Ips

27" OLED monitor fucking when?

>1080p

>but moooommm i need OLED

Not better than IPS

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Nobody should use OLED for anything, that technology is redundant and has too many flaws.

For me, it's the Viewsonic VX2758-2KP-MHD.

1440p, 144hz, IPS panel, Freesync.

It's real good.

>1080p
2008 called

Explain. The best buy employee told me oled was the best

Feels good man.

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B U R N I N

-Cannot be flicker free
-Burn in
-Fragile
-Unnatural saturated colors
-Organic diodes give out in 7-10 years, blue ones die first
-Expensive

it's fucking shit

t. boomer
AMOLED is the best.

this
Viewsonic, EIZO are good brands.
Everything else is pretty much memegamer shit.

That was implied.

Amoled, or any OLED for that matter, is shit. Amoled only has 2 subpixels per pixel, resulting in 33% less clear image compared to an LCD display of similar resolution.

stop eating shit

I just looked this up and I'm guessing this is pretty much the best bang for the bucks you can get today? God I hate how these monitors are still so expensive.

Why are you coping you poorfag boomer? Shouldn't have skipped school instead.

>monitors

t. coping oled shit eater

>TN
>shit viewing angles and colours
>VA
>good for consuming media but shit for games due to ghosting
>IPS
>great colours and viewing angles but can suffer from ips glow and only
>OLED
>not great for static shit and that can lead to burn ins like in old plasma tvs
You just can't win with this shit.

is that a fucking glossy display?

IPS with matte finish do not have glow

Yeah, after a lot of comparing I think this one has the best quality for an affordable price. Only thing I don't like is the stand it's on. The legs come out significantly further than the screen. Depending on how close you sit (I sit very close) you need to position your keyboard a little awkwardly because the screen legs might be in the way.

most are correct but...

>-Fragile
NO
>-Unnatural saturated colors
NO can be adjusted.
>-Organic diodes give out in 7-10 years, blue ones die first
Thats completely speculative at best and if it were true most people replace monitors after 5 years.

>-Expensive,
Yes and no, prices have been coming down but still not what people should be paying.

>n-no u
Lmao, sad! Imagine not buying new TVs or monitors after 10 years.

>Considering upgrading monitor
>IPS panels have piss poor black levels and contrast
>Good VA panels are often either oversized, curved or have ghosting issues
I just want a 1440p 144hz 27" monitor with good contrast and no shitty curves. Is that so much to ask for? At this rate I'll end up sticking with my 1080p monitor.

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microled will save us

I have this shit and its too bright for my neet cave, 0/10 would take a va next time

>buy this monitor
>2 weeks later already dead pixel
the absolute state. Other than that it's pretty good

>Why yes I do own an Acer monitor what gave it away?

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go TN they are so muce more improved to the point of not noticing

Activating low-latency gayman mode in the monitor settings should decrease its brightness/colour intensity automatically.

>muh viewing angle for when I need to play vidya at a 70° angle
>muh color reproduction was better 30 years ago
Literally the only """arguments""" the IPSbrainlet can muster.

>1440p 144 Hz
>32"
>VA panel

I rike it.

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The only promising IPS monitor to come out is this one.
>youtube.com/watch?v=T5Loh7vOcVM

What's better than oled? Qled?

It is fragile, you can put a lighter to an LCD screen and it wouldn't cause damage for a few seconds, OLED pixels would die instantly. There's a few dead pixels in my Oculus rift CV1 because sun shone through its lenses for a second, this would never had happened with an LCD screen.
>Thats completely speculative at best and if it were true most people replace monitors after 5 years.
point still stands
>NO can be adjusted.
No matter how much you adjust them they'd still look like saturation was turn way up on a regular IPS screen
>Yes and no, prices have been coming down but still not what people should be paying.
they are 300-500% more expensive compared to similarly specced LCD offerings

Ti or titan? otherwise you have a monitor you will never really use and by the time regular hardware has caught up to be powerful enough the monitor will have died.

Some recent AOCs costs more than your rigs and are quality-wise (with a perfect 4:4:4 chroma subsampling) better than Asus and Samsung

OLED is good for TVs where you watch two hours a day at most of moving images.

OLED is awful for monitors since they're on for like 10 hours a day and also static images is more prevalent.

I have this cheap shit. Looks the same as OP's.

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Why would you put a lighter next to your monitor retard

For me is pic related

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This. TN panels have come a long way, leaving IPS as basically just a meme pick for clueless normalfags at this point.

his mommy probably buys him a new computer and monitor every few months.

Neither and there are plenty games I play that do utilise the high refresh rate of the screen. As i'm not one of those people that are "ALL LDA SLIDERS TO THE RIGHT !!!!1111ONE" minor IQ compromises for massive fps gains is an easy tradeoff.

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Why are you changing the goalposts retard?

My current TN panel isn't too bad really. It was only when I started playing RE2 remake that I realized how grey the blacks looked, and I haven't been able to unsee it since then.
It seems neat enough, but it looks like it has the same contrast issues as most other IPS panels.

Fuck that shit, I'll take that new IPS monitor with 1ms response rate from LG over anything AOC, any fucking day no matter the price. As much as I know IPS has better colors, I've come to appreciate how important response rate is in comparison. Thank god those of us who have money don't have to choose between a good picture and good response rate any more.

>1080p

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Isn't 32" too much for fast paced games? It seems like you have to actively move your neck to track everything. Besides, unless you really like having a huge monitor, doesn't it defeat the purpose of having a 1440p monitor when its size causes it to have a pixel density that's comparable to 1080p?

>response rate
Sorry not a try hard esports online babby

Is this lara croft? What a weird mix of dudes in modern clothing and a chick in bright green fantasy armour.

AMAAAAAAAZING GRAAAAAAAAACE
HOW SWEEEEEEEEEEET
THE SOOOUND

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Step aside plebs, the king is here

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>TV is fragile its shit
"how is it fragile user?"
>well if you intentionally damage it with an open flame or knock it off the table it becomes totally ruined!! What kind of shit design is this?

>1080p

Why, though? Is your pc a potato and completely incapable of running at 1440p?

