Literally playing FF7 for the first time right now & it's unironically a masterpiece...

Literally playing FF7 for the first time right now & it's unironically a masterpiece. Why do critics & normalfags hate it so much?

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FFVII is the one that all the normies and critic love OP.

FFIX is the true thinking mans FF. it’s easily the greatest 3D FF until the last disc and final boss bullshit anyway

Nice b8. metacritic.com/game/playstation/final-fantasy-vii

It literally has 92/100 for both critic and user scores. That's not a hated game.

I literally see everyone wank over FF6 as the best one though, it's always at the top with shit like Red Dead Redemption or Chrono Trigger now, and while it is incredible it's own right. One amazing game should not warrant shitting on another amazing game

>FFVII is the one that all the normies and critic love OP.
this hasnt been the case since the millenium turn,it's now the most overrated of all time according to them

Xbox users hated it last gen and x1 focused on American games/entertainment and failed. Now westacucks hate it.

Because FF7 is like the Godfather of games in that it is universally acclaimed, and is actually deserving of acclaim. thus, contrarians try to bring it down a peg, in hopes of trying to have an interesting opinion.

It's one of the most beloved FFs of them all. That being said, it is also one of the most ridiculed, due to kickstarting a lot of the weebshit tropes everyone lampoons anymore.

Silver haired katana wielding edgelord? You've got Sephiroth to thank for that. He kickstarted a trope of sheer cringe, but it's really not fair to hold that one against him. Noodly armed bishonen with outrageous hair wielding an illogical weapon? You've got Cloud to thank for that. But again, it's not fair to hold that against Cloud himself.

Isn’t this the most popular one? My favourite is 8 but it’s the only one I’ve played. Might try out this one, tactics or the remake next

I just like the weird monsters honestly

>we got inuyasha because of this

Absolutely based

and btw, i think ff6 is dogshit because the battle system felt like a fucking chore and absoultely no fun. don't get how anyone can say it is more fun than ff7

Because Tifa had tits back then and normies and critics believe tits are unethical.

Why else do you think those two demographics are shitting themselves about the remake?

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I always find it kind of ironic that in Inuyasha, a Feudal Japan setting where demons are fucking everywhere, it's one of the only series where Nobunaga Oda is just a regular ass human instead of a literal Demon King.

Eh, I can buy the smaller tits. In this fallen world, when a girl gets /fit/, the fat in the tits is usually the first to burn.

No, ever since about 2001 critics have been shitting on it as the most overrated RPG ever. I remember IGN not even having it in their top 100 games by 2003, whereas FF4, FFX & FF6 all made it.

Kek. Honestly it’s a pretty stupid fucking anime, I just have nostalgia goggles

Wait, what?

OOT is the godfather of video games, the game everyone calls the GOAT & is the highest rated by every metric. But has a canonically sequel (ALTTP) that is rated just as high & sparks constant arguments about what the better game is

I always thought ff was gay weebshit and it still is i guess but as ive gotten older i realized i like some gay weebshit. Im trying to play ff6 but the random encounter rate is downward infuriating. It slows the games pace to a fucking crawl

The Compilation and probably its overexposure in other mediums that dilute a lot of what made the original special.

For example, the original Final Fantasy VII conflict between Cloud and Sephiroth was about how Sephiroth destroyed Cloud's hometown and dealt with Cloud's insecurities as well as his desire to measure up to Soldier.

In Kingdom Hearts, they just screech about "muh darkness" a bunch.

It was good then and it's good now. In order to seem on top of the game modern critics and gamers have to shit on it in order to keep themselves in the media spotlight.

Downright

Don't forget how the compilation retconned a lot of character personalities. Aerith went from being streetsmart as fuck that you could genuinely buy surviving in Midgar into dainty demure waifu too pure for Midgar.

>most iconic party in the franchise
>most iconic villain
>most iconic locations
>kino moments everywhere

SPOILERS

>main character is unironically mentally ill
>love interest gets killed mid game
>the scene nanaki finds the true about his father is fucking kino
>Barret and Dyne kino
>Cloud saving Tifa in the Nibelheim flashback kino
>escape of midgar kino
>Tifa and Scarlett slapping the shit out of each other on top of the Juno cannon as emerald weapon is attacking the city
>Don Corneo
>The Turks, probably on of the most charismatic group of antagonists in vidya
>The actual main villain was a fucking brain dead ay lmao
>meteorite
>that hype as fuck final battle
>that music
>the final face to face against Sephirot

