Are there really people who don't like Vergil's model in DMC5? I think it's one of his best. Definitely better than the hack job in DMC4. I know the mocap in RE Engine can be wonky but overall the model itself looks cool. I don't get what the issue is.
Are there really people who don't like Vergil's model in DMC5? I think it's one of his best...
Liam Foster
Jonathan Peterson
It's probably just the hairline and lack of bangs covering his forehead. It's the one thing that looks off about his model imo.
At times he can look a little chubby, but some user mentioned that it could've been Dan's gigachad jaw making the mocap fuck up.
Nathaniel Thomas
He looks like a damn food reviewer.
Jason Morris
The main problem with DMC5 Vergil is his hair, it's way to high up he has no bangs loose and he looks like he's balding his face isn't doing him any favors either
Connor Ortiz
He looks pretty good in DMC5, I just wish his hair was less pointy.
Sebastian Carter
One thing that kept bugging me and can never unnotice is that the scabbard of Yamato keeps disappearing. One scene Vergil has it, next he doesn't because he's two handing it.
It was most obvious in the ending scene where fighting Dante he doesn't have it, then when the demons come he has it again.
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Cameron Rodriguez
I think it's more certain angles can do that. If you look through DMC Zodiacs twitter a lot of the same scenes where people say he looks bloated look better from other angles.
I don't see how that looks like he's balding. His hair is poofy. I think you guys just parrot the same opinions you see from shit posters. Yea Forums is really the only place I see have these complaints.
Ethan Smith
I thought he looked ok in DMC4. His DMC5 look makes me think of mid-2000s James Franco, which is either a positive or a negative I guess.
Thomas Morris
I think he's perfect.
99% sure it's an oversight.
Kevin Barnes
I'd watch that.
Nicholas Smith
>mid-2000s James Franco
That was prime Franco though. I've seen people on here say that but I still don't see it.
Brody Moore
I think the issue is that his face is too soft/round. We're used to seeing him angular.
Leo Clark
Well, he can easily send it to another dimension and call it back at will, the ability to materialize it or de-materialize isn't exclusive to the blade, but to the whole weapon.
Jack White
>too soft/round.
No it's not.
Christopher Roberts
It kinda is there actually. The cheeks aren't as pronounced.
Juan Lewis
its literally just the hair tuft, they probably thought it would look weird in the realistic style
Gavin Anderson
His hair looked cooler in the concept art
Dylan Rogers
Fat face, bad hair, no bulge. Only insane fujos like it.
Sebastian Ortiz
Top right would had been perfect.
Andrew Morales
I love the bottom right, he looks fucking mean. Like he holds Yamato without sleeves under the coat cape for maximum freedom of movement.
Jaxon Perez
I have one problem with Vergil in DMC5 and it's the way Dan delivers the line "would I have your liiife." It sounds like he's from fucking Transylvania. So odd.
Lincoln Carter
I noticed that too, his "DIEEEE" line also sounded off to me.
Colton Cook
Christopher Gutierrez
Yea there was something odd with his line delivery
Isaiah Williams
Christian Harris
Why isn't his hair white though
Lucas Jenkins
>he doesn't looks animu anymore
Maybe they should've hired a plastic kpop idol to be his face model cause normal people don't look like that.
Chase Nelson
So did they give him a black jacket because Nero is meant to be the blue character of the series now?
Landon Morales
For some weird reason, they artists think it would make him look weird since there wouldn't be enough contrast with the skin or something. It's especially puzzling since V's hair does become white and it looks ok.
Actually, devs said Nero's color is black, but they couldn't have him wear a black costume since it wouldn't read well during gameplay. I'm not sure either why the made his coat black, but I wouldn't put it past capcom that it was because of DmC.
Christopher Williams
stop bullying Vergil, and stop acting like you wouldn't bang him the moment he opens his legs
Gavin Nelson
I like him, if I were to change something, would just make his eyebrows a little bigger.
Asher Morgan
You can see his cheekbones you're just dense. His face shape matches his face models face shape. Are you still mad they went with realism rather than anime?
