League is massive and its player count is growing in the millions

>League is massive and its player count is growing in the millions

>Meanwhile Dota...

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got a source for the LOL player count? genuinely curious, since riot keeps those numbers private

as long as theres 9 people in queue at all times when i'm trying to find a game we're fine

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Good

>Meanwhile riot's getting sued out of their ass

Good, dota Is full of fucking peruvians and spanish speakers that refuse to speak any language but their own.

Fuck them
Fuck Dota

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That's what happens when you try and copy both fucking HoTS and LoL. Deserved.

explain this dotards

good dota got too cocky

EU west is an absolute hellhole, if you don't get spics, you get ruskies, they're all shit

None of that matters when it comes to retaining casuals. They don't patch the game enough, not enough events/free ways to earn cosmetics, like 2 heroes per year max. The hero reworks are fairly lazy and mostly a miss.

It's ancient, of course players are moving on. Entire genres have been invented since 2014

meanwhile every fucking game i play is filled with smurfs

Is Zoe a yordle?

This is what happens when you shit out patches that let ceb win multiple TIs

If you're still playing LoL any time within the last 5-8 years, I have bad news for you.

>None of that matters when it comes to retaining casuals.

They aren't retaining the core, established players either because the game just isn't what they fell in love with.

Other variables such as the playerbase getting older and not having time for 30-60 minutes as soon as you hit "accept" are of course a factor as well, as is the "MOBA-craze" that had died down drastically. But you can't ignore that the people who loved what DOTA was but not what it is now have left the game in droves and simply won't come back.

>Entire genres have been invented since 2014
like what? other than Battle Royale?

Strand Genre (Death Stranding), Rhythm-Action (Sekiro), Meta-reality (Baba is You), Kino (Celeste), the list goes on.

Lol is not a good game but at the least its fun once in a while as its more active and faster to play.

Dota feels like they took all the lest fun elements of the genre and cranked it up to 11.

I quit the shit game years ago but even I know shits popular m8. The entire break room at my university plays it with few playing other games like OW/Apex Cope dotafag

Very good, user.

Valve made everything in their power to destroy DotA...

This makes me both mad and sad at the same time.

Most games don't retain the same audience from 9 years ago, and Dota is even older than that. The whole idea is replacing old players with new players, which League does with the Chinese playerbase all the time. Dota can't

>better skins
>more varied playstyles
>better balance
Why aren't you playing this instead?

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How can dotatards even compete?

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Every single day, league gains 2 trillion new users everytime DoTA loses one install. Sometimes, if you listen closely, you can hear the horrible screeching of the regret filled souls of the damned who spent one second of play time in DoTA and wished they had played league for all of eternity instead. League is so popular and loved by every single human being on planet Earth that there is an active effort by space and aeronautics institutions around the world to carve the league of legends logo into the face of every celestial body in the known universe. Just the other day, we were visited by extra terrestrial life who wished to pay homage to the infinite glory that league and offer themselves up as a slave race to anyone who plays. Did I mention they are hot space babes too? Truly, league of legends as made famous by riot games, peace be upon them, is the only video game that really exists in our 3-dimensional perception of reality. When I die, I plan to donate ally personal assets to riot games, including my body, so that my skull may be blessed in being used as a coozie at riot hq.

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Dota died because it has no shortstacks like LoL.

>5 game winstreak according to the winstreak counter
>don't say a single word other than "ggwp" after we win
>on my 6th game I try to say "ggwp" after we are destroying the enemy ancient
>"You have too low of a behavior score. Your communication privileges have been revoked."

a mute ban for not saying a single word when I ever play, and after a 5 game winstreak when my teammates almost certainly would have no reason to report me.

The report system killed Dota 2 and you can't convince me otherwise.

>thinking league of babbies is any better

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I find that hard to believe. I'm a friendly support player but I use harsh words when needed and my behavior score is 10k.
You must be either lying or feeding relentlessly every game, or you're a techies main.

>HoTS dead
>Dota2 dying
>no new MOBA coming even close to being alive
Is the end finally here?

