Now that the dust has settled, can we admit he was fine and should not have been hidden?

I think you'll have to use a steel cable.

What's wrong with being hidden? Made more people look into him and find out why he was a secret.

>Pay $1000 to get your fetish character in game as a "canon character"
>Toby just hides him making him hard to find and only around for one day in the year
>Even then he is a massive joke if encountered

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>scat fetishists' self insert original character is acceptable

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>Made more people look into him and find out why he was a secret.

It's called Streisand Syndrome.

>can we admit he was fine and should not have been hidden?
no
>He is no more cringe than Tsundereplane, Alphys or Papyrus
no

Hey, Toby never specified WHERE exactly your character would appear. He probably anticipated someone paying big bucks to put their cringy OC in the game and left it vague on purpose just in case.

That's why its so perfect
He played him like a damn fiddle

Litteral waste of money

Sorry for everything I've said about you Toby, you're actually based

>It was made by a vore fetishist furfag who is probably also a pedophile. It needed to stay hidden.
yes that's right, and toby took that cash money and agreed to put him in the game no questions asked.

>and agreed to put him in the game no questions asked.

He actually put him in the game, opted not to use his actual name because it was fetishy, and put him behind a strict wall that you generally wouldn't have seen unless you actively seeked it out. He censored the absolute shit out of the character.

I don't think he anticipated it, I mean he tried to give that guy a refund at first but he kept refusing.
Perhaps he expected some shitty boring character and would place it somewhere far but still possible to find (That's pretty much what he did with that whale boss thing) but he never expected something this fucking bad.

Toby offered to refund the furfag's money and cut the character but he refused.

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Toby could have fit him into the game in a way that worked, he probably didn't want to disrupt his "vision" though

Samael's a fucking retard and his OC is shit, but Toby's redesign of Samael for So Sorry is pretty cute, especially the version with the jester hat.
Prove me wrong.

Really, it's win-win. If the dude took his money back, something less cringy replaces the margarine wyvern. If he insists on putting it in the game, Toby can abuse the loophole he set up to bury it as deep as possible.

butterfuck had no reason to accept the refund, he wanted his character in the game and toby accepted without questioning it like a dipshit. toby got butthurt that some degenerate vorephile showed him up and hid the character because he was obligated to put it in the game.

Looks pretty out of place.

No, if anything Toby should’ve forced him to take his money back and called him a filthy degenerate.

Jesus fucking christ people on the internet just act like fucking 5 year olds

WAAAAH MOMMY I DON'T LIKE THE BAD GAME GUY TAKE IT OUT OF THE GAME

internet was a mistake

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Honesty I would have too with how popular the game is now. I'd be happy to have an OC in the game

Can i get a run down please?

> Hiding a furry character in a furry game.
Why?

How do you guys feel about Muffet, seeing that she was also a kickstarter added character?

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This.
She fucking deserves it and you can't.
Hard Mode genocide route should have Alphys NEO.

>A fat fetishist Dragon made out of butter is apparently less fucking stupid than tumblr lesbians and an airplane.

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She was designed by one of the other people working on the game, she was fine.

this fucker was unfunny cringe in multiple levels and i'm glad it was hidden from the world
i can't even stand the design
jesus christ it's gross

tsundereplane was kino
alphys was intentional cringe
papyrus was too pure

fuck off op, your opinion is objective shit

Usually in that situation the head pops off rather then the noose breaking.

>toby lets people pay to put their characters in his game
>degenerate furry fetishist buys in
>toby doesn't look into him or ask about the character at all
>game starts getting popular
>toby realizes it's a fetish character and begs him to take a refund
>furry refuses, toby has to put it into the game because contract
>toby realizes he can't weasel out of the deal and hides the character behind extremely specific things most people would never find

Wish I had paid to put a chubby loli in the game

>monster yuri is tumblr now
faggot detected

No one ever talks about Mew Mew

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Pretty cringe that people would put multi-limb fetishism in the game.

>the game caters to my fetishes so it's good
Fuck off, jizzskull. The game is filled with shit.

Top tier waifu design.

Based Toby

She's not on the PC version.

>Toby Fox offers to put your character in the game for highest Undertale backers
>because of this we get best girl Muffet out of a generous backer with experience in art an character design
>same faggot a gorillion fetishes ponies up the money and wants his porn OC in there
>Toby tells him there’s no way he can reasonably put this in the game and tries to refund him
>Fetish fag refuses
>Toby puts character behind some massive obscure secret that you have to intentionally be trying to find
>Fetish fag has been buttflustered over it to this day

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Muffet is great. When comparing her to so sorry its a prime example of why you need some sort of oversight or overruling authority when it comes to allowing fan designs into your game.

Why the fuck would you want to kill Alphys? She is beautiful and perfect and you're a horrible person for wanting her to be harmed in any way.

Not on PC so irrelevant

Mad Dummy is the vastly superior design, so Mad Mew Mew suck fuck off.

Also glyde was added for a raffle, but glyde is cool

Why is that?

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Am I the only one who killed Undyne without a second thought?

name ONE character (1) that deserves the rope more than alphys

t. fat fetishist mad nobody likes your fetish

t. projecting mad cunt

He was some POS furry's vore/inflation/scat fetish OC. Toby's based for hiding So Sorry and not giving the furfag what he wants.
>oh hey, here's some funding for your game you're really devoted to making. now put my fat poop, vore, and inflation fetish character in! make him poop on the player, that'd be EPIC!
I'd take his money and shove it all down his throat.

Fucking stupid faggot lose goat who made me gay, fucking stupid asshole faggot asriel should die a million times

Forget about this beta autismdragon vorefag. Let's talk about how great Muffet is instead.

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okay mr furfag expert

The problem is not the character or even the fight itself. It's true that from an outside standpoint he is no different than any other thing in the game.
The problem is that if anyone were to look up this character's creation or trace it back to the source, it would lead to a bigger mess.

Take Muffet for instance. Same position. If Muffet came from a gay furry porn artist who drew scat and horse futa cocks on females, I can almost guarantee she wouldn't have been a required boss to fight, or in any spotlight at all.
So Sorry is basically a signature. Toby made the correct decision by asking "Are you SURE you want your signature character on this? You dont want to use a fake name or anything? THIS character? This character that can be traced back to you and used against you?" and tucking it away into an obscure corner.

Hello, I'm glad Toby had the balls to fuck over this retarded furry
NEVER FORGET LE GREEN KANGAROO

>actually challenging with low HP
>pretty much harder than Asgore
>great design
>fun personality
>was literally the only character not fucked by the UT fandom
I love this guy, too bad he's such a pain in the ass to find.

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She's one of the best fucking bosses, if not THE best, in the entire game.

> Game made by a furry
> Full of furries
> Made for furries to enjoy.
> But this furry is too far.
Explain this.

Glyde fucked me up. Dude's really hard.

there is literally zero fucking evidence that toby is a furry you stupid projecting nigger

Yea Forums is hypocritical, more news at 11

>LE GREEN KANGAROO
Story?

Glyde is inoffensive but not cool, it seems like he was cobbled together in 5 minutes by a 13 year old.

Get a load of this moron

He was involved with Homestuck which is equivalent to being a furry.

You can have animal-like characters and not actually be furry.

I never stumbled upon this character, can I get a quick rundown on what make him a vore/diaper fetish ? Of course the design is faggy as hell, and it looks quite pathetic. But still doesn't explain the fetish shit

The furries in this game are simply goat monsters that fit with the aesthetic of the game, and they are fleshed out, genuine characters.
So Sorry is fetish art, and was made specifically to be jack-off shit for people who want to see a fat furry shit and eat other furries.
There is a clear difference.

A cute fox tries to follow you tick tock.webm

look up “Samuel furry”, come back when you wanna die

>the fat goat mom is ok, but the fat dragon is not ok

?????????

tell me about glyde, never heard about this

believe or not, some furries are worse than others
this one would be close to first in line for the rope

Do you just spend time trying to think of opinions literally no one has so you can make garbage threads?

IF IT PLEASES MY DICK IT IS GOOD
IF IT DOESN'T PLEASE MY DICK IT IS BAD
IF I LIKE IT IT ISN'T FURRY FAGGOTRY
IF I DON'T LIKE IT IS FURRY FAGGOTRY

His overall design does look a bit weird, especially with his "wings". It would probably work better as an underwater monster

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>MILF goatmom with zz-cup tits and doorway wide thighs isn't furry fetishism.

