Why fighting games aren't as popular as MOBAs and multiplayer shooters?

Why fighting games aren't as popular as MOBAs and multiplayer shooters?

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>skill based fighting games vs click this one area and spam spells/shoot

Because MOBAs and shooters are considerably easier to perform at a higher level in.

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its the skillcap for controlling your character in a fun way and doing cool shit

Autistic button combos and only two players. Also no open maps.

why did these two get paired together

Fighting games are one on one. When you lose you have no one to blame but yourself. A lot of people can’t face that sort of failure over and over to get good at fighters. Also tell me how old Raven is.

>Why isn't there the social pressure to play a 1 on 1 game vs a game with several more people actively competing in a single game, often forming clans and to foster a sense of obligation to the group to continue playing?

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Because they’re both magic?

Oh God... Imagine them getting blacked at the same time bros...

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mutts law is fucking real holy fuck go to work already

It just doesn't have the same impact if you aren't the first person to respond.

In fighting games you perform always the same combinations of buttons in order to wins and you have to study frame data and hitboxes
moba and shooter give you more space for different plays also because it's not 1 versus 1

fighting games are for nerds and autists

Wait... Raven isn't black?

no variation

Fighting games require a much bigger commitment of time and effort to get good at. You can't get good at FGC just by playing the game and looking at what's happening onscreen, you have to study their internal workings.
Most people who play video games just want to have quick, easy fun.

Charmcaster was best girl.

No, but according to the live-action series Starfire is.

>fighting games are for nerds and autists

I seriously hope this is bait or based on the Smash community, because only a Virgin Lord of Funhating would say such a thing

I seen the red haired girl getting Triple penetrated in the ass simultaneously....

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I don't feel like I'm losing my mind playing ASSFAGGOTS at 100 ping.

Starfire and Blackedfire are better than these two

Stop

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The competency barrier is higher.

Shitters don't even remotely want to git gud. They want to win out the gate.

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She's a demon lady or something

>Also tell me how old Raven is.
old enough....

because people only play the most popular games, why do you think we always get a resurgence every evo?

I hope you fags grow a personality and play better games.

Fighting games are not fun for majority of normies. They've always been a niche genre.

>Teen Titans/Ben 10 crossover

When did that happen?

Starfire > Raven

All theses idiots, fighting games have a very low skill cap it's based on reflexes and being able to remember a few combos. Wow why else do you think blacks can't get enough of them.
>Little skills
>Little strategy
>Minimal knowledge requirement

A moba requires you to invest so much time into knowing items and builds fore sight into what your opposing team is attempting to do and coordination with other players a button mashing ape man would never compete in a real game versus some virgin who's been critically thinking about how to win his whole life

I believe it was just a bit between shows that CN used to do.

Charmmaster > Gwen

>arcades are dead
>couch play/get togethers are less common because online exists and is way less hassle for everyone involved
>fighting games with their precise inputs don't lend well to online play
By God, you're right.

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Shes clearly grey

See

So Fighting games require skill while Moba's require knowledge. Got it.

Based

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Raven is gigawhite goth gf

Thanks for reminding me how a great artist like this can draw 90% macro art

I want to impregnate Gwen so fucking bad bros.

Blame the commissioners and his country's porn laws

???

I thought they were sisters?

And?

macro?

Beign one on one, it shows your skill at face value, you can't assume it's not your fault you lost and/or how shit you are, by the same token no one can carry your sorry ass.
It also doesn't help the poster child, Street fighter had questionable art direction in its last iterations

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Sisters can’t do that

>Charmmaster
Wait did the 40 extra Ben 10 series change Charmcaster's name?

...what about AFTER?

But so was Jinx, and she was black.

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This.
Also, pressing buttons is hard enough for your average moba player, imagine having them do actual inputs.

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Majority of players play on consoles. Shooting games are way easier than fighting games

FPS games are extremely casual now. Just look at the recent changes to battlefield. Most FPS games and shit like fortnite are casual as fuck. Can't shoot? Build. Miss your shots? Suppression. Noobs hit you a couple of times? Blood effects on your screen so you can't shoot back properly etc

They're alien sisters it's cool

who's this qt

Suppression is really useful in good team games and I'm still butthurt about how useless it is in Rising Storm 2. Keeping peoples heads down as the rest of the squad maneuvers is what machineguns are for, otherwise you've just got a big heavy weapon that shoots "I'M OVER HERE" bullets.