This fucking game is the purest definition of Kino

>Cloud and Vincent became more emo
>Tifa and Cid more or less stayed the same, I guess
>Cait Sith became Scottish
>Yuffie became ditzier than ever and trips or does something cutesy all the time
>Barret sold out to the oil industry
>Nanaki faded into obscurity

So then why do they still circlejerk games like FF6, Chrono Trigger, MGS1, Castlevania: SOTN, Super Metroid, Shadow of the Colossus, Super Mario, Resident Evil 4 & Ocarina of Time?. These games are every bit as acclaimed as FF7 was when it came out, and yet they have never recieved the amount of backlash & 180 in terms of reception that it got

Soulless post (yours) vs soulful post (mine)

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I love Aerith so much.

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>it's unironically a masterpiece
no, it's a medicore game behind a competent story.

forgot to add that also, the materia system is the best system in the series. The amount of crazy combinations is insane, and can lead to some awesome and unintended results

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All those games aged well, and most normalfags didn't know FF6 existed until SNES emulation became a thing. So FF7 was the only FF game that anyone played, thus elevating it's critical acclaim higher than it should have been. As soon as people decided to play FF6 and other JRPGs from that era, they realized that FF7 didn't hold up nearly as well as it did on their first playthrough

The only one I can understand is Cloud getting a bit more emo and even then only in Crisis Core, considering all the bluster of how he's gonna be SOLDIER and just wound up becoming a fucking grunt with no future, yeah I'd be depressed too.

Believe it or not, Cloud's noodly arms make sense. Spending five years in a tube will atrophy the fuck out of your muscles, so you're going to look like a stick. Add in superhuman strength due to genetic shit that lets you use the Buster Sword with no issue, and yeah, you're going to still have stick arms. Your body only bulks up in muscle when you tear what you've got and it realizes what you've got isn't enough. If what you got is enough for what you're doing, your body won't build muscle.

There's a reason the saying is "no pain no gain."

I'm still salty about them giving Nanaki one line in AC because fur was hard to animate back then, like just give him short fur like he had in the original game he didn't have to be so fluffy.
Then again I'm bitching about AC, which ruined all the characters they gave decent screentime, so maybe it's a good thing they didn't get a chance to ruin him too much as well.

Tifa used to be white.

That's why critics and normies hate it. The main """""girl""""" must now be a black-indian Japanese jewish hemi-demi-semi-trans-Z-exosexual who sexually identifies as a block of wood or the developers are literally Hitler. Didn't you hear?

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Have "gamers" ever been more buttblasted than tifafags currently are?

>Aerithfags and Yuffiefags discuss their respective waifus in threads
>Tifafags consistently bootyblasted ever since E3

>stupid ass "scientific" explanation
"genetic shit" can't make you stronger without building muscle mass if you want to be realistic about it like a retard. Cloud has noodly arms because he's a JRPG protagonist just like every single protagonist in the entire history of Final Fantasy

>Yuffiefags
I wonder what kind of hellish landscape this place will turn into if they button up her shorts. Tifafags will join forces. The moaning will be heard through time.

My best friend bought me FF7 for iOS mobile, and I’ve never played FF7 before. Should I go ahead and play it mobile?

They were buttoned up since AC and in the DoC prologue

AC designs were pretty different in general though.
Never played DoC.
Also, they both came out before the internet wasn't full of thin-skinned, perpetually offended retards.

>wasn't
was

I mean... there are like 5 years in-between. Escpacially for teenage age, that's a lot of time to develop mentally.

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Ok. Wasn't denying it.

kek

>honeybee censored
>gold saucer date censored
>yuffie shorts censored
>tifa tits censored
>CPR censored
>sailor suit censored
>Jenezmie enemies censored
>Costa de Sol censored
>Scarlet will be wearing a burka

Literally nobody who played the original game is holding out any hope whatsoever that the shitmake will be good.

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>gold saucer date censored
For what? There was nothing suggestive in that.

it's a shitpost, don't worry about it

It involves two people who might conceivably have been thinking about haram things. And we cannot risk *LE ULTIMATE GASP8 ""OFFENDING""" someone because obviously the entire universe is four years old and we must pursue the broadest possible audience. By the way, Star Wars 8 was an incredible movie and my favorite food is wallpaper paste.

please say sike

How come Reno's tits get to stay uncensored?

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Sexism.

>Reno uncensored
>Aerith uncensored
>Shiva uncensored

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why the fuck is Reno no longer a sleazy Yakuza-man?

he looks sexy sleazy.
i'd let him slide my panties to the side in a dark alley.