The rest aren't a cheese dragon based on someone's vore fetish with Alphys' personality

furries do tend to pay good money tho, somehow
if i was good with digital art i'd consider drawing furry porn just to live the easy life

>hating on Papyrus
What does it feel like to have completely burned out serotonin receptors?

go to the weird room with the mysterious door
walk around for like 5 minutes
you'll get glyde

>zz-cup tits and doorway wide thighs

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>Undertale's creator Toby Fox, made it reward for his Kickstater the ability to add characters to the game
>Two characters fit well into the game enough, one even getting her own theme song and I'm pretty sure is a mandatory fight
>Other characters are optional and/or hidden
>However SoSorry (or whatever his name is) that you actually have to change the time on your computer to fight him realistically
>Where he then proceeds to kill you with his shitty OC's, no fucking joke

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I mean I agree but that's the level of humor throughout the entire game.

i'm taking the bait
what do you call the aliens in for example Mass Effect?
space furries?

>no actual proof
lmao

That's just fanart you stupid motherfucker. See . Toriel and all of the Dreemurr characters are devoid of sexuality in Undertale.

Implying I'm not into spider girls of many forms

wtf
I'll search for him in game then, I want to see this shitshow

I think you mean what's it feel like to not be autistic.

It was an explicit joke on the Homestuck kickstarter that had a 10k tier for "Have your character in the comic".
He should have learned that there's always going to be rich bored people since 2 of those spots got taken before he hastily closed it.

>furries can't even look at an animal character without thinking about sex
No wonder you're such degenerates that get off to showing everyone your filth.

>bait
Just because you got angry at my factual post doesn't mean what you say makes sense.
This is an Undertale thread, not a Mass Effect one.

what did toby mean by this

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best girl
one of the best fights
one of the best themes

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Secret boss that you can find in the Snowdin Forest secret room, which you have to walk around for a while until he appears (apparently this can take up to 30 minutes on the genocide route, which is pretty bullshit honestly). Gylde himself doesn't have a special mechanic or theme, but some of his attacks are surprisingly difficult for so early in the game. Booing him also makes him stronger, but he gives out more EXP than what you would normally get on the genocide route.

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I don't care about someone having a fetish based OC, it's whatever. I don't however like someone trying to insert that same OC into someone else's game in a setting that's trying to be fairly wholesome. Should have just come up with some other design that was more appropriate or returned the money like toby offered

That it’s not worth it.

>Switch exclusive
Literally in Smash as the 5th DLC

> sexualised spider with bondage fetish
Okay
> Non-sexualised dragon who's a bit fat
Not okay.

But is it wrong to have your OC in the game?

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shit user, i'm sorry that you're fucking stupid and can't understand the point
good luck with your life

Muffet was made to be a random NPC, but the funder, Michelle, was so into Undertale and the story that she helped Toby out in other areas, and then made her character around the world instead of vice-versa.
It's the process that would have made So Sorry into a decent character and less of a joke, but the creator didn't want to change anything about his vore fatfag fag dragon made of butter.

It's to be sort of expected, though. Michelle has worked with Pixar and other large companies and knows how to be part of a whole.
avasdemon.com
Maybe if it gets more page views she's FUCKING UPDATE more often.

lowiq

It's ok user. Sorry for insulting your fap material. Now go masturbate to some blue aliens or some shit to relax, and when you calm down you can try again with a more suitable argument.

>good fetish good
>bad fetish bad
That's kinda how it's supposed to work, yes.

>whale boss
?

Muffet's creator does Ava's Demon? Holy shit.
Is it finished?

Man, all I want is a Watch Dog character, like Tock from the Phantom Toll Booth.

Name him Tick, and make subtly illusions to his brother.

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admitably he is about as bad as alphys, but that just means neither of them should have been in the game

>Is it finished?
user...I

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>Your character's boss fight is set in a generic room accessible through a hidden hallway that is only accessible one hour per calendar year in typical play.
>Meanwhile the other character's boss fight becomes a required encounter, is set in their own themed room, uses several unique battle mechanics, and has two items related to them.
The ironing will never stop being funny to me.

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Muffet isnt sexualized in the game. So sorry is an OC diaperfur made by an inflation loving obese autist.

She's very cute, it's nice that dummy got a good ending.
She got DDOS'd by twitter retards twice so she stopped for a while but I think she came back some time ago.

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Yes, that's correct. Only fat spiders are allowed, not fat dragons.

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But not sexualised in game. Less so than midget even.

>Asgore
>Devoid
Muh bara

not this fucking shit again

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Literally my favorite character.

I hated her fight. She has a good design though

Yes, that's correct

he made a reference to spaghetti like once and then there was a plate of spaghetti somewhere
his schtick was pasta in general you PHILISTINE

It doesn't matter that they're not sexualized in the game, after visiting the creators FA page, it lets me know the character is fetishized.

>wags tail and acts like a submissive bitch
>blushes and turns his fat ass toward you during attacks
>less sexualized
Your OC is garbage and shouldn't be in the game.

>undertale thread is a weak excuse to discuss which furry character would the retards itt stick their dick into
like clockwork

>toby fox fills game with OCs made by degenerates, taking money as he goes along without thought
>suddenly one OC he takes money for he doesn't like
>tries to weasel out of it, without even offering back extra money like most breakup deals involve
>toby fox cuts off communication for months
Gonna have to side with the furfaggot here

Sounds pretty based to me.

>wagging tail is sexual

You're really weird user

>Trying to argue with waifufags

> Cut contact for months.
> Offer money back without interest
Literally "Thanks for the free loan".

He’d probably be into that. Best to give him a death he can’t anticipate. Like being hit by a car.

say it ain't so, user

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why start a thread like this and not include the guy's public statements on the matter?

- toby asked if the pressure on him was worth being added to the game, and offered his money back
- the guy said no it's okay please include it
- the harassment eventually subsided
- guy moved on

>toby fox fills game with OCs made by degenerates, taking money as he goes along without thought
THE ONLY BACKER OCs ARE MUFFET, GLYDE, AND SO SORRY
GLYDE IS SORT OF BORING BUT GENERALLY ALRIGHT
MUFFET WAS DESIGNED BY A PROFESSIONAL AND FIT PERFECTLY IN THE WORLD OF THE GAME, SO SHE WAS UPGRADED TO BOSS STATUS PURELY BY THE VIRTUE OF BEING THAT WELL MADE
SO SORRY IS LITERALLY SAMAEL'S FAT FETISH FURSONA, WHO HAS UNTOLD AMOUNTS OF GORE, SLOB, AND GENERALLY FUCKING HORRID ART ATTACHED TO HIM
TOBY KNEW THIS WOULD CAUSE PROBLEMS AND REPEATEDLY ASKED SAMAEL IF HE'S LIKE A REFUND, OR TO MAKE A DIFFERENT CHARACTER
SAMAEL REFUSED THE OFFERS AND LITERALLY INSTRUCTED TOBY TO HIDE IT, AND SAID AS MUCH IN HIS OWN POST ABOUT THE SITUATION
ON TOP OF THIS, SAMAEL CONSTANTLY BRAGGED ABOUT HIS INVOLVEMENT WITH THE GAME AND LITERALLY USED IT FOR $70 BATTLE MOCKUP COMMISSIONS ON FURAFFINITY, MORE THAN MAKING THE MONEY HE SPENT ON THE KICKSTARTER BACK

Alphys was originally going to be butter dragon, and that's why all the monsters melt.

>TOBY KNEW THIS WOULD CAUSE PROBLEMS AND REPEATEDLY ASKED SAMAEL IF HE'S LIKE A REFUND, OR TO MAKE A DIFFERENT CHARACTER
should have thought about that before he blindly took the money instead of being a bitch later

Someone post his art so people can lay their eyes on his pure uncensored "vision"

Wrong wrong wrong wrong jesus christ

so sorry asked for his shit to be hidden, he just wanted to be included, not put in the forefront like Muffet
you don't have to fuck with your clock time you fucking autist just go there at the specified time which you can google
he doesn't "kill you with his shitty OCs", his attacks are drawings, because he is an artist, and hitting you with his tail.

nothing in the fight is "out of place" compared to anything else. it just had more specific requirements to find him.

>be dedicated gamer
>find a well-hidden optional area
>determined to find what it is
>try to avoid just looking it up and spoiling everything
>proud of yourself for digging into this to get 100% completion
>finally SOLVED! you are about to discover the secre-
>it's a fucking fursona that the developer was bribed to add by a tranny
>but he was too ashamed to have it so he tried to hide it as much as possible
toby really took the piss on us for some shekels. imagine being that much of a sell-out

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>i don't know how kickstarter works: the post

> Muffet fits perfectly in the world and isn't out of place.
Literally a bondage fetish's OC who was a friend of Toby so he took extra effort to ensure it fit in the world.
If the fat fuck was friends with Toby, maybe he'd have his own area dedicated to his fetishism and it'd "Fit" with the game.