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B-B-B-B-B-BASED!

She's from the fat elf manga

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Try using saucenao

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It's pretty funny that the MG user in these types of games is just a camper in a doorway 9/10 times and the sniper is the one running around suppressing people by plinking them down from an unknown location.

Hell let loose is the only game I've seen that does it right, if an MG opens up in the same postcode as you it turns your screen into a nightmare grey blur and you can't hear anything over the sound of canvas shredding.

>fighting games are based on reflexes
wanna now how I can tell you don't know how to play fighting games?

Gigantess

Shit, I forgot about all those 60 year old fighting game champs.
I forgot that it was Granpa Foxy that won last evo.

What he means is that it’s not about reaction time as much as it is reading and anticipating your opponent. Most shit going on in fighting games is too fast to actually counter with reflexes. Fighting games is mostly mind games.

Maybe something to do with teams?

The only real popular single player esports game i can think of at the moment is forntite and even that has duo and 4 mans. Maybe hearthstone but thats seems to have died down too?

This.
Fighting game players are more intellectually enlightened humans, they can take a loss and not have their ego shattered by it.

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If you lose, you can’t blame your team for your loss. Low skill kids hate that, cause it shows how much they suck. High skill kids hate it, cause they have to admit they aren’t the gods they thought they were in their mind?

MOBAs allow you to blame your teammates for a loss while you have to blame yourself for the loss in fighting games

Fighting game players have literally killed each other over losses.

I see u user

this is a cope for people who are genetically barred from ever succeeding in fighting games

Lol, fighting games are chess at 60 FPS. MOBAs are literally toddler teir

>People blame Lag or controllers anyways
lmao

Is it because of the long legs? The cute personality?

>best girl
>not Oga
Please.

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It was just a commercial. Remember that? When commercials could actually be hype?

You need to be 18 or older to browse this website.

I don't have a reaction image that adequately conveys my derisive laughter.

people dont like learning to control your character
it's weird seeing my friends play fighting games and struggle with stuff like quarter circles and dp motions when those motions are just second nature to me now

I bet it must also be weird seeing your friends not trying to fellate random strangers in the street when those motions are second nature to you now.

>can't get good at FGC
Getting good at FGC just means continuously bitching about SF5 in twitch chat and learning which streamers are and aren't allowed to call people nigger faggot trannies.

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That's the best part!

*shoryukens you*
heh.... your about 10000 years too early to challenge me... Kid.... ,,

1v1 vs teambased
People who suck at the game don't want to embarrass themselves, and hate being bullied online

Personally, I just hate fighting games because they're BORING as fuck
I'd unironically arena fighters and beat em ups over the age old generic piece of shit fighting game format of 2 fighters moving sideways timidly tapping keys until they hit once and can combo 90% of the opponents health.

The world needs more moddable beat em ups like Little Fighter 2

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Epic.

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1v1
trash online
higher skill floor

So who won which match?

Yamazaki

Stabbed? It looks like he fuckin exploded!

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>that pic

to be fair KOF 97 is busted enough to piss off anyone

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>fighting games are too simplistic
>the world needs more games where you hold right and mash B

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t. faggot who never played littlefighter 2
you would get stomped if all you did was walk and mash button

Yes yes, I'm sure you had to mash A every now and then too.

Man, I really enjoy the thinking aspect of fighting games. Knowing how to respond to certain moves, avoiding getting hit, learning what your opponent likes to do is all fun and challenging as fuck. What I don't like is all the autistic grinding to learn techs and combos just to try and be on par with those who do. I just want to play video games, not fucking train myself in a useless skill.

All competitive games require training and practice.

>projectile deflections
>spatial awareness
>special attacks that actually affect the map
>crowdcontrol
>multiplayer match madness
>shields, walls, clones, weapons, props etc
I'm not trying to convince you or prove myself, I just think you're an ignorant retard and anyone who defends combosimulators is a faggot

I still remember my first SF4 online win was a really close fight with Ibuki against some random Ken. I guess you can call it getting in the zone, but the second he started doing the Hadouken animation i was already doing my super roll, went under it and snapped his neck for victory.

