No Terry, No Smash

In an interview Sakurai mentioned that what inspired him to create Smash was him destroying a newbie, he mentioned Zanretsuken combos in a KoF game. The move/type of combos he mentioned belong to Ryo Sakazaki (he appears in the background in the short demo Sakurai showed of some of Terry's moves).

Terry as shown by the trailer belongs to Fatal Fury and the aforementioned Ryo belongs to Art of Fighting. Both are set in the same universe, but over a decade apart. The first time a character from a fighting game crosses over into another is Ryo in Fatal Fury Special as a secret boss. This went over well with fans of the series.

Then comes in KoF, the first company wide 3v3 crossover fighting game, it even predates X-men CotA by a couple months. A pretty big eason that KoF was created was so that Terry and Ryo could fight each other without having to worry about the difference in their ages as well as putting in a bunch of SNK's characters from other games.

In short, Sakurai took inspiration from KoF to make Smash. Without Fatal Fury and without Terry it's quite possible there would be no KoF, and with no KoF there's no Smash. So without Terry and Fatal Fury it's possible that there would've been no smash. This is besides the other contributions SNK has made for FGs, etc.

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Yeah, we get it. Terry is the sole reason why Smash exists.

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>eat your veggies
>favorite food: fast-food, club sandwiches made by Rock
That liar, I hope Kukri pranks him again.

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>Sakurai made smash simple enough for anyone to play because he fucked people up in fighting games
>Yea Forums is still shit at smash
Goddamn

club sandwiches have vegetables in them
if you order a club sandwich and there's no vegetables you've been scammed

When people say eat veggies they usually mean peas and carrots, no one really minds lettuce and some tomato.

Recognize any of these in your favorite FGs or smash?

Fatal Fury was the first to introduce some sort of dodge mechanic with it's plane shifting (jumping between foreground/background), it also introduced crouch walking, and 2v1 in fighting games (dramatic battles in street fighter) and iirc certain cancel mechanics in one of the spin-offs that would be used in later KoF titles. The first character to crossover between fighting games was Ryo Sakazaki from Art of fighting as a secret boss in Fatal Fury Special.

Art of fighting (same timeline just ~10 years earlier), introduced super meter, super moves, zoomed in the camera while also zooming it way out, visible damage in fighting games as well as clothes tearing. DBZ is famous for characters charging heir Ki/spirit in order to do special moves, Art of Fighting first implemented something like that in fighting games. In that series if you time a pinch/kick just right you can also cancel projectiles (don't know if you want to cancel that as parrying).

The Samurai Shodown series introduced crawling/pretty much lying on the ground to avoid attacks (different than being knocked down) in Fighting games, rolling, it introduced sword clashes & parrying, it also introduced several types of jumps. I'm not 100% sure if it was the first, but the game also had items, some which would replenish/reduce health.

The king of fighters (Terry is in every main game) took several of the mechanics from these games and at one point or another incorporated them in addition to becoming the first 3v3 crossover fighting game, which smash takes after.

Forgot to mention SNK also did some interesting things before the neo geo days. In Ozma Wars an energy system was first introduced in vidya instead of just one hit kills, in either the game Vanguard or Fantasy (both released in 1981, but exact dates unknown) continues were introduced, they even stuck in an explanation of what continues allowed the player to do.

Reminder that an embarrassing amount of people on Yea Forums thought that a side character from Samurai Shodown, a CERO-nightmare titty ninja, and Cartoon Contra were more likely to get into Smash than the character who is the foremost fucking mascot of SNK and originator of two influential fighting series.

Even more embarrassing is how you faggots actually thought "LE EPIC HAT KEN" was an actual argument or true.

Who do you mean by Cartoon Contra

I think he means Metal Slug characters.

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Okay got it, thanks.

I'm glad that Terry got in and he's actually my favorite, but to be fair, historically speaking, SNK has treated Nakoruru very well and has given her near as much mascot status as Terry. Even he Terry and Nakoruru club was a thing. If anyone was to represent SNK no one fits the bill quite as much as him. No need to shit on the others as they were pretty influential on their own. Even Mai despite her being really irritable more recently as she's like the progenitor of tiddy ninjas and most of the people who waifu her don't look at her past babby's first pair of tits. No need to shit on Meal Slug either, not many shooters hold a candle to them.