I fully agree, she was literally the only one I wanted to kill so fucking bad in my otherwise pacifist first playthrough and they never gave me the chance

So Sorry (as in the actual ingame design/character/fight) really isn't that bad, I don't think. It's mostly just the association with Samael and the knowledge that Samael probably would have preferred him having big fat fucking moobs and stretch marks that makes him abhorrent.

based Sammy btfo all the haters

She's a disgusting being with an irritating personality for starters

It's kind of fucked up how anyone who claims to be a fan of Undertale can turn around and shit on this one character because the person who asked for it draws fucked up fetish shit, even despite the theme of Undertale being acceptance and compassion. As if every single one of you aren't just projecting over some fucked up shit you jack off to anyway.

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>not adding any safety nets to his PAY ME MONEY TO PUT YOUR OC IN MY GAME tier
nothing about being able to exclude your oc at his discretion, no guidelines about what ocs are acceptable, just GIB MONEY PLS I PUT U IN GAEM. he was just asking for someone to sneak something stupid in the game.

>Literally a bondage fetish's OC
WHAT ABOUT IT IS A BONDAGE FETISH YOU STUPID FUCK
HOW IS IT INHERENTLY FETISHISTIC FOR SPIDERS TO USE WEBS
WHERE IS THE OFFICIAL BONDAGE ART OF THE OC DRAWN OR COMMISSIONED BY MUFFET'S CREATOR
SHOW IT RIGHT FUCKING NOW NIGGER, SUBSTANTIATE YOUR RETARDED FUCKING CLAIMS

If you would rank the OCs, from best to worst, which one holds a special place in your heart?
I really like Muffet.

you wish, muffet ended up being one of the most iconic characters with tons of waifufags
that fuck furry abomination only attracted hatred and disgust

>ON TOP OF THIS, SAMAEL CONSTANTLY BRAGGED ABOUT HIS INVOLVEMENT WITH THE GAME AND LITERALLY USED IT FOR $70 BATTLE MOCKUP COMMISSIONS ON FURAFFINITY, MORE THAN MAKING THE MONEY HE SPENT ON THE KICKSTARTER BACK
As scummy as that is, it's pretty fucking smart.
Link?

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>Yea Forums
>being compassionate or accepting towards ANYTHING
Don’t make me laugh, user.

I agree, it's fun to make jokes about it but i don't understand how so many people who claim to love Undertale are such hateful faggots.
Most Undertale fans would probably bully half the cast of the game if they were real.

>acceptance
>compassion
I jerk it to cum inflation and I'm married.
All furries must fucking hang.

I like Glyde the most just because he reminds me of old Y2K vector art mascots, and I'm a sucker for that shit.

> An anthro spider isn't a furry abomination.
Oh user.

Reminder this fat fuck replaced a funny juggalo fucker who would have had clown attacks.

Stunning and brave

>Easier than accepting you were wrong I guess
I wouldn't say he was "wrong." He paid a large amount of real money to have his OC put in the game. Anyone could've done the same, and Toby Fox made the reward tier. Its dumb and full of degeneracy, but its not wrong.

furaffinity.net/view/18598123/
This was the last one he did. Most of them were relatively harmless.

The answers possible are Muffet, Glyde, and So Sorry.
How can you expect anything other then Muffet to be #1?

>forgetting about the main man
For shame.

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>spiders = furry
I fucking hate faggots who say this shit.
Is there not a term for shit with chitin and carapaces? Why do scalies get their own term?

Hypocrisy

> When comparing her to so sorry its a prime example of why you need some sort of oversight or overruling authority when it comes to allowing fan designs into your game
How is that a 'prime example'? There's nothing wrong with SS's actual implementation to the fucking game, you just don't like the guy who paid for SS because of his fetish art which is several layers separated from Undertale or the character. I don't get how you guys can have such fucked up dissonance and not realize, if Muffet's creator was revealed to be a disgusting degenerate who drew diaper spider vore or some stupid shit, and SS were exactly the same but the creator didn't draw fetish shit, you'd all be saying Muffet doesn't belong and is disgusting but have no negative opinions of SS. Your perspective is completely fucked here.

And you're a hypocrite.

I ended three separate pacifist games by killing only him

>SO SORRY IS LITERALLY SAMAEL'S FAT FETISH FURSONA, WHO HAS UNTOLD AMOUNTS OF GORE, SLOB, AND GENERALLY FUCKING HORRID ART ATTACHED TO HIM
It's not "literally" anything, it's a kangaroo that draws pictures and doesn't like fighting. That's it. That's the extent of the monster So Sorry's character depth. There is nothing fetishistic involved.

The only backer NPC I ever cared about was the mushroom guy in Temmie Village, everything else (except for Muffet, top waifu) was completely forgettable desu

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Call it whatever you want, pal. It still means horny animal people.

I thought he was supposed to be a butter dragon? Have I been bamboozled?

Do you want a prize? I'm glad you found a way to vent your psychosis, thanks for sharing.

I suggest to term Creepy-Crawlies be applied to all bug fuggers

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I always think it's funny how the three OCs complement each other so well. One is loved by everyone, the other is hated by everyone, and literally no one gives a shit about the third one

So Sorry doesn't even count toward Pacifist or Genocide run you retarded mongoloid.

I'd argue that if the character was good then we wouldn't really care if that ever was made public. So Sorry is awful and does not fit with the rest of the game. Muffet, Glyde and the others do.

probably means glyde
youtube.com/watch?v=kwDZpriRGnc

I WANT GLYDE TO BE MY BOYFRIEND

>tries to welch out on a deal
>when that doesnt work, tries to hide a paying customers promised request
>ends up making him the most obscure, challenging easter egg

What a fucking idiot. 30 years ago this kind of easter egg would've been an honor. Good job Toby.

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Not really. I'd say only Alphy's was worse. Papyrus basically flip flopped between being annoying and being charming throughout the game.

I'm convinced that Susie might be one of the best characters Toby's ever created. I really hope Deltarune keeps going.

>I'd argue that if the character was good
You would think of him as being exactly like any other monster if you didn't know who made him. Your perspective is fucked.

> So Sorry is awful and does not fit with the rest of the game.
Awful how? For being thought up by a fetishist you don't like in real life, which has nothing to do with the character or the game. It's literally just 'a monster' like any other, with a generic gimmick of being an artist who draws art and dislikes fighting. there is nothing about his fight less "fitting" than fucking Tsundereplane

You don't like him because you know who designed him and cannot mentally separate the creation from the creator. That's your mental problem, not anyone else's.

Not that Undertales characters have much depth outside of a select few but yeah Deltarune definitely does a better job with it's characters making them more likable

Please tell me you're joking
The right answer is I love Glyde but Muffet was definitely more fleshed out
I'm sure he would be yours, user

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samael asked for it to be hidden you mongoloid

Mushroom dance mushroom dance, whatever could it
Mean
It means you’ve lived a life of sin

>that update to Undertale way back that added the NPC talking about "her neighbor's daughter suzy" and how frisk is "fated to meet her someday"

hes CUTE and COOL and i want to KISS him

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The NPC was always there, the Gaster events were just broken on release.

How is it any more out of place than Alphys, Temmie, or Glyde?

did they ever explain if all the hidden Gaster shit was viewable without fucking with your file?

>Tfw my UT folder died
Anyone got any Flowey or Glyde?

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The NPC was always there, the patch added that dialogue, that same patch also added the photo to Sans' lab with "Three people you don't recognize" (Suzie, Kris, and Ralsei) and 'don't forget' written on the back (a recurring phrase across both games).

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>MFW Muffetfags and bugfags got absolutely BTFOd

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It wasn't implemented properly on launch so the events were there but the trigger wasn't. He added it in a update

>did they ever explain if all the hidden Gaster shit was viewable without fucking with your file?
Toby patched it about a month or two after release so it's possible, yes, but it's basically pure RNG fuckery.

>The other backer characters were placed around and were original designs for the game
>One was even done by a webcomic artist and was impressive enough to be a proper boss fight
>Then this autist tries to put his already existing self-insert fat fetish vore "Butterdragon" into the game
>Demands he have an ass wiggle attack as well
>Toby really doesn't want to deal with someone's fetish work in his game and offers a refund
>Autist refuses and demands his self-insert be in the game
>Toby hides him in a deep dank corner with a time lock and names him "So Sorry" as an apology to any player to pass his path
>"Toby's duh bad guy!"
At least the fucking oil barren that kept buying backer slots for his OC Reize in games isn't a fucking degenerate.