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the human body contains a lot of blood

You'd be surprised how much blood you can lose and live, you need to lose like 20% just to start feeling the effects
Also blood stains like hell

Raven was 15 up until the season 4 episode "Birthmark" where she became 16.

Your average human has a gallon of blood inside them.

God, I just want old Cartoon Network back.

But I can drink a gallon of water a day, that makes no sense

I'm curious what you think that has to do with anything

Nope, seems that was a typo (that or the reboot that don't have a wiki page yet)

Idk why we always have these threads along with "why did fighting games die?" Fighting games are fine, they're in a solid place and the people that enjoy playing them continue to buy and play them. The two main reasons I see people not getting into fighting games is:
A) compared to MOBAs, the barrier for entry is perceived as high since the complexity is also all on yourself. MOBAs have complexity in the form of builds and lane/counter strategies, and there is a lot of mental play at higher levels, but many people you ask who have played for a couple years still haven't put in the time to learn everything, it's just that the idea of dicking around with a group of your friends makes them okay with that.
B) relatively little incentive for new players to get into them from little to no single player content, and if it's there it's totally disconnected from actual game logic. Granblue Versus is doing a pretty good job of bridging that with its RPG mode and ACTUALLY good tutorials, and I have faith the league of legends fighter will incentivize newer players to log in to receive small boons.

Fighting games are sick tho. With all the energy you guys spend baiting and false flagging for one side or the other, you could actually learn a game at a fundamental level.

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Sounds like you need SamSho.

You are very very wrong. Raven is for Beast Boy vovk, so she can take a wide variety of animals.Gwen is made exclusively for her little cousin Ben's cock, primarily his human cock, but sometimes she likes to mix it up a little.

Higher skill gap

One vs one so no blaming on other teammates

DLC and microtransactions are x10 worse in fighting games.

You want to know the real reason ASSFAGGOTS chumps don't play fighting games? Because they think they're good at video games in general. They think they're competitive, they think they're skilled, and fighting games expose every flaw you have as a player. In team-based games, you can hide your lack of ability, you can cover it with a teammate who compliments you.

Having to face your flaws as a player, game after game, match after match, hour after hour, is draining, and only the tough survive the onslaught.

What microtransactions? And the DLC issue is mostly fixed now (except I guess the prices)

If fighting games are so much harder then why don't fighting game players master the ez games and take all the prize money from those games tournaments?

kof 97 is broken 98

Daigo is legit hilarious.

The whole "You don't have your teammates to blame for your losses" is just ignoring the criticism people who bounce off from fighting games have. Bad tutorials, bad netcode, bad matchmaking, tons of DLC and seasons passes, no social aspect can't play with friends, getting hit and having nothing to do for 10-40 seconds depending on the game, having to watch tutorials to just play matches for fun before deciding if you want to comit hours to a genre you are completely green, the list goes on and on. Personally I think the entire of 1 on 1 fighting genre is failed design but people keep playing it because they are used to from their arcade days. Smash is how a fighting game should be, you don't have to watch a tutorial to just start playing with your friends and have fun. I'm happy whatever bad stuff happens to Fighting games, I hate it it's design and the people who play it and I just want to see it gone and see something better take its place.

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That's what Justin Wong does, or at least used to. He doesnt even really understand the finer parts of most games he plays , he's just very fundamentally strong and defensive.

Her mom is white, but her dad is red.

That is a very fair assessment and I agree wholeheartedly with your conclusions.

>I've never played fighting video games:the post
Fucking retard

You don't have to watch a tutorial to play street fighter with your friends though, i don't understand this criticism

That's what Sonic Fox does with the NetherRealms games.

Kazunoko too, that guy just walk up to a new game, picks a strong/cheap/generally easy character and cleans house. Idk how many games that guy plays competently

More likee they are easy to perform at the lowest level. Someone who picks up cod knows the basics (walking, aiming and shooting) just by pressing stuff on a controler, in a fighting game you have to go and look through the list of moves if you want to do a simple special

I meant why don't fighting game players dominate assfaggots and shooters if they're so much easier.
Not "why don't fighting game players play fighting games?"

