ITT: Pretentious games

Diabotical. Hipster devs thinking they can make a game with the same quality of Quake 3 or Live.

>What make it pretentious?
The only reasons I can think of is that there's no written or spoken dialogue at all in the game (only speech bubbles with images in them depicting events) and the fact that the protagonist dies at the end of the game.

Pretentious game rip offs unoriginal pretentious anime. It's like poetry.

EVA is not pretentious in the least. It's pure kino.

>spoiler
At the very least I hope he dies with a sacrifice, otherwise I call it bullshit.

Now this is peak hipster. Fuck this game.
>popularized the disgusting long, slender 1 pixel wide limbs limb pixel "art" aesthetic
>gameplay consists of point and click and terrible turn based combat
>only voiced character is your basedboy companion who makes pretentious remarks
>twitter integration so that you can tweet your progress
>protagonist sacrifices herself for the better good at the end. SO DEEP! I CLAPPED!

He's pretty much mortally wounded from the start of the game and is keeping himself alive through sheer willpower or something so that he can finish his quest, so it's not all that much of an asspull.

bait

Eva is the very definition of pretentious and is a deep as a puddle. CRAWLING IN MY SKIN

>anime with some of the strongest visually impactful scenes inspired many creators
shocker

>EVA is not pretentious in the least. It's pure kino.

hahahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

vro... I have news for you, faggot

It's forever going to be one of the best and no amount of seething will ever change this.

You're allowed to be a little pretentious

The jackal is keeping him alive because he needs to defeat the black blob, and the jackal is also what is reviving him every time he dies. Once judgement is defeated the jackal doesn't need you any more, so he lets you succumb to the poisoning or whatever it's hinted that your character has. It's up to you if thats an act of mercy or just some deity being a dick.

So? Dragonball Z will forever be one of the best selling anime as well, but there's no doubt it's fucking stupid.

I'm looking for a game that has a guy walk in through the front door of a lighthouse and, apropos of nothing, he's in a space suit in orbit around Earth playing chess with another astronaut.

Being popular doesn't make it good, go cry about not having a gf on Yea Forums you fucking incel.

I hate when you collect four shards in an area and the game cuts into the same pretentious DUDE DEEP WE STOLE THE OPENING SCENE FROM AKIRA flashback

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Celeste is one of the best platformers to come out in years and it's also pretentious shit.
thank god you can skip the story sections

you've posted this before. did the dev rape your mother or something?

The game this screenshot is from is called Hyper Light Drifter. The game itself has little to no dialog and the cutscenes are really shot. What OP is calling "Pretentious" is the big titans who only shows up for like 2 of the 5-second long cutscenes flashbacks and are already dead even before the game started. Really there nothing more then set dressing and I think the bigger problem with what little story the game has is this

>Celeste is one of the best platformers to come out in years
someone post the "how to design a platformer" where its just two simple jump arcs and they draw a bunch of spikes around them

Nah, the whole game is pretentious in its presentation. Hell, I'd even call it chuuni with the whole I'M COUGHING UP BLOOD AND SEEING GHOSTS AND EBIN FLASHBACKS crap that keeps popping up throughout. I like the gameplay, but the presentation is almost unbearably pretentious. Every design choice reeks pretentiousness, ranging from the minimalist menus/UI to the "atmospheric" "soundtrack" that infest it.

Dark Souls 2

>ITT: I don't like it so it's pretentious

Here's an actual one. It attempts to tackle themes like isolation and death and does it in a childish way that doesn't do them any justice. Christian imagery for no other reason than "it looks cool" as well. Does that make it a bad game? No.

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>Christian imagery for no other reason than "it looks cool" as well.
that's most japanese media though

I am willing to see this.

>Inspired
>its a literal rip off

theres a big difference, and you dont understand it, retard.

I looked quickly at the wikipedia page about the game and according to it the game was somewhat inspired by the dev real life heart disease. So that checks out.

It insists upon itself.

True but they go insanely far with it, Joshua is just Jesus translated to English.

that's just not how most of the game is designed straight up

>God, the guy who has a legion of angels uses Joshua as his human name
What is wrong with this again?

Anything Souls or Souls related.

G-g-g-git gud!

found it

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ITT the same thread as before where people don't know what pretentious means and try to use it as criticism. Can't you grow a few braincells?

the fuck are you talking about retard

Well, at least nobody is taking the Pathologic bait, so I guess that is an improvement compared to the last thread.

Is that shit a boss or just a pretty cutscene?

I get sick of the same thread getting posted every single day with the same exact image.

>same thread as yesterday

Cutscene

it's not even out yet retard

>whats wrong with an imitation of christ that's a retarded anime character that acts completely contrary to christ's teachings

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Did Kaizo Mario and IWTBTG start this?

Not gonna argue with some low IQ trog that casually drops the r-word.

You're angry because people don't share your opinion about something.

Prove it.

Will be the same pretentious shit, you shithead.

retard

Use the archive. This thread is an almost 1:1 repeat of a thread yesterday.

Every single game is pretentious depending how you look at them!

I won't lie, I have never played this game, but it always looks so pretentious to me. Like, it's about seven stages of grief, it seems like it's all to it. I don't know how you can make anything deep with such basic and overrated concept.
But I might be wrong, like I said, I never played it.

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>2/27
>yesterday
retard

Oh, I agree the game is very up its own ass and while I enjoyed the gameplay and the game looks nice, I dislike the fact the devs tried way too hard to show how "cool and artistic" with how minimalist most things are in-game.

Its deliberate vagueness with its story, for one its not that interesting once you know what it is, its a bunch of tired fantasy and anime tropes, and secondly there is very little to actually interpret as your own, so why make it vague at all?

So you're saying it's forced deep?

>w-well technically

>make stupid claim
>get proven wrong
>whine
Quit gagging on my cock

Here's how I would define a pretentious game.