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> Furries have gotten so acceptable that people only raise a stink when the proper weirdos come out of the woodwork.
Epic.

I have no issues with Muffet and So Sorry but even to this day I wish Glyde wasn't some super obscure hidden character

>most popular fan ship in Deltarune is straight

Kind of weird to be so acquainted with all the tumblr dregs who latch onto Toby’s games, that you’re genuinely surprised a no-strings attaches straight ship is most popular.

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>>Toby hides him in a deep dank corner with a time lock and names him "So Sorry" as an apology to any player to pass his path
the joke is that the character says "I'M SO SORRY" right before crashing into you, stupid anime poster
it's literally a dad joke

A complete saga

>He gets hated on the moment he's found and connected to, a lot of it is harsh and nasty but honestly it's what he gets for forcing his OC in instead of thinking up something that fit
>Toby, Everdred and some team-members all reach out to him to tell him that he's fine and thank him for helping support the game money wise.
>Everdred even goes on to make a big public post about how he might not give a shit about the fetish and thinks it's weird, everyone's a little weird and people should go a *little* easier on him
>So Sorry's creator feels the need to open up undertale fetish commissions labeling them as "art from someone in the game!!". Makes everything back
>Just like, seriously loses his shit when called out on how dirty that seems to be
>People go back to making fun of him after a months time
>He starts screaming at Toby to defend his honor
>Toby declines saying he's done enough and that he's really busy with the game blowing up
>So Sorry goes on to make a blogpost about how hateful the UT team is for not defending him against bullies. They stole his money! They ruined him and won't protect him! They're awful people!!
>Nobody tries to defend him anymore and he fades away.

Furries have been around for 30-45 years depending on who you ask.
Give it another ten years and I'm sure companies will realize that selling made to order fursuits is profitable and it'll get mainstream

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There's nothing inherently wrong with anthro/monster characters when they're done well. Transparently cramming your fetish into things is always going to be sort of weird, though.

>Furries have been around for 30-45 years

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Nice birdly

Basically the lesson to be learned from this is if you have a "make a character" contest, always make sure you have specified rules in place banning literal faggots from just dumping their fursona fetish shit in the game.

Modern furries you dweeb.
People drew animals back in the 1400s, 1500s, 1600s, 1700s, 1800s.
You didn't see people walking around in steam powered fly suits in 1916, did you?

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this is why you never ever let people have OC cameos without some "I reserve the right to deny your character and refund you" clause. Nobody wants your disgusting fetish art in their game.

>You don't like him because you know who designed him and cannot mentally separate the creation from the creator.
The problem isn't separating the creation from the creator, if it was the same guy but that he designed a monster specifically for Undertale I might argue that you wouldn't need to censor it, but he literally put his fetish fueled OC into the game, you can't separate his OC's weird vore fanart and shit from So Sorry since they're one and the same.

For me it's Asriel

There is no "thought up" here user.
He just wanted his fetishes in the game and used his self-insert OC he'd already had on hand.
The version in Undertale is HEAVILY chopped down from what he wanted and even then he still demanded the ass wiggle attack be left in.
Most people don't like Samual "So Sorry" Butterdragon because there was no attempt to make a character that actually fits in, there was no attempt to make someone new, and fuckers wanting their fetishes in games is what killed Kaiju Combat.
Toby did all he really could because you can't give these faggots an inch or they take a mile.
THAT'S why So Sorry is a joke, because the creator wanted to put his disgusting self-insert into the game.

>brainlets who don't get that needing to mess with your files for gaster shit makes perfect sense
i think even toby failed to realize how thematically appropriate it was.

think about it; gaster is a guy who fell into a soul processing machine and basically shattered himself across time and space. He's not dead, but also not alive-- fragments of his existence now just exist all over, in random places, watching but being unable to affect anything. Needing to mess with "the source code of their world" (the files) to find him and the followers who remember him makes sense. After all, the circumstances of his death have caused all kinds of fucked up shit to happen to their world, like infinitely splintering timelines, bits of his ghost hanging around, and shades of his lab assistants who can barely stay manifested in the real world anymore and disappear once they've passed on their Gaster knowledge to someone. Having to rename a stat or move files to find Gaster stuff is basically like putting a temporary bandaid on the fractures he caused, just to catch a glimpse of him before he disappears with high pitched laughter

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How did people not pick up on that?
How was Gaster broken?

Not steam powered, you can't trick me.
Joking. Still fucking amazing.
God I don't know how people in that era thought that looked good. Though I guess I'll be saying that in 100 years when we have laser printed holo fursits

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>The version in Undertale is HEAVILY chopped down from what he wanted
He had no say in it you stupid faggot, he didn't design So Sorry, they just took his avatar and the fact he was an artist and made what they made. He didn't know what his own sprite would look like until he was shown it in-game. Toby only offered him a refund because he was worried the bullying from people finding his artwork outside the game would be too much for him to deal with, but Samael cared more about being a part of something he was invested in and said to do whatever and keep it.

> Furries on-track for being completely acceptable body replacements in 60-80 years.

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The FUN factor didn't properly generate upon a new game if I remember right.
it's been a while, but you had to set it at the beginning of every game until Toby fixed it.

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Kris, like Frisk and Chara, seems to be purposely androgynous

>muffet's creator is a pedo
Waifu dropped
the ava's demon drama was hilarious though, especially the guy who made $300 for providing a fake ip address

>putting events out of order
He did this before UT got big. He thought Samael was having a gaff, not an actual autist shoving his fetish into a children's game.

Furfags get the rope.

I’d pay actual money to see toby’s Reaction to finding Samuel’s FA page

I want to be an 8'5 moth chad.
He's apparently seen most UT and DR porn so it probably wouldnt phase him.
He was in the HS fandom

Toby Fox's friend circle is primarily tumblrites and Homestuck fans, as I've said in this thread many times, ya'll have some fucked up lack of perspective. Bless your sweet summer heart if diaperfur is the worst thing you've ever seen.

Well, Toby already has an FA account with adult viewing enabled.

How do moths eat.
... What do they eat?

I dunno, he seems much more strongly implied to be male.

>redditos getting mad because people called Toby a furfag (which he is)

>Yea Forums's contratianism towards Undertale has gone so far people are defending Samael Butterdragon, the self-insert OC of someone who wanted to put his fat fetish and vore shit into someone's game
There's a point where we should've stopped and it's far before this.

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No. I just read his Tumblr blog post and he refers to So Sorry as his identity throughout. His identity is his fursona, the butter dragon.

Moths have proboscises which are like giant tubes
Most eat nectar. But some will perform a thing called mud-puddling for extra liquids.
No it has nothing to do with scat.
scienceabc.com/nature/animals/what-do-moths-eat.html
animalsake.com/what-do-moths-eat#targetText=In its larval stage, a,the nutrients from the soil.
t. entomologist and furfag

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I dunno man, I think putting any furry OC into your game is pretty bad. It kinda seems like splitting hairs to say that some furry is okay, but others aren't.
It's all pretty fucked up.

I think the humor of the reaction is more
>oh! seems my top backer has a FA account and ohgodisthiswhathe'saskingmetoputinthegame

>How do moths eat.
They don't. Most metamorphic insects don't have mouths in their final stage.

I think that's basically how he was written and conceptualized, but I think there are purposely no explicit mentions of his gender. But I've always seen him as male and Frisk/Chara as female.

Gaster's soul exploded after he fell into, and overloaded, a machine designed to extract soul essence (for science). The lab was immediately shut down and abandoned, with the only remaining person who knows what happened being Alphys (who takes food down there to feed the remaining soul-essence experiments that survived after the incident)

The coded terminal message of Gaster saying "What do you two think?" + Sans having 'the machine' covered up in his lab (which Toby word-of-god said 'cannot be fixed'), implies Sans and possibly Papyrus were formerly assistants to Gaster, and that Sans' proximity to the incident explains why he can sense timeline repeats are occurring but can't do anything about them.

Oh, so, when they spaz around my room for like 2 days straight they're starving to death?

Headcanon

Everything eats. They use the long bit on the front of their face to suck up nectar and sap.

basically yeah
if youve got one in your room the best i can suggest is to open the window and turn off anything bright if theyre too hard to catch

>game filled with furry OCs
>"BUT THIS ONE FURRY OC IS BAD"

>How is that a 'prime example'? There's nothing wrong with SS's actual implementation to the fucking game

>Muffet
>Created based on an actual event in the demo and takes the game's aesthetic into consideration.
>Is easy to make more or less important based on creator's plans and feelings on it, but will be a cute nod for fellow fans regardless.
>Is clearly a weird cartoon monster with a strong design based on the intended gimmick (prissy and money hungry, likes tea parties and baking).