Because fighting games require an immense amount of skill and time spent training

But if I'm going to play a fighting game with my friends I rather play Smash than SF, it's a fun game instead of a 'competitive' one. Competitive games were a fucking mistake.

This person has never played a fighting game in his life. They are by far the most high skill cap games right after fast paced real time strategy games.
To do even moderately well in any fighting game, one has to learn and memorize ALL COMBOS, ALL INDIVIDUAL ATTACKS, ALL OF THEIR FRAMES OF EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER. Otherwise you lose to those characters in PvP.

>im racist so that proves my point

>not doing round robins of Guilty Gear XX with your bros
I miss it, guys...

stealth gwen threads are my favorite

both games are competitive by definition, you're just acting like it's impossible to fuck around and have fun in traditional games for some reason. You telling me some normie wouldn't look at abigail's stupid ass and enjoy just jumping around and pressing heavy punch?

Thats not skill, thats rote memorisation.
If that constitutes skill then we should all bow down to the high skill cap games of scrabble and general trivia

I don't know, look at the sales of SF and the sales of Smash and you tell me which people prefer.

traditional fighting games i meant to say

>To do even moderately well in any fighting game, one has to learn and memorize ALL COMBOS, ALL INDIVIDUAL ATTACKS, ALL OF THEIR FRAMES OF EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER
No you don't.

smash bros is super famous

I wasn't even disagreeing with most of your argument, fgs are lagging behind in many of the areas that you mentioned, netcode, tutorials, piles and piles of dlc, i agree with all of those. My problem is you act like it's impossible to have fun in a fighting game because "it's competitive" as if that factors in at all when friends are just hanging out and playing.

I want to fuck Gwen so bad bros..

*real people aren't arguing that they're so much easier at the higher levels, but you can't deny fps/MOBAs are generally more inviting at the lower levels. Besides, you're ignoring the key point here: MOBAs are some of the least fun games to learn and play in existence, and I dont particularly enjoy team based games in the first place. that's my opinion so you can't tell me I'm wrong haha :^) you're arguing for someone to get an entirely different skillset as well to prove some machismo point about MOBAs or fps being superior, when you know that's not feasible for someone to be a highly competetive player in both opposite realms at once when in just one people train all day

You can have fun with anything with your friends, I remember playing Shadow the Hedgehog versus mode with my friends and having fun, but that doesn't mean the game is any good or that you wouldn't have more fun with another game. The problem with competitive games is that they want to be craft, a art, they want you to spend all your free time playing them and masterying them and they are pretty bland from a newbie perspective. I had so much more fun playing Brawl with my coworkers than SF4 on a arcade with my friends after the movies.

I'm not arguing with real people, I'm arguing with Yea Forums people who are claiming that the reason fighting games are unpopular is because they have a higher skill ceiling when they clearly don't.
MOBAs are the worst thing to ever be conceived my man though.

Because most gamers are too soft for a 1v1 game where you don't have a team to blame when you lose

Did you mean SF2 or are there actual arcades with SF4?

Arcades with SF4. There was one on the mall I used to go with my friends to watch movies. There were House of the Dead, some car games and Taiko no Tatsujin which we went crazy on. That one was a workout and half.

Fighting games are pure skill.
Getting good teammates or good cards in a card game is mostly luck, so shitters can win just enough to stay happy.
If you suck shit in a fighting game god fucking damn will it let you know. A fighting game will make you feel like a stupid fucking piece of shit even if you're in the top 95% of players.

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Ever since I started getting good at fighting games I've become addicted to them, the fun in other genres is just thin compared to learning/practicing something and beating somebody at it. I still play a bunch of things of course but all my thoughts in my free time go towards fgs

Sounds nice, somewhat wish we had arcades where i live.

This makes me think. Every single fucking hit in a fighting game is a stun. Imagine playing a MOBA or a shooter and every single time you took damage you lost control of your character.

The first 100 h of playing figthing games you are basically force to play to learn instead of playing for enjoyment/the win. This is really quite the barrier since most people just want to shoot the shit with their friend in a free to play team game after work/school.

source

>MOBAs
>MULTIPLAYER Online Battle Arena
>MULTIPLAYER shooters
There you go

Technically fightans are multiplayers too, but it's 1v1. Either most people easily get bored/can't focus playing alone for too long or people can't get teammates that carried their ranks or they blame for losing.
More things are happening on screen too because shooters/MOBAs have more players, so it's more "fun" to watch for majority of people.