I WANNA FUCK JENOVA

>FFIX is the true thinking mans FF
FFVII > FFX > FFIX

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I can relate. Played ff7 for the first time in 2017 at age 26 and enjoyed it immensly.

I fapped to Tifa since age ~12 and was surprised to find I liked Aerith just a tad more.

I just recently finished it on the Switch, and, I mean, it isn't my fave. It's good, but it's not 6. What I liked most about Final Fantasy VII, and what i think it does better than most Final Fantasy games is that it serves up moments. You can tell the devs genuinely wanted to impress everyone that played it, from the loading screen-free start, to everything at the Saucer, or the neat visuals at Cosmo Canyon, FFVII's focus is on the creation of big moments. Now, the characters aren't as interesting, and the battles are less fun, but there are some moments in VII that genuinely warm my heart or get a few tears started up (not the moment you think it is) but VI is the better game with the cooler cast.

Same. I literally played it last July and it took me a month to finish it just because I wanted to experience it all.

I too also liked Aerith more than Tifa, even after Mideel

> Why do critics & normalfags hate it so much?
What? You have got to stop listening to Yea Forums and thinking they represent most people. Hell, most of the hate for FF7 is literally either because it's mainstream or from salty as fuck FF8 fans

This, FF7's cool moments rival any other RPG in existence. The problem is, for every memorable moment there's another 3-5 hours of filler bullshit that ruins the pacing. Aside from Cloud & Sephiroth you won't care about any other character in the game, because those two are so well written they overshadowed anyone else. It peaks the first 4 hours from when you are exploring Midgar to seeing Cloud & Sephiroth's backstories. Everything afterwards is incredibly forgettable, almost all of the memorable moments in the game happen within the first 5 hour mark, and it doesn't get good again until you reach the City of the Ancients when Aerith dies, which remains fantastic until Cloud falls into the lifestream and you are forced to play as Tifa, where the games takes a huge nosedive into shitsville & never recovers

Yea Forums is one of the few places that still likes FF7 on the internet, and "Mainstream" isn't an argument when critics are still shilling Metal Gear Solid

It was the first game in a long time, which after I finished I wanted to instantly replay again, now knowing what I was doing. Enjoyed it even more on a 2nd playthrough.

Well, fuck. I guess I liked Tifa and Aerith both equally after Mideel.

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Perfect game is perfect. I even love the flaws.

4,6,7
are my favourites story-wise.
5,7,8,10
are my favourites gameplay-wise.
9
is for 1/2 nostalgia and "hard mode", since I consider it the hardest one, by far

who /FinalFantasyHouseCult/ here?

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That's just your opinion and it's wrong. The only one I genuenly didn't give a shit about is Barrett. Fuck that nigger.

I still think it's a ruse but I don't know a whole lot about it

The Barrett/Dyne story was really good though.

everything about the temple on ancients sucks ass

Terrible boss(es), navigating that M C escher room is fucking trash because theres dead ends everywhere or you cant see where you are because of the stupid background geometry, that stupid 'running between the logs' segment, you get morph just sitting there by a pool for no reason, the entire meeting between cloud and sephiroth (Huh, whats this temple made of? black amteria whats that? GUYS WE NEED TO GET BLACK MATERIA) cloud beating the shit out of aeris, and then her not giving a shit 3 seconds later as she walks through the forest

Opinions. I also really like 6, but not as much as 7. Also, I played both 1 and 6 before 7.
Now this, this is just a shitty opinion, more like a troll trying too hard.

It's fantastic OP. Now is a great time to play it before the remake comes out

IX was formulaic, boring, and predictable.

I'll make a slight justification for the Brain-dead cloud angle. First the build was great, when cloud starts begging for a number from Hojo, it's impossible to see him as anything more than pathetic in that moment. And had i not known about crisis core or Zack through the whole thing, I would genuinely be disoriented by that swerve. As for the part with Cloud out of comission and playing as Tifa/Cid, the justification I got for that is the feeling of dread that hangs over disc 2. You can see meteor in the distance, as well as the weapons flying around. Aeris is dead, and she was one of the core characters. I could imagine some flannel wearing teenager in 1998 not knowing if the game would go so far as to actually kill the main character.
It's unfortunate that the game negates all that dread once you get cloud back. If i were booking it, I'd bring Zack as the replacement for like the 2nd disc, then have him wake up cloud for disc 3 to take down Sephiroth as homeboys. "For Nibbelheim, Cloud. For Gongaga, Zack."