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This looks pretty good. However
>Non-adjustable height settings in the current year

How long until 4K MicroLED 300hz 1ms 27" Variable Refesh Rate HDR is available for less than a thousand burgerbucks?

It is considerably more fragile than LCD in any circumstance. What is your point?

>That'll be $5000 for your monitor go- sir

Given how people treat their phones it wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't occur to people to not throw shit at their TV.

Who cares about color accuracy?

>mfw I have a Radeon HD6970 from 2010 and I'm playing on 1440p/144hz
>but only CS:GO and M&B Warband
>but those are the only games that matter anyway

>not vesa mounting your monitors

A long time - fucking DP 1.5 needs to be a thing really.

>get a 1440p monitor
>can't play the games in 1080p because it's blurry as fuck
fuck me

>IPS

enjoy getting tired of the dumb colors and glow, that shit is hard on your eyes and should be used only to watch anime, movies, tv shows and sports as a side monitor

Yes, as I said, the stand really sucks. It happens to fit exactly with my own height and the way I place my keyboard, but I can easily see how people woild hate it.
But yeah, the screen itself is very good.

50iq the post

Non-calibrated screens are responsible for so many anons not understanding why high(er) resolutions are so good.. No good having a 4k screen if your reds all look like period blood.

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How much is important pixel density for games?

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>1400:1 contrast ratio
I don't believe you. what is wrong with it? 10ms delays even though it's 144hz?

Aside from angles (which you can offset with a curve) what downside does a VA have compared to IPS?

I've had my IPS for years. But I'll admit some VA panels are easier on the eyes.

None of that matters unless you're some faggot playing modern AAA cinematic experiences. The only thing that matters is visual clarity and contrast.

Why mention lighter next to monitor, a situation that literally never happens?

Ghosting

What is the ultimate monitor (24 or 27 inch) you can buy if money is no object?

>get 1080p monitor
>shit looks extra dope with supersampling/downsampling

I have sex with women

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VA glow(it is worse than IPS glow), slower than IPS, color accuracy is slightly better than TN
but eh if you want 3000:1 contrast ratio with all of the above downsides get it

It really does matter.

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>1080p in 2020
lmao

4k 512 FALD zones HDR screen for $2.5k
and a 2080ti to go with it, fuck

It was merely an example of how LCD is more resilient to heat. It is also much more enduring to impacts
>just don't hit your monitor bro
Not an argument. I was asserting that OLED displays are fragile.

>blowing out visuals of games designed for CRT monitors on your meme IPS display

>playing at 1080p on 1440p panel makes games blurry

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>I call everything I can't afford a meme

youtube.com/watch?v=dNw4PwVYzSs

Is this going to be a scam?

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Yes user, never heard about pixel to pixel ratio?

Oh no, its retarded.

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Protip: Set the game to 1440p too

>red and black gamer shit

not even worth 1 dollar

>240hz
Don't.

tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus_tuf_gaming_vg279qm.htm
just get this.

I do most of the time, but older games have shit UI scaling and you can't read shit.

anything worth playing has mods for that

Something IPS panels are notorious for?

>friend uses a 32" 720p HDTV as a monitor
>also has DPI scaling set to 150%

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Not this one that I tried to replay again.
>store.steampowered.com/app/4420/Silverfall/

yeah, 7 years ago. VA still hasn't fixed it, it got better but not IPS levels better.

>pic
We've all made this mistake.

No we have not. I've actually never owned a cpu with an igpu.

Still doesn't prove inherent fragility.

speak for yourself.

ive never bought a motherboard with onboard video

you could mess about with downsampling and sharpening filters if you got AMD
or play in window at 1080p, its not blurry that way

>R7

>"ALL LDA SLIDERS TO THE RIGHT !!!!1111ONE"
Ultra settings is a meme but the only objective benchmark that exists. At home you're going to use your own custom settings of course but if you have to turn settings that far down to max out your monitors capabilities you might as well lower the resolution and play at ultra/high-mix.

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I've been wanting to get a new monitor, I'm currently looking at the Acer GF276 since it's on sale at best buy. Seems alright but a lot of reviews mention that the colours look off on it, not sure how much I should care considering it's a TN panel.

Anyone have this thing, or any recommendations on other 1080p monitors with low response times in the 150$ range?

TN is decent, VA is still unusable for gaming as of 2020

>playing diablo 2 on a shit monitor
>literally impossible to tell the difference between rares and uniques

1440p or bust, my dude.

I'll be honest with you: at $150 you can buy anything that isn't older than 2 years.

So from what I can gather from this thread, if you want a monitor that has:
>1440p +144hz
>Low response time
>No ghosting/black smearing
>Good colors
>Good contrast and deep black levels
Then you're shit out of luck? Where ever I look it seems like you have to give up at least a few of these.

>sharpening filters if you got AMD
I'm sure that one is only available on Navi cards if you wanna support for DX9 games.

You got them mixed up. TN is a dead panel type.

>2020
>1080p
Imagine living in the past

What a fucking retard you must actually be blind to not be able to notice a difference. It has absolutely nothing to do with esports.

never had that problem at 800x600 on a crt

>We've all made this mistake.
No we haven't. Being a beginner does not mean being a retard.

I mean 1440p is a meme resolution its either 1080p or 2160p ,dont be fag

Neither of them are worth considering for purchase when IPS exists.

Of course not, they didn't have color issues which was my point exactly. Saying colors don't matter is fucking retarded.

>urn settings that far down to max out your monitors capabilities
I don't have to because I am equally not the type that demands 120fps locked all the time. I fully leverage the advantages of VRR so some games I will play at 90+ fps, others 60ish fps is acceptable. GRIP combat racing (a game i've been playing recently) hates AMD in general but running it at 80% res scale with radeon image sharpening on you simply cannot tell the difference between 80% and native 4k yet my fps goes from 60ish to around 90 and the smoothness is fantastic. On the other hand i'll play metro exodus on the ultra settings and run at 50fps or so because it is a slow paced game so the higher image quality is worth more than the smoothness simply because you don't play it fast enough for a high framerate to be a deciding factor. No compromise gaming is a myth and an easy mental trap to fall into.