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Whats the appeal of Ben 10. I dont mean of the waifubait i mean the show itself. It feels like it came way too late during the CN era and just doesnt strike a cord with me from its protagonist to premise.

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I think it was the fact that a random nobody could transform into various distinct looking creatures to essentially get superpowers.

For me it was one of those shows where the world building was more interesting than the protag.

to add to this is also very correct.

Pre-wall Gwen and Ben's alien transformations.

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The aliens look cool

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God Raven is hot. I want her to piss on me.

C

Bro look at that waifu

Generally speaking the skill floor is a lot higher in fighting games than it is in shooters/mobas. If you go into a shooter completely blind you can still have a fun time, and you only need to play a few games in a MOBA to enjoy your time in that as well.
For fighter games the enjoyment mainly comes from competition, and the only way you get good at most fighting games is knowing intricate move-sets and game mechanics. Thus the entry barrier is a lot higher for new players than in shooters, or even MOBAs.

I understood that reference

>Gwen is made exclusively for her little cousin Ben's cock
Canon coal burner
youtube.com/watch?v=Bj1OiN4QhEw

The only bad Gwen is AF.

You don't have to join a discord just to play mobas or shooters

It's kinda just a cool concept.

>I meant why don't fighting game players dominate assfaggots and shooters if they're so much easier.
because they devote their time to being at a competitive level in fighting games? dear god, Yea Forums is dumb

That was Kai's waifu. I think she died bro, but that's a running theme in Gundam anyway

Wrong

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Judging from some of the complaints in this thread, and it's a pretty common complaint that you see in every fighting game thread no matter where you are it comes down to two things:
1) People don't want to invest the time to get even somewhat adequate
2) They definitely don't want to get their shit stomped in by some random with more knowledge and experience in the game than they do

You could be a bronze in SFV and get outclassed by most of the people you meet simply because they understand the game better than you do if you're just starting out. It's a constant uphill climb that never stops no matter which game you pick. There's also how potentially ego crushing it can be against friends. Even if it's for fun sparring between somebody who plays the game vs someone who doesn't and despite the former lop siding the odds through handicaps or holding back, everything still boils down to them having better knowledge of what to do and how to play.

Fighting games have the potential to be fun for anyone. Losing burns, everyone understands that, but as long as you can take the losses on the chin and keep going, and you accept that no matter how 'good' you get you're going to received a healthy dose of humility as somebody tears you down at some point then you can enjoy fighting games no problem.

If you’re shitty you can still contribute by supporting/get carried by your mates/blame your loss on them.
In fighting games a better player will shit on you and youll be totally helpless, while only having yourself to blame.

I think you're assuming an incredible amount of knowledge you aren't privy to, of course kaz and jwong deeply understand the ganes they play you lunatic, they just feign ignorance as a strategic idea, if you think the other dude doesn't even understand the game, but he beats you, wouldn't that piss you off? You think you could win evo in any game without understanding it on a deeper level than others? Try looking past what you see on the surface

Hi leffen, t7 still giving you trouble?

Fighting games have a horrible learning curve and generally do a horrible job of teaching you how to play.

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>tekken 7 literally has a mode that tells you what buttons to press at what time
ok retard

oh look, the league baby has logged on

>I don't know what the word "generally" means, because I have and IQ of 50.

Probably the best comparison I've seen. I'd agree with this.

Simply because when you lose you only have yourself to blame, while in mobas or shooters you could at least talk shit to your teammates, or the enemies if you get frustrated.

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Your average OP has a gallon of cum inside him.

1v1 is never gonna be as popular as team vs team or all vs all

Because fighting games are for autistic stinkyass combonerd weirdos. Also MOBAs are for autistic asians and obese fantasyfags. Chad only plays the latest multiplayer shooter with a high quality mic and calls everyone outside his crew a nigger.

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They were super popular in the early 90s. What happened since then?

>le reddit brain number

arcades are dead everywhere outside of japan

>he’s not a racist
loser.

>red haired girl
>not knowing who Gwen Tennyson is
Zoom or Boom? Could be either.

Ya. Give me the sauce.