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LoL has waifus and panders to waifufags
Dota 2 has literally ZERO waifus to begin with

A real wonder why Dota 2 died, huh...

that's what they get for trying to make dota like league. I quit league in 2013 and dota in 2016, I hope both games (and the genre as a whole) dies

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I want kratos to punch my balls as I cum

>OMFG WHY WAS I BANNED FOR SAYING NIGGERS FREEDUMB OF SPEATCH

>Username
Yeah I bet that is a serious account that never trolled no one, he a good boy, needs mo RP for Dem skins

Game got better boomer
Get over it

quit doturd about 4 years ago i think, sank a total of 4-5k hours into it.
cosmetics bullshit and constant fotm meta changes did it for me, on top of the cancerous community that valve refused to address with region lock.

dont think they care though, for a game that was supported by a skeleton crew they raked in millions, will probably move on to the next big money maker soon if they havent already

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>a single dotard player can earn 2 million dollars in the biggest tournament every year if they win

>meanwhile any other "esport"...

Yeah this is bullshit. I call people retarded every game for 2k hours and I’ve been muted once and only got low prio due to abandoning

It's pointless dotalets and their sunken cost fallacy beliefs will stay delusional for all eternity.

I've been permbanned on 4 accounts for calling people retards or shitters repeatedly and generally explaining to them ingame why they cost us the game.

maybe you faggots should stay on your own server
why would i want to learn the language of such inconsiderate dickheads

They added soft region lock like 3 years ago, meaning you only get people close to you(most likely from your country) and can play against either people from your country or against a full peruvian team.

¿español? xD

Ah yes, ofcourse, more players means better game :)

Lol is for people that are too retarded to be good at DotA, hence it has more players, stop pretending :))

>LeL vs Dotard wars
name one (1) thing that's more cringe.

>“Every day we see about eight million peak concurrent players in League,” Riot says in its announcement. That number covers LoL players across all Riot, Tencent, and Garena regions, and specifically accounts for the month of August – so if you though League was slowing down a decade after launch, it seems that’s not the case.

>Riot says this is “bigger than the top ten games on Steam combined,” and while that kind of statement seems like hyperbole, it’s actually an extreme lowball. The daily peaks for Steam’s current top ten games total around 2.2 million users, and while Steam’s overall user count peaks at around 15 million daily, only about four million players in total are in-game on any given day, as SteamDB shows.

>Fortnite player count is still beyond League at 10.8 million concurrent players, but Epic’s battle royale is available across PCs, consoles, and mobile devices. Minecraft player count is the biggest in the world by many metrics, but we don’t know what the concurrent user count looks like.

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Still play this alot with a friend. Its still plenty fun my only real issue is I dont remeber the last time my entire team was American let alone both teams. Peruvians im used to but holy shit im playin with alot of chinks these days and im on US east for fucks sake.

this may work in the US but not in europe, soft region lock still means you're still getting a bunch of CIS idiots thanks to the relatively smaller distances here in europe.
they should've provided an option for players in a specific region to queue for games in that region only and an opt-in to queue in a common continental pool if you wish.
i for one sure as fuck know i'd never opt to play with CIS idiots but at higher ranks it would've been necessary

>b-b-but league is dying harder!

Damn dotards. Dying the way you lived, obsessing with league.

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After valve refused to do diretide ever again it went only downwards.
Instead of letting the game grow they tried to squeeze out every cent. Now the game is nothing but an online marketplace with casino elements. Game itself has turned to absolute shit with that talents patch.

popularity will never be an argument for quality. Dota is still more fun and interesting

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Ok, niggers. Tell me why the fuck are you still playing MOBAs? I stopped playing LoL after season 2 and I firmly believe that this genre next to BR has and is ruining vidya.

>valve pair your with your own sub-human kind
>get mad
Its the best solution, at least one group can get benefits from the region lock while all the subhumans stay the same, while not having region lock at all means everyone still get fucked.

>Fun
>Interesting
Non arguments.

>popularity will never be an argument for quality.
That's not the argument. It's about which one is thriving and which one is dying. Dota 2 is clearly dying and LoL is a far more enjoyable game despite it being casual.

