Vidya opinions that legit make you mad

>It's a game, why do you feel emotional?

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The popularity directly equates to how good a game is / isn't.

>Guild Wars 2 is not a bad game

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>i dont want to look a dude's ass the whole game!
>females have more customization options
I dont get the persistence of these people, in every single game they play as girls, it infuriates me to a ludicrous amount and i dont know why

you will never pass

meanwhile I play with cock in hand and controllers were built to gentlemen who play with one hand busy

Wtf ate you even saying

You're probably getting frustrated at them lying to you over something so trivial instead of being their authentic selves. If you like playing as a cute girl just say that's what you like. The common excuses like the ones you quoted are always clearly bullshit

>he doesn't know the ascii grip
casual scum

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Also
>i didnt like sekiro because i cant level up and i only have 1 weapon
There are plenty of games where you dont level up and you cant switch weapons, are souls babies so fucking scared of something different?

>Games need microtransactions/lootboxes/games as a service to be viable as an industry
Its also a really good test to see if they're underage, because nobody who was around before all this shit started happening will defend it.

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"Turn based is fun"

Nigger only ending that made any sense was the bad ending and it was added in extended cut.

>females are human
Imagine being this retarded.

>there hasn't been a single decent game in over 10 years

"Kingdom hearts is good"

>you can change your gender

this but with early access.
To this day I don't understand why retards treat this label as something holy, even if it's been years and the game got some shitty updates since it came out in EA.

It amazes me that after more than half a decade, there are still people who think that the problem people had with the ending is "IT'S NOT HAPPY ENOUGH", instead of red/blue/green, the Starchild nonsense, the 2 minute resolution to 3 games worth of decisions, or that the ending screen was borderline traced from fucking deviantart.

>People who don't like color splash are TTYD babies who only want a TTYD rehash

NO YOU FUCKING CHIMP. COLOR SPLASH IS OBJECTIVELY A BAD FUCKING GAME BUT YOU LOVE SUCKING NINTENDO'S JAP TINY COCK AND TURN BLIND EYE TO THIS SHIT. GET OUT OF MY FAVORITE FUCKING SERIES YOU FUCKING TRANNIES.

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Seething Snoy

>Yea Forums is always right

>resetera always wins babe

>It's just a placeholder, it's not going to be in the release
every fucking time

>Dark Souls 2 is a good game

>A game should be balanced and fair
This greatly reduces my sense of accomplishment when I win.

>TF2 isnt dead

>cyberpunk 2077 is an rpg
No.

>just get better internet bro!

This
That is a an uninformed opinion based on only your experience with the game. You definitely didn't pay attention to the complaints made at the time.

"What reason is there to play this game?"
"The writing."
And the writing is almost always shit.

>Read a book if you want a good story

>game is in a never ending cycle of balancing patches
>anything fun is removed/nerfed until the whole experience is bland and boring
>but the balancing continues

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>hating something because it's popular

>"The writing."
AKA ideas presented in the game pander to my world view

Testu

Perfect balance is death

You get it. Here is your (You).

Whenever someone rates a game based on the story.

When people enjoy things I don't like I get filled with an absolute nuclear, white-hot rage and mass confusion as how they could be so inferior to my autistic ass. I get so mad sometimes I don't even call them out for real and just imaginary arguments in my head where I btfo everyone.

I also extremely dislike the mentality regarding microtransactions where its somewhere along the lines of
>They're only cosmetic so its okay
and
>If you don't like them then don't buy them
If the game was F2p to begin with I can sort of buy it, but often F2P do microtransactions in tandem with lootboxes which is a whole other beast. But I truly fucking loathe them on games which you would have already paid for.

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>Censorship makes games better, we don't need that pedophilic weebshit.

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>i hate change, old good, new bad, the specifics literally dont matter as long as something is old i'm going to consider it good, and as long as something is new or different, fuck it regardless of other qualities

This isn't an "opinion" that got me, but recently when I found out that Gravity Rush 2's online servers were shutdown after basically a year because of "cost" when it's owned by fucking Sony AND that they didn't create an offline way for players to unlock the online exclusive items like fucking costumes, effectively locking them away FOREVER for new players, I got real buttmad.

now I will never have this fucking comfy tanktop outfit

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>FFXIV has good story and music

it's shooped tho

>tfw no kat gf

>Undertale was a bad game because of the fanbase

If you hate Undertale for it's own merits, fine, but the fanbase should not form your opinion on a game no matter how autistic they are.

Yea Forums's simplistic black and white view is fucking annoying. If a game is shit, every aspect associated with it is also shit. Same goes in reverse - if Yea Forums celebrates a game, it is literally flawless. You can't even say anything against the objectively shitty voice acting in Deus Ex because DUDE ITS SUPPOSED TO BE SHIT AND ITS SO FUNNAY LE BOMBE XD

Turn based games are archaic and bad.

This is categorically wrong though. Good games have good fanbases and bad games have bad fanbases.

"The new BG3 will be great, because OS2 was great!"

There is no such thing as a good fanbase.

No fuck off, ME3 was irredeemable garbage. Anyone who played it at release, who was invested in the franchise and in their Shepherd got burned. Not because the ending was sad, but because it was shit.

There's a reason the (also garbage) indoctrination theory got so popular, it was a desperate attempt to at least make some sense of that shitshow.

This guy's shit opinion is making me angry.

>"This game/series is only good for the girls and the porn!"

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If it makes you feel better, they're a tiny but vocal minority.

If you went by the Yea Forums threads, everyone was playing FemShep because she had (apparently) better voice acting, and was hot and etc etc. Yet the stats came out and what do you know, 82% of the playerbase was MaleShep.

If you're referring to the nipple, well I wouldn't be able to CONFIRM IT FUCK AAAAA
as far as I know though the nipple is actually part of the costume.

>Japanese games don't pander to SJWs or focus on political/gender shit!

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I couldn't think of any opinions that particularly piss me off but then I read this one

>as long as it's only cosmetic :)

The Dark Souls fanbase is pretty good, if only because they embrace memebuilds and gatekeep aggressively.

I'll never not enjoy the absolute SEETHE people still have towards "git gud". It's amazing.

>What is Overwatch
>What is League of Legends
>What is Pokemon
>What is Danganronpa
This would be long list buddy.

>Assumed Shepherd was fucking dead.
>Good ending I liked it.
>It keeps going.
>Magic elevator appears
>Oh no...
>two games of autistic lore undone by a magic kid
>it was all grandpa stories

>Yea Forums's simplistic black and white view
It's called binary thinking and is very common in autistics and socially stunted people. You can find it on every board

>ME1 being better than ME2
>ME3 being better than literally anything
ME2 is the only good ME game and that's a fact. ME1 has a lot of potential, but the game is a janky mess

>it's good character design because anime titties

>It's acceptable to play a series in anything other than release order

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>duuuuude Japanese games are sooooo political
>what's that no I don't know what the ruling party of Japan is or what their ideology is despite the fact that 90% of the games I play are Japanese and apparently they are political

I'm sure those series have literally no reedeming qualities whatsoever and they're only good for masturbating
Careful not breaking your penis during your next fap session, coomer

Yea but they are still insufferably autistic. Plus Dark Souls isn't really that hard once you get used to the mechanics, and isn't that good of a game as they hype it up to be. Blighttown in particular, holy shit that lag is so fucking annoying.

me1 has better story and atmosphere, me2 has much better gameplay and somewhat streamlines the aids planet exploring which make it a better game, but I understand why people would like me1 more

>Everyone here is some retarded burger or muslim bong
Nice post

>platforming elements in an FPS instantly make the game bad
These people have never played TF2 deathrun servers

this one is special,its like these people dont think videogames are mediums

>This sequel has references to the first game so it's shit.
I swear to god the dark souls fanbase is the most unforgivably shit group of people in existence.

what is WoW

Still beats the way alot of western games handle politics. For example, Metal Gear Solids vs The Outer Worlds I'll take a nuanced stance over an overt one any day.

> gamepad is better for certain genres like ...

