Game has Japanese text

Words cannot describe how much I want to pummel this bitch’s face. This fucking cunt always naysaying me about how I can’t learn a language. Fuck you. I’ll do what I want.

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>took me nearly 13 years to learn kana
any other master procrastinators here

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE KANJIRINOS I'M GOING INSANE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

This is the main reason console gaming sucks. You can't attach a text hooker to it to extract Kanji so I can look them up.

yes

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Same but only five months katakana included

That's what's good about console gaming, it forces you to stop being a shitter.

The only way to beat her is to learn Japanese.

How long did it take you?

If you can't read this, you're not gonna make it.

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安倍晴 明

learn classical japanese, you cuck

I am. My hatred of her has given me the motivation.

What games have you been playing today? I've been playing this.

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陰陽師平安回顧録

aidorumasutammirionraibushiataddeizurimasumirimasumirishitasurekorochan
How did I do?

>13 years
>not N1

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>game has Japanese text

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A little over a year.

Towelket 3
here's your "good job!" sticker

They decided not to use the Japanese voice overs because they thought the quality wasn’t very good. I love the original Biohazard boxart it looks amazing it’s too bad the west ruined it

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>here's your "good job!" sticker
Wait really? That's cool. Maybe I'm not that retarded after all

>魍魎
Hey, I actually know that one. It's even cooler when part of the compound 魑魅魍魎.

close enough
アイドルマスターミリオンライブシアターデイズグリマスミリマスミリシタスレコロちゃん
viper.2ch.sc/test/read.cgi/news4vip/1583010138//l50

How do Japs read this shit what the actual fuck is wrong with them

hehe, good job finding sauce.

アイドライクサムモアcowfee

You learn to recognize kanji really quickly, especially if it’s something you use a lot, like I love 悪魔城月下の夜想曲 so I got used to seeing it

>Idol Master Million Live Theater Days gurimasumirimasumirishitasurekoro chan
What is the rest supposed to be.

Lots of memorization. Japs have to use around 2000 kanji on average in daily life. Chinese have it worse where they use around 3000 and don’t have the kana. I hear Chinese grammar is a lot simpler though.

Apparently I have no idea how ー works though. What the hell is that?

>he's never been delusional enough to make his games in English for "cool points"
Didn't stop him from forcing the English VA into all the updated re-releases. I'm not sure about 3 but I know that MGS1's Integral and MGS2's Substance releases have English VA even in the Japanese versions.

Think about all the pokemon names, runescape gear and fotm Yea Forums memes lost to time you remember and ask yourself if 3000 characters is really too difficult.

Integral was literally a "MGS1 but now with English voices!" release, though. I don't know about Substance, I assume you get the option.

The text is so fucking small. How do you even read this. I need a fucking magnifying glass.

Integral had the expanded VR missions along with it, as well as all the improvements that the original western release of MGS1 got, like difficulty levels, as the original Japanese MGS1 only has what's Easy in the west.

I'm pretty sure neither of them let you choose which voice track you played with. You just got English and that was it.

ENHANCE.

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Maybe they use a lot of zoom. You can kinda see it if you make the post occupy the entire page

The funny thing is some games actually do it this way and you just have to know the general shape, because it's impossible to look these up.

Yeah, I've been looking into it, seems like you're right. I guess it helps justify the double dipping, and forces the poor nips to re-buy the original games if they want JP voices. Those guys have been getting fucked forever, at least these days companies like Konami can't use disc space as an excuse to cut out audio tracks. I figured the nips at least got a stand-alone VR missions release, but they got shafted there too, being forced to re-buy the game for them.

Also, is it 魔風?

Not the poster of the image, but 魔风 is my guess as well.

This feels like it'd make a fun test: which ones are low res Kanji characters and which ones are random graphical glitches on a Game Boy?

correct

Ok, serious question

Are Nama-sensei's videos good enough for a complete beginner? As in, someone that knows next to zero about the language.

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how

もっと!孕ませ!炎のおっぱい超エロアプリ学園

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is reading "Japanese the Manga Way" + Anki a good way to start learning Japanese?
how do I budget my time between the two?
any other good resources I should know about?

Methods I've used:
Anki
PuniPuni
Organic Japanese with Cure Dolly
Tae Kim
Learn Japanese To Survive! Kanji Combat
Influent

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Why the fuck would you spend years attempting to learn a dead language when you could use that time to master an actual useful skill such as coding?

goddammit, I fucking hate weebs holy shit

Neat. The best tip for learning Japanese I've found is that your brain interprets kanji sort of like pictures, so seeing the same one over and over, you develop a "feel" for it that guides you toward the right meaning. I don't have to study 吸う very much because only a few other common kanji look like it, so seeing it 10 times and correcting when you're wrong ends up making you very accurate with it after only a little practice.