Hudson Wood
KYS, Vergil is confirmed heterosex. He judgement nuts for the sole purpose of procreation
Grayson Bailey
>Actually, devs said Nero's color is black
Nigga what. If anything, it's blue and red.
Ayden Hughes
Evan Russell
>We're used to seeing him angular.
You're used to seeing him as an anime character, retard.
Brandon Wood
>the model itself looks cool
Yeah, the model is fine but he just doesn't look like Vergil should.
For one he definitely doesn't look like Dante anymore. I know they gave a reason but I don't care that they had a reason I care that they change it at all. To top it off I think Adam's face would've been great for Vergil, too.
Second, what is with that cockatoo hair? He looks like a stereotypical Japanese delinquent.
I like the outfit but the silhouette looks too square. He might've looked better if the emphasized an upper body V shape. Slimer at the hips. Not exaggeratedly so, just a bit more than what it is now.
Jack Adams
The character models look too human that it gives an uncanny effect of looking bad. Geralt from Witcher 3 looks human but is clearly a video game character model.
Christopher Long
>ITT Yea Forums is still upset their characters don't look anime
Vergil looks like a chad.
Joshua Reed
Is it possible to import a 100% full save in DMC5?
Luke Wilson
Yea but aren't the models in Witcher 3 handmade? DMC used photoscans.
Ryan Hall
>he looks like he's balding
user, he's 40+ years old. You can already see the white hairs between the silver ones.
Easton Stewart
>When somebody farts in an elevator and your stuck with it for 10 floors.
I sure am glad you guys aren't actually working for Capcom.
Julian Gomez
Man that looks way better than the original
Sebastian Hughes
Yeah there are autistic people out there
Adrian Torres
>he looks like he's balding
Not with that hairline
Adrian Morgan
God, how can one man look this chad
Dominic Gray
As far as outfit and color palette goes he's definitely at his best, the fact that nobody really complains about the cyan jacket being replaced is testament to that
Easton Morales
The jaw that can split dimensions
Camden Howard
the answer is quantum power.
Adrian Rodriguez
>he looks like he's balding his face isn't doing him any favors either
That is a perfectly acceptable hairline especially for somebody in their 40s. There's nothing wrong with his face.
Ryder Evans
They should just give him dark purple like they originally came up with
Jackson Russell
The "balding" complaint comes from a misplaced idea of where all that forehead space is coming from. It's actually the eyebrows, which are too small, and undefined. The extra flesh on his browbone kinda adds to the large forehead illusion as well.
Ayden Scott
No, he's qt and I wanna bang him.
Henry Cooper
A far more legitimate complaint is the fact that dante and virgil share zero facial features despite the fact that they're supposed to be twins and had the same face in previous games.
Jose Taylor
DMC5 Vergil is 10/10 hot dad.
People who are complaining he's 'softer/rounder' looking than his 20-year-old model don't understand the appeal of fuckable dads. The things I'd let that old man do to me...
Kayden Flores
>games
Matthew Foster
>Yea Forums : Why doesn't he look like his anime renders? This isn't attractive.
>meanwhile the female DMC fanbase: twitter.com
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Alexander Barnes
>black doesn't show up
>but they give it so Vergil
The real reason was because black is Vergil's color now.
Jace Ross
Imagine that delicious dadbod.
Grayson Martin
>the same face in previous games.
The only game they had the same face in was DMC3 which was already a retcon because they weren't identical in DMC1.
Christian Taylor
They were only twins in 3
Logan Price
I was ignorant and wrong, and i retract my statement.
Isaiah White
I wouldn't put any faith on some thirsty bitches anymore than some weeaboo who actually has tits on his signature.
Jose Rodriguez
The height of his hair can fuck with the illusion as well, they should have reduced the volume of it.
Jackson Ortiz
It was a big deal in 3 but they threw it out with such ease it was almost nonchalant.
>they weren't identical in DMC1
Says who? In the light novel it very specifically says that Vergil had the same face as Dante. He was shocked at how he was looking at his own face in Gilver. The idea has always been around.
When you make twins in fiction they are always identical, otherwise there's no point in them being twins, just make them regular brothers.