>tries too hard to be deep and epic and cinematic, yet it also tries to fumble awkward comedy inbetween
Good example would be Xenoblade. Too much awkward, stupid comedy, from protags that have the intelligence of a goldfish. They cry about their feelings while making awkward slapstick. It's total garbage.

>talks about religion at all, as if it has any right to shit on an institution that's thousands of years old with surface level fedora tier "facts" (it'd be like paying 60 dollars to visit /pol/, and then buying a season pass to post there)
Good example would be Grandia 2. From the moment I saw the fat pope, I knew he was gonna be the bad guy. The game isn't even subtle about it, and it's downright insulting how little thought was put into such a poor excuse of a plot. Might as well have had a guest starring role from Rick and Morty.

>sacrifice videogamey mechanics because they're not "adding to the lore"
Here's one not alot of people know: the dev of Gone Home purposely scrapped and cut out multiple segments of their """game""" because, and I quote from the commentary, "it would've felt too videogamey and taken away from the deep story about true love". For example, one segment would involve you finding three pieces of a key to open a door, but that felt too videogamey, and the dev hated it.

Another example of this would be alot of Ps4 games like God of War. The game tries so hard to be this dark and brooding cinematic art film, and yet it's filled with moments where you're just walking down a hallway, or slowly lumbering down a hallway. There's a great webm of sped up gameplay where Kratos is doing nothing but hauling monsters down a hallway for 5 minutes to weigh down a switch. There's no reason for it and there's no way to skip it or speed it up. It's literally just there to pad out time.

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Yes, what's wrong with that?

Not him but you sound indeed like very stupid retard.

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Forced deep and pretty hard too

> as if it has any right to shit on an institution that's thousands of years old with surface level fedora tier "facts"
Everybody has that right. Something doesn't deserve respect and reverence just because it's old. Masturbation is older than religion, but I'm not going to bow and pay respects to everybody who mentions whacking off.

Is SMT prententious to you?
Because it sure as fuck doesn't have religious characters be 100% identical to their original versions

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Hardcore pretentiousness. A braindead easy puzzle platformer with a wannabe-Bastion narrator who's directly telling the player how they should feel about the atmosphere of each stage.
>"You are in a dark cave. This is very mysterious..."
>"You are in a hot volcano. You want to go home."
>"You are in an icy mountain. Aren't you cold?"
>"The darkness is chasing you. Be afraid...!"
Then the game ends with the narrator revealing that YOU covered the planet in darkness, and you have to replay the game under time pressure to get the true ending because... ???
I didn't waste my time on a second playthrough but my hunch is that the true ending would involve you sacrificing yourself to destroy the darkness and the narrator patting you on the back for it.

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The date doesn't matter. One day two or two, this thread is a repeat of another with hardly any difference.

Reminder that this asshole didn't use delta timing and programmed the game with 30FPS in mind, then finally admitted he fucked up and spent months making a 60FPS patch after it released. Gamemaker- never again

@497808041
>make stupid thread
>get proven retarded
>whine
dare I say... btfo?

10/10

kek

>so mad about getting BTFO he @s
old leller

Nice

Okay so what games ACTUALLY fit this definition?

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you simply cannot call something pretentious unless you know exactly what the thing you are calling is going for. I doubt any of you who have posted are the devs, writers or have even read one interview about the thing. Unless you call something that is artsy pretentious in which case you don't know what that word means. Can we get good threads again and not the same 5 over and over?

>hey dude can I copy your work?
>yeah just change it a little so it isn't obvious

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It's ok when Japan does it don't you see!?

Blasphemous

is right. You don't know what a game tries to express to exactly what extent unless you have made it or are the lead writer or whatever so calling something out for having less extent without any evidence is retarded.

I THINK OP SUCKS!

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I'm not appealing to age or historic relevance, but rather I'm just saying that quoting Rick and Morty isn't gonna somehow disprove religion.

>Christian imagery for no other reason than "it looks cool" as well.
>he says while posting a game that is essentially a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah with actual angels in it
Are you legitimately retarded?

That's fair. I'm just disagreeing that there's anything wrong with shitting on a thousands-of-years-old institution. It's more about how it's done.

See Also pic related. All you do is walk around in a procedurally generated forest.

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I think many games, its not like there is that much important stuff in life

>that one guy is extremely angry by OP and keeps coming back to these threads to express his indignation
He must be a dev

Most indie trash trying desperately to make deep art that's usually nothing more than cell shaded pastels and generic gameplay.

As far as I know the guy who made celeste actually made a kaizo mario romhack before.

>TWEWY
>pretentious
Elaborate

@497808652
thanks for the (You)s kind stranger

not a game

Nier A
Oyasumi Punpun
Blade Runner 2049 (OG Blade Runner was kino)

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NOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST USE MY RELIGION FOR WINDOW DRESSING

Doki Doki Literature Club's criticisms of visual novels and anime tropes feels pretentious and shallow and fails to make any significant new points
Its scares are literally creepy pasta level and the bad kind. Yuri even literally sports hyper realistic eyes.

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Kino

You fell for their bait.

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every indie Earthbound clone, especially Undertale

Okay fedora tipper.

>>tries too hard to be deep and epic and cinematic, yet it also tries to fumble awkward comedy inbetween
>Good example would be Xenoblade. Too much awkward, stupid comedy, from protags that have the intelligence of a goldfish. They cry about their feelings while making awkward slapstick. It's total garbage.

Sounds like FFIX as well.

i've never seen an eroge with its head so far up its own ass as nier automata

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Hyper Light Drifter is a kickstarter game that had a chunk of it binned before it release. I don't think it's as pretentious as some make it out to be, more like "we had all these ideas and realized we couldn't afford it all then picked our favourites." So you have all this big hype for shit that means jack (big spoopy biorobots, black ooze, dog god) and level design all over the place (ancient temple swamp, deserted undergound lab, crystal forest) that results in the player having to string what little story there is together themselves. I think it comes of as pretentious to people who read to much into it. It's just supposed to be cool backdrop for the action to take place in, like explosions in a Michael Bay film. It's not some 3deep5you game story or play wise. It's literally a bunch of people who got together and went "wouldn't it be cool if?" and made a game. They just needed to come up with their own ideas and apply some goddamn focus.

