Favorite PKMN game?
Favorite PKMN game?
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Gen 5 was shitty
Crystal, all pokemon games after sucked.
Pokemon should have ended after Tajiri stopped directing.
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Of mainline, BW1
Of in general, PMD Sky
What did Mallow mean by this?
Stricken between Plat and BW2
HGSS
Platinum
Emerald
B2W2 despite Unova being a shitty region
>Crystal, all pokemon games after sucked.
Nah, Gen 2 sucks cock.
FRLG HGSS PMD EoS
Mainline games are ass
ORAS
stadium 1/2/
colosseum
>mfw stadium 3 never
Crystal and emerald and Pokémon stadium 2.
I love all of them equally.
Gen 3 remakes
Pikmin 2 is the best.
Here's your Stadium 3
The one with the brown girl with the abs and the bodysuit? I don't even play the game anymore since blue/red but i masturbated to her a bunch of times so i guess that's the best one and the worst one is your favorite gen.
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Reminder that N was right and the end of BW2 proved it.
Did we eve find out what N stood for?
No, but his name his Harmonia.
SoulSilver. I thought the attempt at storytelling was mediocre in BW1 and improved a lot in BW2.
Why though? Emerald is better by every concievable measure.
Natural Hamonia Gropius
reminds me of that user who said his parents named him Aurora Meadow.
Where’s the president?
Sounds like a fancy way of saying N_____igger
hgss was the funnest i had with mainline pokemon games
i have fond memories of red rescue team and explorers of darkness
Various reason. Also it's not like we didn't get the battle subway.
>I thought the attempt at storytelling was mediocre in BW1 and improved a lot in BW2.
Only because B2/W2 regressed back to the Pokemon standard of "eight gyms/evil team and Legendary/Elite Four and Champ".
BW1 was the same except you had cheren or bianca interrupting you every time you reach a new town for a fight. It was the beginning of the friend cancer that got turned up to eleven in XY.
>Subway
It was so immemorable you didn't even remember the actual name, it's the Battle Maison, which is literally just a downgraded Battle Tower.
But no, really, tell me why. It's completely illogical that anyone would like ORAS over Emerald. I must know.
AM is not a terrible nickname
First two gen remakes on gba are super comfy.
The whole Team Plasma plot and its attempt to shake up the status-quo of the Pokemon world put it a notch above prior plots. B2/W2 just made them straight-up Team Rocket copies.
More mons, proper day-night cycle, better battle system with the physical/special split. Also nu-May and Courtney a cute.
PokeMMO
Platinum and SM
I guess, but I feel everything they ruined/took away from Emerald makes it incredibly inferior.
>no Frontier, obviously
>can't wipe out both evil teams
>ruined Dewford Cave
>ruined Scorched Slab
>no Gamecorner/Replacement
>ruined New Mauville, in ORAS it's only one room
>no gym leader rematches
>didn't use the improved Emerald gym leader teams
>turned Wallace into a turbofaggot
>can't catch both Kyogre and Groudon
>completely ruined Brendan's design with that hideous bodysuit
It's so awful, man. They massacred my boy.
Based. Can't wait for the legendary dungeons. I don't understand why Nintendo and Gametard can't do something like this.
here. I like ORAS because it has my favorite region, Pokemon and music. I also don't give a shit about the Battle Frontier.
Emerald
HGSS
Platinum
GSC
FRLG
also pic related
All of those are fair points, but since umbreon is one of my favorite pokemon I just could not forgive the lack of a proper night time. Especially since you can't transfer from gen2.
I can't like nu-May with how her official art looks. Those spaghetti ass limbs in more ways than just thickness.
Doing simultaneous challenge runs with your friends is peak Pokemon. When a pokemon dies then the sorrow is shared since you actually know and give a fuck about it because it was your friend's bro but it also traveled with you.
No....
You can get it in Emerald though, remember that cloxk you set in the beginning? It still registers time, just doesn't show it. So the time based eeveeloutions still happen.
Moemon
Legendary dungeons are at the top of my wish list too, right next to finishing the battle Frontier and adding the Sinnoh underground.
>I don't understand why Nintendo and Gametard can't do something like this.
They don't feel the need to step up their game because they're still breaking records just by pushing out a minimum viable product. If the majority of their fans eventually catch on to this, then we may start seeing some change.