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>getting a middle-of-the-road monitor instead of one that excels at what you need
>for almost 400 dollars

Yeah that's about what I expect, finding the good cheap monitors is hard. Guess I'll go to best buy today and gamble on it.

I have the VA version and the fucker flickers when using gsync. At least the contrast is great

FALD monitors with many zones, if you are willing to spend $2k or more.
but seriously faults are exaggerated here, it's not as bad
rule of thumb at least 0.10 blacks and 1200:1 contrast ration for IPS if you can't afford FALDs
modern IPS are very fast now, still you got to spend at least $500 for better than average

>most people replace monitors after 5 years
still using a dell S2340M from a decade ago, mainly because all new monitors are horseshit and use matte surfaces, I won't buy a new monitor until that meme ends and we can finally go back to glossy. if it never happens and this one ever dies I'll use a TV screen instead of a monitor, because matte ruins every improvement that has ever been made in display quality, I don't know how anyone can tolerate the permanent screen diarrhea plastered over all of the content you will ever view.

RIS is just AMD rolling the reshade contrast aware sharpening into the control panel - if you want it for DX9 games on unsupported hardware just go nab reshade.

I literally, LITERALLY have this monitor. It's great.

>ips: better colour, but ips glow
>tn: super fast, shit colours
>va: not so fast as tn, not that good colours
Va sucks

hello console shitter. first day on the 4chin?

>he doesn't know about native resolution
retard

>console shitter
absolute mental illness,console shitters are the ones used to 1080p and lower

>Acer x27
>real 1000nits HDR IPS
>4k 144hz
>381 full aray local dimming zones, so no IPS glow
>only 2k
Stop being poor

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LCDs were a mistake

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I bought it like a month ago, it's great

>bought a nice monitor
>to play shitty brownbloom games like shadow of tomb raider

Couldn't you have tried the monitor with something that is able to display more colors than brown, gray and green?

you do of course realize taking pictures of your monitor is pointless because whoever is looking at that can only see it on the quality level of their own monitor?

>IPS
>1400 contrast
I say bullshit (not that it's all that good)

You forgot to add in the cost of sound dampening headphones as the nuclear hot gsync module ramps its screaming fan to stay cool.

dual layer LCD looks about as good as a CRT

too bad the tech seems to only be reserved for reference monitors and costs $30000

Anything higher than 1080p is not practical
Unless you have quad sli 2080ti or rich loving parents that will buy em for your gaming hobbies

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I haven't thought of mobos with IGPUs in so long that I legitimately thought this person somehow mounted their GPU in the mobo's spot.

We all know this, but were aren't the ones who decided to completely end CRT production and leave enthusiasts bickering over which flat panel type is slightly less shit than the other shit flat panel types.

full aray local dimming zones
That's not mych
FLAD create mode input lag too.
Doesn't it turn on only on HDR content? Not many games are HDR so you see shit contrast for many games.
>2K dolla
>not even 21:9
Yikes.

I'm a brainlet who doesn't understand shit when it comes to monitors.

What are "TN" panels and why are they looked down upon? And why are "IPS" panels considered better?

Nah, you can hear it,sure but lets be honest, if you play games at max settings 4k, your pc is much louder. I cant hear the monitor over my pc. (But yes I already use noice canceling headphones so mweh)

>What is resampling

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rl2455hm master race

>Anything higher than 1080p is not practical
Unless you have quad sli 2080ti or rich loving parents that will buy em for your gaming hobbies
Cope holy shit how can someone be so deluded,keep playing on ultra 1080p poorfag

>Stop being poor
I wish I could. very intrigued by FALD would like to see it. are there any 1440p monitors with FALD? I wouldn't want to replace GPU for a new monitor.
did you own IPS monitor before, how does FALD compare?

Is that 30fps gaming making you so buttmad about internet opinions?

youtube.com/watch?v=xrYL07hPw4w

These are the people who use acer products

You can get a 1440p144hz monitor for as low as $250. At $350-400 you can get one of the good ips models
A 2070S or a 5700XT will easily do 1440p120 on anything that's not metro exodus/control/sottr with memetracing on
1440p even at high refresh rates is mid range now. Seems like you're just poor.

>FLAD create mode input lag too.
This is false. Worse case scenario is that the FLAD is maybe a bit slow but its barely noticable, unlike most FLAD tv's. I own a high end one and this monitor is better
>Doesn't it turn on only on HDR content?
No, its also for non hdr shit. But the lacking hdr content is a pitty, since it really is night and day compared to playing some games at SDR at zero perfomance cost.

I got the monitor used for 1.1k and its aight for that money, would return at 2k
>21:9
Owned one a few monitors before this one, its really nice, but you need to use a hex editor with so many games, that it became a chore for me. But to each their own

Yeah man Ultra x16 MSAA 4k all the way hurr durr
Fucking IQlets infesting the board

>TN
Fast response times (only matter over 120hz, no monitor today is so slow they fail to update in time for lower speeds)
Shit everything else
>IPS
Worst response times than TN but still good (only matter over 120hz, no monitor today is so slow they fail to update in time for lower speeds)
Good color accuracy but
>VA
Even worse response times than IPS, but high range models are still good and sometimes faster than IPS (which is why some 200hz monitors are VA and handle those speeds perfectly fine)
Great contrast, not OLED tier but looks pretty close
Plays great in the dark
less accurate colors than IPS but they pop way more due to high contrast
Worse angles than IPS but way way better than TN
The only panel outside of OLED that can do acceptable HDR without overpriced FALD.

Don't believe the IPS at all cost shills, they have no idea what they're talking about. No response time advantage can fix motionblur, you need ULMB for that, which is THE feature everyone should care about, NOT the fucking panel types.

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Used to have a 21:9 ips monitor, and my biggest complaint was the "glow" and this removes it completly. And about the 1440p, there are only 2 monitors on the market with FALD and those are both 4k i'm afraid.

Honestly not a single game so far didn't run in 21:9 for me

> 21:9 ips
That sounds like a big mistake to do.