Not trying to brag, by the way, I just want to help out beginners. You can even remember compound words this way - just associate the image of the two kanji together with the sound and meaning, and eventually they stick. You can even bypass having to use flashcards or writing if you do this, provided you're exposed to enough reading and listening material as substitute.

90% of programmers are weeaboos though

Coding doesn't excite me and I have no reason to learn how to code.

Because I don't want to learn coding. I want to learn Japanese. How is it a dead language when an entire country speaks it. You're a huge retard

I'm already a firmware engineer but also like untranslated kemohomo doujinshi, so.

anime website. Go back

learning coding won't let me climb the mountains of untranslated loli porn.

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My suggestion is to first learn grammar with Cure Dolly's videos, I tried doing Core2k first but felt I wasn't making any progress, then I watched some of Cure Dolly's lessons and went back to Core2k and fared much better. I was also able to discern some stupid mistakes and mislabeling in Core2k itself, as well as understand the ACTUAL meaning and structure behind sentences rather than the sanitized English translation it gives you. Thanks Dolly.

I'm doing both at the same time
I haven't played a game in months, help

Procrastination is the worst when you have no true deadline, best way to coutneract it is to start setting your own deadlines.

just came back from my jap classes actually

My gfur comics aren't going to translate themselves.

No clue but might as well try its a nothing to lose situation

Deadlines are a means of procrastination if they aren't extreme short-term.

Telling yourself that you'll do X within the next month means you'll never get it done, or you'll rush it on the last day. You have to adopt the mindset of daily motivation.

Every day, I wake up and do my reps. Why? Because that's what I do every morning, it's a habit I've been practicing for years at this point. If your deadlines aren't "finish my reps before noon", you're not going to finish them. And even with deadlines like that, you're going to have days when it hits noon and you're only halfway done, so you have to set new deadlines on the fly. It's okay to waste an hour, but it's not okay to not study today.

dilate

it's a jump start? He's somewhat amusing for a while, but won't keep you going for long. Look at the other resources mentioned ITT

That might work for you but setting deadlines is proven to help with procrastination, you set small goal deadlines for a short timeframe not "Do X within a month" its more like "Get through X chapter of Genki 1 in 3-4 days"

I'm contemplating about applying to the N3 exam. The sample exams didn't seem difficult but still I'm too spooked.

N3 is completely worthless, stop wasting money.

Since when JSLs are so kind in Yea Forums? Did /jp/ shitposters died? The one who tried to flex in every thread. Or he got caught be Yea Forums faggot who live in japan?

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Ehhhh, user, that's because you actually need to respect those deadlines, you know?

no matter how good at coding you get there's a poojeet out there who will do it better and for cheaper than you, its a shit career

It's still something.

このてめえの英語は殺してくれてる

We've always been kind, you just mistook people laughing at N4s as "flexing". Obviously you ignore every post in "Japanese" though, all that shit is going to do is teach you bad habits.

Classical Chinese or bust.
>And then you start reversing until you get to 不 which is read as ず.
That pinballing they came up with to make the whole thing make sense was really fascinating for me. They basically have a transpiler automaton drilled into them.

スニード

Save yourself the pain.
itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html

と フィード

>Obviously you ignore every post in "Japanese" though, all that shit is going to do is teach you bad habits.
Pretty much. Most people on here acquire passive language skills. Reading and listening. Wrting or talking are not a hot topic since they are not needed unless you want to play Japanese MMOs (who the fuck even plays MMOs in 2020?). Any game worth playing, anime/video worth watching, manga/novel/article worth reading don't require people to produce any sentences themselves. And so they drop it, much like most drop wrting symbols by hand after a certain point.

But it's good idea to write in Japanese for practice, right? This is something I would expect from /jp/ vn threads. Or anons will turn it into N1-N4 shitposting flexing fest?

Practicing without a native to correct you when you're wrong is pointless.

There are a handful of people at most that would be skilled enough to correct you, and they don't care enough to do that for newbs. You're much better off using an online exchange site like lang-8 with natives. That said, I found writing kinda useless, if you're not planning on joining some Japanese community then where is the use?

I've been playing games fully in Japanese for six years, but I've been getting kind of tired of it lately.

Of course it's better to not be a passive-only speaker of a language. However, the problem here is that anons are trying to translate 4chanese into Japanese with very limited knowledge and help from Google Translate.
Normal people don't speak like in the textbooks.
Neither do people online speak like normal people.
If you're at a level where you consume Japanese stuff on the daily, this is practically just as jarring as when a 12 year old ESL kid comes on Yea Forums and tries to tell us to stop being big meanies.
If you want to get feedback on the stuff you're writing, go on /int/.