>it's good you just need to install these n+5 mods

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As much shit as I'll get for this, the absolute fag fest that spawned from TLOU was retarded.
>HURR WHY IS HIS DAUGHTER THAT HE CLEARLY LOVED DYING SUPPOSED TO BE SAD?! *I* ONLY KNEW HER FOR 10 MINUTES.
Genuine fucking autism of the highest caliber, you're not expected to give a shit about her, you're supposed to feel bad FOR HER FUCKING DAD.
Same retards that didn't understand the ending, I'll bet my fucking brain on it.

any time people say that features in old game that were clearly due to hardware limitations are actually good design choices that make the game "more challenging and soul", even if the fucking developers themselves admitted it's bullshit or even fixed it in later releases (like Banjo Kazooie not saving the notes you collected after death).

For me, they are completely not worth playing but fan-art is great.

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>3rd birthday was a good game

Yes I've also read wikipedia and know what their ruling party is. I've never ever heard it or its ideology mentioned in any games. You can play every Japanese game out there and assume that they are ruled by a president rather than a party that appoints a prime minister when it feels like it.

Dark souls 2 was destroyed by it's patches.

This is the dumbest implication and the stupidest thing on this board. Yes, the game has to be fun. If a game is not fun, it doesn't get finished.

Then play a different game, loser.

I liked ME2 but they fucked up the whole series. The trilogy should have been:

>Keep ME1 the same
>ME2: no collectors bullshit. instead, you spend the game uniting the galaxy and prepping for the reaper invasion like the loyalty missions in ME3
>ME3: you spend the game fighting the reapers following clues to find ancient weapons and tech

Somebody take one for the team and hit him with a moving vehicle.

>The Dark Souls fanbase is pretty good
Jesus christ no. They don't even like the games they obsess over.

>PW is a good MGS game
No it's not, the AI is dogshit, there's no variety in gameplay, major established stealth features are missing, most importantly the trademark MGS attention to detail is not present. It's only good if you've never played a stealth game before and have zero expectations

>insisting on keyboard and mouse for everything

Yes.

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If you interpret FUN in a literal way, you can disagree with your statement. For example, being horrified isn't exactly FUN but it will keep fans of horror games playing. There are many emotion people play games for and FUN is just one of them.

>That entire thread trying to base the premise that PW was somehow better than MGSV so retarded contrarians can pretend they have a say.
The fact that people get that contrarian is disgusting

this
>skyrim is good with mods
What mods? Those thousand enb and texture mods make gamebryo look prettier but there's still nothing to do in the game. I still haven't found a single quest mod that isn't complete trash.

>game is objectively shallow and not well made
>had several development issues and you can see how much was scrapped despite a full year of delay
>overpriced on release with shady 0 info pre-order Season Pass
>so many red flags that you could hide the sun with it

>"It's a good game because I like it and it's fun to me"

"Yes"

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>NOOOO EVERYTHING IN THIS SINGLE PLAYER GAME NEEDS TO BE BALANCED PERFECTLY BECAUSE I'M AN AUTISTIC COMPFAG WHO CAN'T KEEP HIMSELF FROM USING ANYTHING BUT THE MOST POWERFUL OPTIONS AT ALL TIMES

This always makes Yea Forumsirgins seethe. Well done user.

This. The meat of the game isn't any better than Portable Ops, and the game mechanics, while greatly smoother, don't offer any new depth either.

>Oh, you don't like [mechanic]? You're just bad and don't know how to work around it.

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I have no friends nor family. I envy you user

This is the fucking worst.
"Man this game is great"
"Yeah but X is broken and if you leash enemies and cheese them you can beat them easily"
"...Then don't do that? You know when you're abusing exploits to beat something, don't do it"
"UMMMMMM CLEARLY THE DEVS MEANT FOR THIS TO BE A THING, I'M NOT CRIPPLING MYSELF BY NOT USING THIS EXPLOIT"
And then they complain the game was too easy/tedious.
Fuck those faggots

>all Americans are dumb
I don't care where you live, kill yourself.

>Try to talk to someone here about BoTW
>Ask if they played any other zelda games, try to recommend some
>"Why the fuck would I play those? They are so fucking old, BoTW is the only one I've played, by the way."

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Spoiler, there are no good games only the one you like.
Nothing is objective or absolute.

I see this in every DMC or Bayonetta thread.
It's also happening a lot in MHW threads because of those insufferable hunt time metafags.

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The only zelda games I've played are oot and botw. I dropped oot when link becomes an adult out of boredom and I dropped botw 3 minutes in because I didn't like the controls.

If that mechanic isn't properly explained or is legitimately annoying, then fuck them.

Mass Effect in general is just a poor man's Star Control 2.

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English isn't your primary language.

>no I don't want to play this because I might have to think for more than two seconds per hour to play this game

>I only like acclaimed game approved by Yea Forums
Unironically sad. Every normal human has guilty pleasures. A shit game could have a world that you love for some personal reason. It could have an atmosphere that your love. It could have one just one mechanic that appeals to you so much it overrides everything else.

I like playing as girls. The reason I like playing as girls is because when I play as a girl, I enjoy it more than if my character was a man.
Cope.

>30 FPS is fine
30 FPS is something to deal with, not settle for. 60 should be the minimum (or the ideal in a few choice cases) someone should settle for.

EXACT reason people shit on cookie cutter 3x3
If you ONLY like games approved by your handlers you're no better than those normalfaggots you complain about.

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No it's not, that's why I look up definitions. Look at this, would you describe the experience of being horrified as "enjoyment, amusement or light-hearted pleasure"?

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Should I refer you as she/her pronouns now?

>Gacha games are real games
FUCK OFF YOU WHALE PIECE OF SHIT SPENDING MONEY ON JPGS IS CALLED BEING A PAYPIG KEK NOT PLAYING VIDEO GAMES YOU FUCKING SACK OF SHIT PUT A BULLET THROUGH YOUR BRAIN WHALE FUCK

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I don't get mad at opinions. I get mad when people act as though their opinions are facts.

>trial and error gameplay
This term is never used in a neutral or positive fashion and it drives me up the fucking wall with anger. I think the opinion that you should be able to always have forewarning of something in a game if it can kill you is a bitch ass cope for lacking reaction time or problem solving skills.

>being horrified isn't exactly FUN
Explain Halloween antics.

If the person enjoys, is amused by, or gets light-hearted pleasure from being horrified, yes.

Interesting take.

I only play as a girl if the class is something not physical like mage, archer or something that wont look stupid and impossible with a sword or heavy armor

if you play a gacha to gain the currency and unlock the content it has, then you actually play it

paying is a shortcut to avoid playing, so whaling in a gacha is dumb

>game bad because of fanbase
>fantasy game bad because story make no sense like wuuuut? that not real life
>game bad because it look like anime
>game bad because soundtrack bad

So you choose to stretch the definition to a point where literally everything that you like can be described as fun? Then the word loses all meaning. "It's fun" just means "I like it" at that point. Why use this pointless word?

>82% of the playerbase was male
This means nothing. It's a video game, you're not permanently locked in as male Shep.
All those faggots who played femshep played maleshep first, and also appear in those statistics. How else can you accurately say that the voice acting is better throughout if you didn't play both?

Why are you getting mad? It’s just a video game.

>its a BETA!
>Fallout after 3 is about wandering!
>You don't get Skyrim! It's about EXPERIENCE!
>Red Alert 3 is bad because its cartoony!
>If you do not work around shitty RNG mechanics you are a casual!

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Because niggers don't want to learn how to play before they can progress. Any fail state is lighting "this game is bad because i'm always right" circuit in their brain. Give those fags NES with contra and see their reaction.

You believe all synonyms should be abolished?

mgs isnt nuanced
it's not annoying because "war bad" and "nukes scary" is a more fundamentally universal belief than "technicolor alphabet people are the strongest in the world" or "mentally unstable self-abusive people are heroes and should be respected"
granted even that isnt really the issue since those flavors of politics are rarely the main deal of the game and are usually just brought up because devs nowadays are compromised and cant make games without blaring their opinions on social media. the modern political opinions are what people dont want to hear about.
granted I dont play AAA because I'm not a bitch so it could be more heavily influencing game plots, which shouldn't matter because games are toys first, narrative media/art second and third

They are better, you fuck.