A nice bonus of VA is that often they have very wide gamuts, I have an old Philips with something like 150% sRGB gamut (also 3000:1 static contrast) and the colors are amazing. Compared it side to side with my previous monitor, and IPS with 80% sRGB, some tonalities like red or green are way more intese on the VA panel, red for example actually looks red, on the IPS it looks orange.

Honestly, colors > response time. Unfortunately many VA panels suffer from clouding. Mine has minor clouding but it's noticeable (only on gray tones). Still not as bad as the edge glow you get on IPS.

FALD?

clean it up mommy

I'm looking for a side monitor that's 24 inches. Am I a retard for considering this even though my main monitor is a 1440p 144hz tn panel?
amazon.com/gp/product/B07WVN6CWT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm going to buy LG 27GL650F-B next week.

>Not better than IPS
yes VA are better than IPS.

>he doesn't know

>only matter over 120hz,
so if I get a monitor that is over 120hz, I don't have to worry about low response times regardless of whether I'm using VA, IPS or TN?

oh no no no no no no

>1080p
lmao, you're below consoles

Honest question, what's wrong with 1080p?

1440p is vastly superior.

Whats wrong with 640x480? The answer is the same to both questions.

DELETE THIS WEBEM

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my benq AMVA don't have any ghosting issue

Is 1080p good enough for a 24 inch screen?

I find it is quite important as it massively reduces the need for AA.

>1400:1
You can get 3800:1 with modern VA. You still need to make sure its a model without excessive backlight bleed, but its looks really good with 3800:1

Pic related reaches 4100:1 but has unbearable visible backlight bleed at any monotone colors present.

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It's irrelevant as VA is irredeemable garbage.

I'm not really following. 640x480 looks great with content designed with that resolution in mind on a proper CRT display.

>1080p
>1400:1
Far too low. Unfortunately VA is the only option for 1440p+ and decent black level.

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>buy 1440p monitor
>in 2 days of use a hot pixel appears in the left corner of the screen

just kill me

does this kind of stuff get worse with time?

As I said, the answer is the same but there is a reason why resolutions constantly move upwards - finer details can be shown, higher pixel density tackles aliasing and with the likes of FALD you can get finer grain control of a scene because you have more pixels to play with. Outside of specific tuning at face value you always want more resolution.

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Kek
You aren't even saying anything, but flailing

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I'm sorry you have to put up with va garbage.

Ok we get it, you're insecure about being bad at video games.

thanks for this breakdown. googling the difference is so fucking cancerous

So I need a TN 144hz 27 inch 1440p monitor? Is that the best?

it is tho.
>1440p is vastly superior.
yes BUT my consoles will not scale properly. so at some point i will go to 4k

TN is garbage.

you want IPS because you're not a professional CSGO player who needs 240hz refresh rate

>mistake
This is true, so far every LCD technologies have huge drawback but IPS is still king. Like another user said, MicroLED should be the savior, and yes OLED is shit. It's clearly a normie tech for people who like what is shiny or flashy.

AOC pulled black magic fuckery with it and managed to get an IPS with acceptable contrast, colour reproduction; glow, and latency with support for high framerates.

This review digs into the full details:
pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-24g2u-24g2/
About the only notable issues are its a tad bright and the pixel overdrive is better on two distinct settings for 60hz vs 144hz so you gotta jump in a menu to chabge it when swapping between 144fps and 60fps gaming.

My 580 was doing 1440p just fine before I got the 5700xt.

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so IPS 60hz 32 in 1080p monitor?

Why not ask for a refund or use the warranty to get a replacement then? It's only been 2 days.

It's ideal for that size. Enjoy needing a magnifying glass to read if you go for the 1440 meme.

What you want is the LG 27GL850

Indeed. But SED was display monitor Jesus and we killed him before he was even ready for market. We fucking killed him and now we're stuck with LCDs.

>32 inch monitor a foot away from your face
kys yourself, idiot.

god i wish weebs were something you can murder people for being

Iiyama G-Master GB2760QSU-B1
it's an old model and you probably won't be able to find it but it was a goat monitor
youtube.com/watch?v=cuOEmSrF2o4

You talkin shit bout my wife Mugi?

Where did the VA panel touch you user?

They crushed my blacks :(

>kys yourself, idiot.
not him but after moving to 27 inch I have trouble adjusting to a 24. if you have a bigger office a 32 should be fucking good.

Need to get a new main monitor to upgrade from my current 24'' 1080p 60hz

27 or 32 inch?

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refresh rate > resolution

even at 27" 1080p from typical desktop viewing range, you can literally see the pixels, the density is so small

>They crushed my blacks :(
yes but no. the VA crushing your black is like your speakers distorting your sound. it only happens only if you turn the contrast all the way up

Coping hard as always, va-let

>you can literally see the pixels
yep. and it's still worth it. trust me.

>tfw you have a good 144hz 1440p Samsung VA panel monitor but it doesn't have Freesync.

If you know anything about display technology you know that SED was basically everything wrong with LCD with nothing right from CRT.

>1080p
>2020

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I have an NVIDIA graphics card.

Does that mean I should avoid any panels that have Freesync and only find ones that have G-Sync?

>Coping hard as always, va-let
that would imply i don't have a VA monitor. I'm giving you real first hand experience.

Yes and No... several Freesync panels work with NVIDIA, you have to read reviews and/or check with NVIDIA to be sure.

You can use G sync with freesync. NVIDIA has a official list of monitors here:
nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/

God I'm so tired of this constant Sync fuckery.

>2020
>Yea Forums still falling for the "TN has shit colors" meme

Alright. State your monitor and try this test. I want to know if VA and TN have more inversion artifact than IPS.
testufo.com/inversion#pattern=distortion&ppf=1
If you see some sort of purple artifacts on the moving box, your monitor is shit tier.

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>any monitor that isn't 32"
Anything smaller feels like a baby sized monitor to me. I can't believe that I played on a tiny 15" crt back then.

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>1080p
bet it's sub 30 inches to boot

Here bro.
Seething poorfag.
Nothing is better than OLED and won't be until we'll have affordable consumer MicroLED monitors.

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They do though

I upgraded from a 24" 1080p monitor to a 27" 1440p monitor, and I cannot go back. I can''t imagine what going higher would've done to me.

