What is the vidya equivalent of this?

What is the vidya equivalent of this?

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That stupid line puzzle game Jonathan Blow made. Pretentious bullshit just for the sake of making pretentious bullshit to see if people call him out on it.

Journey

Deadly Premonition.

This.

clicker

Undertale

Gone Home

That Bubsy fangame where he visits a modern art museum.

>objects only function is to get rid of shit, but doesn't
your favorite game

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And gone home and The mountain and Tacoma.

There is no engagement thus no game.

Quest for the Crown onemorelevel.com/game/quest_for_the_crown

But Undertale isn't pretentious.

Gone Home. All the bullshit about it "trancending the norms of video games" has cemented its spot as the signed urinal of vidya.

The piece is mostly based around the context at the time, but it still holds up mostly because of it, but is still versatile enough because of how vague it is. It's not the only piece that creates the same questions and discussion but by being so "dumb" and vulgar it gets a lot more attention, plus being humorous and self aware.
It's not deep, at least it doesn't need to be for anyone to get the point it's making. Is it art? Many people argue that anything can be art so here is this. He signed it and called it an art piece, exposed it as art, and now you question, is it art then? Something so fucking basic. But the moment it generates discussion about it and different opinions and takes on it, yeah, it becomes obvious that it can and it art. So how low can you even go?
And all this isn't even that much about the actual context of the piece when it was made. Art is very subjective and this is one of the many takes a person can have about it. Still, the popularity of it isn't because of its depth so calling it pretentious is missing the point a bit.

death stranding

Tetris?

this
I thought the whole point of the piece was to shit on the art community

>t. has no clue what the piece means
duchamp did literally NOTHING wrong you fucking cretins

in america we call those peepee gurglers

Fuck you

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Not a whole lot of people know about art history though, user.

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Resistance is futile

There's no equivalent as far as I know. All the indie posers are sincere about their pretentiousness.

Fuck off, clearly some people missed the point, in what way did the user do wrong by explaining it a bit. It's even in really basic English, no bullshit deep sounding words.

A game where a lot of people who hate it actually agree with the message the artist was trying to send? The Stanley Parable.

Journey is awesome you nigger.

No one hates Stanley parable.

There's only one answer.

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>implying the urinal isn't
educate yourself, please

Not really hate, but it can be said that it's more of a walking simulator then game and pretentious in a way. But over all yeah, it fits better then most examples ITT

Considering the context, it should be something controversial where the dev says fuck you to the publisher by making something shit intentionally. Hong Kong 97 if we count bootlegs, I guess.

This but unironically, also fuck you

>R. Mutt

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you cheeky bastard, I lost the game thanks to you

You just forgot the part that he said he had developed so much contempt for the status quo that he wanted to destroy art, which in a way he did, since the monkeys didn't understand the intention of questioning the status quo and started exposing their own versions of the urinal in a non-ironic way.

>Mutt
>ruins art
unsurprising

>R. Mutt

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Cow clicker. It was created as a low effort satire of Facebook "games", but became unexpectedly popular and basically created the entire clicker genre.

Breath of the wild

spec ops the line

It's a piece by French dadaist Marcel Duchamp, you numptys. He signed it "Mutt" in reference to what was at the time a well known plumbing and toilet manufacturer.

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>to get rid of shit
It’s a urinal bud

Oh I remember this shit. Wasn't the prize completely worthless and just another scam?

Spec Ops: The Line

The prize was being god of the next game they made, which was a scam that was never finished

Hello fren, would it be okay if I saved this copypasta for future use? Thanks in advance

Death Stranding

>pretends to be more than it is
>is functionally useless
>people think it's great
>is a basic bitch attempt
It's Spec Ops: The Line

You also forgot
>it's shit on purpose

But Journey was cool!

lol shut up nerd, that's clearly a urinal with a gloryhole attackment

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Spec Ops is shit by accident, which is worse

attachment*, fuck

For a game to be the equivalent of fucking urinal it must have been made for the sole purpose of disdaining the definition of games and still have been culturally relevant and inspired other developers to do the same thing because they did not understand that it was an ironic questioning.
The only thing I think vaguely looks like this is Goat Simulator. Even so it still has some "value" for the sandbox mode and is not something completely retarded to games as the urinal was to art.