Honestly I've always thought that Emerald was her best version.
The truth is, I never did play emerald. I pretty much skipped all the third versions because I had already racked up over 500 hours on one of the two originals that it just felt like a slog doing it all over again.
Oh my god dude, emulate that shit. If you like ORAS you'll love Emerald. You're missing out.
>The truth is, I never did play emerald
Don't feel too bad, neither did Gamefreak.
>arguing about a game you haven't even played
Jesus Christ Yea Forums
Look how they massacred my boy...
>cherry picking this hard
Both gens 2 and 5 are great for different reasons and both having a challenging post-game, get over yourself
can't wait for the unfinished sinnoh remakes
>replying to that autist
he posts that everytime someone praises GSC/remakes
Whoops!
I just kinda figured it couldn't be that different from the originals.
She means her handbag, right?
>Battle frontier project 2: electric boogaloo
>Year of our Lord and Savior
>Still no AAA MMO Pokemon game
Remakes are better losers. Third game changes are incremental and the all the loads of additions are better than than the fringe bullshit removed or replaced.
The Rangers games. Too bad for the walls of dialogue boxes tho
Do you seriously think they can even get anything remotely good going on?
>and both having a challenging post-game
There's nothing challenging about GSC's postgame tho.
Soul Silver/Heart Gold.
Peak of the whole series
4 Gen had the best mechanics, and these 2 had the best campgain of series.
Fire Red/Leaf Green and Emerald on second and third place respectively
Is an MMO even really nececssary? I felt like you'd get everything a Pokemon MMO could offer with just the PSS.
I'M STILL FUCKING PISSED THEY REMOVED THE PSS
FRLG and HGSS were great remakes. Kept all the 3rd version stuff and even added more. There's no reason ORAS couldn't do the same outside of sheer laziness. It's ugly and inferior, simple as.
ORAS is complete shit compared to Emerald retard
>Peak of the whole series
Wasn't even the best game on Gen 4, that's Platinum.
I'm really fond of games that push hardware in funny ways so I'm still pretty fond of pokemon crystal.
based colosseum bro. rest in piece genius sonority, who were arguably better than game freak at making pokemon
gen3 by far
>gen3 by far
Nah, Gen 4 makes 3 obsolete.
>physical/special being tied to type
One thing that HG/SS improved over Crystal is not locking Ho-oh behind the three Beast Legends.
I'll sacrifice that in an already braindead easy game for all the shit Emerald did flat out better.
Even Pokemon XD was fantastic. They had great ideas desu.
Ruby
Emerald was balanced around that. The remakes weren't.
It never did really get better than Gold/Silver/Crystal. The remakes are obviously a more polished take on the same entries so they're up there too. But for me, it peaked in gen 2.
>Emerald was balanced around that.
It wasn't. Dark and Ghost types got gimped, everyone else got by their shitty movepools.
I remember seeing that giant Wailord in promotional stuff for the game
I was about a year or two too young to have had an N64 so I knew nothing about Stadium, 3D pokemon battles blew my mind
Yessir, that plus
>brought Kanto back up to full size
>gym rematches
>Frontier
>Kanto and Hoenn starters being obtainable
>more catchable legendaries
>Misdreavus, Larvitar, Murkrow and Steelix being catchable earlier
>Elite 4 rematches
>following Pokemon
HGSS is how all remakes should be done. It just oozes passion for the originals.
so, what happened to gamefreak after HGSS?
They peaked with Gen 5.
It was. Hell, Sceptile got neutered where it can't even use its signature move post split because it's high attacking stat was special. Although some mons were worse off, yeah.
>brought Kanto back up to full size
No, it didn't. It only restored the dungeons that the original Gen2 games cut for space. Kanto itself is still heavily gimped compared to its original design in Gen1 and its remake.
>Misdreavus, Larvitar, Murkrow and Steelix being catchable earlier
Only if you have the Pokewalker, and good luck getting a hold of that these days.
>>brought Kanto back up to full size
>>gym rematches
>>Frontier
This should be expected honestly, FRLG beforehand already included postgame islands, Platinum already included them both rematches and the BF. Platinum's rematch system is infinitely better tho.
>Elite 4 rematches
Same as above should be expected. In the end, HGSS really didn't change much as we expected. they just threw more stuff in there without fixing the core issues of the OG GS.