Yeah now that’s a power dunk if I’ve ever seen one

Darkstalkers was too good for this world.

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incognitymous

god you are the dumbest motherfucker on the planet

Support my patreon
also MOBAs have more going on with them similar to a Chess match but with visuals

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Not an argument

I swear this is a samefag concerning the outbreak only starting last month

wasnt trying to make one you fucking retard. do you not know what an insult is?

based

That wasn't an insult, that was an autistic screech over your inability to read.
Enjoy this last (you), 4channel is an English language 18+ site.

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The entire world has complete shittaste. Everyone is rather playing Fortnite, popularized Dark Souls clones, genuinely thinks Dragon Ball Z is good and vote for people like Trump.

>having to watch tutorials to just play matches for fun before deciding if you want to comit hours to a genre you are completely green

The real thing I can take away from this post is that for some reason you believe that you need to make a commitment and study/research a fighting game before you can play it properly and that other games (Like MOBA's or Smashbros) don't.
In reality if you want to play any game well you need to play a lot, and research/studying can help. Even in what people would call simpliest MOBAs it can take hundreds of hours to get anywhere near a competent level, and the vast majority of people never even get close to that.

So let me ask, why people believe that you need to actually be good at a fighting game in order to properly enjoy it, while other versus games like MOBAs are supposedly enjoyable without any preparation? Is it simply because information on how to play MOBAs is easier to follow and understand than with fighting games?

Go look up her comic design, she’s white

Normally, I don't give a fuck about wonderwoman, but when she looks like this she's suddenly the best girl.

Hmm, fascinating.

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Cool concept, good world building, actual character arc/growth for the protag
It was kind of like a shonen, but a western cartoon

Because you will get your ass blown out online by people that have been playing fighting games since SF2 until you get to a medium skill level, when you get to stomp other newbies, in a never ending cycle of stomping new players. Because of the nature of fighting games you cannot have fun online unless you are somewhat competent because the other player will simply dominate the match, non-stop comboing you or simply countering everything your green ass can thrown at him. On the other hand you can have fun without even knowing what you are doing in most other online games, even if just by hanging out with your friends on vc while you get shoot / die in a moba.

Patrician fetish

The story of this one is stupider than you'd think. It wasn't just one guy raging at a loss or cheap tactic.

See, in China, it's considered poor form to raw super in KoF. I don't know why, maybe it can be seen as insulting to your opponent because it implies you caught them mashing, or they're too stupid to block after the seeing the super flash. Player A did a raw super and it hit. Player B took offense, and Player A preemptively stabbed Player B because he thought Player B was going to beat him up. Fighting games!

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It was a super move.

>That justice league unlimited episode where all the OG superheroes get turned into kids
>WW wants to bang Batman non stop
When did Diana cast off her loli-sex machine ways

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I'm not too familiar with KoF, is it really easy to raw super or something?

Why was she so hot in this design?
No seriously, is it the eyes?

Yeah, it was the eyes for me as well.

>young
>wanting D non stop
>beaming bedroom eyes like its an emergency broadcast
The mind boggles

>Playing Power Rangers
>Still barely know what I'm doing
>Find a double launcher/OTG combo with Tommy that's clearly very sub optimal
>Cue up with another guy who's new
>Game goes back and forth with us trading hits, lead trades places a few times
>Finally confirm into launcher and go into my combo
>12 hits into the combo and after the second launcher he disconnects

New fighting game players are such little bitches. I could understand if I was steamrolling him but immediately after he lost control of his character for 5 seconds he quits. I really think it's that loss of control that ADHD zoomers can't stand. Even in FPS games there's rarely situations where you're locked out of your inputs.

Here's your Teen Titans, bro

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Not really, the etiquette is just that they expect you to always combo into it. Just like how in the early Tekken days some arcades in I think Korea didn't like it if you used lows.

>draw young teen
>"why is shy hot?"
You just answered your own question.

inb4 unsourceable

"Heterosexual Men’s Ratings of Sexual Attractiveness of Pubescent Girls: Effects of Labeling the Target as Under or Over the Age of Sexual Consent"

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She is not Orange
He is not Green
She is not Gray

They got ALL the fucking colors wrong.

Patch culture and season passes have ruined modern fighting games.