やめれば

Isn't discussing something like VNs better with 2chan/5ch? I always imagine this as endgame. Like why user spend time with others JSLs in slow shitposting thread or worse attention whoring in EOP vn thread when he can discuss such games with japs? Language barrier? Or japs on their native board no so friendly and will notice your bad grammar pretty possible because that's how local imageboards works ?

やめれば...何?何を言おうとしている?

>game has russian text
>i am finally become defense of the ancients, two

ゲーム―をやめようと

>not learning Japanese and programming at the same time
You'd be surprised at how efficient you can be at learning if you really try

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They'll tell you to fuck off. Come on, mate. These places do not allow foreign IPs for a reason. If you get through, it's just one more way a salty Korean shitposter could get in as well.

あ、なるほど。たくさんプレイしてきた...

2chan is a lot closer to modern Yea Forums than you would expect, though there is a lot less trolling. I've heard they might be receptive to a gaijin on nijiura may but the fact they banned all overseas IPs makes you hesitant to try and join them. 5ch though is cool with westerners as far as I can tell, their discussions are slow but you are correct in that they're high quality usually.

The issue for a non-native probably is it's really hard to find the best place to discus stuff. Most people here know for instance Yea Forums is the best place to discuss VNs on the site, but there's only a thread every 3 or 4 days so you have to lurk to learn that. Honestly though it's a realistic goal, they don't mind foreigners as far as I can tell.

>12月
>日本に訪れ
>コミケに行く
>最高楽しかった
I wonder if they actually have greentexts like this, now that I write this.

And yet they're allowed to lurk and post here. I never understood the premise of blocking foreign IP dresses on specific JP websites. It kinda posses me off because I just want to enjoy and buy media.

>Valentine's Day card has Japanese text

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>I just want to enjoy and buy media.
But didn't you know, it's all the west's fault that things get copied and uploaded for pirating, and totally not china and corea or anything.

I solidarise with you.

Shut up faget.

Ban evasion and shit like that. At some point, they just realised that the grand majority of people coming to these niche Japanese communities from foreign IPs were nothing more than ban evading faggots and so they nuked them all.
Saved them a ton of sleepless nights at the cost of an occassional foreigner who says hi and buzzes off.

>an actual useful skill
the eop says, as he creams his pants over a trannyslation coming out for a 10+ year old vn

>5ch though is cool with westerners as far as I can tell

When they we 2ch, I think most board banned non-Nip IPs and sometime after becoming 5ch, they banned non-Nip IPs from even looking at the site.

Over the weekend there was a thread here about becoming a "cake fairy" or some shit, I think his translator messed or some shit. It was the most bizarre thread I've seen in a while. Let me see if I can find it.

Yep, here it is. And it's not even the thread I saw, so he's posted more than once
arch.b4k.co/v/thread/497984739

>and sometime after becoming 5ch, they banned non-Nip IPs from even looking at the site.
It's just yank scum they blocked from accessing the site.

>chair clattering

That's just a measure aaginst getting sued over GDPR. Try a 'Merrican proxy.

You can lurk on any Japanese site, it's just futaba where you can't post. The only thing is that US IPs are blocked from 5ch still despite jim watkins saying it was temporary, but it's easy to get around with a proxy.

Also despite popular belief, foreign IPs are banned from futaba most likely because of Koreans. A lot of their memes come from stupid things koreans do like unironically false flagging as Japanese and saying Japan is going to be destroyed.

It's only the US that is blocked, despite Jim being an american himself. I don't know much of him myself but he's considered an asshole by most who know him.

You're thinking of something else. Futaba put up a notice saying the site is no longer open for viewing to Europeans due to the GDPR, but afaik they didn't actually block access.

I live in America.

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>grammar is a simple SOV with a handful of irregularity
>pronunciation is also simple and the spoken language of natives are very slow
>every word comes with the easy-recognizing class markers at its head and tail
>kanji is only 2000 characters in number as a daily use and even easier than spelling in English

Why aren't you fluent in Japanese yet?

nice

>grammar is a simple

You haven't gotten far enough yet.

Because I don't have the self control to study when I'm at home, and when I'm on my lunch break at my office job, I'm too busy browsing Yea Forums instead of studying.
I'd say you haven't gotten far enough.

Katakana was a mistake.

Glad I’m Canadian kek

this

Why is this whole fucking string in katakana? Makes it a pain in the dick to read.
>シアターデイ
Holy fuck just put 土曜 or 土曜日, or even (土) like so many other places.

I've been at this for eight years. Grammar seems real simple at the start, books always make things seem simple, but when you delve into more complex things than flavor of the season anime and Final Fantasy, you start to encounter weirder grammar.