I guess those zero effort steam games, but those are more like money laundering things than a guy fucking around to see just what he can get on the steam store.

I've always wondered how someone's mind could get so warped that they'd draw this or pay someone to draw it.

The narrative is shit on accident sure, but the devs outright stated the gameplay was shit on purpose

That's tough.

We can all agree for music it's Death Grips and for anime it's Evangelion though I think.

Everyone will say some dumb shit like
But duchamp hated the art scene at the time and made the piece as a joke to get artists mad, but people took it seriously.
Is one of the few answers that makes sense

I would say
Sonic Dreams Collection
Also fits

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>on accident
Yep, you're a dumb fuck

>that's clearly a urinal
Yes, obviously. That is the point.
Dadaists hated modern art, Duchamp essentially was saying "you fuckers are so far up your own asses that you'd stick a toilet in your museum if it only had a name on it" and turns out he was right.

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This guy gets it

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Dadaism is still alive and well, still trolling the fuck out of modern art retards. They've proven that you don't even have to officially submit a piece of non-art to an art exhibit to trick them into displaying it like art.

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Is this what the DCI guy felt when Snake didn't shake?

Can you give me a quick rundown on dada?

He's the guy who fucked your mama.

Danganronpa V3 in a sense, since the series director was fucking tired of the autistic fanbase, the waifufags and the game itself

Sony as a whole

>shit all over aesthetic value because muh message stickin it to the man, man
This is why modern "art" is absolute trash. Art died after the impressionists.

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proto ironic shitposting

It's "anti-art" and a protest against the pretentiousness of modern art. Modern art has gotten so pretentious that it's beyond parody though, so modern dadaism has evolved into sneaking objects into art exhibits without officially submitting them, like the pineapple. There was another artist who submitted a bananna duct taped to a wall as art, and then someone ate it after it had been valued at $100k (probably as a joke).

Modern art is so stupid and pointless that it eventually co-opts whatever dadaism is doing and then does it unironically with some 4deep5u explanation tacked on to it. You can literally show someone an artist's smock and they will try to tell you that there's deep meaning and intent behind every smudge of color that says a lot about society.

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Desert Bus

Basically in the early 20th century, when WWI ended. There was an abundance of artists who wanted to take expressionism and cubism to the next level. Expressionism and cubism were reactions to impressionism art. Essentially art was looking too pretty and dreamy and some asshole said "hey lets make art that reflects other feelings besides melacholy and call it expressionism"

Then after WWI everyone was like "fuck I feel things you people wouldn't believe the world doesn't make sense, so let's make art to reflect this notion" aka dada

For me it's Malevich.

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Oh fuck this counts as well

Progress Quest. A shitpost that accidentally spawned an entire genre.

Because humans evolved from the need for structure and understood that emotional attachment doesn't drive from direct narratives.
If think art died when people stop painting about the Bible, you're literally a troglodyte

Very based. A lot of people look at this or pollock and go, “I could do this!” If that were so, why haven’t you?

Right, it's often described as coming out of the insanity of WWI. Destruction comes fast and the world is in a state of brutal chaos. Making chaotic art through newspaper clippings utilizes new mediums. Dadaism sees culture naturally decaying and absurd, so the continuation of reacting to reaction is trolling, of leaving urinals in art shows signed in protest. The statement is powerful and the disdain expressed in it does make it valuable, but like a lot of weird art, most people just see it as is. It's like walking in on an awkward part of a conversation and judging people based on what you hear then. You may want to get some context before passing judgement. And no, not you, just speaking generally.

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Why don't you become a reggaeton singer?

not an exact equivalent but the Binding of Issac has some similarities.

weird subject matter
starts a genre based of it

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David Cage games

You have a fundamental misunderstand of this piece, so it doesn’t surprise me you have a fundamental misunderstand of that game

For me it's Friedman. Unironically

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Cookie clicker

yes. all these brainlets see this toilet and think "what a bunch of retarded pretentious nonsense" without understanding that's entirely the point. the point is to call into question the value of art and the cultures surrounding art.
so with this in mind, i genuinely can't think of a single comparable video game, because video games are entirely devoid of artistic merit or non-juvenile social commentary

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A game purposefully designed to generate butthurt and defy/question what makes a videogame.