Colton Martin
god even just cut that webm off at the top and hes fucking perfect
how could they fuck up so bad bros
Jack Mitchell
>Says who?
Says the fact that Nelo Angelo uses a different model. The novels aren't 100% canon and constantly get contradicted and retconned.
>When you make twins in fiction they are always identical, otherwise there's no point in them being twins, just make them regular brothers.
There are plenty of twins who aren't identical in fictional media. When they are identical they just play the interchangeable trope most of the time. Sometimes people use twins because they want to make them the same age. The boys were born at the same time but were very different from each other.
Jack Watson
>Twins
One grew up in the sunshine, eating pizza and yee-hawing through his 20s/30s
The other grew up chained in a literal hell, enslaved and mind raped throughout most of his existence.
>"W-why don't they look the same anymore?!"
Wyatt Richardson
The same people hating on Vergil are probably the same ones who like sfm donte porn.
Isaac Martinez
Wasn't Nelo Angelo's head just Wesker's head? Or was that just a rumor?
Hunter Robinson
Peoples life experiences change how they look the older they get
Christopher Anderson
I want to kiss Dan's powerful jaw. Am I gay bros?
What do these feeling mean?
James Cook
Vergil 2 is still his best theme
Parker Price
You're mirin his chad jaw like the weak jawlet you are.
Jonathan Russell
Oh thank god. No homo, then.
Joshua Campbell
Unrelated note: Does anyone have a link to pictures of the van scenes without the HUD? I'd like to set then as my background, but, I can't seem to find them.
Eli Morales
Most twins don't actually look identical and that becomes even more apparent as they get older. If you ever get to know a set of identical twins it gets easier to tell them apart.
Joshua Wright
They have quit a few and take great high quality screen shots.
Brandon Thompson
Are you looking for a specific one?
Landon Green
Anyone used the co-op mod before?
Adam Gray
two ungas
Ian Moore
Vergil isn't an unga
Hunter Nguyen
Nero had to get it from somewhere.
Angel Moore
Of Course they used a different model, he was basically encased in armor and metal face won't look shouldn't just be a different texture.
>There are plenty of twins who aren't identical in fictional media.
Name 10. Because I'm pretty sure we can point out many times more than that are and the only ones I can think of are the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver and the Astral Chain twins.
Yeah, because that matters so much in video games, the science of it all.
First off, it's not the reality of things. If you are looking for grounded or scientifically based you are in the wrong franchise.
Second, it's about the poetry of it all. When they were identical they were each other's shadow. The part of themselves that they hated, and that is canon. It was important for them to have the same face during that fight on top of the tower, to try to kill not the other but that mirror image they were looking into. That's gone now. Now it's almost just because it was in 3. It's 'we've been at it so long might as well keep going.' It's lost something significant. It's lost a huge part of its symbolism. Actually, it's lost ALL of its symbolism.
David Lopez
This is literally a non-issue
Aiden Anderson
His mommy.
Kayden Cook
Well you named 2 already:
Dennis and Deandra Reynolds - It's Sunny
Mario and Luigi are actually twins
Austin Powers and Dr Evil
The Wonder Twins
Julius and Vincent Benedict - Twins
Luke and Leia
Sara and Scott Ryder - Mass Effect
Jodie Holmes and Aiden - Beyond Two Souls
Dawn and John - Care Bears
Ruffnut and Tuffnut - How to Train your Dragon
Jack Bennett
Thanks.
I was thinking of Dante and Vergil on the couch together. I was gonna browse through to see what exactly though.
Jason Fisher
They don't sit on the couch together but only across from each other.
Anthony Morales
It's like devs just went with "Oh man we gotta have Dante fight Vergil again because it's what the fans are expecting! The reasons don't matter much just have them fight! They're gonna love it!"
Nathan Walker
>Name 10. Because I'm pretty sure we can point out many times more
Doesn't matter if you can name more cause your statement was:
>When you make twins in fiction they are always identical, otherwise there's no point in them being twins
So the fact that you could name even 2 already disproved your argument. It's also a very popular trope to make Male and Female twins. They also like the trope of Big Twin, little twin for comic relief. Like in the movie twins. So no, Identical is not the only way you can right twins.