And to slap whoever implemented the hidden collectibles.

pic related is what I consider pretentious. Concept is alright but the core play loop is pretty weak and the narrative is so heavy handed it's almost laughable. Robot concentration camps and QTEs to break through programming? C'mon man. I like games that can make you think but not when it's presented like this.

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bait

not bait
sorry but my microwave does not have feelings and i will not recognize it as a person

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recipe for pretentious games
>indie
>pixel art-style
>twist to subvert the player and lead to...
>some sort of "deep" message

Never played it but the first that comes to mind is that gay ass RPG game with the skeleton guy who laughs. I can't even think of the fucking title but I know the plot is pretentious as fuck and revolves around you killing or not killing in a fucking turn based styled game where you get some twisty ending or some shit if you didn't kill anyone and the game tries to tell you you're a good or bad person.

Hotline Miami also comes to mind with it's fucking "conversation with the devs" at the end, and it's gay message about violence if you pick the right dialogue options, but it gets a slight pass because the game itself is fun

robots != machinery

> You can't save every one
> Unless you save scum

haven't played #2 yet but there was absolutely nothing exceptionally deep about the original. like if you don't get the gaia:body:city metaphor that's some real brainlet shit.

This but unironically. Game is hailed as 10/10 GOTY, but the combat, sidequests, and world detail is pure shit, not to mention you have to play the same game twice with slightly different events. Game is no more than good and people only think it's anything above good because of 2B and her ass.

there was nothing pretentious in HK though

>hide a simplistic overused theme (emergence of conscience in robots) into layers and layers of vagueness
>lonely places and melancholic music all the way through
>insert songs for climaxes battles with gods / all powerfuls fags
Here you go, the formula for a deep™ jap game every weeb will hail as a masterpiece

Why do you keep making this thread?

because it's a common and fun talking point to discuss?

I see what he means, another way to put it is that HLD forces obscure storytelling techniques into what was otherwise a very simple and straightforward story.
They probably did it to pad the game out.
It would've been a lot better story wise if they had just been a bit more expositive

the difference is that celeste is a good video game with good mechanics unlike mario world

it's just a pretty game that uses visual metaphors very well
as you said, it's nothing particularly deep, but it's not trying to be something more than "visual storytelling with pretty pictures"

high IQ post

is this an Eva reference, dude
I LOVE ASUKA"

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OP is a fag

>Blade Runner 2049
Haven't seen the rest, but this? BR is incredibly direct to the point and in line with BR with everything it does.

>emergence of conscience in robots
that is not at all what Automata is about.
The machines and the androids are established to be people from the start, there is no emergence, it is not treated as something unusual.

That's true of the other two things he posted too. Dude's just a brainlet

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Not him but seriously consider ending yourself if you think punpun is anything but pretentious.

It's suffering porn and it doesn't try to be anything deeper than that

It does.
>all that cool vibrations shit
Gritted my teeth everytime I had to read through those parts.

Yeah, and remind me where that stuff went in the end. How is it affecting greater importance than is actually possessed?

Pretentious has become a code word for "thing I don't like or is moderately artsy".

Wot if ya mum was a computer

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Can't you beat that game by going backwards

You beat the game by not buying it

That's not really an argument, is it?

>stealing imagery from nausicaa of the valley of the wind
coward

I think you mean based, every game should have god warriors

Hollow Knight

Fallout 4

Your post is even more pretentious because you're obviously trying to look superior by citing Nausicaa instead of Evangelion.

Hunt Down The Freeman

It's not God Warriors, though.
It's very transparently a reference to Evangelion.

This entire thread is pretentious.

So was this game good? I remember wanting to get it but didn't

One of the first big pretentious indies

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It was ok/blah

its got impressive visuals but its more of the same of its genre

>It's obscure so it must be good!
Every pseud thinking artsiness makes it any less shit as the popular shit. Shit is shit.

Fuck I laughed too hard at this

Eh. It’s a simple story about overcoming depression with a simple metaphor. I don’t think it’s pretentious. It’s not like the game acts like it’s more complicated than it really is

ITT : games the user posting just doesn't like

Pic related also has one of the most annoying fanbases in vidya.

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I love Monika!

Nier A is fantastic. I guess you could say that naming several of the robots after entry level philosophers was pretentious but I don't think anyone seriously thought "Oh, there's a robot named Satre, there had better be a serious examination of radical freedom or whatever". It's clearly just windows dressing.

>calls a story element that is full presented 1 hour into the game as hidden in layers of vagueness
not sure if ign level fag or actual braindead

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I know some anons are angry, but Hyper Light Drifter really is pretentious in its presentation. It's visually pretentious.

The only prtetentious part about this website is people preteniousing to be retarded.

Bioshock Infinite is probably the most pretentious and retarded game I've ever played.
>killing booker apparently prevents comstock from existing
>forgets about the other universes where comstock still exists
I can't exactly remember the exact details, but i remember how retarded the ending was. feel free to correct me if i got anything wrong though.

Big chungus has left the chat.

Actual pretentious games:

The Stanley Parable
Braid
Kentucky Route Zero
The Witness

The Witness is a really great game but the 2deep4u factor is undeniable

Super Meat Boy actually did first.

IWBTG and KM were before SMB

>kaizo mario release date 2007
>super meat boy release date 2010
hmmm...

>Blade Runner 2049
Wrong.
If you searching for pretentious Sci-Fi movie, then there is only one right answer:
Interstellar

it was kinda fun but yep, the pretentiousness ruined it. Also see : Braid and anything by Jonathan Blowhard

yes, the map design is interesting

>it's impossible
>it's necessary
kino

They had the decency to be free and a rom, not super meat boy.