>lacking reaction time
nigger, this is clearly not the issue if something is genuinely an example of "trial and error gameplay".
Take a look at this level from Ecco the Dolphin, a prime example of some of the bullshit difficulty older games loved.
youtube.com/watch?v=PHlNKzAL1TA
There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to pass this level besides extraordinary luck to make a series of correct GUESSES, or just dying over and over until you memorise the perfect route.
This is what ACTUAL trial and error gameplay looks like, and it's horseshit.

Well luckily that game was shit so it doesn't matter.

>muh environmental storytelling
>muh atmosphere
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

niggers who don't play games in release order

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I mean, I don't disagree but the autism surrounding his daughter was retarded and only showcased how brutally autistic people are here.

Your post is defending choices like Fallout 76.
Now that's real fucking sad.

>lacking reaction time
This requires forewarning to work. Like how stepping on a pressure plate that activates a trap behind you isn't actually trial and error gameplay but people will still call it that. People are just morons.
>step on obvious raised block you werent looking for
>literally hear a mechanism start working
>hear the arrows get shot at you
During every step you can conceivably instantly nullify the threat.
Real trial and error is like walking down a pretty normal hallway and then the floor collapses killing you instantly.

Play Rocket League with MK and tell me how it goes

FUCK OFF YOU TOOL!

Notice I said reaction time OR problem solving? If it's unreactable on the first go, then you problem solve and know what to do next. It's like solving a puzzle. There's absolutely no reason you're entitled to pass the level on your first try, zoomie.

"Heh if I name game people don't like I win"

>most preferred ending always was destruction, the "saddest" one
>yeh ppl didnt liek teh ending bcuz it wuz sad nad they wantd a happi xdddd
the level of pure, unbridled faggotry on these two post is off the charts

People weren't mad it wasn't a happy ending, the entire thing made absolutely zero sense, destroyed previously established lore, characters doing and saying things that made no sense, and it just didn't provide a satisfying conclusion.

Most preferred that ending because that's the only ending shepherd actually lives, which actually supports their point.
Synth ending is basically a utopia though, the only thing is it requires shep to die for no reason.

>game has a meta that everyone follows
>large portions of the game's content are untouched because they are objectively weaker
>tryhards defend this and have an autistic meltdown on forums when the meta is finally nerfed

I hate this shit

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>singleplayer game has multiplayer elements
>multiplayer has exclusive shit behind it
>server shutdown
>never makes the exclusive stuff obtainable in singleplayer
>exclusive items now gone forever
fuck this shit

>problem solving
>this path is a dead end and if you go into it, you die, the solution is to know not to go there
>problem solved!
Wow, what fantastic fucking gameplay.
If your knowledge of the game's mechanics and parameters is perfect, it should indeed be possible to beat every level first time. Actual precognition should never be required because this isn't engaging, it doesn't involve skill, it doesn't test anything you've learned about the game fundamentally, it just wastes your fucking time.
>It's like solving a puzzle
A Rubik's Cube doesn't automatically reset to a random configuration if you make one wrong move. A jigsaw puzzle doesn't scramble the pieces if you make a mistake. These are errors which you may lack sufficient information to recognise before making them, but they don't put you back to square one. Old games waste your time because they're short and if they weren't full of bullshit they would be over in four hours and couldn't sell for more than pocket change.

>game has a meta
raged right there

>early access games are good because we get them early and can help fix all the bugs
If you gave me a choice between a complete and polished videogame experience that I have to wait a long time for and a years-long beta test full of bugs and unfinished content, I would choose the actually fucking finished game every single time.
On top of that, a finished game should include QA and beta testing as part of the development cycle, in a highly controlled environment that doesn't compromise the development process. Virtually every early access game I have played has suffered from the same core problem: when literally every player is beta testing your game it becomes almost impossible to discern constructive gameplay design feedback and bug fixes from the cacophony of screaming retards and actual children demanding you pander to them specifically.

Player feedback is a useful tool, obviously, but intellectually-crowdsourced videogame development is a recipe for disaster.
Most of the people who are vocal videogame-related internet personalities are also massive fucking speds.

>game has a meta that everyone follows
>large portions of the game's content are untouched because they are objectively weaker
>literally everyone including the devs pretend this isn't true, the items are balanced! Balance isn't decided by meta!
>complains loudly in chat and the forums and calls for your immediate ban when you use one of these offmeta picks

Wow, what fantastic fucking gameplay.
Yes.

>game has a meta
>everyone uses the meta to beat the AI in single player and jokes about how incompetent the AI is
>eventually the AI gets updated to also use the meta
Fucking infuriating. I wish metafags would just stick to a few "hardcore" games and fuck off from my comfy strategy games so I can win with unorthodox moves.

this guy's retarded opinion

I'm sure whatever language is your primary one is void of any extended implications in terminology, void of idiomatic expression, and is meant to be understood from the context of literal translation.

>ARCHERS ARE A WEAK CLASS FOR WOMEN HI I'VE NEVER TRIED TO PULL A BOW STRING IN MY LIFE
You've watched too much fantasy, retard user. This is the physique a realistic fantasy archer would have

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Metas are fucking garbage but I'm not sure how you avoid one forming. Players are amazing at taking the fun out of a game in the name of optimization.

>Easy difficulty
>Skip cutscenes
>Mash 1 attack
>Yeah I finished it it only took the weekend it was boring as fuck

You should be aware that perception of how something is strong is more important than actual strength. Meta-slavery is a thing for a reason.

When you nitpick a minor flaw in an otherwise fine game and the other person blows up like you've just said the worst possible thing that you could've said about it.
>This game is too easy. I like this other game instead. Same genre but more of a challenge.
>"That game is supposed to be for beginners, but it's deeper than you would know! You're supposed to play it in a stupid and convoluted fanfic playstyle if you want a challenge! Go play a crappy RNG roguelike if you want to get your teeth kicked in for a hundred hours!!"

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When this started being commonplace I realized I was the casual gamer the whole time.

Metafags aren't pros, they're just tryhards

Ironic that you crackers are the main ones that do this then.

>shieldless, naked, no magic, fists is the only acceptable way to play

Boring.

This is what happens when someone who doesn't like RPGs gets talked into it by a friend.
t. have tried to talk friends who don't like RPGs into playing them.

You can apply same thing to any fanatic behavior, you don't discuss with those people.
The problem is you don't know who is retarded before they start spewing shit out their orifices.

>not sure how you avoid one forming
ban anyone with a win% above 70, never publish this fact and find a way to have plausible deniability about it.

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This shit happens in most RPG threads.
>user, the game isn't hard, just use this overpowered build
And then Anons will shit on you for not using that easy mode build.

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does it count as playing on easy if "normal" is the lowest difficulty?

>Metafags aren't pros, they're just tryhards
The opposite of casual isn't limited to "pro", it includes anybody who gets autistically invested in the process, especially when that investment consequently leads to people not having fun.

Mostly normalfag wageslaves do this because they have few hours a day at best to play.

This, some people say the start of Fallout 2 is too hard - coincidentally, this is partially because the objectively best builds for Fallout 1 (Gifted, High IN, low ST/EN) completely gimp you for the first couple of towns of Fallout 2. But I think it's better to let those people struggle through at least the start of Fallout 2, though they tend to be the same people who complain when the difficulty eases off later on (because their build becomes viable after gaining a few levels and finding locations where their advantages are worth a damn).

Assasins creed is a good franchise

Anyone actually avoid following the meta, even going against it in an attempt to challenge yourself? I do this shit all the time in FPS, at the cost of my k/d though.

nobody says this

>NOOO YOU CAN'T PLAY SMOKE WITH AN SMG AND SHIELD, YOU HAVE TO USE SHOTGUN AND ATTACK PEOPLE THROUGH CEILINGS/FLOORS

>I'm not sure how you avoid one forming

actively monitor forums and ingame stats, then nerf strategies that lead to a disproportionately high success rates. it's not hard, the hard part is managing the rage of the autistic metafags when you do implement changes

>man how did you not know where this was or how to beat that boss, wow user
>you should've just used a guide like me

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based

i only tolerate that in 5th gen games because 60fps was nearly impossible to achieve without making huge compromises. anything after that has no excuse.