>sued out of their ass
Riot is Microsoft tier at this point. They could be forced to pay a billion dollars by the judge and that would be pennies to them

This.
My indie game I made by myself has 0 players. Therefore, it's the most hardcore skill based game in the world since nobody is capable of playing it, therefore it's the best. I also host a tournament every year with a $500,000,000,000 first prize, and we all know the game with the biggest prize pool is automatically the best. But since I'm the only one who enters I win it every time (I just haven't cashed my own checks to myself yet).

Feels good to be the my game masterrace.

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>same lol shill posting for the past 2 years
hope they paying you well, considering riot makes a lot of money

>complex game in genre is less popular than easier one
I'll never understand why people find this surprising, its the case for every genre.
Cod is more popular than counterstrike, wow is more popular than ff14. In general people will play what is easy to pick up and do, its the same reason why pokemon is the most popular franchise in the world

Thanks for remind me Yea Forums is full of psychos who don't think the ultimate goal of a videogame is to have fun

Im glad i keep coming less and less to this shithole

they had a couple but it's like they deliberately made them digusting looking, at least they reworked drow to not look like an ugly nigger anymore but it's too little too late

7.00 has been fixed right guize?

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>... the average big League streamer makes that amount every 3 months due to the massive viewerbase they and by extension LoL has on Twitch

Haven't seen cope this hard in awhile

>basing the quality of a game on how much you want to have sex with the cartoon characters instead of the game mechanics
a frightful time to exist

I wonder how much tyler made when he got masters with jungle, he had like 60k viewers the whole time

>Im glad i keep coming less and less to this shithole
Are you talking about dota?

OP proves that quite the opposite is happening.

>the average
you mean just the same faggot since no one knows a shit about anyone else

Fun is one thing.
But using "fun" as an argument is bullshit because this is something you cannot measure, it's purely subjective phenomenon.
You can take proper arguments, combine them and decide it for yourself if the game is fun or not but you can't just use fun as an argument.
It's like saying burger is tasty. This days nothing about the taste or contents of burger

if a game doesn't have hot chicks then it's not worth playing

What?

low mechanical complexity and personal performance doesn't matter as much as teamwork at all

you know porn exists right? like if you want to jerk off you can without making every part of your life about it

Are LoL players ironic gamers? Is there a single person who plays ASSFAGGOTS, specifically league, that doesn't have aids?

>guize
How old are you grandpa

>mind control

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I’ve always just assumed all assfaggots are dead because I’ve come to care so little about them beyond porn that any time I see anything about them my brain basically filters it instantly. Assfaggots are white noise for me except when beating my dick to yordle porn.

This. Valve's steadfast refusal to implement any sort of region locking or language filter, to say nothing of its awful matchmaking system, make me anxiously await the day the game finally crashes

>hey Praxiteles why are you making that sculpture you know that porn exists right?
funny how you're the type of retards that mock modern art saying it's ugly stupid shit while praising classical art when classical art was attractive human bodies and then start whining about art that depicts attractive human bodies today and post stupid ugly shit like wojaks or pepes

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>lol: every single discussion is about waifus, being banned, or some shill video
>dota: every single discussion is about it being dead , foreigners, or muh old days

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boy thats a lot of assumptions to make over someone telling you not to base your entire life over what you want to masturbate too

whatever, just post your wojak retard

Has the same issue as OW where the game is balanced around healers and the game falls apart around them.

sorry bud I don't have any wojaks to give you, maybe you will come to realize that everything in your life doesn't have to be dictated by your libido

I can just imagine you going back in time and yelling "coomer! coomer!" at leonardo da vinci

Are there any other games where matches can take up to two hours long? Dota is nowhere near entertaining enough to justify how long a match is. Especially when the majority of the gameplay comes down to fucking last hitting

Seeing this image and that fuckin ice machine brought me back the days in late teens when I was a bus boy and gave me anxiety. Please never post it again.

yeah because when people go to a museum or gallery they base what paintings they will view on how many good looking girls are in them; the phrase I won't play a game because it doesn't have waifu's seems to come up a lot more than I wont look at a sculpture if it isn't of a woman. stop acting like a teenager that just hit puberty

stop acting like a discord tranny faggot from reddit, there's nothing wrong with liking attractive women

Ugly waifus and a glut of beaners will do that

>2016

good. valves lazy ass needs a wake up call and the last big update ruined everythibg dota about dota. fuck dota