>So Sorry
>Has nothing to do with the game at all, barely fits art style.
>Has absolutely no way to be placed into the context of the story or game.
>Design is literally the creator as a dragon, no theme or identity, Toby had to come up with "he's awkward" to carry him.

See also Shovel Knight. Mr. Hat and Phantom Striker are Muffet tier, Baz and Reize are So Sorry tier. Yacht Club just put in more effort to integrate them anyway.

No, the only 'headcanon' is whether "you two" is Sans and Papyrus, but common sense dictates this is the case since Gaster, Sans and Papyrus are the only characters thematically based around typefonts, and Sans has way more knowledge of things than he logically should considering he is otherwise just a lazy prankster.

Everything else is just connecting dots that are already there, not head canon.

You two might be thinking of crane flies?
Most final stages still need to eat unless they have really short lifespans

>The larvae of a few species consume other living aquatic insects and invertebrates, which could potentially include mosquito larvae, though this has not been documented.[10] Many adults, however, have such short lifespans that they do not eat at all,[10] and, despite widely held beliefs that adult crane flies (or "mosquito hawks") prey on mosquito populations, the adult crane fly is anatomically incapable of killing or consuming other insects.[11]

proof?

One of them is a fetish self-insert instead of a self-deprecating animal person.

>slurps you up anus

Gaster events are all encountered by entering a room while your save file has a specific "Fun" value in your save file. Toby fucked up and all of the events that alter the "Fun" value altered the "fun" value instead, so none of them properly triggered except for the Wrong Number Song.
youtu.be/55jt23G3xqc

Except Samael never asked him to put anything fetish related in the game, as has been said like twenty fucking times. He never even saw the sprites for his character until they were already made. His character and battle have nothing fetish related. 99% of people who played the game never even saw him casually and the 1% who did, without awareness of his completely separate unrelated fetishes on a different website, thought it was just an artist kangaroo or some shit, and nothing in his fight implies otherwise.

>One of them

>You two might be thinking of crane flies
I'm saying literally the opposite of what the other post is saying. I also described the same thing as this post

>one of them

I admire your dedication to your interests.
Even if moths are kinda weird.

I can't place a fetish on Papyrus unless you really like moving slow and pasta.

You know to be fair. So Sorry doesn't seem to be all that far removed from Alphys, both annoying characters, both have a dragon/dinosaur design.

She contrasts well with other characters.

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Yeah yeah, sorry.
I like animals, what can I say.
I'm studying in marine biology too but I'm not going to get into that for the sake of brevity.

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Yes, one.
Would you like to list some more?

>Two of them

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What a slut, she totally expected to get fucked by Susie

The only thing we can admit here is when you make a kickstarter reward of "your character will be put into the game", you should think twice before you open the floodgates without further stipulating conditions to whoever that character may be.
"Lol, what could possibly go wrong?"

Look up Colossal Kaiju Combat, they did the same thing, but got 2 fetish OCs, a giant vore dinosaur(which fit the aesthetic) and a giant green kangaroo, just a big green kangaroo, not even remotely kaiju like.

I'm REALLY hoping chapter 2 is Noelle in the dark world. I want to see her fight and get her carpet munching on with susie

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I wanna fuck berdly

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CKC died not because of the Macrofag autism, but because there wasn't a single fucking decent programmer on that whole team. It was all artists.

It's Vriska from Homestuck, except with a Moomin face and scaled down to normal levels of teen bitchiness. She even has the same outfit.

Yeah I'd take that over someone's fetish character.

He asked for his character to be hidden, and you don't decide what does or doesn't fit in the artstyle (this is just a stupid claim that could be made about any monster design someone PERSONALLY doesn't like).
>design is based on his avatar because that's what he paid for them to add
Like are you guys fucking jealous of being too poor to add your superior OC or fucking what? Why do you care so fucking much if the most optional thing in the entire game exists? Like you know a fucking thing about "consistent artstyle" or fucking whatever

Yes, Muffet was implemented more prominently and was thus given more care and focus, than a cameo the creator asked them to hide away, because they didn't need to be a story boss or have some big gimmick. They just wanted to be in the game and could afford to be in it so they were. Get over it.

Christ you want to talk bad OC implementation, at least it's not that fucking Boomerang Anime Guy who the artist kept paying to add him unchanged to every single kickstarted game

Why he is an ass

You'd get rid of Muffet for another skeleton?

>and scaled down to normal levels of teen bitchiness.
Considering bitchiness was Vriska's only character trait, that's a direct improvement.

Calm down, butterdragon.

>boomerang anime guy
Oh fuckkkk, I remember that autistic fuck.
I can’t remember how many things were wrong with him though

Practically every character in the game

I want him to bully me

Vriska was just an exaggeration like all the other trolls anyway. Retards didn't get it and went "BUT SHE'S A MURDERER" when most of the trolls are. Toby had the good sense to not complicate the message.

Jesus, there are better options for that

Unless you want bird dick that badly

You can say this twenty more times and it won't make your crazy coping true.
His character in the game is his own identity. He says this on his blog. His identity is his fursona. His fursona is the butter dragon. He commissions fetish porn of the butter dragon. They are related.
Yes, Samael didn't want the game to be linked to his "niche interests," that's true. But he did ask for his fursona, the one related to the fetish porn drawn of it, to be put in the game.
Nobody saw the character casually, not even 1%. They only saw him because they heard about the secret butter dragon fursona on the internet.

It happened. It's okay to admit it. Nobody really cares too much about it.

Imagine having such an empty life that you feel the need to defend some gross guy's butterdragon on a Tuvan throat singing RSS feed

>at least it's not [character the post you're replying to directly compared So Sorry to because it's the exact same shit]
Oof

See
You know, the very post you didn't read but thought appropriate to reply to you.
Cope harder, butterball.

>board obsessed with the shittiest fetishes around thinks a butter dragon fursona of an autist is too much

So on a scale of 1 to sopping deer pussy, how absolutely dragon cock'd is this girl going to get by Susie in the next chapter?

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>Unless you want bird dick that badly
You know it

The creator of the Butterdragon knew full well that children playing the game would be subject to his depravity, being hit with his oc's tail, part of his fetish. I imagine the knowledge of this strengthened many erections. Disgusting!

She is going to go through a huge character arc about getting over her dad’s death, then asks Susie out and gets rejected, only to kill herself one hour later

She isn't gonna win the susiebowl

The creator of muffet is a literal pedophile and probably got off to the idea of subjecting kids to bondage via their spider OC.

Fuck off furfag

Smallest soul possible: dislikes Papyrus

I'm not defending the artist or his fetishes, I'm simply confused how you can't comprehend your utter lack of perspective here. You are absolutely only bothered by So Sorry at all because you were made aware of his creator's fetishes which have absolutely nothing to do with the character or the game. Despite them ASKING for the cameo to be hidden you retards who hate him, still push this narrative that Toby 'hid' it out of some kind of shame when that's not what happened.

>His character in the game is his own identity. He says this on his blog. His identity is his fursona.
It boggles my mind that you just double down on refusing to acknowledge what you are repeatedly affirming; that you cannot separate the character in the game from the creator because 'now you know' and it bothers you because you don't like that guy's fetishes, even though this character-- representing his furry avatar or not-- has absolutely no fetish related qualities besides representing someone you 'now know of' as a very weird furry porn artist. Even though the character does absolutely nothing relevant to that.
>Nobody saw the character casually, not even 1%. They only saw him because they heard about the secret butter dragon fursona on the internet.
wow I didn't know we had an omnipotent psychic in the thread.

Your post was fucking garbage and is like 99% subjective opinion being greentexted like fact. You don't decide what fits the artstyle of the game or not. You didn't make it. You are literally seething that a fat degenerate furry had the money to be a part of the game rather than whatever you think would be 'better'.

incidentally i have to say, it is adorable the way Yea Forums suddenly becomes a bunch of high-ground moralists about 'degenerate' furries or 'sick fucks' or whatever even as one of the board's most prolific memes is how much they want to fuck loli cunny. You guys wouldn't happen to be... projecting, just a bit, would you?

>then asks Susie out and gets rejected, only to kill herself one hour later
As a game designer, you don't want to shit on your audience

Killing would be a kindness. Putting her in the stocks and pelting her with tomatoes works better

>Tsundereplane
What's the joke? A pun? Or just autism?

Source?

I won't lie, I draw some of the same shit that Sam does, but I'm not so fixated on my fucking fetish OCs that I would force them into a game that clearly isnt going for that shit. He should've just designed a different character instead of inserting his fetish sona in there.