>Hell, Sceptile got neutered where it can't even use its signature move post split because it's high attacking stat was special
Bro Sceptile got it good thanks to moves like Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Leaf Storm and Grass Knot.
Not too sure. They made BW1 and 2, which were good, but then gen 6 came and those games were noticably worse, but it was chalked up to the rocky transition to 3D. But every subsequent game just got worse and worse, with less shit to do. SwSh pretty much proved old Pokemon quality will never come back. They had a full sized console to deal with and they made a game that had less shit in it than the fucking 3DS games, charged more for it and had the fucking gall to make paid DLC on top of it.
As an ex-hardcore Pokemon fanatic, there is no fanbase more cucked than Pokemon. Not even close. I cashed out after SM.
>I cashed out after SM.
I cashed out after B2/W2. I was waiting for them to announce a sequel or third game to X/Y, but it never came and I eventually realized that I didn't miss playing.
Safari Zone and Safari Zone gate, user.
Also forgot Pokeathalon being the only good secondary objective.
>Pokewalker
Nope, Safari Zone and the new route before it. No waiting either, they're available right away.
>cashed out after BW2
Literally the best time to leave. You've seen all the good shit, user. You're missing nothing.
>No waiting either, they're available right away.
These areas are locked until the middle to late Johto game.
It was clear to me that GameFreak had no intention to move away from status-quo after they tried something new with B/W only to go right back immediately for B2/W2.
Yeah, but I meant the time mechanic the Johto Safari Zone has, where in order to get some rare Pokemon, you gotta place objects and wait.
What I mean was they're available as soon as you get to the Safari Zone. Sorry for the miscommunication.
Veteran Shaun took me by surprise. I struggled against him more than I did against Iris.
Honestly, the SZ should've been replaced with something else like the Pokelathon. The rest of the Johto region is still Kantomon central. You have occasional areas like the cliff leading to the SZ but those are far and between.
I mean, credit to BW2, they're good Pokemon games, but I've always enjoyed BW1 more as a standalone Pokemon game. But yeah, something broke at Gamefreak HQ after BW2, and things just haven't recovered at all. Honestly, the fact that people actually defend SwSh is what turned me off from the series completely. We were promised a game for the hardcore old fans like me, and we get this paint by numbers penny-pinching piece of shit? I was incredulous.
I'll love gens 1-5 til I die, but I'm fucking done with this series. Fuck Gamefreak. They blew it.
XY were far from the best in the series but they were still good and fun games you uptight fucks. They shit the bee with ORAS and haven't recovered.
XY was acceptable at best
the wormhole feature was actually cool in USUM, too bad about the game itself. would've loved something like that in the old games
XY were mediocre and forgettable. I still can't remember a single gym leader or elite 4 member from Kalos. Also Diantha was the worst champ and Flare is the worst evil team.
The only memorable thing from XY was Hex Maniac's design.
Heartgold. Great length, lots of content, and extremely comfy. It has these great optional excursions to go on, like Mt. Silver or the ocean route that leads to Lugia. So in light of the main adventure that spans two regions, you still have things to do where you feel that same sense of adventure as the main story. And compared to finishing every other pokemon game, there was always so much end game content. Finding npcs I hadn't talked to yet that had items to give or battles, new routes to explore, legendaries to go get etc. In terms of graphics it's right there on par with DPP, great sprites and the world aesthetic is perfect.
I rank them as the worst games n the series.
The Sinnoh Underground Project Has Started!
i think they're not good at all, but they're definitely better than Sun/Moon and SW/SH.
The Survival Area Project Has Started!
XY had some good features like PSS, amie, or trainer customization, but the game itself was ass.
Valerie is the only one I remember. I liked her gym and town music.
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The "friends" completely ruined it for me. I felt the urge to turn off the 3DS every time I was forced to interact with them.
The Great Marsh Project Has Started!
Lots of memorable MILF gym leaders.
It ha a shit ton of great NPC designs in general
3rd/4th/7th generations are by far worse games.
