quirky enemies!"
>Proven wrong
>"B-b-but look how stupid does this particular summon looks!"

>"They will remove all the soul and atmosphere!"
>Proven wrong
>"B-b-but Midgar is no more the suicide-inducing 1984-tier ultra-dystopian nightmare it always was in my headcanon!"

>"They will remove scenes and plot details and turn it into a shitty recap"
>Nothing is removed, there's actually even more stuff than before
>"I never asked for this! What was in the original was enough!"

>"They'll turn Aerith into pure waifu stereotype!"
>Proven wrong
>"B-b-but what she says "help me" once!"

>"They'll remove the crossdressing scene"
>Proven wrong
>"B-b-but they'll surely censor it in some way..."
>Proven wrong again
>"B-b-but someone says something about "gender"!"

>"Tifa is censored! Her boobs are smaller!"
>Proven wrong
>"B-b-but her design is still worse for other reasons!"

>"You'll pay 60 bucks for a 10-hours game at best!!"
>There's actually so much stuff they had to put it into 2CDs
>"B-B-But bigger don't necessarily mean better!!"

>"It will be an empty open-world wasteland!"
>Proven wrong
>"B-B-But it's not the FF13-tier linear hallway I wanted!"

>"It will be a FF13-tier linear hallway!"
>Proven wrong
>"B-B-But it's not the empty open-world wasteland I wanted!"

>"The combat is going to be a button mash fest"
>It's actually so deep and much better than the auto-attack FFXV
>"Deny both evidence and testimony! The combat is a button mash fest!"

Here, I fixed it for you

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>>"It will be an empty open-world wasteland!"
>>Proven wrong
>>"B-B-But it's not the FF13-tier linear hallway I wanted!"
>>"It will be a FF13-tier linear hallway!"
>>Proven wrong
>>"B-B-But it's not the empty open-world wasteland I wanted!"
AHHHHAAHAHAHAHA

>498068652
Watch Barry lose his touch

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>>"You'll pay 60 bucks for a 10-hours game at best!!"
>>There's actually so much stuff they had to put it into 2CDs
>>"B-B-But bigger don't necessarily mean better!!"

You're saying this about a game that had a third CD that was five hours content at most. This literally means nothing

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Because only he is retarded enough to do that

>the targeting is fantastic and fluid

>Every enemy has better telegraphed attacks than any ARPG SE has made

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Are you retarded? that clip is just showing there is an ATB like bar that fills up that you can do commands through
And it's god tier

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That's all? No post records, no IP addresses, no nothing? is right, perhaps you're losing your touch after all

7R is literally the most shallow auto attack system ever
And it is proven ff13 tier hallway
soul was removed from ff7
they did remove scenes and plot details, 90% of the rest of the game
aerith is a pure waifu stereotype
no one said cross dressing wouldn't be in and they said in 2015 it would be
tifa is censored and shrunken tits
it is barely even 10 hours long
preview people played 3 hours and got to chapter 10 which is the sewers, there's only 18 chapters

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>Are you retarded?
no, are you?

what is this supposed to show?

You are? Ok.

thanks for proving you never played it

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>What evidence?
Evidence collected in years of screenshots, official trailers and testimony from actual players.

>7R having no jump?
Um... sorry I thought we were talking about combat...?

>No directional inputs?
You mean that irrelevant garbage that no one cared about in FFXV?

>less attacks on cloud and barret combined than Noct alone?
I said "evidence", not "stuff Barry pulled out its ass"

>no weapon switching?
I'll take character switching over that any time thanks.

>no iframes on dodge roll making it useless?
Except it doesn't? And that you still can defend, contrary to FFXV?

>a literal play the game for you mode?
You mean a mode that no one forces you to play and that's not "play the game for you"?