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CRT is still better than OLED.

anything bigger than a 27" it feels like doing eye and neck workout just browsing the internet

>CRT
Enjoy your failing eyesight and migraine

ok fatass

All LCD screens has various levels of black crushing.
Because they can't display most colors, since the backlight limits the gamma ramp.

VA tech is just notorious for shipping 1000:1 LCD screens with a proper 2.4 gamma curve, which means its not possible to tell apart any of the lower values.
And then increasing contrast past that results in a shit show.
1000:1 is still 1000:1 at the end of the day, and it dictates how badly black crush can even happen in the first place.

>1080p
>16:9

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27'' feels like the sweet spot. I can't imagine going bigger. In fact I recently got a second 27 inch monitor for a dual monitor setup and think two 27 inches is too much. I'm sending it back and getting a 24 inch for my side instead

This but in games instead. Having to turn your head or eyes just to look at the health bar on top is annoying. Plus if you get a VA panel, the color becomes dogshit to the edge, which makes the scrollbar harder to see when you are browsing 4chin too.

nice marketing bro

16:10 is better

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>1000nits
So you can go blind?
I see the point for a tv but not a monitor.

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My monitor is a television in my living room.

We're not in the 90's anymore. You don't need to pay out the ass for a TN panel capable of IPS level color reproduction with superior contrast and response time.
I'd argue that IPS panels are your worst option these days.

2 1440p is perfect imo

Gsync lost so Nvidia just basically admitted they lied about the limitations of freesync and started "supporting" it. Technically they can only claim compatibility since freesync is AMD's implementation of the VESA standard but vanilla freesync and the VESA VRR are the same thing (freesync 2 is not though).

my main is a 1440p and my side is going to be a 1080p I think. I can't find a decent ips 24 inch 1440p that isn't out of my price range

God I hate the Nvidia kikes. I'm glad MS is shoving a big one up their asses with their new consoles.

asus pgq2789

>65"
>4K, HDR
>144Hz
>4ms response time
>1000nits
>VRR
>overclockable
>g-sync

You're not poor at you Yea Forums?

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Enjoy shit blacks, poor uniformity, dirty screen effect and color shift? TN is always going to be the retard filter

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4K or go home

30 fps gamer please

Might aswell just buy LG's OLED.

Gsync still has variable overdrive which is a surefire way of eliminating ghosting/overshoot. Freesync monitors have fixed overdrive modes so you need to manually adjust the overdrive setting depending on your FPS otherwise it's more likely to have shitty smear or overshoot. Some models are good though, like the LG 27GL850. They come with the best overdrive setting enabled that works across all refresh rate range.

Just look at this thread and any other ones where people post their rigs or portbeg for console exclusives. /vint/ already showed this place is infested by Brazillians, Slavs and other 3rd world poorfags. This place is swarming with poorfags.

why is 1440p a thing and not 4k in gaming? for the refresh rate?

LG's OLED's have 60Hz and no gsync/freesynce

That's a pretty good price, what's the model ?

>full of third worlders
I don't need /vint/ to tell you that. You can see with the shitty English everywhere. And I don't mean typos, but clearly people who don't understand grammar.

"how do you think" instead of "what" etc

I'd readily take 1080p with 144hz over 60 on a 4K monitor. Consoles already hurt my eyes with the failure to keep a constant 60.

LG's OLEDs have 120hz and I think VRR.

That isn't an inherent limitation of freesync, just the panels. I won't deny that the goysync module means you get a standardised (or close enough) level of performance across the range but to lay the blame at the feet of freesync is inaccurate.

>16:9
no

user...

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They'll do 120hz only at 1080p. When you shop for TV's be careful of being misled. I had a LG C7 before and all in all its a great tv, but I was kind of deceived by the 120Hz line, as you can't get that on 4k

Thanks for proving this board is also full of morons.

I'm listing an example of a grammatical mistake I see often on the board. We are not talking about this thread alone

>scientist It is a known fact that snakes shed their skin
>you: WTF IM LOOKING AT A SNAKE RIGHT NOW AND HE ISNT DOING IT

Right, only new TVs with HDMI 2.1 has support for 4k120hz.

You couldn't find a single mistake in this thread so you had to come up with one?

VA don't have glow but they have prominent ghosting

>Friend buys a 2k alienware PC
>hooks it up to a 100 bucks 1080p 60Hz monitor
Whenever i enter his flat i get mad and have to restrain myself to not look like a massive autist

Fuck 4k, I want 16k because integer scaling is now a thing and the more pixels you have the better it is for upscaling.

Cheap shit examples that failed quality control tend to have those problems, yes? Am I supposed to counter with the problems shitty IPS panels have now? I don't see what point you're trying to make here, but enjoy your meme panel.

Other user is right. Your pathetic. Kys

Once you experience 4K you cannot go back to decade old resolutions

And you'll need a next-gen GPU too, current AMD and nVidias can't do 4k120hz over HDMI

>VA don't have glow
The glow is even uglier than IPS bro.

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I prefer combining two 1440p monitors into one.

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>third world shitters mad about getting called out
Use your internet to get some free education instead of shitting up our board. Khanacademy is on YouTube so it should take more than 10-15 minutes to buffer a video on your connection

what form of dark magic is this

This is only a problem if you literally play at full brightness in completely dark room, in which case you're a retard and deserve it

>Gigashite

I always figured games were designed with the range of vision in mind. I have always read shit like in Halo anything you aren't looking at going to a low poly model or something.

So I figured as a result using such wide monitors or FoVs or whatever would cause some abnormality in the game, but not so I guess

>Acting though just because you're from US
Pathetic. Your also the one shitting up this board, not we.

Asus VG27AQ

It's a 27'' IPS 1440p 165hz panel with backlight strobing that runs with Freesync.

The 32'' Curved VA model is a fair bit cheaper as well.

[Spoiler]I've got the VA panel and the 32'' curve is actually really nice coming from 27'' as it's just extra display area in your peripheral vision. The elmb isn't perfect but often looks significantly better than your average VA panel, even with potential crosstalk issues[/spoiler]

All modern panels with multiple backlight zones can have complete cancer glow if the panel isn't of high enough quality.
3x8 is pretty fucking visible if its not setup correctly. And it doesn't help that the human eye sees 1-2% light difference easy, so its super visible if its any higher.