>3rd/4th
kys
gen 3/4 babby here
As someone who played BW2 first, BW1 is almost unplayable to me
>Takes a long-ass time to get your fucking running shoes
>Even longer to get your bike
>No secret trees and no means to get hidden ability mons now that online is dead
>Graphics are worse in practically every way
>>>>>>>>CAN'T REGISTER YOUR POKÉMON LIST TO THE QUICK SELECT MENU
>Barely any Triple/Rotation battles
>Three, THREE fucking rivals that interrupt you EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
>Mon distribution is generally worse, even only counting Unova mons
>Story is way too up its own ass about pseudo-phylosophical posturing
>gym leaders didnt use mega evolutions
That right there is enough proof that X/Y is the shittiest game in the series.
3rd/4th gen are zoomer bullshit. The only people who like them are the people who were kids when they came out. HGSS & B/W saved the series from the slow death .
my dick twitched
This.
Any other answer is heresy.
Except for Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky. Those are top shit.
They really were the absolute worst, holy fuck.
>3rd/4th gen are zoomer bullshit.
And HGSS and BW aren't?
>Platinum & B/W saved the series from the slow death
FTFY because Platinum literally saved its region, Unova was the last time the series was good.
>3rd/4th gen are zoomer bullshit.
As is 6 nigger
gens 3, 4, and even 7 shit all over 6
it can be interpreted in many different ways
>Mt Coronet gets the Sun/Moon volcano treatment and is just exits and entrances
Please give dream world abilities
BW are in no way better than 3rd or 4th gen, zoomer.
>Half the Pokemon I like have great hidden abilities
>hidden abilities aren't in the game yet and I'll likely have to re-train those Pokemon when they eventually do come out
>BW are in no way better than 3rd or 4th gen, zoomer
Better than 3, on par with 4. Unlike Gen 3, 5 doesn't have any issues that seriously negate a large portion of the game like Gen 3's lack of the split. It allows for more experimentation through infinite TMS, better rivals, E4 and overworld (no agua).
I can never replay the older games because of trade evolutions. All my favorite pokemon require some bullshit ass ways to evolve.
There's no reason for shit like this to still be around. Fuck.
pokecoomer
You forgot the shit music in the remake. I was straight up disgusted when I heard the wild battle theme for the first time. The original is full of life and pizazz, the remake theme is muted in comparison. It's funny because all they basically did was change the trumpets but it has such a huge impact that its jarring. Listening from 25 seconds into each song shows a massive difference.
this is why i like pokemmo honestly. i love running through kanto with a strong ass alakazam
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Gen 2 doesn't have a post game. Kanto is just Act 2. The only "post" game it has is Mt Silver.
Charlie should be between "food at home" and "black coffee"
The President is deep into "black coffee and leaves."
Wtf is this? I don't remember a gen 2 gba remake
I'm forever thankful to my sister and friend who lost interest in handhelds and gave me theirs.
Sceptile sucks, but not because Leaf Blade. It got Energy Ball as a replacement, and already has high physical attack.
Unfortunately, most grass type starters are the worst of their gens balance-wise. Venusaur is the singular exception to that rule, where it was and is the best of the 3.
autistic design changes that really ruined it. one-time TMs, no legendaries, your pokemon being deleted after breeding once, no shaking grass pokemon or dust clouds. the fact they want you to soulessly grind for cash to buy TMs instead of having it the way it was in BW is just disgusting. the whole "economy" aspect is revolting. Every now and then I try to come back to this game but I remember why I left.
Kanto isn't done yet, but elite four is done.
Except there is shaking grass and dust clouds. It's just that there are a few specific spots where it can happen and there can only be 2 happening in the entire region at one time.
Gen 8 is good. Dexit didnt affect anything and the game is much better than gens 6 and 7
based, I want an XD sequel so bad
>one-time TMs
TMs were one-time use until Gen VI, PokeMMO goes up to Gen V.
>no shaking grass pokemon or dust clouds
Those are called phenomenons and they're in the Unova region, which is the region they originated in.
>no legendaries
A few legendaries are in the game but you can't keep them permanently right now, they behave more like a CTF objective. The next update on the list is to make challenging dungeons to house legendary Pokemon that you can keep. They're called "legendary" for a reason, not everyone should be easily running around with all of them.
>your pokemon being deleted after breeding once
This is probably the most controversial change in the game but I believe it's a necessary evil. If Pokemon could breed an infinite number of times, you would just be able to dispense unlimited 6x31 Pokemon, there would be no point in working towards anything when you could just get all your Pokemon for chump change.