>user, the game isn't hard, just use this overpowered build
I don't mind this too much. Being told that you need to grind or overstock on healing items for the game to not be cheap-hard is the red flag for me.

You'll get fooled by the fact that casual meta and competitive meta are often at odds - advantages the top players can exploit are just too high skill for typical shitters who nonetheless will screech on forums.
See Bastion at Overwatch's launch, literally a character that cannot move in their primary attack form, yet shitters complained about him being OP because they were bad at the game. And lo and behold, Bastion was nerfed. But balancing the game just around pros is also bad, since obviously the vast majority of your userbase simply isn't that good.
So it's basically an unwinnable problem unless you're lucky enough that casual meta and pro meta align in exactly the same way, which would indicate a major oversight in balancing.

The problem is you will literally always have a dominate strategy no mater what you do. SOMETHING will always give you an edge, no matter how slight.

The way you make metas not happen is to forego traditional balance in lieu of chaos. You can let everything be overpowered but only in highly specific situations and only in such a way that everybody can fuck over everybody else.
If your game is balanced by tweaking timing and damage numbers, eventually somebody is going to figure out the best strategy for the current numbers.
If your game is balanced by mechanical interactions, even without being full-on rock paper scissors, it is a lot harder to find a strategy that isn't completely upended by a different strategy. If a meta then forms because players are crafty and you didn't consider some possibilities, you can go on to destroy that meta without directly nerfing the strategy itself.

Most of the hate Pathfinder Kingmaker gets. It's often incorrectly presented or something that has been fixed. I honestly don't understand it. It's to the point where I just avoid any discussion on it since people have an odd hate towards it. There's definitely problems with it just not what the big discussion is
He's a bad guy. Stealing someone's love project and cramming his politics in it. I don't know how people like that can be happy.

No, that's the physique for a battlefield archer. Those guys would be pulling on bows meant to launch arrows as far as possible.
An adventurer would use lighter, easier to pull bows and they won't be joining actual battles. Hell in real life I was taught how to use a bow when I was 14. So even a child can pull back a bow enough to kill someone.

Thing is, for consoles, 60 FPS means compromising on graphics, and for the last 40 or so years "graphics" has been the number one buzzword to try and objectively say a game is good. If you have to choose between 60 FPS and low graphical quality, or 30 FPS and high graphical quality, the market is simply more inclined to favour the latter.
So as always the problem is that consumers are retarded, devs just follow the money, which is completely fair.

Not really a hot take but man i'm so mad that some of my favorite games have dead online due to sub 100 daily players

This never works. It's been tried a million times and I've never seen it work. There's always one "main" build that gets used all the time, and then a few "gimmick" builds that will occasionally beat the main build or each other but are statistically worse overall.

Balance ruined Dreadfire and Overwatch.

>30 FPS and high graphical quality
Lmao.
This gen still struggles to hit 30 at times. Ideally games for consoles should be built with the hardware in mind but that will never happen.

So TF2?

I know a real archer would need to be in great shape but it a weapon that fit more a women body in a fantasy game

>every archer is a longbowman
it's perfectly possible to design a bow that a typical-strength woman can use effectively, the same is not true for swords or axes or whatever.

>Gamers are spoiled/entitled
Holy shit, this makes me see red every time. I've only seen this sentiment among vidya fans, it'd be unthinkable in anything else

I think it's kinda funny that it upsets you to hear that ME1 is better than ME2 when ME2's story accomplishes nothing on the narrative whole, you end where you began, and Shep never used the camera footage from Freedom's Progress to show the council "hey, look, collectors. I have visual proof of collectors."

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It's just a more modern way of saying that video games are for kids. It's disrespect, plain and simple.

>There are no good/amazing modern games

/vr/ needs to fuck off. Yes we all like pre 7th gen games but my god you are stuck in the past. There are a lot of games that came out after the late 2000s/2010s

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>Story in video games is bad by default
Granted, only a fringe minority are this deluded.

any other games with these kind of hips

English longbowmen were an anomaly, not the rule.

>any non-Souls game
>"git gud"

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Because the vast majority are indeed tacked on and poorly written. It takes endurance to still have the patience to sit through vidya stories after having already heard a hundred shit ones, and not just think "oh, it's probably bad, I'll skip the cutscenes".
I'm not agreeing with the sentiment that stories are bad by default, but in vidya, stories are bad more often than not. Shit like Star Control 2 with a genuinely first-rate story that isn't too blunt, or too understated, or too pretentious, or too braindead is rare.

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What's up with condile wars? I've never understood it and it's weird knowing adults participate in them. Is it all done with an ironic undertone?
I genuinely dislike it. Brand loyalty is disgusting.

Bruh, why is your hand black, user?

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Just basic tribalism shit built into our genes which modern society discourages so people find outlets in unusual places. This is also why people passionately support sports teams.

> MM Starforce is bad
Fuck you all you tasteless niggers

Bloodline champions being worse than battlerite

>Tetris 99 is good.

>sekiro is better than any of the souls games or bb

Nobody cares that you're black except for DFACS.

>story was better in ME1
>combat was better in ME3
>ME2 had...
Mordin perhaps? I'm not even sure.
It's also funny considering that we could have just ignored the collectors and gone straight for ME3. The Human reaper was a single reaper, we kill all of them collectively in 3 and several of them just by shooting them real good.
The timeframe would have actually been better for everyone as a whole, considering the reapers go directly for your homeplanets during the actual invasion.
We literally spent YEARS on the collector problem only to find out that the collectors were 100% ignorable and the human colonies would have been destroyed anyway during the actual reaper invasion.

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why isn't it?

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Reeeee I shouldn't have to limit myself!!!!!!

He is right. Overwatch porn is better than the game.

Yo. What do we have here? A huge space craft pulling up to the Cockship? Yo! What are those letters I see? N I G G A, S, DOT X X X?!

People defending developer incompetence and sucking down whatever delays or missing features come their way

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>i dont play single player games cause theres no point

kill yourself

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>because nobody who was around before all this shit started happening will defend it.
Speaking as someone who grew up in an arcade?
They're completely right, and you're too stupid to realize you grew up with similar shit delivered in a different format.

Video game companies would intentionally hide content within their games that you could only access if you had knowledge from secondary products such as strategy guides, monthly subscriptions, or an "in" with the arcade owner to filter you cheat codes or secrets. Mortal Kombat's use of Fatalities was a specifically popular case of this. NBA Jam was also a particularly egregious offender in this.
There's a really good reason Nintendo Power isn't released anymore; it's because with the advent of sites like IGN, their method of content delivery was completely undermined and it was no longer possible to have a system to profit off of video game secrets as all that information was freely documented and readily available.

The reality is that a lot of these companies lost their secondary income because of this, which is why microtransactions became a thing; Because it let them do what they were already trying to do all along.

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>I only buy online multiplayer and pirate all single player because what's the point

This is how they justify it.

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I've played BOTW and really enjoyed it. I've also tried the first one Phantom Hourglass and OOT when I was a kid.
What Zelda game should I play? The only one I tried recently was the first one didn't enjoy it.

Only in your shitty "brain" would you think this was an insult to leverage. There are just as many pictures of negresses bowing down to white cock, but unlike you, I don't save shit like this to my computer, you pathetic bitch.

this and also
>games need to go up from 60 dollars cuz muh inflation
for the most profitable entertainment industry in history

I have a friend that cares about aesthetic so much he won't play many games. Anything "cartoony" and old. He even quit AoE2 because of the graphics.
Cool guy bad taste

>RNG
>Overly complicates a simple game like Tetris
>Doesn't explain anything
>Loses for you

>character A does 47000 dmg and have zero utility
>character B does 46900 dmg, can self heal, buff allies and help you survive 99% of content
>character A is meta
>character B isn't
>people will make fun of you for using character B instead A
Metaslaves are mentally ill.

