How heavily p2w is BDO?

How heavily p2w is BDO?

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It's more pay for convenience than p2w.

My brief experience with it led me to believe that it was fairly heavily p2w. The players I talked to explained it where there was basically a minimum amount I would have to spend on the game to be proficient. Playing without the cash shop items like pets and such was basically not an option from what I could tell.

its more like grind to win, if you wanna drop 10k or something you can skip months of grinding, but ultimately its grind to win and its a long fucking grind to endgame

It's pay to make the grind slightly less awful. Not even worth playing for the Shai cunny to be honest.

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Caravan Stories is FAR more pay to win. Black Desert is comparable to ESO, minus the shameless spam in a AAA game.

It keeps milking you for more money to keep progressing.
>if you wanna drop 10k or something you can skip months of grinding

Its pay to grind less, you will always be grinding, it is literally a Korean MMO, if you dont mind that and want something to work on its pretty decent. I wish a well constructed MMO came out that had BDOs combat, its not tab targetting shite like the standard and actually plays more like an action game. The world sucks, the quests suck and everything sucks, but the combat and aesthetic is pretty good, a shame really.

you pretty much need to do some sort of life skilling to keep up and you have to pay for all of them, no way around it

if you do not pay money you will not enjoy your time i put 3k hours into this game ask me anything you want OP. I'm just saying now it is not worth it, The combat feels fun but thats about it if you want a good BDO experience play on the private server

It's pay to save time, it's a Korean MMO, you win by braindead grinding until your soul withers away to nothing

Censored dogshit, don't bother.

Life Skilling: The game

>There's a private server

I did not know about this.

I stopped playing when they censored Shai.
This changes things.

There's a private server? What?

Does the download for the private server include the invasive rootkit that's in the retail client?

The only thing you really need are pets, however the grind and rng in the game is insane.

If you'd compare BDO with Ragnarok Online, which one is more grindy?

yeah just google bdo private server its been up for a while i think it has the newest classes too

no its clean

private server for BDO is comfy give it a shot

its a shit game. just wait for archeage unchained on oct 15.

You mean wait for Project BBQ.

>Project BBQ.
i hope we get this before summer 2020 its the only mmo im interested in playing

Except you can grind for tons of hours and have your equipment upgrades fail and end up downgrading the gear or just destroying it if it's an accessory. Meanwhile if someone pays money they can actually minimize or outright avoid the drawbacks that come from attempting to upgrade gear.

What got censored?

Not as much as is stated but it is encouraged for sure. You can grind without doing the cash shop game, but will be lengthy grinding. Character action combat and design is decent at least, and it is one of the truer open world MMOs. Not so dungeon heavy however, but they do kinda exist.

bdo easily, i remember playing RO for about 8 years (started in 2004 i believe) and it's not as grindy as bdo, endgame is literally grinding like a true autist all day everyday and breaking all your equipment trying to upgrade it a little bit

It's basically pay to not grind. I consider it pay to win but not everyone seems to think the same.

korea tier

good paypig

There's so much grinding that if you take a step back you'll see that there isn't a game at all
>t. 3000 hours

I keep saying this on chat, and I keep having some dude pm me with retarded questions. I haven't bought shit yet, and don't intend to, unless I win a lottery or some shit. you can buy all pearl items on the auction if you have the patience. always have money for VPs and several open orders for that and costumes, and you're set. you'll eventually get it.

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It's the grindiest shit ever. You have to play with multiple alt characters and spend thousands of hours idling, then on top of that there's a bunch of items on the cash shop that are basically mandatory if you want to be competent.

The game itself is not P2W, it's very p4convenience though

That being said, do not get drawn into this game. The game pretty much forces you to be online 24/7 and the RNG is terrible in it, people have lost months of work in seconds when their gear blows up. You'll also be lagging far far behind anyone who has been playing for a long time.

I wasted 18 months of my life on this game, do not do the same.