>but not so I guess
It varies on a game by game basis. Games are usually built for the most popular aspect ratio/resolution at the time. Playing a game from the 90s on a 16:9 display will often have distortion on 2D elements or a weird view model where things will be wider than they should be like max payne which makes everyone really wide in wide screen. The fact it varies on a game by game basis means a fuck ton of inconvenience for every game that does not support it (which is like 99% of games) means massive headaches.

Not op but now I'm used to it I doubt I could go back to 27.

When you factor in the curve and the extra fov you can add because of it you're basically playing a 27'' screen with added peripheral vision.

>Sony FW900
i'm jelly

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>Play on 27”
>Turn camera fast
>Everything becomes a shitshow
Can backlight strobing or whatever it is fix this?

What monitor?

can someone think for me please
800usd, what monitor. only requirement is 144hz

>still using my benq XL2420T 120Hz, from when I still had money years ago
>somehow a plate managed to slam into it two years ago, a small dent-looking spot formed the next year
>too poor to replace
>monitor has been slowly developing more and more dent-esque lines
It's not fair bros, one day it'll just suddenly die and I'll be left with a single 60 Hz again.

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Yes.

Strobing basically ensures that the panel only displays frames as intended and eliminates the blurry inbetweens where the whole panel is trying to keep up with the image.

The main downside is potential crosstalk problems which can cause their own kind of ghosting (but depending on the monitor can be eliminated through strobe adjustment tools).

If I don't notice a difference going between my asus ips monitor and my acer chromebook will I be fine with a TN panel? I want best input lag and freesync/gsync performance

OLED is better than CRT in every single way.

It probably would cause issues on older games or emulated games from consoles.

>implying 1440p is worth the price
Until GPU prices drop from the ridiculous level they are at now, it's just not fucking worth it. Fuck all of you faggots who just keep buying overpriced stuff.

It's just developers are lazy so they don't add super wide support because they don't have a big enough audience to warrant it. I had to find a fix to spyro to run like that.

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Except in responsiveness, quality, motion, black levels and refresh rate. OLED however is thinner so that means companies can make them cheaper and ship more.

>Fw900
You may not like it but this is peak performance.

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>1440 not affordable
Imagine being this much of a troglodyte.

I have.
I returned it the next day because refresh rate > resolution

>JUST BUY IT
Imagine being this much of a goyim.

the fuck

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It's on backorder. It wasn't even available a week ago, and a few days ago it was in stock for the 6th.
I placed an order a few hours ago and mine says it will arrive on the 27th

because 2080ti costs $1300 for a good aib.
and it's not even a complete 4k card yet. give it 3-5 more gens before 4k becomes as standard as 1440p.

>be retard OLEDnigger
>monitor image quality severely degraded a year after buying
One thing people never mention is how burn-in degrades image quality before it is noticeable. You don't need to have a perfectly readable taskbar burned into your display for burn-in to be a factor, already 3-4 months into using it burn in will start degrading image quality, most of it isn't a set shape or image so it's hard to notice as a defined shape, instead it just causes shit image quality (one you might even get used to since it is a relatively slow process). You're a fucking retard if you think burn-in is a on/off switch that just flicks after 5 years.

Buy a new OLED screen, wait 6 months, buy an identical new one, put them side by side and compare.

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I have one, it's pretty great.
Inchlets will cope tho

>1080p
Ok boomer

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Dual LCD is where it's at. Hope they can fix 250w powerdraw. But it got perfect blacks with an IPS kind of panel.

Enjoy your backlight bleeding plebian, while I experience true black and perfect color accuracy on my games

>1440
>32"
if you like your low DPI, sure

I wish that were me

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seething

insane input lag and ghosting included

>12" screen

>true black and perfect color accuracy
For a month until the pixels start to degrade and burn in, sure.

I am just a poor college student so I cannot afford expensive monitors.
I'd rather take the higher resolution on a big screen.

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What game is that?

not much, it's the usual 1440p autists who are still trying to justify their purchase

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I wish Sony would make anniversary versions of these monitors or something. With retro in fashion these days, I'm sure these CRTs would sell out in no time if Sony makes them again.

:1 contrast ratio
Lies

Is that Ys?

I got a little square Dell one for 50 cents at a garage sale, and I can see everything just fine.

Sorry, paypigs.

1440p is such an awkward resolution

Is there a good light pack to put behind a 65' tv?

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Mugi looks so cute here
damn

>Light accessories for my TV

Zoomers...

Modern panel have anti-burn in technology now and can prevent burn in unless you turn on the tv for month. Most "burn in" test are extreme stress test where the panel are running continuously for months. For normal use, it is fine for 5 years at least

Wrong in all regards. You should brush up your OLED knowledge.

>almost twice the pixles of 1080p
>144hz
>27" and up don't look like shit
>$300
Oh no! I must seethe and cope to justify my horrible 1440p/144hz display!
It sounds like you're the one coping my friend.

Literally the same monitor i've bought three weeks ago, it's just fucking great, the most noticeable upgrade was the IPS panel tho over everything else, coming from a shitty TN of course.

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you can have both. do 1080retards really?

You should brush up on your OLED knowledge.
youtube.com/watch?v=V8BVTHxc4LM
youtube.com/watch?v=tvRyVZWuvQ4
Sorry you backed the horse that was just cheaper for them, turns out they weren't selling us better tech, just cheaper tech.

nah this is wrong
LG for example has their own panel tech, and currently they have the fastest 1440p144hz IPS panels, not quite 1ms but closer than anything else especially newer Innolux (which I have)

>3rd world poorfags
you mean americans?

>CRT
Thanks, but I don't wanna fuck up my eyes even more.

*Ahem*
32" 4K 60hz

>3440x1440p
>Gsync
>120hz
>IPS
>34"
>only 1000€
why dont you have one? works great for me.

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>curved

You have probably never seen a curved monitor in person. I don't own one but they look amazing.

>1000€ for 120hz
you got to be fucking shitting me

1080p & 4k have the same pixel density user so upscaling actually looks great

>34" 21:9
>not curved
the worst part isn't that you believe this, is that you are comfortable posting such a thing.