It's happening in film too. Just look at ST Picard.

FE3H threadswere full of this. The game is ezpz too very silly.

Retarded nigger, there's nothing to seethe about.

>server browsers were too much of a hassle, matchmaking is far more convenient
>if this multiplayer game doesn’t pander to competitive players, it’s a bad game
>Minecraft has good combat before 1.9
>thinking that paying for online is in any way shape or form defendable

>"It got too popular, its fanbase is awful, I'm not playing this game because of its fans ruined it for me"
>Different game gets just as popular and develops just as shitty a fanbase but they're an early adopter who bought it before it got popular
>ask why they like this game despite its fanbase
>"The fanbase isn't that bad, certainly not as bad as the fanbase of [game I haven't played]"
A friend does this all the fucking time. Likewise
>Hates anything if people talk about it to him too much
>Is an extremely autistic Zelda Lorefag and brings it up at every available opportunity

>puzzle games are casual baby shit and not worth $30, let alone $60
>matchmaking is a good thing and community servers are just for boomers
>[insert game] is bad because it's cringe bro
>the spyro and crash remakes are good

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TF2
>pompon and bison are fucking unusable as they nerfed the shit out of the hit box
>hydridknight getting mostly gutted by reworking the claid for no reason and nerfing switch speed to swords (thank god they reverted the former)
>sandman, while the stun wasn’t fun to fight, at least was usable compared to now
There’s a lot more I’m forgetting but those are the ones I can think of on the top of my head

>the spyro and crash remakes are good
What the fuck is wrong with them?
Don't tell me you unironically believe the soulless meme.

>let people like what they like

>[insert game] is bad because it's cringe bro
That's just shitposting. You can ignore that user

See

You can ignore obvious baits? No way!
(You) whoring is addiction.

stop larping underage.

I literally have 3 arcade machines in my basement, you retard.

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>>"It's a good game because I like it and it's fun to me"

I think Castlevania 64 is fun. At least for me. I enjoy its flaws and charm. I know for a Castlevania game its trash but I like the attempt

None of them make me mad, but the "everything is fun with friends" response does make me genuinely go WTF whenever I see it.

That's probably why he thinks you're underaged.

The soulless meme is a dumb meme created by retards who don't understand how to have meaningful discussion. But among other things,
>art direction of the remakes is fucked six ways from sunday
>crash remakes have the pillbox+incredibly high deathplane issue
>spyro 2/3 remakes are just as ugly as 1's remake but also buggy as fuck and clearly rushed on top of that
>That's just shitposting
You'd think so, but you'd be surprised. Anti-KHfags always bust this out like it means fuck all.

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>Xenoblade, TWEWY, Dark Souls, FFXII-XV, Kingdom Hearts, etc. aren't JRPGs! "JRPG" means "turn-based"!

>TFW I've only played 2 games on that.
Sometimes I don't think I'm a real gamer.

The critical line here is
>it let them so what they were already trying to do
Which is completely true, but it's so much more transparent and blatant now. There was a veneer of "gameyness" before, for lack of a better word. Buying a strategy guide didn't feel all that different to talking with your friend who beat the game already about what to do next. Devs have gotten better and better at nickel and dimeing players, and the way they've done that is by getting more and more explicit about it, so it's... raw. The lack of any "distance" between forking out money and getting more content that could easily be included for free makes it feel like you're being milked.

Its even better when there is a build to explicitly counter the Meta and doesnt work any other way. Watching people get upset about it is great

Morrowind

He thinks I'm underage because I took my family's old arcade equipment after they closed shop?
How does that make sense?

I've posted 10 times in this thread and have gotten one (you).

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seethe

It has its place, and that isnt in main line baldurs gate games.

The learning part is the fun part.
You have grown to hate games and only get pleasure from "finishing" them. What you do doesnt matter to you anymore. You just want to get it over with.

Skyrim

>it deleted its post

LMAO

That depends on how many difficulties there are. If there are more than two, then you can't play on the lowest difficulty unless it is an extraordinarily difficult game.

This. My miracle build went to shit

>matchmaking is a good thing and community servers are just for boomers
god damn I hate the proliferation of matchmaking so much

>"its just cosmetics"
>Not only do they cost absurd amounts of money but they clash against the artstyle as well

Have another, but we should both firewall Yea Forums for our own good.

Really what happens is that the game just becomes a vehicle for getting retards to buy cosmetics. All game changes are made in service to this.

I'm not saying it's good or bad. I'm not here to make any normative claims on the matter. Frankly, I think it's tacky and tasteless.
But I'm also trying to illustrate is that the rise of microtransactions and the death of strategy guides are directly related, and that developers are trying to fill a void of income that no longer exists.

The question you need to ask yourself is "Did devs need to sell strategy guides in the first place?". And if they did, then you should understand why microtransactions took their place.

thats game journalist spin and you know it.

There is shit in the ending that doesn't make any goddamn sense, like why Joker would already be trying to escape. No one even knew what the goddamn device did. Mac Walters and Casey Hudson did a 2 man hackjob without consultation on the ending when the original ending got leaked. What we got was a baffling 'we organics built AI so that when Organics were about to make AI, our AI would kill the organics so their AI wouldnt kill the organics" horseshit.

Also, lets not act like everything pre-ending was any good either. Did you forget the Grunt mission or TIM mission being 99% identical regardless of your answer to the most important choices of ME1 and ME2? Remember how the rachni queen arc was pointless? Remember Kai Leng?

>zelda is good
die

>it's still replying

Protip, brownie, calling me white isn't an insult.

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>play as healer in MMOs
>Friend plays DPS
>Doing endgame content
>Tells me that I'm taking things too seriously and that I need to relax
>Also tells me that Healing and Tanking is too much work so he never wants to do it.

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People seething about unrealistic stuff in video games

It's impossible for a woman to beat up a man.

>Purposefully making movement or camera awkward in horror is forced difficulty and bad design

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why...

>Gameplay is the only thing that matters, everything else is irrelevant
This is how you spot an absolute brainlet

>Making playing a game feel like shit is good
Listen to yourself.
Those things only exist because devs were restricted by tech or retarded.

god I hear this constantly in MH threads it actually annoys the fuck out of me. Why cant people just enjoy things instead of focusing on autistic minmaxing?

>artificial difficulty

Fucking this but not mmo's. Took me forever to figure out a solution. I found it stems from the fact they never have to learn the game because your always compensating for their fuck ups as a healer. Also possible they are only playing because you are interested in the game and they wouldn't bother to play, let alone learn a game unless your playing.

Real thing, bad term

>[insert single-player game here] should go open world!
>turn-based combat is outdated/only a product of technological limitations
>single-player games aren't worth any money
>gacha """games""" aren't cash grabs and you're a "lucklet" if you disagree
>read a book if you care about story/characters
>doing mental gymnastics to excuse nintendo or valve for doing something that any other company would be ripped to shreds for
>indies are the only good games and you're a "aaa shill" if you disagree
>souls shit and/or nintendo shit are the only good japanese games

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why does it matter?

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Chronological order or bust

I think half of those are baits

>bits
>ghz
>teraflops
It's so stupid how everyone fall for those retarded meme numbers.

>MH was never niche
>MH was never challenging
>MH never had good music
>MH was only ever difficult because of the shitty controls
I hate everything this series has become from the games to the community, I'm just going to close the thread now because I know some console warrior fuck is going to come at me despite me hating most of the nintendo games
/rant

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This will be my first Yakuza game

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Personally I just like seeing weebs go into a rage in those threads. it's funny as hell.

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Okay but the problem is you cannot divorce a fanbase this fervent from the game. Part of the fun of video games is talking about them with other people, that's why we're here on Yea Forums, but in undertale's case all ground has been tread, all characters have been lewded, and all shitposting and meming have been done to the point that people are sick and tired of the mere mention of it, which is hilariously ironic if you remember what the genocide path was about.

On top of that, if you have friends who see you playing the game, they're so invested in the characters that they will try to backseat game your decisions on a blind playthrough of the game. A fanbase CAN ruin a game.