Christian Bailey
>vergil's power obsession wasn't going to clash with dante and not cause them to fight each other again.
Josiah Green
We really need some news because we've spent the last 3 days arguing about Vergil's face.
Kevin Thompson
xbox.com
we got this before tga
Connor Peterson
>When you make twins in fiction they are always identical
That's the dumbest thing I've heard. I love how you could make a statement this broad when the most well known twins in gaming are Mario and Luigi who look nothing alike. Not to mention you have Luke and Leia who apart of one of the biggest movie franchises.
Joshua Scott
Alright:
Kaoru Hitachiin, Ouran Host
Hiashi and Hizashi Hyuga, Naruto
Tsumugi and Yuki, High School Star Musical
Zack and Cody
Sister Sister
The Shining
the Weasley twins from Potter
Sherri and Terri, Simpsons
The sisters from Dead Ringers (1988)
The Parent Trap
The Prestige
Ami and Mami Futami, Idolmaster
The twins from Higurashi
Pretty sure Wendy and Goldie were twins in the Sin City comic
Fai and Yuui fro Tsubasa
Fatal Frame 2
the twins from Kuon
The identical triplets from Yuri on ice
The two old bitches from Avatar and the two dudes from Korra
Kim Possible's brothers
Double Dragon
That Jackie Chan movie
The Bob's burgers twins
Hansel and Gretel from Black Lagoon
That... Might not be too far from the truth. DMC5 has so much fans service a lot of it feels like it's there just to have it.
Adam Gutierrez
It's not about them fighting again, it's how it's done. It all feels like fan service. Hell the whole scene where Dante approaches Vergil is very obviously a recreation of the scene from DMC3. Vergil is yet again waiting at the top of a high structure with his back turned away as Dante approaches him from behind and Vergil unsheathes his sword by flicking it right before the battle starts. Hell I bet the whole reason they have this tree in the first place is so that they could have a repeat of that scene.
It doesn't feel genuine, but instead that it's there to fulfill some criteria, DMC3 in contrast didn't have this problem.
Henry Robinson
>Doctors and Parents are stunned
I'm pretty sure the wife knows why.
Caleb Sanders
The issue is that they bought the faces of never-have-been F-list models, shoddily face-scanned them, half-assed the skin textures, and then mo-capped them to people with completely different facial structures. They literally did was DmC did, but didn't even bother with an aesthetic, they just went for "realism".
Daniel King
Why did you even bother getting a list of identical twins? The argument wasn't that there aren't identical twins in fiction. Or that fraternal outnumbered them. You said that twins have to be written as identical. You wasted your time and it added nothing to your case.
Gabriel Sanchez
Still amazes me how the actual models irl look great, but everyone in 5 looks like ass from 9/10 angles by comparison.
Carter Myers
The games always trump the light novel or mangas canon. And besides they didn't need to look a like for 5 like they did for 3. It doesn't ruin 3's story because that was before vergil got corrupted and wandered through hell for years.
Jayden Young
Dammit Vergil..
Jason Carter
They look fine you shit taste retard.
Josiah Watson
remember last year? nothing happened at this event when it comes to DMC
Brody Perry
We got that behind the scenes with matt and itsuno.
James Thompson
>They look fine
At least the fandom has backpedalled to this, instead of trying to meme them into looking great.
Cameron Flores
>fine,good and great aren't easily interchangeable words
k retard.
Aaron Roberts
You can interchange them, but they don't have the same gravitas ESL-kun.
David James
Yeah, I'm not going to not generalize what's a pretty standard known thing with some bullshit apostrophe just because you want to nitpic. It's just like arguing white hair with the DmC lot back a few years ago.
Aside from the fact that you are purposefully missing the point that, a, they were always identical twins. The LN might've gotten retconned but the fact that that story was approved by Kamiya and it states very clearly that they had identical faces. Doesn't matter that the events there are no longer canon, that shows that it was always intended for them to look the same. And, b, that the importance of that similarity has been tossed out for no real reason. That being identical was significant, it was one of the few aspects of these games that actually carried symbolism and showed that this series could have depth.