>IX was formulaic, boring, and predictable.
What formula?

>>The actual main villain was a fucking brain dead ay lmao
It's hard to say whether or not Jenova is brain dead. Jenova could very well be the one pulling the strings the entire time.

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tldr
>Jen is a mentally ill dyke who starts a cult based around final fantasy 7 with her easily manipulated gf
>names herself Jenova, her gf Hojo and their resident cuckold Zack
>they brainwash the fuck out of Zack into being their live-in slave while just doing stupid cult shit like ceromonies and scams etc.
>Jen's "apprentice" Gretta/Aeirith fucks off and starts her own cult about another jap RPG
>Zack fucks off and they find another easy mark to manipulate
>eventually this gets them kicked out of a bunch of places until Zack exposes them through myspace or some bullshit and they disapear alltogether for a decade
>Jen and her new gf pop up in 2015 pulling the same cult shit with the hannible fandom manipulating dumb fujosluts into giving tithe to their cult

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I've seen both of these videos but I refuse to believe these people actually exist.

Critics have never considered FF7 the best in the series, all its top rankings came from popularity contests due to the PS1’s insane popularity. FF6 was always the critics favorite choice for best RPG of all time

My best friend bought me FF7 for iOS mobile, and I’ve never played FF7 before. Should I go ahead and play it mobile?

it is literally the game behind OoT for most best game of all time awards

yeah sure

Cait Sith was allways "Scottish" he's based on a Scottish folk legend

>mfw the remake will pronounce it ket shee instead of kate sith

>attaching real races to cartoon characters
go back to /pol/

Barrett was still an unlikable piece of shit though.

> the worst combat system
> the thinking mans FF
It's fine if you love the setting, story and everything but the fuck on, the combat is fucking dumb, that lag can die in a fire

Except when Tifa called Cloud messed up right after. Wanted to slap her across the room this once desu. Maybe it's just a shitty translation of weird jap humor.

The thumbnail looks like a craz and sexy statue of liberty

Why is she so sexy bros?

Well the fact that is not known if Jenova is still a sentient being at this point, and if so, nobody know what "her" truly intentions are or whats her endgame, makes it all even more kino

>Memoria worse than anything from disc 3
>too dumb to get what Necron is
Typical retard just recycling ad populum. IX is the best archaic game in the franchise but it's not even close to VII in overall quality

Just show Red and Vincent already!!

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>Why do critics & normalfags hate it so much?
They don't, the amount of people who shit on it are a minority compared to all the praise it gets.
That applies to FF in general, the gameplay hasn't aged well.

>tfw Jenova was the bad guy all along
>an evil and manipulative alien that can literally change shape and appaerance at will
>takes the shape of a woman

Really makes you think

>tfw we'll get to see Seph cast Super Nova in 2028

Wow shocking that Yea Forums doesn't like *game*, especially *popular game*

Disc 3 will be a movie

Really the best thing they can do with the remake is go full alternate continuity with it and take the story in a new direction. They won't though because they are fucking cowards.

A censored movie. The edits will be sold in the Ultimate Director's Cut Uranium Edition with costs $3999.99.

This. All I want to see is Red XIII before I go on FF7R news blackout and avoid trailers and shit until March third.

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>i can't see faces

Stick on the right is objectively better, nostalgia fags just can't accept it.

it's the same fucking thing

Adjusted for inflation? We're talking decades or centuries.

Normie's and critics loved it the fuck are you talking about?

It's because it's more volatile at times,since for example a Death Gigas can take 90% of your health at once and you have four distinct party members to have fun with.

Now on average I actually like VII's bugged Magic Defense better (and VII's battle pacing is perfected for three characters), since it means all monsters appear relevant to the end, but they're rarely a threat. In fact both games are way too easy, but as I said before VI has more impactful events in battle, giving it a slight edge, making it the sixth best combat in the series over VII's seventh.

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Nomura didn't explain it well in the movie, but Cloud's only emo because he was dying of super cancer at the time. He cheers up afterwards, but you'd be depressed to if after trying to enjoy time with your not wife you find out you're dying from a potentially infectious diseases and that your other adopted kid might have it too.

Contrarianism. It used to be one of the most overrated FFVII games with people continuing to recommend it as a masterpiece despite the fact it's good at best. Because of that many people with overhyped expectations got disappointed and started hating it. It's really that simple.

