Sonic Adventure Era thread

I am sick of modern sonic being self deprecating and repeating that same shit ad nauseum
>haha 06 was bad haha

I'm sure the PR team will stop falling back on the "self-deprecating" approach when Sonic Team starts putting out quality games.

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Anyone else bothered by how Shadow the Hedgehog had those circle drop shadows, even if SA2 and Heroes had realistic shadows ? Does it improve the framerate or something ?

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Probably to maintain performance. I didn't play the game, though shadows like that are normally used in platformers for players to validate where their character will land.

Considering the positive reception of the movie and of Mania Sonic seems to be back on the upswing. Turns out people get annoyed when Sonic takes itself too seriously and would rather have smaller but sincere scenarios with him

MARIAAAA

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>good old days
*WHEEEEEEEEEEEEZE*

and the PS2 version still runs at 30FPS because post-Dreamcast salt

Why the FUCK did they not do anything else with the idea of Sonic tapping into the negative energy of Chaos Emeralds.
Why the FUCK did Sonic Team do cool shit like this consistently and then just stop giving a fuck after Unleashed. The closest they've come to trying something risky again has been Forces, which seems like it began with someone who actually gave a fuck then just released before they even finished a proof of concept build.
FUCK.

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>Sony is the reason Sonic Heroes had to switch to renderware when Sonic Team was originally making it in the SA2 engine because the SA2 engine didn't work on PS2
>Sony is the reason Sonic Heroes and Shadow have the floaty horrible plastic engine
I will never be not mad

That's not at all what the problem was Slashy.

I imagine they don't want to focus on the chaos emeralds too much. The chaos emeralds seem to do everything from being glowing batteries to sending you back in time. If they focus on them more then they have to give them rules which no one wants to do

Makes sense. The game did have way more stuff going on than previous 3D Sonic games, since there were constant explosions, bloom lighting effects and scenary getting destroyed. I guess they wanted the game to run at 60 fps.

>That Heroes commercial
Holy shit, no wonder Sonic doesn't sell in Japan.

Heroes was made by Sonic Team USA, who didn't have any experience with PS2 hardware. They did make the Gamecube port of SA2, which is probably the reason why Heroes is better in that console.

Shadow did have better handling tho. They probably made the game on that engine from the start, whereas with Heroes, they were forced to switch engines halfway through.

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Shadow is a legitimately good game.

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This. I've been saying for years that Shadow the Hedgehog perfected the Adventure-style movement and control, but people still always say it's too "floaty".

>Sonic turns dark from fake emeralds after finding out what the Metarex did to Chris and Cosmos.
This is interesting.
>Sonic savagely wipes out those robots in a flash.
This is pretty awesome.
>Then Eggman shows up and kills the moment, Sonic reverts back and Dark Sonic was never seen again.
.............why?

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It's definitely good enough in terms of gameplay and presentation ( it had the best CGI cutscenes of the series up to that point ) It's the story and structure what lets it down. I do like it though.

Probably because you are fucking wrong.

the scene is better in japanese
they made it too goofy in the 4kids dub obviously

It's clear that the unfavorable reception that Shadow got didn't affect its development team, since they went on to make the Nights Wii sequel inmediately after.

I kinda wish we'd get something like Darkspine Sonic again. Dude was pretty raw.
It's Sonic X.

Problem is they already have given them certain rules and then just ignore them later.
I made a fucking Sonic Timeline I need the lore to be at least mildly consistent.

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The Adventure Games are complete shit, Sonic doesn't work in 3D

Ebin meme

>Sonic Adventure
>good ol days
That being said, I'm ruffling through mods for PC Sonic games.
I don't know whether to laugh or cringe at some of the creations. Thicc and big boobed Rouge, Movie Sonic and Robotnik, Spider-Man Sonic and Venom Shadow, Real Hedgehog....
Like who needed to make a Sonic Mania mod that has Amy get fatter the longer you play?

I mean, you gotta get your rocks off somehow.

It was funny for a while, but now it's just painful to see. I honestly won't buy the next game if it's just more boost shit with the same writing we've had from Colors.

Off of Sonic characters though?

it has the potential to work but no one is willing to put in the effort

Yeah man, why not?

The Adventure era had everything going for it except good gameplay unfortunately.

Because that's furry shit and they look like distorted bobblehead doll aliens?

But people still liked them. Gameplay included.

What bothers me is that they threw everything away with Heroes.

At least there was an attempt to make Sonic work as a 3D platformer.

>except good gameplay
I'll give you SA2 but SA1 was pretty fun if slightly buggy.
The plot was extremely stupid but it was fun in a B-Movie sort of way. The voice acting was really really bad but again it was cheesy. Character designs felt okay, level designs were varied, minigames were nice, in SADX the extra bonus stuff for finding all the medals was nice (even if you have to mod it back in with the PC port). Chao raising was fun although frustrating and I kept accidentally tripping over the little fucks.
I had a lot of fun as E-102 and used Big the Cat as a sort of palette cleanser between the other characters' arcs. I'd play a character to completion or boredom, beat a Big level or two, then hop into another character and repeat.