Add ALL the personas there, personality/life shit is not deep

>It's the game's fault it has a shit fanbase
Anything relatively popular is going to have a shit fanbase, regardless of quality. The way you feel about the Persona fanbase must be how I feel about those insufferable JoJo faggots
Holy fuck dude why can't they contain their cancer?

>randomly brings up Jojo
Your butthurt is showing.

I've played it for a bit. It's a nice looking wallpaper, but the game part is boring since it's full of those puzzles that you pretty much figure out fast, but actually completing them is a chore. Like Limbo/Inside. Also weak writing. Over all Journey did it way better.

The lifetime achievement award in pretentiousness.

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>I got filtered so it's pretentious

>dude your game's just a walking simulator
>"nooo you just don't get it"

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YIIK

Not so much the game being pretentious but the player base.
Also git gud sped you suck balls.

are you sure you're not confusing it with p3? there's nothing particularly pretentious about p5.

Reminder that Hyper Light Drifter is so pretentious that they made a "secret language" plastered on 16 monoliths throughout the game which contains the simplistic plot.

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The Company of Myself

Joshua's a real name, stop being triggered because some nip vidya made reference to your precious cult.

light reference =/= imitation

Obscuration of a simple narrative can be fine if the obscuration in itself is interesting and engaging. Return of the Obra Dinn, for instance, is a very simple story (almost disappointingly so, when you've pieced it all together), but the method of seeing a snapshot of events corresponding with each death of the crewmembers, in a non-chronological order, actually makes the simple story very engaging to unravel and piece together.
With games like Hyper Light Drifter, the problem is that the obscuration isn't fun to sift through, AND it's unrewarding to do so.

People calling Automata shallow while only citing a plot point that's spelled out almost immediately as if it's a hidden revelation really got old quick.

Scattering the story in random pickups/secrets throughout the entire map is the worst storytelling possible and I wish indie devs who do this understood how retarded they're being.

I'm pretty sure 99% of the people familiar with Rain World's backstory just read it on the wiki.

Same with people saying it's only liked because of 2B or that you need to play through it a million times to see the true ending. It's very weird how that game triggers retards so hard.

Infinite realities is soooo deep. Fuck this pretentious shit sequel.

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Nausicaa is actually liked by people that don't even like anime. Not pretentious

Is it really pretentious if there isn't a single spoken word in the game?

This. I feel like it's a misinterpretation and poor imitation of Dark Soul's method of unveiling narrative through item descriptions.
The reason it falls short to understand and copy DS, is because DS actually places the items/lore in relevant places, so that if a player reads each description as they pick up the items, the narrative is still unravelled in impactful, relevant ways.
Indie devs just like to scatter it all over the place arbitrarily. Putting it behind a platform challenge is more important than putting it in a location which aids the storytelling.

The intro, it's a great game.
youtube.com/watch?v=9rVdUufUBss

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No it isn't

I'm going to do it I'm going to post it.

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How so? not killing when you can spare is not that deep and the games don't makes it look deep

it's more of a visual novel, with an rpg theme.
and only has one Good boss fight.

though the ost is kino,I will admit that.

NaissanceE comes off as pretentious but it just turns out to be loads of exploration, puzzles, platforming, and eye candy, nothing more, no story no meaning. I actually played through it some 4 times and if I ever get a VR set I'm gonna play it some more. Maybe try it with some DUDE.

It's literally fucking studio ghibli. I watch like every one of their movies. I haven't seen eva, haven't seen cowboy bebop, saw a little bit of samurai champloo, don't play seen visual novel crap. And I know I'm not the only one

*don't play weeb

Only weebs watch Nausicaa.

Evangelion did the same thing user

The story is such a pretentious trash too

Laughed

This was a PS Plus game years ago.

I've never been so mad at something free.

I played it and didn't get far.
It's a beautiful game, visually. But it's a fucking walking simulator

I can never watch nausicaa after reading that one doujin.

it's taken the innocence out of nausicaa loving bugs.

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true but i loved every min of it.

based

can confirm, lots of randoms I know that "like anime" that have only watched Ghibli films, Nausica being one of them

Fukkin Saved

t. samefaggot

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As much as I hate söy face, ya' fuckin' got me. I love HLD too much to hate this.

>ö
pretentious

half life 2 is pretentious as fuck and really shits on the legacy of the original

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>conversation with the devs
That one makes sense in-game so it gets a pass

>not giving them glasses on all 4 eyes
you had one job

You can't even explain why it's pretentious you pretentious retard.

Super Meat Boy was inspired by N by metanet software

Unpopular opinion coming through

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This is what a legitimately pretentious game looks like.

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>It's SUPPOSED to be irritating with terrible awkward controls to boot
you could play this, or literally anything fucking else

Yeah, even beyond that the amount of significance the game puts on itself is almost satire like. I beat it because I enjoy challenging games, but it really wanted you to think it was a spiritual journey or something.

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Fuck you, I liked it

Yeah
Soundtrack is nice though

I assumed that the Booker you specifically play as is THE Booker where all the Comstocks originated from so if he's killed then it stops all the Comstocks

is this humor?

>This entire thread

he meant to type önions

It's solid. Good artwork and animation (subjective, but whatever), the puzzles, while simple, never got too boring since they kept changing slightly. It's about 4 hours' worth of vidya, and I definitely didn't regret playing it. Very solid sountrack too.

>It's a platformer, but also s story about depression!
I hate this shit do much.

Have you played it? I have it but haven't gotten around to trying it, but it looks pretty enough, and I'd say the theme isn't something you see in many games.

Haven and it isn't even out yet.

i really enjoyed it but what do i know

The robot is very reminiscent of both EVAs and god-warriors. Specifically the scene where they show the 7 days of fire

man, I sure love evangelion

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Blasphemous is unironically deep af though. It basically does what Dark Souls tries to do lore-wise but with actual research and knowledge of the source.