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0 if toby has a shred of decency

Toby made the fish fuck the lizard, it’s too late for not shitting on them

>implying it's not him
He's coming at it from the angle of "aren't you jealous?" and "what's wrong it doesn't bother anyone" when the criticism is "it's lame, it's lazy, and it wasn't as well considered as Muffet."

Why toby thought that allowing a large backer to the game to add a character was a good idea is beyond me.

Doesn’t he know the only people to have large amounts of money are kissless virgins who don’t have a family or anything to provide or pay out for, it’s the same with these disgusting twitch white knights who pay their entire wages towards female streamers

It’s almost like he knew he’d get their attention.

hi hoodoo

Intentionally mispronouncing dere as "dair"

0 because of this

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His audience is underage tumblrinas and Yea Forums newfags, though. They love that shit.

You can stop using the macrofags as a excuse user. The team has come out and admitted that they had no idea what they were doing when it came to making a game and it fell apart because they took on more than they had any right too.

It's cringy as fuck to force your ocs in there but they had no effect on the game itself.

hey based moth bro remember me.

100%

Toby already put dykes in the last game

>You are absolutely only bothered by So Sorry at all because you were made aware of his creator's fetishes
Care to point that out anywhere in
Let me repost it so you can single out where the criticism is "we fetishes" instead of "lazy cunt"
>Muffet
>Created based on an actual event in the demo and takes the game's aesthetic into consideration.
>Is easy to make more or less important based on creator's plans and feelings on it, but will be a cute nod for fellow fans regardless.
>Is clearly a weird cartoon monster with a strong design based on the intended gimmick (prissy and money hungry, likes tea parties and baking).

>So Sorry
>Has nothing to do with the game at all, barely fits art style.
>Has absolutely no way to be placed into the context of the story or game.
>Design is literally the creator as a dragon, no theme or identity, Toby had to come up with "he's awkward" to carry him.

Go on user. Quote the part where this is about the fetish and not it being shit. You can do it.

It's always gone wrong for kickstarters. Except darkest dungeon.

>shitting on furdragon thread
>original moveset of so sorry STILL not posted

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They are five year-olds, dipshit. Kids get into the net with their smartphones at a young age, totally uncensored with no supervision from their egotistical arrogant retard parents, and proceed to get brought up by it.

Everything they used to say in concern about the "tv generation"? Those worries were too early, it's the internet generation that have never experience meaningful interpersonal reality that are the hazard. Kids who fall for the cheapest and loudest bait at a young age and never encounter anything else will continue to behave like 5 year olds long after they've grown up until a disaster strikes.

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This, it was also just pretty nice having a character that was against the pacifism playstyle in general.

this comment is nowhere near good enough for you to think it bears repeatedly reposting. you are owning yourself.

Are you the dude I talked with a few weeks back?
How's it been>?

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>You are absolutely only bothered by So Sorry at all because you were made aware of his creator's fetishes which have absolutely nothing to do with the character or the game.
He 100% demanded his OC so people would commission him for fetish porn. And they did, in droves compared to before UT. He used it as an add for his artwork, you literally can't remove the fetish from this.

To his credit it's not like Toby knew his game was going to fucking explode the way it did. Before release only like 50 people knew what it was lmao

Atlas is such a good by

Darkest Dungeon is Kino as fuck, I just wish more kickstarter games were on that level of quality.

I've only reposted it once.
Now go on user.
Quote the part about fetishes. You're not just shitposting, are you? It should be easy. Go on.

most people on here played Undertale on PC years ago when it came out and only remember the characters that were originally added.

>Baz and Reize are So Sorry tier. Yacht Club just put in more effort to integrate them anyway.
Except they used Reize of their own volition as a major part of the Specter Knight campaign

You cannot separate the character from the fursona because it's the exact same character.
The creator had the same character he uses for fetish commissions put in the game.
This isn't about morals or degenerates or anything. I don't give a fuck about that. However, I do care to correct your endless denial that some fetish porn fursona is in the game.

>Yacht Club just put in more effort to integrate them anyway.
Read nigga, read.

His ass, it's the same creator of Ava's Demon.

I like the game's character and world design but I can not bring myself to play it. Turn based rpgs are already a hard sell for me, so a hardcore one has put me off playing it.

I like really well hidden secrets in games like that fight. So he's good on that level. Knowing the reason he's hidden makes it funny too.

>You are absolutely only bothered by So Sorry at all because you were made aware of his creator's fetishes which have absolutely nothing to do with the character or the game.
It's the exact same character, it has everything to do with the character in the game.

Is that your character or are you just very fond of him?

Maybe he's confusing it with Floraverse.

yay im that crazy person who wants to go on a fur genocide rember me?

If you're referring to the F-List profile with all the scat and fart stuff, that profile wasn't made by Samael.

>people HONESTLY think the deer isn't getting SUSIE'D

LOL

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Also, keep reading his blog post. He absolutely was bothered at the extent Toby hid his character (the one he refers to as himself (his fursona (he gets fetish porn commissioned of it))) samael.tumblr.com/post/131755830075/undertale-so-sorry

your thesis, that the design is totally fine and would be perfectly acceptable outside of the drama, reeks of a butthurt furry trying to justify his degeneracy.
>I'm not one of those pervert furries I just like cartoon animals haha
it's utterly transparent. nobody would be REEing as hard as you are if this wasn't so.

The expectation is that they are gonna get together, Toby mentioned he wants to not meet expectations with deltarune

he offered to refund it

I feel like I'm the only person that actively dislikes her, or at the very least think she is a weird addition as a main boss.
Her theme is good and boss fight is decent, but in the grand scheme of things she just feels so tacked on. She should have been more of an optional boss, I don't think she's fleshed out and interesting enough to be a main boss.

She's definitely gonna be a party member, I doubt she'll get with Susie though it'll be too obvious, I don't see Noelle having a good ending.

someone post the undertail screencap with the fetish shit

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>the vore fetish furfag obese kangaroo may be a pedophile, but at least he's not lol so randum like the skeleton

>I doubt she'll get with Susie though it'll be too obvious
Not at all like lizard and the fish right? they kept talking about each other the entire fucking game

This post was made to drum up drama and publicity for his Undertale mockup commissions. Samael had a previous post (which he deleted) talking about how he was fine with the implementation.
Samael is infamous among fatfags for being a fucking snake who loves to backstab people any time he can. He's a faggot among faggots.

Yes, which is why I doubt Toby would go for the exact same thing a second time, it'd be too obvious.

Okay but does that make the character into a totally innocent kangaroo

the difference here is that as far as we know susie and noelle have never actually directly interacted

You are singling out complaints about SS that apply to dozens of other monsters, there is no "consistent artstyle" the encounters in the game, every monster looks completely different. SS is no more out of place designwise than anything else. You can't see SS as a "weird cartoon monster" like Muffet because you know who it's based on and it taints your opinion of the completely inoffensive, unremarkable cameo character itself.
>Has absolutely no way to be placed into the context of the story or game
Oh yeah unlike Froggits or a fucking volcano or a talking training dummy, oh man, so immersive, so world-enriching. Shut the fuck up you dumb faggot. Just admit you don't like this guy and it's coloring your opinion of this random NPC. Your list of 'complaints' about this character is shallow as fuck and is absolutely 100% based on you finding out about its creator.
>fetish porn fursona is in the game
Nothing about So Sorry is "fetish porn" related. You are making that association based on knowing who the actual person is, and cannot separate the two. You will not admit this because then you would have less justification to keep shitposting as if you are morally a better person.
It's a character in the game, and you know who it is created by and what they draw-- which is irrelevant to the character in the game-- and cannot mentally separate the two. You will not admit this because then you would have less justification to keep shitposting as if you are morally a better person.

can you post it elsewhere? i dont want an account for thatsite

Seratonin would if anything make you distrust Papyrus's forceful antics

>We should trust what this snake says
But why

Oh, my dude, I'm not
I merely pointed out the fact that you're a clown.
Also Yea Forums, despite being one of the worst boards, was never Yea Forums. Not now, not fifteen years ago.

>It's a character in the game, and you know who it is created by and what they draw-- which is irrelevant to the character in the game-- and cannot mentally separate the two. You will not admit this because then you would have less justification to keep shitposting as if you are morally a better person.
No they're quite literally the same character, Toby just censored him and give him another name.

Would you still like Muffet if you found out the creator liked some fucked up shit you thought was bad? I'd argue no, but I'm sure you will say yes just to not come off like a hypocrite.

The furry refers to the in-game version of the character as himself
How can you continue to deny that they're the same?

... Is Glyde slightly pink? That's significant when a battle sprite has some colour isn't it?