>there's nothing wrong with liking attractive women

when did I say there was? I said don't base everything in your life around sex like a teenager. If you want to rub one out then go rub one out but don't try to pretend you are on an ivory tower defending artistic merit because you pick what video games you play based on how much you want to fuck the goddamn yordles

I am in an ivory tower defending artistic merit compared to you brainless discord tranny

do you have any more boogeymen to call me because you're not willing to act like an adult? you already used reddit discord and tranny, casual is a little out of date but given what game you're defending that one probably would be a bit ironic.

you keep using the "ur a kid" card, I'm gonna keep using the "ur a tranny" card, if you're not willing to have an honest discussion neither will I
faggot tranny

as someone with +1k hours in both, I haven't touched dota in a while and won't even come back.
Too much has changed and there's tons of random bull shit in dota.
It's also really fucking slow and no way to FF if you get stuck in a losing game due to an AFKer or a feeder. You can only leave urself and then you get low prio where ur stuck with all the trolls.

>not willing to have have an honest discussion
>JERKING OFF TO YORDLES IS HIGH ART

dota is better than league. No LoL player can deny.

>I DISAGREE SO YOU'RE A KID
okay tranny

Well no it's yours actually

>NO MOM THIS PICTURE OF POPPY GETTING FUCKED IN THE ASS IS THE SAME AS THE MONA LISA YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND

I don't think poppy gets fucked in the ass in the game, and she looks pretty similar to mona lisa to be fair

I can't tell if you're parody or not so im just going to thank you for the laughs and be on my way. have a nice night masturbating to a video game

>What's funny is Dota changed everything from its gameplay to its map to mechanics to art design to monetization in order to get the casual audience
Yeah. What's especially funny is that if they wanted to be more approachable by casuals and new players, they needed to fight the (unjustified) reputation Dota has for being hard to play and requiring hundreds of hours to start having fun.

They instead decided to turn it into an abomination, killing off player retention in the process. That's irony for you.

>7.00 was bad but they fixed it all in 7.01 xD
>7.01 was bad but they fixed it all in 7.02 xD
>7.02 was bad but they fixed it all in 7.03 xD
>7.25 was bad but they fixed it all in 7.26 xD
Which version are they at again?

look at that face shape though, she's just like mona lisa

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Post yfw shrines finally got removed

>Dota 2 has literally ZERO waifus
Pardon?

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How come no one ever talks about all the big grand LoL tournaments?

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the lolg general sometimes even gets stickied during big tournaments so I disagree

>makes a post that it quite literally the opposite of what this very thread is
LoLbabs are embarrassing

esports peaked here
just shut it all down already nothings ever topping this moment

Fuck off, cholo

>lowest player count since 2014
but if it survived for 6 years after 2014, how does that point of reference mean the game is dying?

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blessed giver of pasta

I think the getting older thing is a huge factor. Me and my buds used to play all night when we were in college but then life ends once you graduate and get a job so there is just not as much time and friends leaving games has a ripple effect.

>more people are playing checkers instead of chess
Who cares?

If I was in charge of moderating, I'd permaban anyone who uses Yea Forums vernacular

god i love this guy's stuff

>Blizzard

Biggest "Your skill level doesn't matter that much" moba on the market.

You can go on straight losing streaks and there isn't really much you can do as a solo player. Shame since it's a decent game.

i feel like it peaked with bw
but I enjoyed the early SC2 wol stuff

cool fan art bro

I feel like league is one of those shameless cashgrab games

when i have to turn off addblock to do something on a site it's always one of the games shamelessly being advertised

same tier as wow or raid shadowlegends

League is filled with smurf and bot accounts swimming around Coop vs AI to inflate their numbers. Dota and smite's numbers dipping means Mobas as a whole is dying.

what are the main differences between dota and league? I played a little of dota 2 but threw every single game because my allies were invariably toxic faggots and a far greater threat to me than the other team.

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best moba, but it has its flaws.

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nothing, you have the same toxic community except now your playing a watered down moba

Lol is a little faster. That's literally it.