You can still access 2ch subdomains, fun fact
agree.2ch.net/

userくん...

What? It's Idol Master shit which I'm not interested in, so no doubt I'm not going to know exactly where the words cut off.

Avoid Twitter and any place where real Japanese people talk if you don't want to get a puncture in your ego.

Russian IPs were blocked even from visiting but now it's ok

Subhumans can't read this 虪

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>2nd quote
I've been to Japan before. They probably talked in more simpler terms since I'm still new but I understood the grammar they used a lot more than the words themselves. Like when someone was telling me where/when to go somewhere or some shit.

I always try to learn Japanese but I always procrastinate and end up forgetting everything.

You could use that to learn how to draw instead and produce your own content.

It's シアター・デイズ. Saturday would be サタデイ or something.

speaking about legibility
what fonts do people use?

>Finished all sorts of anki decks
>Don't have the motivation to read a manga
Fuck, why am I like this? できないですよ

blocks your path

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It's easier to read if you squint

Any games you guys recomend to practice Japanese? I started a few weeks ago and I think a some game would cool for practice.

Anything besides vns because I am not into that.

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Is that thing after the first u supposed to be a ra or a chi?

>a few weeks ago
You started a few weeks ago and you already want to play games?!

Depends on your level.
You can start with kiddie JRPG like Pokemon and Yokai Watch and play more shonen-y ones the better you get.

Might as well get some references now to compare what I know now just for measure.
I guess the first Pokémon games might be a decent choice. I can even emulate them on my phone.

Not that I know at all what it says but I feel like the next bunch of syllables would dictate what it's supposed to be through translation
do ちさある or らさある translate to anything?
if they both mean something then I have no idea
or I could just be looking at the whole thing wrong and need to learn more

Why would they not use kanji, what the FUCK. Imagine if somebody typed english without any spaces.
All I can read out of this is the つかえ (使え) in the first bubble, but everything else is just a blob of shit.

I searched it. It's a ra

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youcanreadthisright?youclearlyjustdontknowenoughjapaneseyet

This is an excellent shitpost

It's easy anons, you should learn it.

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>japanese
>dead language

Haha, quality bait post friend

More like a deadly language, amirite?

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>tfw want to learn Japanese but anons are vey mean and discouraging and it makes me scared

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Anki is boring, how do start learning kanjis without it?

read a lot

download this and read it you weak bitch
mega.nz/#!nUJSxIRY!1sGcVZOSQpsB5SgcsTguqoSupvBFt2uybBGwOXNPZX8
and also look through this itazuraneko.neocities.org/#learn
if you enjoy it and are making progress then fucking double down on that and ignore the niggers on an anonymous latvian basket weaving forum
just do it, pussy

Read the literature, but anki is boring because it works.

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Damn, thanks for that website. Learned something immediately in the grammar section. Saving this to go through it more indepth later.

>gurimasu
Original million live game on GREE
>mirimasu
Million live
>mirishita
Theater days shortening
>sure
thread
>koro-chan
Roko-chan misspelled

I use a 隷書体 font in my browser because I really like the look.

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>pronunciation is also simple
There's nuances in the pronunciation that aren't shown in the writing at all.

>TFW started learning Japanese

Feels good. I'm having fun, but only on the 3rd lesson out of like 150 lessons or some shit. I keep a notebook and take notes and practice hiragana in it as well. I wanted to learn Japanese years and years ago, but never bothered. Kind of feels nice doing something productive instead of masturbating, playing video games, sleeping, and shitposting.

Now if I could just motivate myself to lose weight I'd be unstoppable.

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Is learning to read or to hear harder? I want to listen to J-Rock and actually understand it for once.

Difficulty from easiest to hardest:
>listening (easiest)
>reading
>typing
>writing (hardest)

How do you not know hiragana

This is misleading. There are, as far as Jisho is concerned, only of these Kanji actually in circulation. It's a huge meme, and you only get taught the kanji for big, fat/thick and dog. It's not even close to the most confusing Kanji to learn and I don't think you'll learn the others. I could be wrong, but I can't find them, and that was when I was trying to scare someone who was trying to learn Japanese for laughs. You want to see some fuckery then wait until you start getting to the real difficult shit that's compact and just looks like squiggles and doesn't have a comprehensive meaning behind the radicals that allow you to dissect and memorize what it actually means. Even the Japanese hate Kanji, so I don't get why they don't just come up with their own, more distinct Kanji for words instead of using the really shit ones that look alike.

>english speaker can't into word accentuation
heh, and you guys made fun of spics. Guess who is laughing now 馬鹿

I mean I can read each individual letter but I can't derive anything from them, except the thing I mentioned.