The one thing that's hard to mirror is the almost religious tier value and status people attribute to art, since videogames for the most part have always been considered juvenile.
If anything, people now hold the sentiment that games are art than before.

I can't think of any games that are considered such a prolific turningpoint in how people view their medium and its institutions.

Is a photograph of a sculpture the same piece of art as the sculpture or is it a different art entirely? Should we credit both sculptors and photographers?

I'd argue this image has had more influence on people than the actual sculpture has.

>everyone
>two people not even looking at it
It's funny though.

i don't know man. read walter benjamin or something. he gets at this question in Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction

/thread
I genuinely appreciate the insightful artfags' input, though.

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postal?

pollock actually fucking sucks though and was literally a CIA-funded psyop.
duchamp was somewhat novel and punk, unlike that fucking hack, pollock. pollock is what people are actually thinking of when they call the duchamp's toilet "pretentious"

user that wrote this:

Sonic Dreams Collection
Stanley parable
and especially are actually kind of good examples

I wouldn't call them as important as fountain but they come closer to its meta commentary.

While it had a critical aspect, for me it was still too much of an actual bro-shooter at its core to really feel that challenging. It was a hell of a ride, but its critical edge was more expertly done emotional sauce on an otherwise unironic shooter.

It was a reaction to the 'rational' western world and politics that still managed to have a devastating world war, mind you TWICE in a row not long after. Apart form just trolling institutions it tried to actively reject rationalism as to start anew with something instead of continueing heritage and traditions so intertwined with guilt and violence.

Never played that one, was it not just a boomershooter at the core? Or was it more immersive sim style sandbox?

I hate Pollock and I hate the CIA and now finding out the two are related my life is complete.

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>a CIA-funded psyop
wat

Duchamp sucks.
Damien Hirst sucks.
Pollock sucks.
Warhol sucks.
Jeff Koons sucks.
Richard Serra sucks.
Alexander Calder sucks.
Christo and Jeanne-Claude suck.

in the cold war both russia and burgers had lots of cultural propaganda
russia prided itself with happyrussiastronk socialrealism (other art was HEAVILY censored especially)
the US in turn tried to promote new modern artists to show how free and creative the western capitalist world was through the armory show and shit.
Both were basically businesscards/advertising for the rest of the world to either take the Marshallplan freedumbs pill or take the glorious revolution pill

you suck my big dick lmao

half based half retarded
truly the definition of based retard

as other user said, Pollock was certifiably funded by the CIA as a countermeasure to Soviet artistic movement.
the only reason anybody knows his shitty name is because he's been shilled.

The greatest art piece funded by the CIA was a performance piece.

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no, THIS was the greatest performance piece funded by the CIA

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Fez by Phil Fish

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Wow, this guy is pretty handsome, who is he?

no, THIS was the greatest performance piece by the CIA

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no THIS was the greatest performance piece funded by the CIA

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no this is the greatest performance series of united states of psyop

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>ANYTHING CAN BE ART LOL
>EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL LOL
>EVERYTHING IS SUBJECTIVE LMAO
I hate it when people say this bullshit. Sure, you can stretch the definition of most things but (1) you're being an obtuse moron and (2) you're devaluing the importance of accurate terminology

well, we knew it had to end here

Death Stranding.

>no THIS was the greatest performance piece funded by the CIA

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I liked the prequel era CIA performances better

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What if I'm an atheist and think the best art stopped not long after people stopped painting about the Bible?

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Not everything can be art. But all human self expression can be.

this is the correct answer. at its best, it's a lazy critique of artsy games. at its most honest, it's low effort, useless and ugly.

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Then you are a retard.

>not long after people stopped painting about the Bible?
Well this never happened so let's hear a date.

no THIS was the greatest performance piece funded by the CIA

youtube.com/watch?v=t9eybY9qFfY

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Passage
The Graveyard
Dear Esther

GOAT performance art

>you're devaluing the importance of accurate terminology
t. retarded prescriptivist
if these general categories can't stand up to some questioning, they're clearly not as accurate or comprehensive as you think

>no THIS was the greatest performance piece funded by the CIA
For me? It's MK-ULTRA

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