>the fact they want you to soulessly grind for cash
>the whole "economy" aspect is revolting
I don't think MMOs are for you.
The Safari zone was pure tedium shit. I'm not waiting a goddamned week to get Larvitar or Murkrow when I could catch them in the wild by that point.
HG/SS could've been good if they updated the routes any. More, varied wild Pokemon, caught earlier, with shitmons like Murkrow, Houndour, Misdreavus, and etc being catchable earlier, and, for Christ's sake, fix the fucking gym leaders. Morty didn't need an even stronger Gengar, he needed a Mismagius.
I played HG/SS as a kid and I thought it was great at the time, but now that I've grown up and played good Pokemon games, I realize it's still the same awful Gen 2 in a pretty coat of paint. Great as a remake, but the source material is still utter fucking shit.
It's not hard to top gens 6 and 7 seeing as how the series peaked in the ds era
No, X/Y were awful. Among other things, they ruined the game by adding Fairy types, and that alone is enough to drop them to a 3/10 game. Still better than S/S and LGPE, but only just.
>, I realize it's still the same awful Gen 2 in a pretty coat of paint. Great as a remake, but the source material is still utter fucking shit.
The worst thing about HGSS is that it keeps Johto as the sequel region to Kanto instead being it's own region like Sinnoh or Hoenn or Unova.
>Turn it to goo
That's the moment I grew a massive boner for this little brown slut.
That's exactly my problem with it. I understand wanting to be faithful to the original, but nostalgiafags are blind retards anyways. Nostalgiafag pandering is exactly why we have KANTOOOOOO in everything now.
Truly they are the blemish on this series. Gott strafe nostalgiafaggotry
>veteran trainers
>only one has 6 pokemon
>none have items
Why does gamefreak insist on making you the only competent trainer in the universe?
Masuda honestly should've been the one to do HGSS. Morimoto's previous work as a director was Emerald and jack shit happens in that one outside of the BF.
It'd be obnoxious if every trainer was packing a Smogon team.
>Walk into a cave
>Fight 1 (one) veteran
>Left with 2 Pokemon at half health
We aren't talking about every trainer though, they're veteran trainers, they're supposed to be the hard ones.
Idk I thought XY and S/M we’re fine, ORAS was okay mostly because I love hoenn, and USUM were actually damn good aside from z moves.
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Fairy is fine and was necessary to stop all the fighting and dragons from dominating the meta a la Gen V. Also made some mons a lot better thanks to added typing, and indirectly buffed poison typing to relevancy again.
>our pokemon being deleted after breeding once
interesting, so it's more like reincarnation than breeding
Because then people and especially kids would get their shit kicked in when their over-leveled starter or mediocre team comp gets crushed.
I always hated that about TMs.
>TMs were one-time use until Gen VI,
Gen 5.
>incel transfer pack
What did they mean by this?
Wait, wtf? I never realized how small the weather trio is. They always portray them as these massive titans compared to everyone else.
Groudon is like 11 feet tall.
Kyorge is like 14-15 feet tall/long.
Fug is like 23 feet long
But wailord is literally 47 feet long.
what's the biggest pokemon? Hoopa-U?
Only game I know thats done this well is Dragon Quest Monsters. The Synthesis system is so damn good. You lose your two original parent monsters, but the child can come out much stronger compared to them both.
I always go back to FRLG, sometimes just to revisit the Sevii Islands, so probably that one. I find its atmosphere and artstyle the most pleasant and relaxing. I'm glad that the touhou-pokemon game used it.
Loved the Johto games too and rescue team.
it helps that the remixed johto soundtracks for the Sevii Islands are peak Pokemon music
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pokemon revolution is better
>tfw lost my original FRLG cartridge with my shiny Spearow
He was my first shiny ever.
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my favorite
You should try Monster Rancher.
>tfw traded away my first shiny (a swabalu) for my friend's swampert because I didn't know how rare they were
Kanto doesn't even qualify as an Act 2. For the most part, it's just a bonus stage that exists only to let you play God Mode on a bunch of underleveled Trainers. Only Red and maybe Blue can provide any actual challenge.
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They realized how little effort they had to put forth by poking their head up and taking a look around in the industry.
Don't feel too bad, the battery probably would be dead by now anyways. I still need to replace the battery in my original silver cartridge.