At least beastboy is looking good

>Ben 10 gets a modernized reboot
>Turns into a show designed to push progressive values like interaciality and inferiority of white men
Love it.

Because there are 50 obscure fightan games all populated by 1000 to 5000 tribalist cunts instead of 2 fightan games populated by 50000 cunts.

>Started Watching Ben10 this year just for context for Gwen porn and why the fuck she's always paired with Raven
The show sucks and I don't see any appeal, Gwen isn't that interesting so far and I'm halfway through S2

Raven was white in the comics.

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People are drawn to the taboo of incest. It's that simple.

>interesting
She got porn because her design and attitude

>Not being able to play fighting games online without me wanting to kill myself will never happen
Life is suffering

There's no after is there?

Fuck off

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In moba and shooters you perform the same gameplay loop, run around stage and spam attacks at anything that moves and fighting games have complex controls, more depth and a competitive 1 on 1 format.

If you boil anything down to its basics you can make it sound boring and retarded. If your brain was smoother it would be a curling stone.

Cousin incest barely counts

I have a thing for bitchy redheads and I dunno man I'm just not seeing it

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He uses a raw super both in the game and real life. The other player could have easily read that.

i now need misty and gwen going at it. it's the only way to satisfy ginger desires

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She looks like she exclusively fucks black men.

cause they poopoo

Honestly, I think it's because fighting games sucking at easing new players in while simultaneously suck at holding their attention. You could have never played a shooter in your and if you buy Overwatch right now, you'd still find people at your skill level to play with and feel like you're progressing as a player, even 4 years after launch. Contrast that with any fighter released in the past 4 years. New players finding each other would be almost impossible, if you join a game you'd get stomp by some guy who's been playing the series for the past decade, so you'd learn almost nothing after a match and the only helpful tips you'd ever get was to "Go lab that shit bro". Yeah, new players really want to sit in practice mode for hours by themselves learning about all the autistic shit and minute systems that make up a fighting game. Also, the online are almost guaranteed dog shit, most launch with a pitiful amount of content, then they fleece players a few months after launch for additional characters. It also doesn't help that most FG players are corporate cock suckers who defend companies greedy DLC practice and garbage online to the death.

>i now need misty and gwen going at it. it's the only way to satisfy ginger desires
You forgot the ginger goddess bro

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imagine being such an ignorant moron
that you draw gwen... with tits.....

redmoa needs to do more raven.

You might just not like lolis

saying fighting games makes you good at other genres is the same as saying being good at singing makes you good at guitar

Asuka clearly has auburn hair there, user.

>I just want to play video games, not fucking train myself in a useless skill.
I don't see the difference
I do see it and I feel the same way, but I'm sure those tech and combos are naturally part of the thinking aspect for those good at fightan games

That's because not only fighters are usually harder but just being able to play them is a huge trouble in itself.

I can legit play almost any game from other genres online and have zero problems but fighting games require an almost perfect connection with other players and that doesn't happen the majority of the time.

The 100 hours I have in fighter Z 70 of those were trying to find matches and when I did it was awful more than half of time.

People also like to blame the 1v1 aspect of it but it can't be true since other games also have 1v1 situations all the time and people still play them. You even have shit like 1 v99 in battle Royale games and they are a huge success.

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Clearly the answer is to make a Fighting Royale game.

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>tfw love hyper dicks but hate sounding and cock vore

Nice

Normies, there is your answer.

Why are you acting like liking big cocks and liking people being swallowed by a cock are related?

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You have to have a huge cock if you want it to swallow somebody. Many huge cock pictures are ruined by cock vore for me.

When did entertainment start going downhill Yea Forums? It wasn't always shit

> GOTY, AOTY, MOTY, P.O.T.Y winners

1989 - Tetris, Kiki's Delivery Service, The Little Mermaid, Michael Jackson
1990 - SMB3, Nadia: Secret of Blue Water, Goodfellas, Michael Jackson
1991 - SMW, Only Yesterday, Silence of the Lambs, Michael Jackson
1992 - Zelda: ALTTP, Sailor Moon, Unforgiven, Michael Jackson
1993 - Zelda: L.Awakening, Slam Dunk, Schindler's List, Michael Jackson
1994 - FF6, Magic Knight Rayearth, Shawshank Redemption, Michael Jackson
1995 - Chrono Trigger, Whisper of the Heart, Braveheart, Michael Jackson
1996 - Super Mario 64, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Fargo, Michael Jackson
1997 - Final Fantasy VII, Revolutionary Girl Utena, Titantic, Michael Jackson
1998 - Ocarina of Time, Cardcaptor Sakura , Saving Private Ryan, Michael Jackson
1999 - SoulCalibur, Princess Mononoke, The Matrix, Britney Spears