I still wouldn't consider it a masterpiece though, several FF games got made afterwards that were better (until FFX) and there are way better RPGs out there, so the term masterpiece is again an overexageration if you've played enough RPGs

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>Aerith uncensored
What on Minerva are you saying? She's the most censored. They cut off her E-cups to B-cups, nearly annihilated the cleavage, removed the dress unbuttoned all the way to her crotch, reduced her hips and annihilated her largest 3D FF ass. Also I liked her puffy pauldrons and metal bits in her jacket.

Yet the worst thing is that they made her a coward. I'm angry.

But her face is beautiful. (Even if they nerfed her hair.)

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this post cant be unironic

you fucking know it's not, aerithfags are all deranged

I fucking love everything about VII including all its characters not named Priscilla. Both their strengths and faults too for that matter. The post is fully genuine.

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Aerith comes off as a narcissistic slut in the original FFVII, but I bet she's gonna be portrayed as some kind virgin mary in the remake just like every other neo-ffvii spinoff piece of trash

I mean, it IS the most overrated RPG ever. Doesn't mean it isn't at least in the top 20, though that's partially because JRPGs haven't evolved much in 40 years

I hate ac/remake reno. He should be this sleazy, kind of emaciated scumbag. Not another final fantasy bitch boy.

if you're a 30 year old boomer you're probably nostalgic about the late 90s, and FFVII is the thickest miasma of late 90s japanese pop culture ephemera ever, so you'll probably like it. if you're not a 30 year old boomer you'll see it more objectively and realize it's an easy, decent rpg with a dumb plot. that's about all there is to it

im starting to think every waifufaggot is deranged, both tifa and aerith both look the same except for the sports bra

Yeah, Tifa was the timid qt one. Aeris was a cheeky slag

>virgin mary
Not this time

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>no way fag

Because it's flanked by the superior VI and VIII.

Fucking this. They almost look identical. The most weird looking ones are Cloud and Barret
>Cloud looks nothing like his concept art in the subtle details and even has that whole Advent Children thing of having a very non-confident demotivating posture
>Barret has lighter skin and isn't as SWOLE as his original version, doesn't even have that cool metallic armor near his waist.

>ctrl f
>"normie"
>5 results

>ctrl f
>"normalfag"
>4 results, 2 being quoted from the OP

FF9 is objectively the worst FF and anyone praising it clearly never played past the 1st disc.

FF7 is a great metaphorical representation of what we face in the real world. That's why people love it, almost on an instinctual or spiritual level. Just research what "fossil fuels" actually are and you'll realize that FF7 is barely fiction.

But FFIX only gets perfect from Memoria onwards, when it stops being IX and gains an identity. (It's also when IX makes all the callbacks plot relevant with a little headcanon, turning the rest of the bad game upside down and redeeming lots of it.)

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because VI and IX-fags can't stand that most people think VII is the best so they trash it every chance they get

no

ff1-3 the story and motivation is what exactly
ff4 A+ tale of redemption
ff5 didnt play
ff6 kekekekeke
ff7 WHOLP WHO LET SEPHY NEAR MOM
ff8 didnt play
ff9 didnt play
ff10 you wish blitzball was real, most normalfag protag ever
ff11 didnt play
ff12 at least exploring was fun
ff13 im not jap enough for this
ff14 didnt play
ff15 overwhelming returned day 1 because i cant handle open worlds

So the reason it all started again was because Cloud went to Shinra HQ and his cells interacted with Jenova locked in there. That's why it escaped, and through Sephiroth's will, put the rest of the game in motion. Did I get it right? Fairly sure before Jenova's body escaped Midgar, Sephiroth was just a comatose body encased in crystal

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Yes. The amount of people who don't realise you never encounter the actual Sephiroth throughout the whole game is mindblowing

Wasn't he still emo in DoC too, though?

does he even appear in doc

Yeah

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is it in any significant capacity or a cameo

how do i get a cheeky slag gf

Cameo. He also makes a phone call, that has delusional fans somehow exclaiming "Cloud is back!" even though it's really dry.

He's there to show Rosso in CGI
And I think he tells Vince to stop being so emo at some point

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It's creepy. The only reason Jenova gets out of Shinra HQ is because Cloud is there! If Cloud never went to Shinra HQ she would have remained in stasis!

That scene where Cloud wakes up and is all like "the door is open! who opened the door?" It was HIM!, possessed by Jenova!

or more accurately, Cloud awakened Jenova to open the door

yeah you're full of shit
the game doesn't get 'good' until you can fuck around with crazy materia combinations near the end, unless you're only judging the game by its story in which case you're a fag