Also, BladeBoques is a cheater

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that is shit truth. you haven't played the game at all. it takes time to get good, and you're being a fuckwad that skips time and thinks he's going to be good.

its a long boring grind and I couldn't figure out what was at the end of the long grind besides pvp so I dropped it

Some items, mostly the 'pets', are basically essential, and you won't get the number you need to really perform at the level of everyone else unless you fork over that money.

yeah, it's very needy, like the most needy gf ever. you could say bdo is a waifu.
>afkskilling, always needs you to be online
>world bosses all day everyday require you to wake up at certain intervals to take care of them
>auction house is laughing at you
>chat is a fucking trap
>upgrading makes you leave and comeback a couple months later

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I got 4 free pets dude. the game literally gives you that.
>one from quest
>one from loyalty dailies
>one from returners' first time
>one from some bs promo site does once a year or during race release
the biggest problem is getting more for tier upgrade, but you can still snipe them out of AH. it's not a big deal if you're afkskilling anyway

pedos got angry because shai got them covering undies. chat was batshit and kekfest at launch

oh yeah, there was this guy too, before shai
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The pets are the only thing I'd ever consider truly 'essential' and they go for $8-11 a head and you can get five out at a time. They provide an auto-loot function that procs every X seconds and you'll only get one free from rookie attendance, maybe other events too. The pets have a stupid upgrading system where you can sacrifice for a chance at upgrading them but just having the five is good at all, although they can entail other effects which is why the Hedgehog found in limited time bundles is considered one of the best. Anything else other than weight/inventory is probably a waste.

For everything else though, there are a ton of components in the game that the devs monetized for sure and a lot of it does remind me a lot of mobile games, except that a lot of the microtransactions really don't come cheap. Despite being the selling point of the game, the stellar MMO combat it has is completely slept on and wasted on mobs dumber than musou mooks and world bosses that aren't that gear intensive, unless you're doing PvP which is very likely off-limits until you can hit softcap AP. The game doesn't even feel that alive, a ton of people are AFK doing things so they can get the silver to upgrade their shit. I don't know what it is with Korean MMOs but they just make really shitty enhancement systems on purpose, I recall SCO/AO having something as cancerous too.

Also, the NA/EU servers were meant to take a direction that had slower progression and more emphasis on harder PvE content while being a B2P instead of F2P w/ P2W, but now it's pretty much the same while you still have to 'buy' the game.

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4 pets that you get for free are enough, stop making a fuss over such non-essential feature. sure, it's boring to pick it up every time, but newbies don't go farming anywhere else but sausans or nagas, and their 2 pets (at that time) will suffice.

There are cash shop pets that do more than just picking up loot, there are pets that also give you buffs to EXP far above what you get for free.

>hurrr durr snipe them off the market
You're competing with bots for sniping and very high pre-order prices

Ive been treating the game so far like a dynasty warriors mmo and its been fun. Never really cared about the end game so havent spent any money.

Last I checked there's only two at the moment with the Kuku and Gosphy.

>high pre-orders on literal pets
>playing bdo for less than 100 hours
yeah, sure thing. I got my orders set up, you go and spend real money and then stop playing after a month of two when you reached the 250gs wall
yeah, newbies don't really have a say in the matter.
>royalty reward
>quest
>returning
>event

>rolled maehwa in 2016
>rolled valk then witch then mystic then ranger
>keep coming back to maehwa but pve is trash

Why is her pve so bad? awakened grind is so weak compared to everyone else. all I want to do is turn off my brain and grind mobs

Arent you given vouchers every week or something that eventually adds up to let you purchase something from the cash shop? I dont like the game but I always felt it was pay for convenience

>doing pve with maehwa
she's pvp, dude. also, you can use her pve, works good on nagas and ruins, but you need to know how to play. no class is truly good if the player is shit. also, your gs should always be at least a hundred above what the mobs around you are so you can grind without thinking, and maintain other players. why is it so hard to spend time upgrading your character and then going to grind? isn't that logical thing to do?

yea obviously shes pvp I'm just frustrating that when theres finally a good spear class in an mmo is relegated to pvp. gs/skill isn't the problem its just her kit is so single target and small hitboxes that theres no point in grinding with her so i just slide around on my witch rolling around pila ku. But it's been months since I've played the game so maybe its a bit better

PA hates Maewha and Dark Knight, although Musa is still good with PvE his dashing got nerfed too

how cost effective is the travelers pack? Im thinking of just going with the base game to see if ill like it or not.

dont buy it man its not worth it go play the private server its the same thing but you dont have to pay