OP is a brainlet if he thinks this game is pretentious. its literally the opposite. it's minimalist and straightforward as can be.

posting actual pretentious game. fuck this utter trash

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What is EVEN pretentious about it?

the game actually triggered games journalists who thought there was actually stolen content in there

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How can you tell something is pretentious if the guy that was directing or writing it doesn’t state what he was going for?
Only games like YIIK come to mind that can actually be called pretentious because the dev kept insisting it was something deeper and meaningful when it clearly wasn’t all that he claimed it to be.

It insists upon itself

FF7 Remake

I don't know what is worse, how pretentious this game is or the fanbase.

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Yeah, this one counts

I just told you, it attempts to use death and isolation as its core themes and then rather than address them just goes "friends are great mkay". Neku's best friend kills himself and he NEVER, not once wonders what happened to him in the game.

Are you feeling ok user?

YIIK actually is deep, watching running shine meme on the game doesn't mean you got it.

Well, like most things on Yea Forums, it's projection. People just assume certain motives and then judge based on that. I'd say a good example of a "pretentious" game is Cultist Simulator, but only after you hear the designer talk about it. Doesn't necessarily make it a bad came, CS is actually quite entertaining.

how retarded do you have to be to think the game's story is actually true? just slightly more than thinking the story is good?

Hyper light drifter HAS A SPECIAL THANKS TO ZOE QUINN AND ANITA SARKEESIAN in the credits.

Sexy Hiking, on the other hand, is a masterpiece

It's funny how easily is to spot retards who didn't play Automata but will shit on it just to be contrarians

kek

>blah blah blah

Yeah, overcoming depression, cute. And do you know why the MC is a woman? Because you can't make a game like that based on a guy because the guy wouldn't have a fucking support system or be able to "maintain" a relationship with his SO (since most of the time, she'd bounce,) etc. etc. No there wouldn't be any cutesy fucking story for a male MC, it would just be him, alone, with the fucking spikey stages, dying over and over again, alone. Fuck Celeste.

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You ok bro?

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Bioshock Infinite definitely.

Any pretentious games that are actually good?

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Just reading Bioshock Infinite feels like someone is twisting my nuts because of the sheer disappointment that game was, fuck that ending, fuck that “plot”, fuck those interviews, fuck everyone that worked on it.

OFF, though the turn-based system is pretty standard

meat boy was inspired by jumper, which was an earlier game made by the creator of celeste. you can even unlock the character from jumper as a playable character in super meat boy

if I really liked this game and Night In The Woods, what are other shitty pretentious games that follow their examples?

Based and blackpilled.

I would play the shit out of male celeste as described

Remember this shit?

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Infinite was one of the first triple A games to spontaneously acquire the hamfisted 'fuck white people' narrative. The marketing years back made it sound as if you could actually choose to side with the founders or the vox populi, as though these were both legitimate choices. The trailers promised so much.
(((Ken Levine)))

iirc it isn't even pretentious, the creator is just the world's most prolific cocksucker
I haven't played it though

Fez is not pretentious though, it’s the creator that is pretentious as fuck.

Same. The game could be good but it's only going to be remembered for phil fish. Nowadays it is probably just mediocre nowadays since the indie game competition had risen massively since then.

I feel like half the Anons in this thread can't understand what a complex Shitpost is and think some of the games they're posting are supposed to be taken seriously.

People in this thread need to learn the difference between a pretentious game and a game with a pretentious dev. Just because the dev has his head up his ass doesn't mean the game is too.

Kojima is pretentious enough for me to stay clear of this game.

KEK

Just a bunch of pretentious shitposting.

Couldn't get more pretentious than this desu

A good example would be Nuclear Throne Rami Ismail who is a fucking asshole with his head up his ass but the fact remains that NT is a good game that isn’t pretentious.

>Neku's best friend kills himself
No he fucking doesn’t. He died in a goddamn accident before the events of the game even happened, while he was on his way to meet up with Neku. Neku himself lost his memory as his Entry Fee and thus, couldn’t remember shit about why he was anti-social in the first place. Play the game again, retard.

The game used all these tropes but in a separate game I totally wouldve still gunned for Yuri, even if she was psycho. Like how is it supposed to discourage me? The only bad part was her killing herself. If she hadn't I totally wouldve done it. All in all, it fails in trying to be scary, since I'm too horny.

how is it a ripoff?

This too, Yuri best girl, her obsessive parts in act 2 were absolutely greatest and her insane faces make me want to COOOM. I'd love to cut myself with Yuri too.

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YIIK if the creator's assmad podcast interview is to be believed.

Death Stranding

Post the other clips

It would have been better if it didnt turn to meta horror and just continued normally after Sayori killed herself

oh god yes, fucking braid. decent puzzling, visuals and music, with a pretentious as fuck "story" shoehorned in

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go and explain how its pretentious you pussy

Lol. Imagine having no support network whatsoever, not even a couple of people, and thinking it’s solely because you have a penis.

The protagonist of Celeste overcomes her issues 95% alone. She gets very minimal encouragement from an old lady at the beginning, and then she gets light advice from an acquaintance that falls apart as soon as shit gets too real.
Looking at this story and saying
>waah! She only overcomes her problems because of female privilege!
is fucking pathetic desu senpai

>t. brainlet who completely missed the point

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really wish this game had had a bit more of a budget so they could develop some actual lore, even if it would have made it pretentious to some people. Like if they did some dark souls shit with it where they don't shove the lore in your face if you don't care about it, but it's there if you want to seek it out. Post-apocalyptic future shit is my jam.

Probably, yeah, Sayori's depression worsening due to Monika kinda undermines it to me.

>haven't played #2 yet but there was absolutely nothing exceptionally deep about the original. like if you don't get the gaia:body:city metaphor that's some real brainlet shit.
Now explain to me what the agency of each of the three characters is supposed to represent.

But to be fair, Pathologic isn't as much about testing your intelligence, as it is about testing your character. P2 even more so.