2000 - Pro Skater 2, Cowboy Bebop, Gladiator, Britney Spears
2001 - Final Fantasy X, NOIR, Mulholland Drive, Britney Spears
2002 - Metroid Prime,Spirited Away, LOTR: Two Towers, Britney Spears
2003 - The Wind Waker, Fullmetal Alchemist, Return of the King, Britney Spears
2004 - Half-Life 2, Howls Moving Castle, Eternal Sunshine, Britney Spears
2005 - Resident Evil 4, Eureka Seven, Crash, Britney Spears
2006 - Twilight Princess, Code Geass, Pan's Labyrinth, Britney Spears
2007 - Super Mario Galaxy, Death Note, No Country for Old Men, Britney Spears
2008 - Super Smash Bros Brawl, Code Geass R2, The Dark Knight, Barack Obama
2009 - Uncharted 2, FMA: Brotherhood, Slumdog Millionaire, Michael Jackson
2010 - Mass Effect 2, Disappearence of Haruhi, Social Network, Michael Jackson
2011 - Skyrim, Madoka Magica, The Tree of Life, Michael Jackson
2012 - The Walking Dead, Girls Und Panzer, Argo, Jesus Christ
2013 - Grand Theft Auto V, Kill La Kill, 12 Years a Slave, Jesus Christ

> 2008 - Obama, Brawl, Code Geass again, Capeshit
Right here

2009 was the last year I see anything I like what so ever. So as many people have pointed out before 2007-2010 is about the period of the great decline. Everything post 2010 was a mistake.

> 1991 - SMW, Only Yesterday, Silence of the Lambs, Michael Jackson

i only remember stuff from 97 onwards, like real vividly. other than that it was a good year. and for me personally it went to shit around 07

2006 onwards was awful, Pan's Labyrinth is the one saving grace

For me? It's Sultry Summer.

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2006-2009 when nothing but Shonen garbage started winning

2012 for me i liked the last wave of CN shows before steven universe, also around that time i played la-mulana. The mayans were right.

A little over a year ago, actually.

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>not wanting to fuck both at once

t. moetranny

>tfw no Gwen gf

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She wouldn’t have jumped to getting the lube that quickly if she didn’t want to fuck

they all look like shit
these fucking faggots who make these movies and shows need to actually pick up a goddamn comic book. what they do is so intellectually shallow and soulless, it disgusts me on every level.

>code gayass aoty
post discarded

Have you actually watched it and given it a genuine chance?

>that one episode where she became a cocoon or something
I now know why always preferred Starfire.

user...

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Where’s your point?

>offering up something she knows is gonna get shot down
Coulda been offered to go to Disneyworld and option B is still the preferred

Ever consider that's exactly why I would want a Gwen gf?

Because Mobafags go for the easiest thing.

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We all know lolis defy standard rules of society

But Gwen was one year older than me when I first met her.

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t.Chang

guys, I'm about to drop my poke

Yes, she’s perfect, what’s your point?

thats because fighting games often use archaic design where you have to learn to do various difficult and inputs in order to do your basic bread & butter stuff, which serves no purpose except to slow down new players from being able to play the game the way it's meant to be played. normal people games just have "press w to cast lightning bolt" and all the actual gameplay comes from how, when and why you would use that move

you're acting like the basic inputs you want aren't already occupied by even simpler actions

t. robin

Its always zangeif players, in fact I think I played with one with that name once

>60 bucks
>Die within a few weeks
>If you don't buy at launch and practice everyday you'll get stomped by autistic faggots that play 24/7
Vs
>Free to play
>Low skill floor
>You'll always get paired with people of the same skill due to the high playerbase

Elf san wa waseranenai

For me, it's Sultry Summer as well.

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I want Raven to sit on my face.