It could always be worse.

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I really don't care about their fucked up fetishes. Muffet and So Sorry and whatever they're related to in out of game do not change how I much I liked Undertale.
I'm just baffled by the guy writing walls of text denying that Samael the Butter Dragon is related to so sorry.

It’s one of them things where you have to get invested and plan your actions accordingly, especially due to the permadeath because one fuck up and you can loose your most levelled character in your party just from a simple fuck up.

But getting the mechanics down and succeeding is really gratifying due to the difficulty and shouldn’t be a turn off, you’ve just gotta reach the difficulty curve

>SAMAEL CONSTANTLY BRAGGED ABOUT HIS INVOLVEMENT WITH THE GAME AND LITERALLY USED IT FOR $70 BATTLE MOCKUP COMMISSIONS ON FURAFFINITY, MORE THAN MAKING THE MONEY HE SPENT ON THE KICKSTARTER BACK
I'm still angry about this

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>You are singling out complaints about SS that apply to dozens of other monsters
Guess what?
Those aren't guest characters.
I'm talking about what makes a good guest character and a bad one.
Keep seething and moving the goalposts, Samael. You still haven't actually pointed to the supposed critique for being a fetish character. I'll keep waiting for it. It must be in there somewhere since you were so adamant.

After all, it's 100% inconceivable that someone could just think your self-insert sucked, right? It MUST be illegitimate complaints! Nobody could POSSIBLY think a wallaby-dinosaur with shit hair and a beta personality blows!

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My love for Noelle underscores my disdain for artwork that depicts her inaccurately

At least it's not anal vore

You've fucked up, Yea Forums. Your OC could've been in Undertale instead of Samuel's if you'd shilled enough cash. How does it feel to miss out in contributing to such a popular game?

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I actually just have nothing more urgent to do right now, so I am choosing to try and convey that you faggots have a massive double standard about judging others in a way you almost certainly pray everyday never happens to you. Every single time you jerk off to some Asanagi doujin of tentacles climbing through a girl's ass and out her mouth or spank it to some NTR shit, I hope So Sorry pops into your mind and kills your boner forever. You guys are massive degenerate faggots and seeing you pretend you're experts on character design simply to justify hating someone who draws fetishes you don't like or whatever is hilarious

This is getting kinda dull though, you guys are just repeating the same shallow responses over and over that only reinforce that this is about you not liking the fetishes they're into because they aren't the fetishes YOU'RE into.

People hate drawing long faces.

Undertale isn’t for you

So Sorry

Feels bad, I could've had actual vorefaggotry slipped in instead of Samael's lame shit.
dig the thick tail though

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Given the absolute lengths you've gone to in order to defend So Sorry, I'm led to assume that you're either the creator of the character, somebody close to him, or personally invested somehow.
I would ask that you examine the life choices that led to you arguing in vain on Yea Forums about something that does not matter, especially when you must realize that you are in fact in the wrong. I pity you, and I will give you no further attention.

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I couldn't give less of a shit, I don't have a 1000 buckets to waste into the satisfaction of having my OC be in someone's game, I'd rather spend that money on making my own game.

My OC is in the game, dipshit.

is that a 2033 reference?

Wow! Everyone's very impressed by your haughty walls of text that completely ignore what people are telling you to make cute snarky quips about how you're a much better person than them.

Yeah, Yea Forums's OCs would be so much better
>haha furry girl with oversized feet that attacks you by touching you with her dirty soles UGU
>haha furry girl that attacks by growing in size and putting you inside her vagoo hehe
>haha furry girl that is gassy and farts on you wouldn't it be gross haha

this but it'd be a girl (male)

If they were "quite literally the same character" then why doesn't he draw dragon inflation onscreen and show it to you with a link to his furaffinity account. oh, because one is a fictional character that has nothing fetish related and one is a real person who draw fetish porn and you cannot mentally separate the two

this is why society is really going down the shitter, the utter lack of capacity for people to separate fiction from reality. this is why sjws demand tons of "representation" in games and movies fyi, because they also cannot separate reality from fictional media.

>If they were "quite literally the same character" then why doesn't he draw dragon inflation onscreen and show it to you with a link to his furaffinity account
Because Toby Fox censored the character, it's still obviously the same character as they have the exact same design.

the question is why does Sans know so much but Papyrus doesn't?

>Game promotes tolerance of monsters
>Game hides the biggest monster of all in shame
Samael knew this hypocrisy and he blogged about, providing the most profound moment in the history of gaming.

Kill yourself!

Because Toby changed the character, as previously mentioned and confirmed by the greasy reptile himself.

Are you okay?

Furries have been around ever since man had a bit too much time on their hands and a few extra animal pelts. Animalism is OLD, and you better believe there were fuckers doing weird sex shit with it.

>tfw reading this gave me a boner
I'm too far gone at this point, I think.

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Can someone who has some spare bucks quickly make a random cute OC and go back in time to donate to the undertale kickstarter? Think about what could've been

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i didn't say they weren't related
i didn't say it wasn't based on him
i didn't say his fetishes are not fucked up
i said THE CHARACTER and THE PERSON are SEPARATE. and that people here CANNOT SEPARATE them mentally, in order to have some proper perspective on the character alone. if you did not know who the creator behind it was you would have no opinion on it whatsoever, you wouldn't be crying about how it ~doesn't fit the artist~

>Because Toby Fox censored the character
Source? I know you don't have one but I'll ask anyway.

All because she confirmed none of her characters were agender or asexual or some dumb shit too.

>All because she confirmed none of her characters were agender or asexual or some dumb shit too.
from what I remember at least the first time it was because she drew vaguely lewd art of the characters and people flipped their shit because they're 16 or something

samael.tumblr.com/post/131755830075/undertale-so-sorry

Read, simpleton.

Papyrus has some knowledge, we just don't know how much. He can make you blue like Sans can, and if you go into Sans' room for the treadmill prank, Papyrus remarks
>Has Sans been pranking you across time and space? I hate it when he does that!
And then the kicker is that Papyrus never fought to harm you. He holds back the entire time. He probably doesn't know as much as Sans, but he definitely knows something. He's just too good natured and likes the Underground too much to care.

Yeah, despite it being her literal self-insert and the story being one she started in high school.

He actually mentions spaghetti at aboutid say 3 seperate parts of game. The date, pacifist post game i think, and the ending where he becomes king. Aside from that theres a plate of spaghetti at a save point and that's it.
Really id say papyrus is less about spaghetti and more about being eccentric and wanting friends. I also love that his stats outclass damn near every other monster in the game hes just too nice to make use of them.

According to this thread it's a wound that has never stopped hurting. I've never seen such hypocrisy in my life.

>I do not care for this fat cartoon dragon because I know it's based on a REAL person who likes porn of fat cartoon dragons. Disgusting. Now if you'll excuse me, I have sexual drawings of cartoon children to post about. CUNNNYYYYYYYYYYY

>Source? I know you don't have one but I'll ask anyway.
Samael literally says himself on his tumblr it's the same character.

Pancakes.

Because sans is ness

That has nothing to do with Toby censoring shit. Give a source or shut the fuck up.

Stay mad, Samael.

Best spider girl.

But that's just a theory.

I wanted an Asriel ending where you lose and he rubs his big feet all over your face until you reset the game.

Untrue. There are more than a few insects with final metamorphosis that is purely for reproduction over a few days and just does away with any mouth parts.

It's already been posted but here, read it yourself dumbass samael.tumblr.com/post/131755830075/undertale-so-sorry

A GAY THEORY

How did I possibly find this guy blind? Reading through this thread makes it seem like it'd be difficult but I just ran into him, didn't even fight him he just ran away after a turn or two

Wait, how is it not hypocritical then to give Samael shit but not her? Muffet's creator is a pedophile! Disgusting! Muffet never fit into the artstyle of the game anyway and it's LITERALLY her spidersona which means the character is LITERALLY her! Which means Muffet is LITERALLY into children!

The creator of the character intended them to be the same and that character represents himself. This is why they can't be separated.
Sure if you don't know then you don't know, but that's just ignorance.

OP tried so hard for an entire fucking thread to defend the shitty fatfag OC.

>ness

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And in more civilized parts of the world, nobody would even bat an eye at that.
Ah, Americans ~

Muffet is not her spidersona

>sexualised
Because she looks slightly female? That's not what sexualisation is, you fucking retard

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Imagine all the potentially powerful male minds in this thread, gossiping about the lowest of the low, sensationalising degeneracy. Look at yourselves! What will generations to come think of you!

Yea Forums always finds new ways to impress/depress

>wagging tail is sexual
don't play dumb, he literally calls it the "hypnotic tush wiggle" in game.