And I stand by it. Uncharted is made to play like Indiana Jones interactive movie, make you feel agile and powerful. RE4 is supposed to convey vulnerability and tension, camera and controls support that.

>story bad = game bad
Half of the time, it involves games where the story isn't even that bad but if it's not on par with or even better than the fan favorite game, then the story is bad and by default, the game is bad.

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I go fucking mental when I see humanizations of GLaDOS.
It triggers me to no end

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>Japan good
>rest of the world bad

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Watching someone play a videogame is the same experience as playing it yourself
Big fan of GAME never played it myself though

I refuse to believe this happens

When people say Dark Souls 2 is good

>if you won’t play the meta, you shouldn’t play the game
Fuck off nigger. If I’m having fun I don’t give a single fuck about anyone else. I bought the game for ME to have fun. Not to help you have fun lmao.

>Streaming services like OnLive and Stadia are "The future of gaming"
>Denuvo DRM is fine
>Backwards compatibility is not necessary
>Emulation should be illegal, despite the fact that there are a lot of good games that have either terrible re-releases or no re-releases at all and cannot be played today without emulation
>"VR has nothing of worth", from people who have clearly never tried VR in any meaningful capacity and think google cardboard is the same as having an actual dedicated PC headset
>Every game needs to have political worth to it and can never, ever be just enjoyed apolitically
>Japanese games are all pedoshit
>"Comfy" video gaming is a thing that is worth basedboy wojak mockery

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>Sonic was never good
People are probably memeing but I know there's some out there that actually think that.

>I really liked portal, wonder what creative things fans came up with
>anime humanizations

I can’t say it’s the case for all Sonic Games but I played the first couple and I think they were awful.

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>Shitty character gets a potentially really good tool from a patch
>Balance team takes it away next patch because it goes against their intended design

Balance mods >>>>>>>>>Patches

>People posting that you have to play a game in release order

Nah senpai. Fuck that. I played Dragon Quest 1 and Final Fantasy 1, but NOBODY likes DQ 2 or FF2. They are the worst games in their respective series and I will be skipping them. Also, there are often times where the first and second game are dated, such as the first two rune factories. I will skip those. If there's no story connection outside of a reference or two and trying to play the originals will stop me from playing the rest of the series, why bother? This is a ship opinion to have, especially when you're trying to get someone INTO the series, not scare them away. If someone wants to get into a series like Disgaea I recommend the 2nd or 5th game. Not the first, and I'm certainly not going to demand they play 3 or 4 because those games fucking suck. Don't you ever tell me to start playing at the first game if it sucks again.

>dies 100 times with your favorite thing
>someone suggestions he pick something better/easier
>"dude I'm just having fun lol, fuck your meta"
No one cares if your not using meta. They care you fucking suck using whatever the hell you picked and are tanking your teammates efforts to accomplish anything.

any tier list in Super Smash Bros.

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it's sells good so it must be good bro

Nipples aren't a shoop. They're on several outfits including the red dress.

This game is all sorts of great, and I'm still really upset they took down the servers. I got all outfits but it's sad that others can't.

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What do you want or expect out of the game? I can’t understand people like you. You hate literally everything but insist video games are your hobby but everything is shit/trash/garbage anyway. If you hate games don’t play. If you hate Skyrim don’t play it.
STOP PLAYING GAMES YOU HATE AND WASTING YOUR LIFE BEING MAD

>If I’m having fun I don’t give a single fuck about anyone else
Reported. Play single player shitter.

It makes me seethe to no end without fault

THIS.
Games are not about fun, they're supposed to be a visual narrative EXPERIENCE

>game is too old, won't play it
>Metroid Prime and/or Metroid Prime 2 are bad
>Donkey Kong 64 is a bad game
Not an opinion, but it really irritates me when people buy a game to support the franchise, even if the game is terrible.

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Yeah how dare someone like a game and have fun with it. What a fuckin LOSER enjoying that game he’s having fun with. Bey he’s not even having REAL fun. Just fake manufactured fun.

>Metroid Prime 2 are bad
It's awful, fuck you

user shut the fuck up. Fps doesn’t fucking matter if a game is good or not. Seriously, if that’s the dealbreaker for you, I hope you kill yourself. I can’t understand how many frames pop up in a second is the deciding factor on if you like a game.

>Turn-based combat is bad/outdated
>Mgs4 is good

Congratulations, you just might be the most retarded subhuman to ever post on this forsaken website.

A game can still be flawed or show red flags and still be a fun game, accepting flaws in things you love is just a part of the deal.
Kirby's Air Ride for example is pretty shallow in terms of single player offerings, but as a couch party game it's one of the most fun games I've ever played with my friends.

cause there's only one proper way to enjoy a thing, dummy

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>mass effect 2 was a bad game
no it fucking wasn't

If you're not going to play the game the way it's meant to by the people who made it, just donwload some cheat software and "stroll through a game" at your own leasure, you tremendous flaming faggot.

A meta is the peak in strategy or gameplay to maximize efficiency and winning. If you think every game that has one is bad, you don’t play games. EVERY game has a meta.

Ah yes. The bait thread. For user. The bait thread specifically made for user.

>hollow knight is good

fuck YOU

ME2 is my favorite, mostly because of characters but why did they have to gut RPG elements so hard is beyond me.

>The 7th generation is worse than the current generation
Service games weren't commonplace so it's automatically better. I don't know why retards spout this meme.

Thats not what he said at all user..

People thinking Persona 5 is a perfect game when it has mad flaws and becomes mega unfun after the first like 10 hours

I hate seething bing bings like you.

>WW is the best Zelda

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>randomly generated content can be good or make a game better

only exclusions are roguelites

FUCK BLOODBORNE CHALICE DUNGEONS THEY RUIN THE GAME

and people wonder why they hamfist multiplayer in every single fucking game nowadays.

>gaymer
Hope ur ironic

>"this new game we barely know anything about is trash because some fringe youtube personality said so"

>ME2 is the only good ME game
If you like Gears of Wars where you run from one cover to the next making trivial decisions as shallow as choose your own adventure books.
ME at least felt like an RPG with good writing and mechanics. Not just "Publisher's safe TPS" meant for the lowest common denominator even with its copy pasted rooms.

>Enter a Room full of boxes
>Take cover as enemies enter from opposite sides
>Shoot to fill the bullet sponges, hold A to next cover
>Proceed to corridor leading to next room filled with boxes
>Ugh Shepard I am wounded, what do ? Give him medecine or leave him behind.
>Repeat until end credits.

This right here is a man of taste and understanding.

Friend told me he would love to play quake champions, they should put it on a console and crossplay. I said you won't be able to do 90% of the things, probably be barely playable, completely different experience. He said that they should adapt and change it then. I'm still at loss of words and mad as fuck.

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>Mankind Divided is half a game

pretty gwaphics and UI is a hell of a drug

>so you would love to play the game if they make it a different game
Never be mad user, just be smug as fuck.

If it's an RPG series where the story and lore are extremely important pieces of what makes the games good, and then comes in a sequel with shit tier writing that takes a huge steaming pile of shit on what made the older games good, then it is a problem. The sequel having "better gameplay" and some other little improvements do not excuse the disaster that is the rest of the game. the Fallout series for example
So yeah
>story bad = game bad
is a true thing, which obviously doesn't apply to everything, but do for RPGs.

>FUCK BLOODBORNE CHALICE DUNGEONS THEY RUIN THE GAME

How? You don't even need to do them outside of getting an achievement, and even then the ones you need to do are not randomly generated meaning you can check a guide online and finish them fast.

>But the gems for PvP

PvP in BB is literally the worst in the series, I refuse to believe anyone would grind for gems to play that garbage.

Every single persona got mad flaws, also it being mega unfun after the first 10 hours just means it isn't for you

Oh hey that sounds exactly like me

This, I used to play games in hardest diff, but I don't care anymore at all and if the game doesn't have an achievement that I played through the game in that diff then why would I care?

people finish horror games all the time
speak for yourself, zoomer

>the only way to have fun with the game for me is to complete it
you do you, but know that you are retarded

>Horror games are not fun
Fuck off larping zoomer

>he doesn't have fun with horror games

>paid cosmetics are good because they make devs make free extra content

fantasy lives and dies on making sense internally though
surrealism can do whatever it wants, not fantasy

user fight normalfaggotry, it's not too late!