Wasn't riot forced to pay ex employee trannies like $15,000 a piece because firing them is racist?

its beautifull seeing valve dying the only game they have right now at least userbase its cs go all the other games are dying slowly , dota, tf2, the shitty card game even half life alyx will be a disaster if the little gameplay we saw is real fuck them ,welcome chinese overlords with epic

dota has one or two extra mechanics that make dotafags act superior to lolfags even though they're essentially playing the same game

Dota 2 has always sucked. The real Dota 2 got made a decade ago and it was called HoN.

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>that happened, the game

>bw
Idk, considering how korean exclusive the scene was I disagree. I certainly enjoyed international starcraft 2 much more, though brood war did have more memorable names and players.

>Dotard paypig
>Game is dying
>Have to pay up more money EVERY YEAR to inflate TI prize pool to save face
Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahah
Post yfw

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>That one Dotard who brags about the prize pools being bigger than League

Lol.. Ur game is still dying..

Everything in LoL is "like x from DotA, but worse". That prevents individual skill from being a large factor and makes the game easier for casuals.

>the more difficult something is, the fewer people that play it.
zoomers claim another game. how many genres will they kill?

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>He wasn't there when TL got speedrunned at MSI

It's probably a retarded flip, dotard paypig monkeys here keep spouting about prize pools.

These threads are gay. Why do you guys argue over who has more players in their game?

Moba retards at this point are primarily slavs and spics. Lower denominator IQ leads them to become tribalistic and beat their chest for their billion dollar corporations.

>game designed to be slow, monotonous, time-consuming and extremely insular (YOU HAVEN'T READ ALL 2000 PAGES IN THE WIKI AND MEMORIZED IT BEFORE PLAYING?) is dying off
The real surprise is how popular mobas were for such a long time. Autism is clearly on a downward trend if dota is losing playerbase.

>dabs then flosses on dota's corpse

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Based hermano

It's like reverse-hipsterism
>Yo I listen to Justin Bieber
>HAHA FAG HE ONLY SOLD LIKE 10 MILLION
>REAL CHADS LISTEN TO LADY GAGA BECAUSE SHE SOLD 20 MILLION

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come play classic dota with us, anons

comfy inhouses with 10 players on mic

discord.gg/JrTAfuM

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Artifact is based, though.

CONQUISTADOR is the best word across all languages. Prove me wrong, pro tip: you can't.

Lost interest when Ana literally just solved dota

this man, i tried dota again after like 6 years and i was surprised how the game literally throws gold and exp at you so you can build items and level up no matter how many this you've fucked up. Really disappointing.

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What do I need to do in the Jungle role in LoL?

Just farm?

After all these is I still keep coming back to casually playing League. It is just so fast paced, responsive and charming. It is satisfying to outsmart enemies and help your team. Great game all in all. Can't say the same about Dota, which is slow, cranked with artificial lag to its ass (dotards will defend this) and not satisfying to do grand feats because of the comeback mechanic that could bite your ass later on

Hypocrite.

>behavior score
The fuck is this chicom bullshit?

If I could sum up all the reasons as to why, this image is a perfect example. Drow Ranger cosmetics don't even suit this new remodel when you use them. Basically, they keep doing retarded changes for the sake of change. Also, notice how they made her outfit less sexier?

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Is that Sylvanas?

>that armor not sexy

You some kinda queer, son? You can tell Dad.

No, Drow Ranger from DotA 2. ;)

topsons grim visage in the background

No. I liked it when her boobs were bigger and she showed her legs. Taking them away is gay if anything.

right is better
>but muh cleavage and horrific man face

Bros...
Dota forever

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>>League is massive and its player count is growing
Nope. Citation required.
Impossible Mode: Proving it's not all bots.

Why? Cause it looks like it's got better textures? So what. It's part of the reason why all the cosmetics don't suit it and look retarded. Also, all the previews use the original look too making it even more out of place.

>they keep doing retarded changes for the sake of change
as far as character redesigns go, LoL is far more guilty of this

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Am I the only one that misses Infinite Crisis?

This. Google trends for DOTA and LOL follow the same path (downwards the past couple of years). Also why riot is actually trying to make different games (hero shooter, lol fighter), though IDK if it's gonna succeed.