I still want to smack Knuckles upside the head though but that's another story.

They literally threw everything away with Heroes. It was a game aimed at casual players with no experience with the Adventure games. like, i can see why, since it was the first multiplatform game in the series, but it's still a step backwards.

how is Heroes more casual than Adventure? I'd say Heroes takes more skill to complete than Adventure. I can easily breeze through Adventure but Heroes takes longer and I die more often than I would in Adventure.

Unless you were fereing to the story being more generic in which case I agree.

Not him but I'm just going to point at Team Rose.
Best part for me was seeing characters from Knuckles' Chaotix running around again, also wrecking everything as Team Dark.
Otherwise I didn't really enjoy Sonic Heroes as much as Adventure but even Heroes was better than 2006.

this

although it wasn't much fun some of the levels were cool. Egg Fleet was my favourite, I kinda wanted to see that again in Generations.

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>see that again in Generations
Pretty sure there's a mod for that. Definitely one for the Sonic World fangame.

Adventure 1 and 2 had great gameplay that focused on arcade style mastery similar to the genesis games. Everything after those two was trash yeah.

kino

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I binged watched Sonic X recently. I liked it.

Where these from bro

I miss flash autism

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Untrue.

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kino

I don't think Adventure had much of anything going for it aside from some cool set-pieces.

music and art
the idea for the stories were good at least

Finished 2.2 recently and it was pretty fucking good the final level might be one of the greatest final levels i've played in a platformer. That be said the controls are pretty fucking weird especially with how jump momentum works, if Sega released something like this it would get absolutely shit scores.

From an old issue of CoroCoro

>with how jump momentum works
What about it?
Also, if by final level you mean the last 2 non-boss acts, those are actually the levels not updated from 2.1 to my knowledge.

it accelerates extremely fucking fast like you can jump almost from a standstill and completely fly huge distances and it just doesn't feel like it makes alot of sense. I got used to it eventually but it never felt truly good and more like I was coping with it because of how good everything else was.

i hate the after effects edit, original version was better

>make female counterpart to Sonic
>even hint at her being a potential love interest in her introductory game
>suddenly pair her up with Silver and then completely forget about her
What was the fucking point

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Because Status Quo and fuck Character Development.

there was a sega ama on Yea Forums earlier today
they're run by dumb incompetent boomers

>there was a sega ama on Yea Forums earlier today
Come on user, you can't just believe everything you see on the internet.

Does anyone have Sonic X full series mega with jap dub?

>taxman sonic games will never be on steam because sega doesn't want to pay royalties
>no plans for skies of arcadia
sounds pretty real to me

"Sega is retarded" is not a hard prediction to make.

So question to all you PC chads. Can I set the default language in Sonic Adventure on Steam to Japanese so I can hear the Japanese voice actors say "Sega" at the opening titles? Also, I am playing with the Dreamcast mods.

The point was for DIMPS to have a character they could develop without heavy oversight from Sega, the way every spinoff will focus heavily on a brand new character.

I understand dark super sonic was edgy and childish, but I will never forget looking up sa1 mods and advance1-3 rom hacks with dark super sonic
my mind was blown back then

Blaze becomes Silver's tard strangler when?

06.

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All around me are familiar Blazes
Worn out Blazes, worn out Blazes

they should've just made silver a straight trunks clone instead of the half retarded mess he turned out to be

I don't know why but this image is giving me a mini existential crisis

Is it because Blaze isn't real?

I think it's the fact that Silver is calling for his friend in this empty void

Since we're on the topic of Silver..
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I loved that mini period where his quills were insanely long. Late 90s to super early 2000s was my peak Sonic fandom.

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I liked it when Sonic looked like he could roll up into a ball, the extreme curvature in his design in Adventure helped express that. Modern feels so sterile in comparison.

I am convinced this theme is the only reason anyone gives a shit about Silver.

Is this a fucking remix of green hill zone?

fuck you eggman

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the music in sonic 06 is the only remotely redemptive aspect of it
if that wasn't solid then even turbo furry deviant autists would despise it

He’s like a kid that lost his mom in the grocery store.

But turbo furry deviant autists do despise it.

The Green Hill parts are said to be completely coincidental, which is either true, or it was done to avoid Dreams Come True getting pissed from the lack of royalties given from that song.

But they have sweet dreams AND a remix of it on the soundtrack so they clearly have no problem with royalties

best game

It's probably truly coincidental, but the composer had the theme in the back of their head because they were making music for Sonic the Hedgehog. That shit can be hard to avoid.

There's too many Sonic threads up

Personally, I'm also a huge fan of the 2006/Archie design where his quills hang low when he isn't running.

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gotta go fast

You are now aware that Blaze doesn't say a single syllable to anyone but herself and Silver in 06.