Curved just doesn't work with a multimonitor setup.

Poor college amerifag here.
Most people where I live in California are poor like me.
3k a month rent is crazy.

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OK
that is what I thought
thank you for the info

27 for that sweet hiPPI

>wastes money on c*nsoles, TVs and fucking arcade cabinets of all things
>"WAAAAAAAAAAH WHY CAN'T I AFFORD A GOOD PC"

I have one and got a stuck pixel. Fuck AOC.
When I upgrade my graphics card I'll get that sweet 1440p 144hz LG screen.

>4ms
Into the trash

>I have always read shit like in Halo anything you aren't looking at going to a low poly model or something.
Well yeah, why would it need to be high quality when you literally can't see it?

>poor
>has the money to live in California
>and the money fill his hobbies, buy consoles, overpriced arcade cabinets and gym equipment

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your replying to a troll image son, this pic is posted daily

that guy posts it in every thread he might actually be autistic

They're better for your eyes since they aren't vomiting blue light on to you from a poorly balanced back light.

Went from 32'' to 40'' and can say 32'' is the sweet spot for immersion and screen space. Above that and you have to look around the screen too much.

>response time half of that necessary to display 144hz
>into the trash

you realize 1ms response times are memes right

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Why are people considering 1440p/144hz a good compromise?
youtube.com/watch?v=pDlfWPXpsmI
The 2080 Ti runs Witcher 3 at 1440p and gets to about 144 fps AT MOST, and gets as low as 60 fps. That's awful, and that's on the BEST card you can buy. I'd strongly prefer a flat 60.

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>demanding game at 1440p/144hz
absolute retard. its 144hz for A & AA and 60-80 for more heavy games

t. 2080ti at 3440x1440p

No one demanded anything. That happened in your head. And that game is 5 fucking years old.

No thank you.
You can go ahead and settle for less, while you pretend to smart.

1ms is literal marketing memes

they usually refer to the mprt rather than the gtg, which is the actually relevant metric. plus that's usually the "maximum" response time possible via maxed out overdrive (which will be completely unusable).

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When it does come the issues will start showing.
This has been the case for every technology ever.

dont reply to me without putting on your glasses and looking at va panels again
retarded brainlet

>bro why doesnt everyone onky buy porsches
retarded brainlet

you do not need to run games at 144fps to enjoy benefits of 144hz.
t.on 144hz for 5 years

Not him but I constantly see people here say that 1440p@144 FPS is somehow a new 1080p@60 FPS, then I see videos like this and wonder if they're actually idiots or just pretending.
>inb4 m-muh ultra is for retards!!!
When the best video card on the market can't handle a 5 year old game on max settings at 1440p@144 FPS, you should consider that maybe, just maybe it's still not fully viable yet.

I have 1080p/144hz and watching a game fluctuate between 60fps to 144fps feels bad user. Upgrading to 1440p is just going to exacerbate the problem, (even with the best video card) is my point.

FALD is pretty cool.
I was wondering if it's feasible for one to DIY their own FALD system.

The only games that benefits from 144 fps are competitive games, and competitive games aren't known for its high intensive graphic. Nobody play CS:GO at 1440p

Sadly that LG has got even worse contrast than most IPS monitors

All games vastly benefit from 144 FPS (aside from those that don't support it, obviously), way more than from increased resolutions in fact, it's just that it's especially important in competitive ones since it actually gives you an advantage there. Also consider , which is the real reason why 1440p@144 FPS is still a bad idea. Maybe 30xx cards will change it, but for now, I'd rather play at 1080p@144 FPS in all games that support it than at 1440p@144 FPS except not really since I'd be forced to often play at 60 FPS even in games that make use of higher refresh rates.

Kys

More like trust fund baby.

>curved
never going to make it

>my consoles
AHAHAHAHHAHAHA

1000 and not even 144

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>console
Youve outed yourself

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do not let it fluctuate, keep it at 60
any fluctuation would be like that at any refresh rate

Correct, but at that point there's almost no point in paying more money for 144 at 1440 if you're just going to gimp it to 60 through software anyway.

I AM SEVERELY MONITORING THIS THREAD

I have a 10 year old IPS I just know will die any day. I have a shitty TN BenQ 144Hz from years ago, god its garbage, and I need to strobe the fucker to get less ghosting. I really regret the BenQ.

I hope I don't fall for one of your tricks, because I am buying a new monitor this year.

Don't trust Yea Forums, just watch YouTube reviews of the monitors you're interested in. Make sure you include videos of "amatuer" non-professional reviewers because they tend to drop the glam from their reviews and tend to focus more on the raw end user experience that you could expect to get.

>buying a monitor that is supposed to burn out in 5 years

What do those videos have to do with OLED being better technology than CRT?

>1080p
I've been using 1440p for years, that's basically unusable at this point. I like having many windows open and viewable at the same time, it feels like how windows was always meant to be used.

When I play fps and multiplayer games, I feel every single frame missing from 144hz. Can a 2080 super really play stuff at 1440p 144hz? In benchmarks, it's more around 80 to 100 fps.

I could make a game that no gpu can run over 15fps, does that make everything not viable?

wouldn't 144hz mainly benefit sidescrolling indie games the most? I mean considering the gold standard for observing motion blur is a scrolling ufo, that would make sense. How many of those games support high frame rate?

Every game can profit from 144Hz and more.

That just means your game is horribly optimized and no one is going to play it. Besides, everything has its exceptions. I'd be willing to give up 144 FPS at 1440p in RDR 2 today, but when you can't even take full advantage of your monitor in a 5-fucking-year old game, yet alone something actually modern, it's just not worth it.

Ok but it would seem like scrolling 2d games would benefit the most.

based retard

No, 60hz would, problem will never be solved on flat panels only mitigated. Platformers are designed for 60hz.

and what if they were designed for 120hz+?

I have an Acer

>1200p
>25" but it looks quite large since it's 16:10
>75hz
>IPS with nice colors and decent blacks
>adaptive sync
>under 200€
I'll switch to 1600p in a few years but for now this is all I need

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You don't have to use ultra just for the sake of using ultra.