>Source 2 engine

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Played league for 7 years, dota 2 is still more fun and balanced and open to builds, lol is literally full in the blanks and 15 viable champs

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I hate both games (and ASSFAGGOTS in general) but I like seeing Valve fail. Maybe it'll light a fire under their ass to start making actual games again.

Is it true that Dota 2 added a hero that's almost a clone of Swain in terms of abilities?

So in a recent game I spammed a taunt in TFT that goes "squeaksqueak" endlessly. Here is the result.

The game would be way funnier if we could flame like in the good old times without punishment.

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>discord tranny faggot
are you fucking 16 lmfao
not even him but he definitely has a point. I say this as the guy with like 40GB of hentai games on his hard drive, stop living just for porn

Well, I meant overall including gameplay.

>Dota has a Mireska
>LOL doesn't have any Mireska
Seems like Dota's winning on the waifu front from where I'm sitting.

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>lol
>dota
is everyone on Yea Forums 3rd world?

seriously I don't know one american person who plays those games?

>seriously I don't know one american person who plays those games?
Unsurprising, blacks don't seem to have any interest in ASSFAGGOTs. They're more about fightan.

Problem is valve
They are pretty much going to their equivalent of a Blizzard phase being lazy and appealing to chinks
Difference is they are not actively shooting themselves in the foot just fattening til they die of a heart attack

i Haven't played dota 2 constantly since the monkey man was added, what's changed?

I played maybe a few weeks after skill trees and the fairy loli was added, that's it

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Fuck Blacksmith, Fuck Ogre Magi

FUCK

streamlined some stuff, changed the map a bit, bounty/exp changes, jungle now drops items, and some more stuff. In general there's more gold/exp in the map so things ramp up faster

I dunno post Swain's abilities.

The most recent dota heroes are a goblin grandma with guns riding a fire breathing horny lizard, and a teleporty taunting shadow man.

DOTA is struggling even with that. These are the fastest they can fill up rooms of 10 people

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This

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>sona was supposed to be LoL's invoker but she got relegated as an e-girl champ and will never get reworked because they cannot rework a champ to having a low skill floor
>aphelios is hyped up as "gunvoker" but he's literally nothing like him

I mean shit Sylas isn't even a good version of Rubick either they're never gonna catch up. I wish my friends would just play dota.

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dota would be in a better place if they rolled the entire game back to like 6.7

It's sad that all the things wrong with NA DotA were merely further enabled in NA LoL with their millions in sponsorships that care more about brand recognition than results.

And none of the players are even fucking American anymore it's a fucking wildcard scene where washed up foreigners go to collect their retirement fund.

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>still
>after 7.00

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>zoomer

Shit meme, fuck off.

>doublelift
>not american
ok

When zeratul stops being a little piece of OP shit. That nibba instagibs squishies like np at all. It's more potent than the old rewind nova yet people seems to be fine with it.

>League
>Koreans go to other countries for free money

>Dota
>Other countries go to Korea for free money

Yeah I'm thinking Dota is based.

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dota is un fucking playable these days. 80% of the matches have game ruiners, have a huge comeback for enemies even though you fucked them for 30 mins, etc. its just a total waste of time. your impact is not your own and it gets distributed to your team mates and the enemy team for fake combacks. doesnt help that all the heroes have been homogenized either. i have 10k hours and no love for this game anymore. they ruined it. and everyone feels this subconsciously even if they cant understand why.

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Yes he's American but NA teams shouldn't have 1/5 or 2/5 American starters like half of LCS

There's more fucking Danes playing in LCS than LEC.

But would you really rather play League? They don't even have active items and they go like Sange 1.0 -> Sange 2.0 -> Sange 3.0. You may call Dota worse than it was before but it is still easily so far ahead the rest when it comes to interactions and crazyness. The only real problem is the amount of hours required to even start playing the game.

What did he mean by this?

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no i think league is still worse. its just that dota is garbage now too.

yea well I get you somewhat. I have 9k hours but keep playing it because of my old friends and that also makes me vulnerable to soloqueuing

>15 million daily
How many of them are bugmen?

the last patch just fucking sucked dick
>Lets introduce even MORE ITEMS
>>>BUT IN TJHE JUNGLKE