A NIGGER THEORY

I don't know why this image always gets me

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Oh look another one of these
Looks like you're down here on our level :)

I guess it's true that user never forgot.
This whole thread reeks of one pathetic man desperate for attention, but ending up with the wrong kind of it. Instead of warm, buttery dragon-worship, the lowly troglodyte only finds a bathtub of cold diarrhea to drink.
Haha.

>Muffet never fit into the artstyle of the game anyway and it's LITERALLY her spidersona
She's not, she was designed specifically for the game and is based on the spider bake sale of the demo.

noelle tying a noose gets me everytime

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>No rebuttal, just insolent disregard
You know it's the truth

There is no such thing as a self-described furfag. Furfaggotry means an arrogant lack of self-awareness.

Except Ava is her self-insert.

The entire game is cringe, now please return to your furry friends on tumblr.

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>Furfaggotry means an arrogant lack of self-awareness
Damn, I can't believe you just called all Yea Forumsirgins a furfag

>Muffet's creator is a pedohile!
This one sticks out to me. She isn't, so what's your proof?

based

>posts cringeemblem

I wish I could be as cool as this user. I'll never have the guts to stand up for the downtrodden degenerates that PAY TO PUT THEIR FURSONAS WITH FETISH PORN COMMISSIONS IN VIDEO GAMES. They're just misunderstood because people know about it. The video game version isn't tied to all that yucky stuff because you're not supposed to know about it.

>Steven After Not Surviving
Holy shit that's forced.

>he doesn't know
No furries use tumblr anymore

Perhaps

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I concur, phone user

fpbp
kill yourself degenerate piece of shit you will burn in hell

This

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How do you react to finding out he is the final boss of delta rune?

>hating on The Baz

It'd be kinda hypocritical since one of the main characters in deltarune is just toby fox's fursona

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I call it degeneracy, and you think I'm defending it? You may be retarded.

Hot take: if it wasn't for the fetish faggot commissioner that was behind this character's inception, Yea Forums would have been all over this fucking fat dragon's dick. Don't think I don't know the mind set of the average pervert that inhabits this place. So Sorry would have been drowning in fan made porn had it just been a generic shy / fat dragon enemy that was hiding away in some part of the game and NOT associated to the disgusting fetish guy in any way.

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Toby Fox never commissioned pictures of Ralsei anal voring anybody though

or did he

I mean probably but that's not saying much, there's porn of every monster in that game

a pointless hypothetical

Man I hate fucking Deltarune porn.
>that SSSonic ralsei comic
BROS

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He made deltarune so people would draw his comissions for free

based

I see what you're saying, but fatness is unattractive in general. It's surprisingly niche, even for the depths of humanity like Yea Forums.

W-what

hard times make real niggas
real niggas make good times
good times make bitch ass niggas
bitch ass niggas make hard times

POST LINK RESUKOFAG

>I see what you're saying, but fatness is unattractive in general
>the mountain of cattie/catty porn

Wanna try that again user? this time taking into account cartoon animals and perverts that like thicc?

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It was ok. Sqoon's stuff was better though.

Even most of /trash/ hate fatniggers

Fair point, I should have been clearer with my point.
Male obesity is generally considered unattractive.

How do you like your Susie? Original, or Extra Thicc?

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Nah, trying to shove your fetish project into someone else's game is a dick move. Say what you will about the degeneracy Sans and Papyrus inspired they're just a couple of comical skeletons, it's not their fault everyone is horny as all hell, there's a very believable reality where they didn't become sex symbols. But when you shove your sex symbol into someone's game without telling them what it is that's a dick move. Have all the unspeakable fetishes you want, just be polite about the.

Okay, that's it, I'm telling mom

Jerry

Maybe barafaggots would but I don't think you can count those as people technically.
Fat fetishists are scum and intrude on girls having some nice thighs or an ass.

I remember thinking it would be hard to find sans pron. Boy was I wrong

>Say what you will about the degeneracy Sans and Papyrus inspired they're just a couple of comical skeletons, it's not their fault everyone is horny as all hell, there's a very believable reality where they didn't become sex symbols.
I think part of the appeal of R34 is taking something non sexual and making it highly sexual. There's no point in R34 something that's already degenerate.

>Maybe barafaggots would but I don't think you can count those as people technically.
Bara is the literal opposite you tard, it's being attracted to muscle not fat.

While there is some there's hardly any porn of papyrus compared to sans, and that comes almost entirely from pent up 13 year olds who want a "daddy" to beat them up.
What's also partially responsible is the whole onceler thing

Bara is fat+muscular, aka bearmode.
You know this.

I don't know if that's it. I think it's just people get way too attached to fictional characters now.

EXTRA THIC.
Moar

>Bara is the literal opposite you tard, it's being attracted to muscle not fat.
sure in concept but all the barafaggots here ever post are lardasses
you never see them post actually muscled men you just see them post degenerate lardass furries and then some retard with a fetish for bowser will show up too

It's not, sure the strongman aesthetic which includes muscle with some belly/gut can be included into bara but it's not all it is.

Well sure but that's just furries being absolute subhuman degenerates in general.

The mind of the clueless furry at work. Just because you're into sick shit doesn't mean everyone else is. They may minimally tolerate you but they are not one of you.
I bet this is the same poster making the long winded posts defending the butter dragon because he was gradually shifting his mantra to be about everyone being hypocritical over fucked up porn.

>What's also partially responsible is the whole onceler thing
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Correct. It's why people want to fuck the spyro dragon baras

>Correct. It's why people want to fuck the spyro dragon baras
That's not a real thing, Post proof.

poor, sweet, naive user
i envy you
>That's not a real thing, Post proof.
have you been in literally any spyro thread since the remake got announced

>post proof
Go find your own porn

>frisk
*the player
>update
*it's a console exclusive feature

Who is this qt?

>That's not a real thing, Post proof.
nice try user, but no spoonfeeding

post sauce user

>God I don't know how people in that era thought that looked good. Though I guess I'll be saying that in 100 years when we have laser printed holo fursits
I think you can say that easily today, do you think they look any good? I thought it was general consensus among people that fursuits are unnatural as fuck, the bee thing looks about as good as the shit you see today he's just not wearing a mask.

Furries are a bit more nuanced than that.
With humans, the scale is Body Builder > Fit > Normal > Thick > Fat.
With furries it's Pulsating mass of muscles with vague indications of limbs > So muscular he's wider than he is tall > Excessively muscular > Body Builder > Fit > Normal > Femboy > Fat > Super Fat > The Blob > A Sphere.

Stuff like Bara with furries tends to be chubby guys with strong arms.
Body builders and such tend to just be in the muscle-fag catagory.

>he doesnt have terabytes of flowey porn & reaction pics on his google drive
look at this pleb and laugh

All the decontextualization in the world couldn't save that abomination.

spiders are not animals.

Nor are dragons. They're imaginary constructs.

A-Asriel thread...?

I love him, he's mine

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You're also not taking into account the *type* of fat or muscle. "Realistic" fat tends to have stuff like fat rolls, moobs, and so on; that's what Samael's fursona normally is. So Sorry, on the other hand, is less horrible because it's the "cartoony" sort of fat— more round than flabby.

what the fuck is this?

Someone get the melatonin cuz this user is too woke.

>he doesnt have terabytes of flowey porn
Is there really that much flowey porn? I remember nutting too him years ago and there wasn't much.

I beat Undertale on PC. Is this like one of those console exclusives or something?

No.

>Nor are dragons. They're imaginary constructs
>He doesn't know

Toby didn't care about the vore shit but begged him to take the money back once he saw the guro corpsefucking stuff the guy draws but he was too up his own ass and thought his fursona was gonna be famous

True.
Furries go all on specifics.

>guro corpsefucking
I didn't know he was that FUCKED

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Yeah dude, he eats people, turns them into butter, shits it out into a subway sandwich roll, fucks the roll and then eats it again.

the secret is resizing the best pictures and saving them over and over with different names, inflating your folder in the process
seriously though there's tons of undertale stuff in pixiv & twitter that hasn't even been uploaded to e621/e926/r34.xxx/any other boorus yet, and if you want to get started collecting images just check the daily /utg/ threads in /vg/

>cute trope plane
>heart of gold skeleton
>sans

>On the same level as fetish mcgee

I'm glad Toby has SOME self awareness.

No, I hate him and I’m upset that he made me homosexual

It's probably just because the game was fairly new at that point.
>using e926
ISHYGDDT

The scary thing about this kind of fetish is that they never present it as the horrible cannibalism that it is but as a cute "oh I'm getting eaten haha!" cartoony thing.