>over 5000 different symbols with different combinations
What do you think?

Not sure why you think I'm an English native but whatever. And I'm not talking about pitch accent either.
I'm talking about things like Vowel Devoicing, and things like the proper pronunciation of う, or き having a different K sound than か, or は ひ and ふ all having different consonant sounds in them.

A lot of /djt/ threads lately.

I have an easier time reading manga than listening in the equivalent anime
thank goodness for J-subs

>watch anime
>can afford to not look at the subtitles for a few seconds and actually enjoy the animation
progress

>2000 similar to each other symbols and clear combinations

It holds the sound to elongate it.

I'm a failure of a human being and kinda want to become a firmware engineer. How do? What do you even do.My impression is C or C++.

We've had them for ages, you just weren't paying attention before.

Which word? The one that came before?

I have an easier time reading than I do listening.
I can watch a whole japanese movie with japanese subtitles, but take the subs away and I'm struggling. It got better while I was there a few years ago though, but you constantly need to hear it in daily life to seriously improve that. Or just do hardcore listening everyday.

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Dies Irae

>watch a kids cartoon with kana for subtitles
>can barely understand what it says
>watch a crime drama with kanji for subtitles
>can follow along somewhat
Kanji makes things so much easier

The character before yes. ばー would be baa.

Yeah.
Makes me laugh when people who don't study say nonsense like removing kanji would make the language easier.

Oh I see. I was dumb and thought it was like the small tsu. That makes more sense

I used to be one of those people but then eventually understood why Kanji is a necessity.

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...can't they just add spaces like normal people though?

Spaces doesn't really make a difference.
Study the language long enough and you'll naturally know when a clause ends, where a particle is, where a word is, etc.

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youdonthavettohavespacestounderstandwhatpeoplearesayingthough

I understand how kanjis are useful. But they could literally be replaced by spaces like other languages do. Let's not lie here

Stop thinking and accept the cultural standard

""Translated"" memes have absolutely no right making me laugh as much as they do

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Why do you need spaces so badly? The particles should be enough to indicate that

Literally what is the point of that though?
透明な床なんて vs 透明 な 床 なんて

You already know what's what. Why should there be a space and how would that make things easier?

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I don't follow. The Japanese Language don't need to space to make things a lot more understandable. It's optional, but not a necessity. The only time you see spaces in that language is on social media. You won't see it on official documents and other forms that has the text.

>replace Kanji with spaces
You want to replace a word with a space?

>Being discouraged
>Not quadrupling down solely to prove them wrong
Good thing I'm fueled by spite, because those shitposters made it real easy to stay motivated.

Fucking localization when?

I'm saying reading kana alone wouldn't be a problem if spaces existed, not that I need kanjis and spaces at the same time

Never, you utter brainlet. What, just because you're getting the new Sakura Wars in a few months, you think anyone else is dumb enough to translate dating sims?

Might want to revisit your English lessons in between those Japanese ones, anons.

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But nobody uses just kana alone unless it's a child's book or something, in which case spaces would be used.

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Are you insane? Reading Japanese with nothing but Kana makes things a lot more troublesome than it's worth due to homophones. That's why is triggering. Adding spaces will not change a thing. We need context to understand what is going on.

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i have no idea how anyone who actually understands the japanese language could argue against kanji. they make the language much easier to understand, since it would be way too confusing otherwise with all the homophones, plus being able to infer what a word means just based on the kanji its written with is very convenient. case in point, im studying korean right now and the lack of kanji makes that language harder, not easier. besides, they STILL have to occasionally tell you what kanji the word is written with, and they still have to learn them at school over there.

Can someone explain the difference between "wa" and "ga" to me, like I get it, but at the same time I don't. So like for example you could say

Tanaka-san desu ka

and then he says

iie, karega Tanaka-san desu

Jesus Christ, Onsokumaru, we're talking about a hypothetical situation where kanji doesn't exist. You could just use spaces and be done with it. I know that's not what happens in real life
wow, I guess Japs all have kanji subtitles floating around when they talk to each other then

>seriously learning nipponese for your dumbass cartoons and video games

Please tell me you guys are actually planning to become tutors or some less gay shite

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From what I understand, it's the difference between saying something like "THE thing" (は) and "the thing" (が). But please wait for other responses because this shit still still confusing.

At first it was for my dumb games and anime. But then I went to Japan, so now my goal is to live there, and I'm going to need to learn Japanese if I want to be anything more than "that retarded foreigner that can't even speak our language"

How I've seen the difference explained is that for nouns and adjectives, は is like the default thing you'd use when you bring things up for the first time and just in general, while が is more for clarifying/emphasis.
And for verbs it's the other way around: が is the default, and は is for emphasis.