>it's okay if a game is bad because anime titties
>i don't like the game i just like the cute girls
>what a shit game the women in it aren't anime girls
>i will now buy your game
>make did you buy her game threads
>spam threads with half-naked cambodian cartoon women

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overwatch

Not really a opinion but

>thread about a fairly lesser known game
>it's actually active, people having fun, posting OC memes about the game, talking about it
>that ONE faggot that comes in ask what's the appeal without actually looking at the game or it being obvious
>tries to start shit
>alternatively, starts accusing the OP for being shills or the devs for being trannies which derails the thread so fucking fast

I fucking hate it

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>t. Only played until level 5

people will deny this is true because of their stupid "all games must be fun" pedantry
Silent Hill 2 isn't fun. People still love it
Alpha Centauri isn't fun. People still love it
video games aren't necessarily toys. Fun can be replaced with being interesting or scary.
the fact that people have to stretch the definition of fun to argue otherwise proves you right.

this board is pozzed

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t. cube world fanboy

>Silent Hill 2 isn't fun.
>Alpha Centauri isn't fun.

Don't you enjoy starting shitstorm from time to time?
Some men just want to see the world burn.

They are works of le art and don't belong in the hands of dirty gamers you pleb.

People who shit all over Final Fantasy X and the only criticism they ever have is the laugh scene.

Once you accept night Yea Forums is better then day Yea Forums this problem will stop existing.
Coincides with most americans being asleep incidentally.

It isn't shopped. That outfit, as well as the red dress, have pokey nipples. The latter is still obtainable as it's a story unlock.

no good horror game is fun by the the actual definition of the word, zoomer

I haven't played FFX but i can see that scene in front of my eyes right now.

Fun isn't the word you should be using.
Try engaging.

>no good horror game is fun by the the actual definition of the word
For example?

>falseflagging because you have no argument
the state of zoomers

>someone comes into every thread and posts a dumb meme about it
>posts it so much people think its ironically hilarious
>can't make a thread without someone bringing up the meme and derailing any discussion
>no one gets the appeal of the game, no one talks about the games, half the thread is just posting dumb memes

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>Silent Hill 2 isn't fun
>Alpha Centauri isn't fun.
This is the problem with you faggots, fun is ANYTHING that is enjoyable or amusing to someone, stop trying to gatekeep something as general and unquantifiable as "fun".

>Literally no argument
>ZOOMER
I wonder if you even played silent hill 2 or Alpha Centauri if you say it its not fun

Elaborate.

>works of art
Thank god video games are not art

>Planescape Torment on a 3x3
This is the vidya opinion that makes me angry
I don't know how that garbo is anyone's favorite, a pile of shit in a cool setting is still a pile of shit

>lacks replayability
fuck off

>microtransactions are ok because they don't affect the base gameplay!
By that same token
>You dont have to buy it!

You're perpetuating and defending a deeper problem inside the industry and prolonging greedy manipulative and anti consumer corporate tendencies by defending this. Make companies put out full expansions with minor clothings and other shit included in it or fuck off and don't support it at all. Fuck you loose walleted casuals and faggot wallet warriors too.

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It's just the next step of the old "games are art" drivel constantly repeated by uncreative hacks who are ashamed of their jobs.
The endgame of it is "games don't need gameplay".

Ever heard of nostalgia?

silent hill 1 and 2 have braindead and easy combat and puzzles, but they're still gripping and atmospheric, which is why people love them to this day
no one says
>silent hill 2 is so fricking FUN
because it's not about being a blast to play. If you took out the atmosphere and dialogue and just had the player fight monsters, the franchise wpuld have been forgotten

even worse when it becomes just shit flinging because there's little dumb factions and boogeymen plaguing the entirety of the discussion, you can't enjoy things anymore, you have to hate everything else as well or you're not a "real fan".

>fun is ANYTHING that is enjoyable or amusing to someone
So it literally means nothing at all then. Everything can be amusing to someone, I'm sure Hitler giggled as he burned Jews. Great word faggot

>silent hill 1 and 2 have braindead and easy combat and puzzles
And how is that not fun?
> If you took out the atmosphere and dialogue and just had the player fight monsters, the franchise wpuld have been forgotten
Atmosphere is part of the gameplay and how in the fuck was dialogue important in Silent hill 1 when you see a person like every 1 2 hours?

The quote doesn't aggravate me as much as the idea that people will think this is true.
Anger =/= Caring. You can care about losing but be a screeching autistic fuck isn't the way to express you care. Literally some child mindset.

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>great word faggot
I didn't make the word nor the definition of it up, you sissy. It is what it is.

I have nostalgia for shit games but that doesn't mean I slap them on my 3x3s or all-time favorites lists

Did he enjoy himself while doing so? Then yes, he probably had fun.

fun is a word with meaning, post-modernist. denying the definition because it proves you wrong is pretty pathetic

this must be the first time you've heard about those games if you think they're some action-packed thrill rides

I laughed out loud after reading this this twat, damn.

>break a leg
>not fun
>friends come, be supportive, write meme on leg
>fun
>tfw I don't know what fun is anymore

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That's pretty harmless. Also his audience are e-sport kiddies anyway.

not him but changing the definition of "fun" to absolutely nothing doesn't prove you right, it just makes you look like a retard

its god damn insane to say out loud. It feels like a damn troll but after seeing this guy I can believe it. This shit is going to perpetrate horribly in the future. Grown ass people thinking getting butt hurt is an adult way to express themselves.

>this must be the first time you've heard about those games if you think they're some action-packed thrill rides
I hope you're not implying they are 'movie' games

>guy who doesn't know what the word "fun" means also can't read in general
checks out

>if I dont get a virtual medal for doing someting why bother
Why do you even play games

I worked at a game store for awhile, until a few years ago, and I heard on plenty of occasions "dont waste time getting good at that game, there is no money or notoriety in it" in one form or another. Also "dont play that you only like play by yourself its dumb lol no I'm serious it's just you".

I really feel old.

You people are having fun W R O N G

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because it's a challenge and it feels good to beat it?

Do you have a dictionary at home? No?
Let me help you with the meaning of the word then
dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/fun

No u

Just generally MGS opinions make me mad as fuck. I don't want to hear anyone else's take on that series and I sure as fuck don't want to tell people my take. Shut the fuck up about my favorite franchise, don't say anything.

Apparently you can only have fun with bing bing wahoo.

More like you don't know what the word 'fun' means if you think it don't applies to both of those games, see

I do the same with games which are dear to me MGS a shit

Fun is for niggers

Fuck off nigger, you won't steal fun too

You don't understand, user.
Fun is a revolutionary post modern feeling that only i understand and there's no meaning but the one i attribute it to.

Same but with NieR

>buying strategy guides is the same as gacha

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how to become a nigger? I can use some fun in my life

I live for virtual medals that's the only reason I play games. The game sucks ass and no one plays it lol idc just give me the shiny shiny medal

>user discovers that fun is subjective

Any experience that a person has positive feelings for can be labeled as enjoyable, and therefore labeled as fun, according to this definition.

>horror games aren't fun
thanks for proving my point, post-modernists

>Horror games can't entertain you
Stop watching and start playing

>update contents are just cosmetics and premium busy-work to make paying for said cosmetics seem less direct
very cool tf2

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Even more so when you consider how cute and funny the daughter was. Really astounding that Yea Forums didn't pick up on that.

dq2 is trash, but only brainlets hate ff2 since it filters them.

Shit like this people who are monumentally retarded but for some reason think they're smart.

>projecting

Is that what I said?
That's odd. I don't remember saying that.

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>DQ2 bad when its literally DQ1 with more shit
You guys are gay

>why cant people not be autistic
Cause theyre autistic dummy

this. stupid people should stfu

I get my kicks out of being scared in horror vidya. I'm enjoying myself therefore I'm having fun. Fun is a subjective experience.