Joshua isn't God, he's not even an angel.

bro its just a cool looking game how the fuck is it visually pretentious?

This game is the definition of pretentious but it's still my favorite puzzle game of all time

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jesus christ you fucking bafoon its not because something isnt deep that its pretentious
you want the fucking game to have expositive dialogue explaining obvious shit like this so it isnt pretentious to you?

NuDoom

Isn’t it just a bunch of puzzles in a cool world to search for them?
How is that pretentious?

I don't think Yea Forums is a good place to discuss pretentiousness, since for that you first would have to think.

Clearly you haven't played it, because there is "plot" presented by audiologs with boring quotes, equally boring videos that talk about nothing, and the true ending sequence is "deep".

All video games are pretentious, except for maybe Pong

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It ends with a fucking nuke. Come on.

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He’s essentially the god of Shibuya, and is, as far as the denizens of the UG are concerned, is their equivalent to God considering how none of them are aware of the existence of the Higher Plane. Hell, Joshua ain’t even his real name.

Every single japanese game that isn't by Fromsoft

>sorry but my microwave does not have feelings and i will not recognize it as a person
that was the point

Did you play the game?

>Knew a furfag that didn't even touch anime
>He only liked Studio Ghibli and I remember watching Nausicaa at this house.
>Knew a teacher that literally approached students that said they liked anime and she talked about how Studio Ghibli anime were the only ones she ever saw.
Ghibli is literally for normalfaggots, so you're not wrong.

user, that happens in that doujin?

>It ends with a fucking nuke.
How is that pretentious? I thought all of the characters' stories being connected and acting as a domino effect was pretty kino

If this is "bad" design, then what is good design? Celeste does this, but it has enough gimmicks in its stages to make most jumps interesting.

Those were fine but people thought they had success because of this particular design.
Which is WRONG

Nice one.

we had the same thread yesterday and i still dont know how everyone in this thread is defining pretentious

The pretentiousness comes from the "nothing matters in life broooo dude nihilism lmao" aspect. The apocalypse catalyst happens off screen and then you're told about how it's fine and shit. It's awful, fuck hotline miami 2. It was so bad it ruined 1 for me.

It's "thing I don't like that people use big words to talk about"

The only correct answer so far.

See? It's like he didnt take into account the fact there are people who are the equivalent of extremophiles on the internet, who are either completely immune to wierd shit, or actually attracted by it.

It really does. I thought they we're trying to convey that Sayori's depression can't be cured by another person, even if they loved her. Good message even if it's obvious because I know people that have gotten into relationships trying to fix depressed people, and depressed people looking for relationships thinking the fleeting happiness it gives them is all they need.

The point is not nothing matters, it's that things did matter, but people chose a path that became irreversible, meaning it was out of the hands of you, the player, as well as the character Richter.

Why are you even on Yea Forums?

Do you not see the irony in valuing aritistic integrity while being a bunch of unoriginal hacks Yea Forums? How’s that soiboy edit coming along?

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>actually physically gritting your teeth when reading something you don’t like

It’s not pretentious, you just have autism.

>The pretentiousness comes from the "nothing matters in life broooo dude nihilism lmao" aspect.
You literally missed the point.
The point was that actions, no matter how small had large-scale consequences. Everyone fell for the Janitor's plan, even the Colonel, and who knows where the Janitors are now, probably hiding in that bunker they set up years ago.
Everyone were pawns that had to be sacrificed to protect the King.
I wish we got a Hotline Miami 3 that was a post-apocalyptic Hokuto/LISA type story about Biker hunting down the Janitors in the post-apocalypse

Well the idea that nothing matters in the end is an awful take on nihilism and whenever someone pukes this philosophy in a piece of media it's always bad, it's Rick and Morty tier shit.
And no, the point of the story in the end is that nothing matters because you're gonna die in the end anyway and it's out of your control and that all the stories you experienced and characters you met are wiped away by a nuke.

Oh, so you just missed the point then. Gotcha.

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>Proteus' magic happens in the three things a screenshot is missing: motion, music and interaction.
>has none

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You could say Monika herself has no idea anyone would find that attractive. So it'd be more on Monika?
Either way, I want someone to be this obessed with me as Yuri was

IT INSISTS

It's short, but fun.

r u ok user

played it and it didn't feel pretentious at all, only encouraging. i dont see it.

The entire day Sayori killed herself was the most hamfisted, worst section in the entire VN. If it had continued normally after that with everyone ablooblooing over her garbage suicide I would've dropped it.

was with you until this post user

Speaking of pretentious...

cringiest game i've ever played

Is this game still 30fps? I kind of want to play it just for the ost and aesthetics

Your mom is a pretentious game

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The fuck? lol

actual low IQ posts

This so much, most pretentious "game" I ever played. More like an art school project.

Jesus christ, this. IDK which is worse this or talos principle but both have this stupid ass idea that a simple puzzle game has to have this super "deep" story. Mabey its people trying to ape off of myst.

Do it yourself pussy

I have a love-hate relationship with Doki Doki
On one hand, its concept is literally a shitty creepypasta like you said, if you put this game's story on a text it would look no better than Sonic.exe.
On the other hand, the art is really well done and it's all presented pretty well and Yuri is top tier waifu material and some of the mods that exist for it are either very cool or hilarious

It doesnt make sense because there are infinite realities so the events of the game only take that specific coruse in so many of them

I mean, them realising whats happening and killing booker preventing comstock from existint happens in that reality but not in all those realuties where for example booker may snap atthe last second refuse his fate and kill elizabeth. Infinite possibilities and realities existing means you can change the course of events no matter what.

There were also so many other stupid plot holes it isnt even worth talking about it the plot was trash

This shitheap of a board almost exclusively has recurring threads every fucking day

Great pic, then just add "if you make the jump it means you overcome depression" and boom victim points for you.