In your example, the answer uses が because you've already brought up the "Tanaka-san" in the previous sentence and the other person is pointing to someone else and saying "That dude over there is Tanaka-san, not me"

My girl is Japanese, and I like it better here than any western shithole plus I wanna play retro games

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A while ago my PC broke down for like a month and a half and me bored out of my mind decided to get an app to "learn" nihongo to pass the time. I got decently into learning hira/kata and some small grammar from it. Even made a little handwritten sheet with all the characters.
Then I got my PC back, realized I don't even watch anime or any japanese media outside of occasionally seeing japanese things here and slowly forgot almost all of it. Despite honest to everything thinking learning the language would be really cool I still struggle to think of practical purposes I could use it for afterwards. I'm such a lazy little shit.

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you'll just get it after a while

>being a weak ironic weeb who can't even TRY to learn a language
Never gonna make it

Ga is a logical particle. Wa is a non-logical particle.
Ga marks the actor, Wa marks the topic.
Changing Wa's place in a sentence will not change what the sentence actually means, just the focus of it.
私はりんごを食べた
Regarding the topic (は) of me, I (this is where the implicit が would go, indicating me as the actor that does the verb) ate an apple (which is marked by を and thus the noun directly affected by the eating).
私がりんごは食べた
Regarding the topic (は) of the apple (which is implicitly the noun affected by the verb), I ate it. (I am still the actor but the focus is now on the apple rather than I who ate it).
The meaning of both sentences is the same, the focus is not. は marks the topic of interest but does not affect the actual structure of the sentence. But from what I've seen, where は is found, the actual particle seems to be left implicit most of the time, like in the example. You can still infer what is what.

Thanks lol

The person I'm learning from says that Japanese interchange them and they won't really be able to tell you why one sounds better than the other. I know "ga" is used for emphasis but that's just one way to use it, like if you want emphasis something in a sentence. He does say that even intermediate and advanced speakers sometime struggle with it.

Makes sense. I remember reading an user that taught English and one of his students said "Green Big Tree" instead of "Big Green Tree", he corrected her, but then she asked why and he didn't know.

Entertainment is a good enough reason for me. I already make money by other means.

I've been telling myself that for the past year or so, and all I do is maybe study a few words here and there. At most I'm just slowing down the bleeding of forgetting the language. I already lived in Japan, and did everything I wanted to do with the language, so at this point it's difficult to motivate myself to keep it. Sometimes I wonder if I should just try a new language out just for fun. Something new. I mean it sucks to lose it, but I'm not really keeping it around for any special reason, other than to say "hey, I know some Japanese, real fuckin neato".

>they won't really be able to tell you why one sounds better than the other
That is a common thing among native speakers of any language because they can tell what's correct or isn't just by it sounding good to them or being off.
btw, I tried searching for it and this is probably where I have my explanation from.
alc.co.jp/jpn/article/faq/03/19.html

wa and ga are often used as topic particles. in that sentence, Ga is used to confirm something to the person that asked a question, which is the topic, aka Tanaka-san

It's nothing to get a headache over since japs barely use both particles anyways.

youtube.com/watch?v=pSvH9vH60Ig&list=PLg9uYxuZf8x_A-vcqqyOFZu06WlhnypWj&index=1
Watch lessons 1 through 3, they really helped me a lot in understanding the difference. If you don't like the voice do like I did and just mute and use the subtitles.

Yes, in a different universe where kanji doesn't exist, spaces would be useful. But in this timeline, kanji does exist. But as it stands, it doesn't make a difference. Once you study, then you naturally know where things begin and end.

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>wow, I guess Japs all have kanji subtitles floating around when they talk to each other then

Technically they do since they can understand context like we can in our native language with homophones.

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Do you see us using kanji when we write though?

ITT
>Dude Japanese doesn't follow the rules English does. Thats dumb, how am I supposed to understand it
By learning it ya goof

No, but we also only use 26 letters for our entire writing system.

And it works fine

Different languages do indeed work differently.

>one language uses 5000+ symbols
>the other invents spaces and accomplishes the same thing
Some languages are better than others

Then it's our duty to protect the weaker languages from the encroaches of English, because globalization is cancer. Sometimes that means learning Japanese.

A common technique when a homophone problem occurs where one of the people doesn't get which word was meant is to clarify said word by describing one of its characters.
For example 回答 vs 解答 you easily explain by saying that it's the かい from 回転 or the かい from 解決, depending on which word you meant by かいとう.

Correct them at least, fag.

>gradually getting through Tae Kim
>Anki deck completion steadily going up
>able to pick out more and more Japanese in media
Why didn't I start sooner? This is one of the best choices I've ever made, if only for nice the progress feels.