>you shouldn't like this game because i didn't enjoy it
>now let me proceed to tell you why you shouldn't like it

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>what is fun for me defines what is fun for everybody
How is the inside of your ass faring, user?

Are you sure it isn't fake fun?

based

so, Yea Forums makes you mad?

>fake fun
tell me more

You might be on to something here.

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Fun is a jewish trick.

I hate this shit on a general level. These fucking dregs who refuse to enjoy anything older than a couple of years should be round up and shot. Imagine applying this thought to any other media
>all paintings, music, movies, etc older than 5 years are garbage

Fuck I hate these people.

I like challenges, but usually not on first playthroughs anymore

>boomer has alzheimers
Shocker

Not him but i still wonder why the fuck i visit this shit instead of playing games

>this game isnt exactly like [other game in the same genre] so it's shit

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>You can be a fan of a franchise/studio/director/game without actually playing it

Why is a zoomer acting like an expert as to how things operated before his time?

You liking a bad game doesn't make it any better, it's a bad game and people will discuss it's quality, you can still enjoy bad things, everyone does. The problem is thinking that anything that you like is good, and vice versa.

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>your opinion about [game] is wrong because it's only X hours long (30 hours less than howlongtobeat says) and you spent Y on because you didn't skip all the text
>no, I won't address anything you said about the game

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I experience this in the opposite direction. Sometimes Ill get tilted and scream autistically at the game, but Im not actually mad or that invested. Im just in the moment and venting my fleeting autistic fury.

reminder

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Ffx has the best non tactics gameplay of any FF game.

>graphics bad=game bad
>music/sound design is one of/the least important aspect of a game
>realism is ever a good idea outside small niche titles
>anime artstyle=bad
>old=bad
>games age
>fallout 3 is better than any other fallout besides 76 and BoS
>recommending games with mods in a first playthrough that aren't just bugfix mods
>a game can't be bad because you spent >100 hours on it

There might be more. All of them don't make me equally as mad but they do all make me at least annoyed.

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Why is the boomer up past his bedtime.

I have like 1400 hours on the game, the story is shit and the music is shit. From every track in the game I only liked the newest (Anamnesis Anyder) dungeon music.

>you can still enjoy bad things
That seems like a lost art. Everyone defends their shit like it's part of their identity.

I had someone tell me NG+ is a shit feature and it gave me an aneurysm.

You're not even going to attempt forming a cohesive argument, are you.
You're just going to keep >greentexting and memespouting until the thread 404's.

Have fun with your self.

>Yea Forums angry about fun
pottery

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>The problem is thinking that anything that you like is good
i never said the games i liked were good or bad, but it's a waste of time posting opinions on this website when i don't even fucking know them, their favorite genre, or if they even played the game.

very true. it's only good when the fans are completely silent with no sense of 'community' of any sort.

botw is an ubisoft game for people who hate zelda games. of course the zoomers who love that trash won't play a real zelda game.

Did they make any points or were they just saying that to be a dumb asshole and purposefully annoy people? Cause that legit made me a little mad just reading it.

why would anyone say that? what can even be an argument for that?

Wrong. Good fanbases exist, but they are very small.

Holy based, finally someone else who gets it

Not an opinion, but people who obsess over turn based combat, especially in old game that took 10 minutes to kill one guy

It provides the best experience possible.

1000 barren ME1 planets are godlike compared to 10 ME2 planet scanning.
your opinions are forever shit.

I think they were just being a shit disturber because they seemed pretty adamant that a game that has NG+ has no good "postgame". Most games I've played with ng+ have a good postgame too though.

So what?

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I used to only play dps until I noticed that healsluts are only drawn to tanks.

>game is shit
>why?
>because it's shit

>I don't have the time or desire to fight a boss 20 times to learn all their move sets

Then just play on normal. It's okay to play on easy mode if you admit you suck dick at games.

Being angry about fun is fun.

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But I don't find it fun so it's not fun.

>7th gen consoles were good

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>BotW is a 10/10
Quite literally the only thing it does better than the average Ubisoft game is the physics simulation which can admittedly be very clever and interesting at times. There are moments of absolutely brilliant design but for the most part it's fairly samey and repetitive. It's not a BAD game, but it's drastically overrated and would be a lot better if the game world was reduced in size about 50% and had a lot more hand-placed shit.

>FO3 and FO4 are not abominations

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What games allow me to sneak attack?

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>he probably had fun
But was the activity fun? That's the question. Tell me, do you think that burning Jews is FUN just because 1 guy apparently liked doing it? Are you even legally allowed to answer this question in your country?

>a game can't be bad because you spent >100 hours on it
I truly feel this one. I spent almost 50 hours in Fallout 4, doing everything i could to like the game, everything, i even installed a bunch of mods as by my friend's request. All that wandering around trying to see what everyone saw in it, almost forcing myself to enjoy it, and i couldn't even finish the main story because of how abysmal the writing was, it got to a point where i felt bad for not enjoying it, seeing as EVERYONE i know loved the game to death and i saw almost nothing in it that was even remotely good in comparison to it's predecessors, it was the moment in my life where i felt the most like an NPC just doing things because everyone else did. Then my friend (same guy who recommended the mods) asks me about how my gameplay was going, and i tell him everything, mothefucker looks at me dead in the face and says
>but you played so much of it how are you going to tell me you didn't love it

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Good horror games are fun though, and not even just because they're scary. Dead Space, Resident Evil, and Amnesia all have pretty fun gameplay and the second Amnesia game was hated because despite being more horrific than the first the gameplay was bland garbage. The whole reason FNAF is popular is because it has super simple and refined gameplay despite the only real horror elements being cheap jumpscares.

Dead Space and Amnesia are absolute garbage though.

I can't get myself to be mad at people overrating zelda at this point. It's a series that so consistently overrated that it's weird when it's not (skyward sword comes to mind) and I've just accepted that the ratings for any zelda game aren't going to be accurate.

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>Tell me, do you think that burning Jews is FUN just because 1 guy apparently liked doing it?
I don't but if he got a kick out of it then he had fun. Fun is subjective.

>But was the activity fun?
Non-factor. The property of fun doesn't reisde in an entity, it's generated in the individuals interpreting said entity.

People who complain about having their opinion criticized piss me off.
You can have meaningful conversations about difference in opinion and gatekeeping is valuable. Shitflinging can be fun as well.
Hit back or disengage, don't do what you're accusing others of: whining that someone doesn't share your opinion.

You sound like a shithead who gets kicked out of every social circle for being obnoxiously confrontational

>dude everything is subjective
So you say, but here you are arguing about it. Why aren't you content with your subjective opinion?

Joke's on you, I'm not welcome to begin with.

What are you even trying to say here? Fun is literally subjective. You probably enjoy doing things that I don't, you have fun with those activities that I otherwise wouldn't.

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>everything
No. Fun is subjective. Emotions tend to be, you robot. You claming fun is something objectively definable is worth a discussion where people explain to you in detail why you're fucking wrong.

>senran kagura ninjas are not how the ninjas were in history, why are they called ninjas that is wrong and insulting, stop calling them ninjas reeee
that nerd rage was glorious

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/thread

I'm saying if fun is subjective, why bother arguing about games? The only important thing is fun right? What is there to talk about? Why are you here?

What i got from this thread is that people hate everything

At EVERYTHING though? I like different control schemes for different stuff

>Why are you here?
Just to suffer

holy based

Read the actual reply chain.

I don't argue about games. Discussing the quality of a game is a waste of time.
>Why are you here?
To talk with people about games. You can discuss the content of a certain game without having any arguments. Try it, it might be fun.

>You have an opinion?
>I hate you guts.
Essence of retardnet.

Another day on this god forsaken board.
You're here forever.

>games are so outdated
>this game aged poorly
>you can't play that game today
I hate all variations of this opinion. It's not even an opinion, it's literally NOT a fact. Jesus it makes me seethe so hard. How the fuck do people think gameplay changes in 10 years. They are running from the fact that they had their own personal tastes change.