>was
what's the point of this retarded grammar? like the game doesn't fucking exist anymore

>witness
fans of this game are even more pretentious.

so I can make dumb ironic shitpost, hbu?

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>The fuck? lol
Pathologic and Pathologic 2 test primarily patience, caution, attention, and also reward empathy and self-awareness and ability to be a bit self-reflective. All of those are parts of a good character in my book.

You realize that's how inspiration works, right?

>talks about religion at all, as if it has any right to shit on an institution that's thousands of years old with surface level fedora tier "facts" (it'd be like paying 60 dollars to visit /pol/, and then buying a season pass to post there)
What if it's something more complex like how KCD is handling it?

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the "story" was completely optional
a pretentious game would think it's story was so amazing and deep that it would shove its story in your face

Didn't like it. Didn't like it

I legitimately liked this game up until the ending.
I felt the ending was a big pretentious slap in the face to people who were trying to give the game a chance despite the Raiden twist. Having that kino final boss fight and then transitioning into Snake giving a 2deep4u speech despite the fact the idiot literally jumped into the Ocean to swim after a giant fucking mech was fucking terrible after all that cool Solidus shit. It felt like a fucking inspirational speech lecture and I hated every second of it.
The only redeeming factor afterwards was that cool after-credits reveal. But then MGS4 and MGSV undo the entire fucking impact of the reveal.
Fuck Kojima-tards that kiss his ass over this shitty game whilst praising MGSV in the same breath.

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>Complains about "I don't like it so it's pretentious"
>Literally posts "Rule of Cool Imagery" the game which was never intended to have depth
Holy shit you're retarded. It's a fucking Nomura game, not a fucking Kojima game.

That's called homage to be fair.

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>itt we use a word that we don't understand to define a game that we are extremely retarded to understand even though the game isn't trying to convey shit

Man Anno though Nausicaa's god warriors were so cool he made a toku short film about them then said fuck it and just turned them into Evas in his own shit.

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>when sọybots attack

>Christian imagery
is overrated anyway
people make analogies or references to jesus and no matter what, it doesn't amount to anything
>lol he sacrifce self for sin
that doesnt even really mean anything but someone being egotistical enough think he was worth that much more than everyone else
the only things that could matter are any psychoanalytical and physiological term references

Unironically nu-Wolfenstein
TNO was still acceptable but teetering towards pretentiousness, but because the game didn't throw as much lore, there was no reason to doubt it.
But now with the new games, we now learn that the US resistance still survived, whilst the entire European resistance is dead, despite the fact that Finland and Russia are almost unconquerable as fuck.
We are expected to believe a dark and serious story about a post-WWII world where the Nazis won, but we see the Nazis are completely united and there's no fucking internal conflict?
We also see jackshit of Africa during WWII and we see no Libya, Algerian or Morrocan Fascists during this period despite the large number of them existing during this period. Furthermore Franco, Mussolini and Hirohito are nearly fucking nonexistant, save for them somehow getting nuked by Hitler.
Yet we're somehow expected to believe that this is a darker and serious story when the entire scenario is so cartoonishly unrealistic? And that occultshit isn't "realistic" enough for this scenario when we have pseudo-science instead?
We are also somehow expected to believe that no new ideologies are being made and that facsism has conquered everything and mindbroken everyone so hard that nobody is thinking of shit like Anarcho-Primitivism or Eco-Facisim? Or anything more batshit crazy than this? We're somehow expected to believe a bunch of fucking Krautfaggots managed to kill the entire middle-east when thousands of civilizations have failed in the past? We're somehow expected to believe Italy and Spain would give their throne to the ROMAN EMPIRE to a bunch of fucking Krauts?
And yet the game lectures me about how American conservatives were the real bad guys?
Okay buddy, yeah sure. Please do that. Ignore the fact that Chamberlain, the anglo-hippie politician literally gave Czechoslovakia and all it's weapon factories to Hitler on a silver platter.

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How about some actual, big-budget pretentiousness?

youtube.com/watch?v=QBE2AAe65lc

>We are also somehow expected to believe that no new ideologies are being made and that facsism has conquered everything and mindbroken everyone so hard that nobody is thinking of shit like Anarcho-Primitivism or Eco-Facisim?
How many new ideologies do you get popping up in Soviet Union or North Korea? Nazism is just communism without pretense humanism.

Now despite my rant, you might be wondering what I actually find pretentious about it and why I had to write a paragraph pointing out lore inconsistencies.
The point is, the game has American minorities rant at another American minority about racism, whilst ignoring the rest of the world, yet still acting like the rest of Europe and it's history is identical to that of America, and that likewise, most blacks regardless of nations would willingly join the resistance, despite history showing that Franco had many Algerian and Morrocan Facists under him because many of them hated France and Arabs (for good reasons too). But the game chooses to ignore that despite being an alternate-history scenario and the game has almost all the time to explain itself throughout the course of three fucking games, two of which set in Europe.
But no the entirety of those three games is just "MUH US RACISIM" and "MUH KRAUTS"
Oh and whilst you're at it. Yes, please. Do depict the Scottish patriot as being a bad person, despite the fact that the Scotts were subjugated under the Anglos, please. Proceed to feed me your dumb eternal anglo propaganda whilst ignoring literally everything that isn't England, France, Germany and US.
Fuck this shitty series and it's stupid attempts at lecturing people.

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>How many new ideologies do you get popping up in Soviet Union or North Korea?
Tons, that's literally the reason the Soviet Union collapsed so easily, too much internal politics and infighting over ideology.
NK is a different story because they have a literal eternal Emperor who actively executes everyone that even says a single word that doesn't go with ideology
>inb4 Hitler
Except, it's been established Hitler is wasting his living days on Planet Venus relaxing and filming movies, rendering this whole issue a plot-hole.
>Nazism is just communism without pretense humanism.
Well you're correct about that

Thinking Eva is pretentious and acting all haughty about how it's actually "nOt ThAt DeEp AcTuAlLy TeEnAgE aNgSt LmAo" is the definition of being pretentious and completely up your own arse.