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Does this girl have lewds?

Keep doing, bro.
You'll get your moon coder badge soon.

the last DJT thread we had on Yea Forums got raided by resetera trannies

What?

Donald J. Trump general. Rethuglicans still seething they got blown the fuck out when we called out their retarded /pol/ thread.

日本語力が上がるのが気分がいいだけど重量挙げが上がるの方がいいだよ

I can't learn Japanese because I'm too busy wagecucking

I can't learn Japanese because I'm too busy sleeping and fapping to anime girls

>he's not using his coomer powers to learn Japanese from untranslated doujins and JAVs

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>composite cables
Whats he playing?

I assume the famicom goes through a capture card which also acts as a passthrough with composite out.

Start playing with Arduinos, move up to ARM microcontrollers, and learn some digital electronics too

A Famicom

How do japs type? i mean they have tons of symbols and keyboards are not that big

Hey, I listen to so much Japanese that I get a faint blur of what is being said now.

They write in Hiragana and the phone does the rest. Have you never seen auto-correct before?

Does this help you when you're learning Japanese? Because this happens to me too. I can understand what they're saying like 1/3 of the time despite not knowing shit. I'm sure it's at least helpful, right?

>mfw just finished all of Genki after two years
I still don't FUCKING know kanjis!

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Their keyboards type on hiragana or katakana and the PC auto-corrects it to the kanji. I'm just guessing.

It is helpful, although the best way to learn any language is total immersion. That would mean going to Japan itself for an extended period.

You type the hiragana (either with direct input or in English) and press space until you get the thing you want, then the return key to select it.
For example, typing じょしこうせい and pressing space looks like this.

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You just type the word in Hiragana and it changes to the Kanji, so ねこ becomes 猫

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Does this mean female student?

Highschool student, yes. For students in general you don't need the 高.

Sorry it's 4am here. Student is 学生.

genki is fucking garbo

because it's deliberately mocking the tohoku dialect which sounds unintelligible to other japanese speakers
not using kanji is the least of that image's problems if you look closely

>tfw can read Yotsuba/Conan/other relatively easy manga with almost no need for a dictionary
I'm finally making it bros

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>japanese game has german spells
literally wtf am I casting

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nice going user, I just started memorizing the hiragana but I already feel like I'm making progress

recommend me better alternatives

that's baby tier
then you get shit like
コンセント
for a fucking electrical outlet
or this gem
クリソツ
colloquial for spitting image of something, I can't even begin to pinpoint the roots of it, it doesn't even feel like 和製英語

core6000.neocities.org/dojg/
core6000.neocities.org/hjgp/
8020japanese.com/wa-vs-ga/

>クリソツ
>colloquial for spitting image of something, I can't even begin to pinpoint the roots of it, it doesn't even feel like 和製英語
sounds like そっくり just butchered to fuck

you meme but I know a surprising amount of sex related words now thanks to exactly that

I just tried to google it and apparently it is a 倒語 (inverted word) of そっくり, which I didn't even know was a thing linguistically but apparently happens in other languages too, with そっ just becoming そつ thanks to the inversion
looking at the examples for more 倒語 I sincerely fucking hope I don't see any again

>reliably recall the meaning of a kanji
>never, EVER register not even one of the pronunciations
How do you do it?

>TFW just started learning Japanese
>Only 100 hirigana characters

I've only learned like 30 of them, but holy shit a lot of them I can't even recognize. I figured it probably isn't even hard to memorize all of them, and I guess once you memorize all of them then you can at least start making out words or what things say when reading it on the internet. Though I'm not sure how much shit is written in hirigana. Seems like everything uses kanji and katakana.

I'll feel proud of myself when I can look at hirigana and know what it says or at least pronounce it. What sucks is hirigana is like babby tier. Once I start learning katakana and kanji I'll probably want to rip my hair out.

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Learning hiragana isn't even baby tier. It's "you haven't even started" tier.

Probably explains why they start you off with hirigana first, makes sense. I literally just started like a few days ago. Still, it feels good to make progress I guess. If you master hirigana or at least start to recognize all the characters then that shows progress. Can't deny that.

learning every pronounciation of a kanji is a waste of time. don't bother with it