So much that was supposed to be important to the series has been tossed aside in 5 with an almost, eh, whatever, it's almost ridiculous. Worse than that, there are so many people that are trivializing it all with such acceptance that if Dante started smoking in 5 there be more defence of that than for peace in the middle east. I'd bet real money that if DmC hadn't happened shit like this would've flown over much less smoothly.
Asher Bennett
>hurr durr
k retard
Cameron Foster
For Dante I really blame the hair. I don't know what the fuck happened to Trish, her model looks just like she did in 4 but here she had got a fucking nose for cocaine. Lady's model looks fine, she just doesn't look like Lady. Morrison went full Kirk Lazarus on us.
Benjamin Hernandez
Kamiya didn't even make them twins in his own game ?
Grayson Johnson
Personally I wish they'd went with white or at least a white coat, as a sort of an ironic design to contrast with his name. Honestly the should've went with the original idea Bingo had for the character.
Blake Richardson
It's really not that deep. If Kamiya cared that much about them being identical he wouldn't have used a different model for Nelo Angelo. He could've just as easily used Dante's. There's literally 2 examples you can give where they're identical. DMC3 and a light novel.
Anthony Watson
Not many people have the guts to admit when they have a double digit IQ that prevents them from comprehending language. Good on you user.
Jackson Ortiz
so basically nothing
i highly doubt we're gonna get anything Vergil related, if there was a place to announce it it would be TGA. and if not then i would wait a couple years
Anthony Baker
>it was really important to Kamiya for them to be identical
>doesn't even make them identical in his own game
Owen Flores
Vergil has a tendency to ham it up when Dante's around. For all their bickering, Dante's the only one aside from Nero (his literal fucking son) that can get him out of his shell.
>guts arkham the moment he's no longer useful
>mercs beowulf in seconds
>immediately tries to finish lady once he knocks her over
>does this all with barely a word
But Dante? Vergil will drop everything he's doing to bantz with Dante, and will actively prioritize style (talking mad shit at you) over just finishing Dante off. The only non family member he does this with is the final encounter with Arkham, and by then Dante's got him so roped into it he's willing to use a gun.
Bentley Rogers
Not to mention how Dante and Vergil were obviously inspired by Vash and Knives from Trigun.
Hudson Butler
Dante was inspired by Cobra with a touch of whatever the term British detective means to Kamiya, as that was the instruction he gave.
There is similarity with Vash, but only creators know for sure if true or coincidence.
Liam Harris
>using words that are barely different from each other makes his brain hurt
k retard next time i'll make sure to use a different word so you don't get upset.
Mason Martinez
Couple years for Vergil news is nuts, i'm sure we'll get something soon enough.
Levi Garcia
Purple coat with scarf was best Nero, but if he had the white Order coat maybe it could've been a contender.
Also I just realized that the golden eyes from the concept became a thing for his DT.
Nathan Ward
No, you also have to consider what's readable in an action game where your character is constantly moving around. Bright colors read well in a dark background, which is why Dante's coat was always a bright-ass red, and some might even argue it shouldn't have been so dark in DMC5.
V got away with black because his bare skin helped create a contrast, on top of being distanced from enemies normally. Vergil wears all black, but his arena is brightly lit and has a white palette.
Nathaniel Morales
>Vergil wears all black, but his arena is brightly lit and has a white palette.
So what happens when he's playable? They aren't going to change his coat color unless you use his unlockable ex color.
Caleb Williams
i highly doubt it. all of the leaks so far have been absolutely bust so i've decided to just stop thinking about DMC until something happens
Landon Gray
His hair looks dumb, doesnt translate well to the new engine.
Caleb Richardson
I want to see his regular Devil Trigger ingame.
Robert Cruz
Dante was inspired by Cobra and Vergil was based off of Wesker.
Nolan Williams
>Vergil was based off of Wesker
What?
Henry Barnes
Speaking of skin textures.
Kayden Thomas
No wonder vergil is so based
Logan Richardson
Landon White
>our threads will be like this until there's an expansion or a sequel