I can't play anything with mouse and keyboard anymore under 144hz. 60fps on controller is totally fine, but mouse movements feel weird at lower frame rates. I can basically see every frame drop.

None are, so you get duplicate frames as the monitor is only fed 60 frames and needs to feed you duplicate frame data inconsistently to mitigate tearing.

well that's too bad

Welcome to the dilemma of not having good display technology be the foundation of all display technology. They just throw shit at the walls to get you to buy another.

wouldn't modern game engines let you set the frame rate independent of the game?

You forgot the one thing that ruins it

>32 inches

Should've been 1440p

Based. Faggots caring about response rate are fucking pathetic. Probably coping because they bought overpriced shit.

it’s actually 23.6”

There's a few interestingly enough, even ones assumed to be free of framerate based logic still have it like unreal and source. It's probably never going to go away, it just makes a lot of sense to tie certain things to frame timings. That said, people don't just play new games. I think here especially few people play exclusively new releases.

then what happens when you play a game that's locked to 60? Does freesync adjust the refresh rate down or does the monitor change to 60hz?

what is this? a monitor for ants?

Even worse

When will 4K 244hz be a thing?

>ips
DEAD ON ARRIVAL

24g2

No real point in it. Past 144hz you get diminishing returns.

False

There's a 360hz display and it has been proven to increase your gaming.

6 x 6 = 36

144÷60 = uneven number which introduces tearing and microstutters below anything 100hz.

Been using this one, its not IPS or VA but TN.

amazon.com/Dell-Monitor-S2417DG-24-Inch-Response/dp/B01IOO4SGK

They have a 27 inch model as well.

Proven by who? I've seen multiple tests, with normalfags and pro esports players. Nobody notices a real difference past 144hz.

1.5k:1 contrast ratio actually. It's a thing of beauty

>People saying that 2560x1440 is the minimum now
>when 9 of 10 most selling monitors on Amazon are fullHD

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Been using the 27" version for almost 4 years now and it's still the same price.

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1440p = V8
2160p = V12
and we all know V12 is for faggots

isnt that the point of an ips faggot?

This one is better, 20 bucks cheaper for a slightly better IPS monitor with the same specs and perks. Literally the same screen as the 250 dollar ASUS VG249q, only difference (and 90 dollars in difference) is the lack of adjustable stand. But you can find a cheap vesa mount anyways. I have it and it is great. A diamond find, you can thank me later.

amazon.com/gp/product/B083FMP35T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

Leddit post where a coomsumer talks about the VG242q vs the AOC form OP and nanother brand. Thinks it is the best one out of the three overall. Later in comments another redditor comments on the absolute find that is the VP242q. Doing more research on reddit and comparing the factory specs, you will see the vp and vg are the same monitors minus the stand.

sorry, this is the reddit post I forgot to paste.

reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/el6yfl/asus_vg249q_review/

For me, it's the Samsung SyncMaster 2253LW.

>reddit

Stopped reading there.

haha le epic anti-reddit poster. based dare I say! XD

I've had that monitor for 12 years and counting. When it finally dies on me I don't know what I'll do because even most modern monitors look like shit in comparison and are full of ghosting artifacts.

>worse contrast
>97% sRGB coverage vs 126%
>disgusting filter that blurs text
umm no ty

asus.com/us/Monitors/VP249QGR/specifications/
eu.aoc.com/en/gaming-monitors/24g2u-bk

their contrast is literally the same. if you read the reddit review I posted, he said the AOC has a poor sRGB mode. he literally has tested the three best IPS 24in monitors on the market and thinks ASUS is better outside of the cost. But VP242 is cheaper at 160 for same ASUS monitor.

Cope and seethe.

>one paid ASUS shill said it.
I had the VG259Q and it sucked dick. It had blurry text and awful colors. My guess is the VG249q has the same issues

Based ultrawide chad.

also wide color gamut does not mean it is better. 126% is prob worse than 97% due to overstaturation, and it looks even worse for IPS which saturates color more deeply than TN. This is why that reddit poster thought the ASUS at 97% looks better than the AOC at 126%.

In general most monitor enthusiasts prefer smaller ranges like 97% vs 120%+.

It doesnt mean the panels are the same, idiot. You can literally open them up and find out which panel is in what monitor.

no 259q is worse than 249q, read the reddit post. He tested the 259q as well, and most people who got 259q vs 249q got btfo'd.

>Honestly, colors > response time

Signed, someone who doesnt game.

The fuck are you even talking about. I dont even have any ghosting on my va monitor. When using gsync there is some slight overshoot on pixels but it is barely noticable and non existent with it off.

It's a Samsung 144hz 1440p curved hdr monitor. And I'd rather live with some slight ghosting over shit dark room performance

bros when are we gonna get decent HDR on PC
we get ghetto tier garbage while TVs get good HDR

>decent hdr
The only way to get decent hdr is with oled, local dimming zones are shit

> 1080p

Everyone's switching to 4k. Even ps5 and the new xbox is suppose to have 8k.

p
>AOC
GET OUT.

Enjoying that 30fps?

>dont reply to me without putting on your glasses and looking at va panels again retarded brainlet
Guess you like ghosts in your gaming.

>1080p
PC fats are pathetic.

>caring about glow
I am awake when the sun is up and I have my windows open. I also turn the brightness of my monitors incredibly low and use warmer-color settings on top of it.
If you're noticing glow to such a degree that it's interrupting how you use the monitor, you should probably turn the brightness down, adjust the light warmth to begin with, and maybe consider being awake and in the sun like a normal person instead of doing your best to live in a cave.

Most consoles barerly do 1080p and stable 60, you're lucky to get a stable 30. Hope you don't think the ps5 or sexbox can handle 4k aside from low quality indie games.

Xbox One X was already doing native 4k in some games.
Cope more.

you mean a bunch of old ass games

>RDR2
>old
cope

>RDR2 xboxone x
>4k
>60 fps
choose

can't even maintain 30 fps

How do i stop free sync brightness flickering?

1440p 144hz god tier

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a p-panty line!

>350$
>not even ips
Hahahah yeah no