Not every, ANY. I can't register a single sound

an input system which has a henkan key (possibly just the space bar on a PC keyboard), type the kana and it becomes kanji, keep pressing until the right one
the input system will also change roomaji to kana as you type

gairaigo can be tricky even when it's not some scrambled shit like ensuto

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The secret is that you get exponentially better at these things, user. It took me like a week to learn hiragana and then I did kana in half an hour. It's like taking uni tests. You cry at first and then it's just another normal aspect of your life and your brain gets accostumed to it

the kana is piss easy to learn as long as you write each one down 50 fucking times.
however you won't be able to read shit without kanji so don't get too excited, cuz you haven't even started
>Though I'm not sure how much shit is written in hirigana
hiragana is primarily a grammar tool and katakana is for all kinds of random shit. actual words are always in kanji
>Once I start learning katakana and kanji I'll probably want to rip my hair out
katakana isn't hard. it only gets annoying when you're reading handwritten shit where シ and ツ can look the exact same but you make that up for with context

learning kanji pronounciation at all is a waste of time since it's practically useless

How the fuck do you listen to Japanese and associate kanji then

you don't

The secret is to start writing them down at least a hundred times each. That's how the kids learn it.
But it's even more important if you want to get past grade 6 or so kanji, if you don't know how to write the kanji (in proper stroke order please!) then they'll all start looking the same once you get to grade 6.

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learning radicals can help too

Did you even learn a language

don't listen to the other user
they're acquired as you learn vocab words, you'll learn the kanji for the word and its pronunciation and gradually learn it's variety of pronunciations.
for instance in a classroom setting you'll learn
行(い)く as the only pronunciation for that kanji for the first year or so, then you'll acquire new pronunciations like 行(おこな)う and
行(ぎょう)事 as you learn said vocab

suggest me some beginner tier manga bros. I am going through Yotsubato now. What should be my next one?

I'm a 27 year old fat American white weeb, and I can tell you my hirigana looks like shit. I practice writing them, but I know some look better than others when I write them. The learning tool I'm using shows stroke order and I try to follow that, but it certainly isn't super accurate/fancy and shit. My english handwriting isn't even that great.

I think that I'll just kill myself

I did ~2000 words 3 years ago, took a break for a while, did ~500 words 1 year ago, then stopped

How should I try to get back into it? I don't remember much but I really don't need to learn how to count to ten agian

I don't think that matters, user. It's just to retain the kanji. You're never gonna need handwriting in this day and age

>they're acquired as you learn vocab words
that's what I meant. guess I worded it shitty

katakana should be fucking removed
it's not necessary
fuck this gookshit

Really I'd just like to eventually learn to recognize words in anime without subtitles, and maybe be able to speak Japanese or have conversations in Japanese. It's just a hobby for me if anything. I think it'd be kind of neat to be able to watch anime without subtitles and understand what they're saying, or listen to japanese music and understand the lyrics. Being able to translate could land you a decent job I guess, or transcription stuff.

スケッチブック is bretty good for starters.

shit meant to reply for this

it's not that hard for most kanji, though there are a few that have a LOT of readings like 生 but that's a bit of an exception
the enormous irony is katakana were traditionally seen as the piss easy kana that were clear to read. They were used in military documents for instance and I recall one of my Japanese teachers said her grandmother, who was otherwise illiterate, could write her name in katakana

im going to japan soon so im cramming in hira/ kata just so i wont be completely lost
cant wait to see all my favorite vidya shops

Here’s my advice, don’t go to any video game stores they’re overpriced

At what point should I consider using something like HelloTalk?
I finished the basic grammar part of tae kim and know about 600 words.

That'll be $49.99 + tip.

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What the fuck is that

Looks like poor translation for Tales of Berseria, though I don't remember that skit/scene, of course I didn't 100% the game or do everything in the game. Find it hard to believe that horrible translation made it into the game and nobody caught it on the development team.

that's not an official translation r-right?
if so, what company did they hire for pennies on the dollar?

Why is fetish translated as フエチ

I'm entirely convinced japanese as a language only serves the practical purpose of keeping their culture as tightly sealed and inaccessible as possible. There is no other explanation. I for one would dread a world where every day weeb and SoCal social justice drone with a phone could invade their turf willy nilly without so much as a language barrier. And despite english becoming more standardized all over the world each day, it also happens to be the most used language for social cancer and movements.
Good on them I guess, it takes an iron will to stick to a language system with thousands of unnecessary proprietary characters, nuances, nonsensical runes and a million billion fucking kanji, which could all more or less be replicated with the 27 characters we know, just to keep the filthy gaijin at bay from invading their culture. They will simply not allow that without putting up a hell of a fucking fight of having to learn their bullshit tongue first.

cure dolly is fucking based

Beseria is a mess and they censored a few English scenes too. Didn't feel bad about pirating that one at all.
legendsoflocalization.com/this-be-bad-translation-08-tales-of-berseria/

probably the japanese love of shortening words kicked in

>it's real
fucking christ
someone got paid for that?
>goose I'm for gruesome

100% an ESL that just put everything into Babelfish Translator (for I think even Google TL is better than that) and just pasted what came out. Bamco likes to rush things too so they probably didn't even QC it.