FUCK this game

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Super Meat Boy started as a flash game

Learn2parry scrub

God damn. Have a (you)

>Pathologic 2 test primarily patience, caution, attention, and also reward empathy and self-awareness and ability to be a bit self-reflective.
Lol no. Pathologic 2 rewards quick inventory management, ai exploits, rng exploits and save scumming. Dialogues value little, especially considering the amount of boring shit the player has to go through.

Hot take:

Pretentious games can still be good despite being pretentious.
Having weak elements that it brags about does not automatically list the game off as bad.

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Strip aside,the balls to the walls themes,the game is still a masterpiece in all technical aspects of a video game,unlike those truly pretentious indie games that have absolutely nothing going from them aside of being ''depth''.

I've never seen a pretentious game that isn't dogshit in every aspect.

Name three. Or just one, but I want three because I might not have played that single one.

>Pretentious games can still be good despite being pretentious.
Alright, i'll bite, name one

>I legitimately liked this game up until the ending.

it was an okay game (barring Raiden being a whiny bitch) but the the ending sequence with the Patriot AI bullshit killed the game for me.

Don't forget the 3 hour timed puzzle piece.

>Nazism is just communism without pretense humanism.
no, it's capitalism without pretense humanism

das crazy man who do main in guilty gear?

Literally everything they make and the developers own existence fits the definition.

I don't play Guilty Gear.

I can only actually name MGS2, but that's about it.

The Patriot AI was still tolerable because at least the atmosphere was creepy and great, but the Snake speech really killed it for me and the pretentious moral at the end

i will pay FIVE dollars for this game no more

Is this Evangelion?

>Modern platformers

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you dont know what pretentious means
there's nothing fedora about it either; are you 12 and/or a shitskin?

>jesus christ you fucking bafoon its not because something isnt deep that its pretentious
That is literally the definition

god damnit

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I can definitely agree with this. It's a fun platformer and the the characters can be charming, but the story does get really pretentious at times.

I prefer Dustforce though.

This is my problem with Dustforce, I have Double S+ and got up to S rank in Peta Difficult before I realized I was the retard for playing anything in the "!". Those stages literally appeal to autists that have nothing better to do in their free time who are essentially turning into 1 trick ponies. Nothing about the last few levels even builds upon the stuff you learn on, it's just someone poking you going "Don't mess up, don't mess up, don't mess up, heheheheheheheheheh"

But user, the pretentiousness in that game is ironic. Why else do you think he's constantly waxing poetic or playing old tunes such as "Going Down the Road Feeling Bad" while you're playing as man in a caldron climbing a junk mountain with only a hammer?

I agree that many of the difficults can be obnoxious, but there are even more insane custom levels out there that. If anyone has Dustforce, make sure to install Dustmod, since that gives you a shitload of new levels, tools, and even has daily levels to compete in.

Titan Souls felt that way to me.

>Game is desperately aping on Shadow of the Colossus with a cloaked boy going through a tour of giant bosses
>But in a 2-D Pixel style
>Every attack 1 shots you
>Bosses have phase change attacks that will either be you get lucky the first time or will cause you to die
>Your only attack is a bow and arrow where you have to charge up the shot
>Charging slows your movement to a crawl
>Releasing the shot has a slight input lag
>You only have one arrow so you have to recall it back where that has acceleration mechanics
>Every boss is just learning the patterns and "Gotcha" moments where each death forces you to do a long walk back from the checkpoint to the boss room
>Story is told without words

It got a ton of praise but winning the boss fights weren't satisfying by the time you learned all their tricks, you just felt relieved their annoyance was done.

a bit too direct though

The following are all great games despite having pretentious stories or messages, the only exception is fez which is more of a pretentious dev than the actual game itself.

The majority of mgs
Binding of Isaac
hotline miami 2
fez
Celeste
undertale

none of those things make it pretentious tho
just say you didn't like it lol

Based

>"We want to make our own Shadow of the Colossus where you take on incredible challenges! ...Making that looks really hard. Let's just take a basic twinstick shooter concept and fill it with a bunch of bullshit mechanics and pad it out with a boatload of downtime to make the challenge seem a much bigger deal!"

It kind of does. A player would probably finish the game an hour or two sooner on average if deaths just made you respawn at the beginning of the boss fight. The walk backs were absurd.

Good example

how the fuck is proteus pretentious. do you just think anything you find boring is pretentious? is that it?

fucking lol

NINTENDO

It's like if user was trying to say a Windows screensaver was pretentious

Well, yeah, but it's an iOS game from 2011.

IT HAS A VALID POINT TO MAKE

Hollow Knight
Ori
Undertale
Metal Gear Solid
God of War
Horizon Zero Dawn
Halo
Metroid

deserves another (you)

You fixed it, nice.

>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WHERE'S MY SWITCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!!!!!!!!

I don't see how MGS could be labeled as a pretentious game since it's execution is well done. If you want to say that games that make statements on things are simply pretentious then I guess ANY games that make any statement could be labeled pretentious. The case for MGS2 about snakes speech fits well within the story of MGS2 itself. As for Persona yeah, P3s ending isn't exactly ideal. Though I think P4 executed its themes fantastically for how the game played. I haven't played P5 so I can't make a statement on that.

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Pretentious, according to Yea Forums:
>Any game that tries to convey emotional/deep/artistic/slow paced themes, having pixel art, being indie or getting tons of praise from gaming media outlets
>Somehow Dark Souls doesn't get called out for this when the story's literally DUDE DEATH LMAO
Explain.

Hatred's story was DUDE DEATH LMAO. Dark Souls story was vague and completely unimportant because the tough gameplay was the selling point. The only "theme" it had was that of being a stranger in a strange land in the wrong time who will never know the full story.

dark souls doesn't have cutscenes or pixel art

Dark souls have like 7 or so small cutscenes technically, only one of them tell you shit though.