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>Mai didn't even appear in Terry's reveal
>yet Andy, Joe, and Geese did
Holy fuck I sure am glad I'm not that KasuMaifag who kept using honest to god metrics for porn searches as an argument against Terry's odds. Not only did Terry get in but his reveal full of KoFverse fanservice totally fucking iced Mai despite her being oh so iconic.

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For those who want to know who the fuck Terry is:

If you want the story watch this, it is an official overview
youtube.com/watch?v=o8YJdarcikg

For games to play
>Fatal Fury
Similar to SF1, a fighter but more like a boss rush
>Fatal Fury Special
Update of 2, one of the more popular entries
>Real Bout Special/2
Slightly different take on the formula
>Garou MotW
A more standard fighter but it has a lot of mechanics

Also check out KoF 98,2002, XI, XIII, XIV and SNK Heroines. For match footage Mikado Arcade are pretty good for all old games
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I'm not shitting on those characters. I'm shitting on just how absolutely fucking brain damaged rosterbabies on Yea Forums got over discussion of SNK possibly getting into Smash. Like, I thought the anti-Banjo fagging was a new low of retardation, but holy fuck did the anti-Terry fagging take the cake despite not having the same months-long rosterfagging "lore" surrounding him that Banjo had.

Dont care
If these games played anything like smash I might but I tried them and they play like SHIT. I wish I could go back to when i didnt even know about this gay series

Sakurai would have just gotten the inspiration elsewhere

Honestly can't wait for him to demo Terry and talk about how surreal that whole situation is.

What I'm looking forward to (but also dreading) is the music situation. Being DLC, there's no fucking way FF/KoF will get the musical treatment it deserves. My guess is that we won't get new music from games made after Garou or KoF98 (a shame if so since KD-0079 and My Dear Falling Angel would just be absolutely orgasmic to have in Smash).

on the other hand, seeing everyone react to her dumb ass missing the invite like the birdfag would have been absolutely hilarious

No doubt. But oh man, I forgot just what an accidentally explicit "fuck you" that Botasufags got with Nakoruru missing the invite.

rbff2 and garou kick the shit out of every smash game

I should add, the pre-Direct rosterfagging speculation was bad enough, but the massive apoplectic shitfit that American Smashfags collectively threw over Terry after his reveal was top-tier autism. Never did I see Smashfags lash oute like such entitled crybaby apes.

Oh, I get you now. Yeah, I agree it and the lengths some people went to was absolutely fucking braindead.

>the mai poster
>his defense for her cero hell in a handbasket fodder was bayonetta and probably zero suit samus
it's even more hilarious that even today, people are still insisting that terry can have her girl alt from snk heroines without censorship simply because zss' alt exists and that's apparently to them on the same level
furthermore sakurai's logic of having lucina not an alt of marth was "different stature" which is an issue with the smaller limbed girl terry
why are nintendo fans so fucking retarded

Well not Terru hinself but more so his franchises since it sounds like sakurai mained Ryo

your seethe is showing reimufag

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I sincerely doubt he ever said this was the whole reason, stop grasping at straws.

to play devil's advocate, smash wasn't originally going to be a crossover game, but the testers just liked playing as the Link and Mario placeholders more than they liked playing as the original characters

Must hurt Iorifags to be below a fucking Ryu clone.

Do we know what the original characters were? Or any concept art of them?

tcrf.net/Prerelease:Super_Smash_Bros.

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Imagine being a video game youtuber or streamer and revealing how little you really know about video games by showing that you don't know who Terry fucking Bogard is. This was like Richter part 2, it was fucking great.

user, he's a wandering hobo that takes odd jobs (hence no stable job or home) and blows all his money at the pao pao cafe and who knows what else. In that regard he's an example of do as I say, not as I do.

Sometimes I wonder if smash players today are really young and I'm just getting old. Then again I'm not that old, I'm about as old as Terry's game and still know the shit mentioned in this thread about him and SNK.

What made the Richter bombshell so amazing, however, was that for CV fans he was only the second thing that exposed posers. What nobody talks about is one subtle little moment before him: almost everyone who remarked on Simon spinning his whip thought it was just Sheik's Melee whip and failed to recognize it as being from SCV4.

Terry's reveal didn't quite stack up in that regard, although he absolutely shat on rosterfags on Yea Forums who clearly had no idea how much his significance dwarfed every other SNK candidate being tossed around. He just outright exposed people as being uncultured casuals rather than catching people in lying about their knowledge like Castlevania did.

Except me because I don't really like tomatoes unless they're in condiment or sauce form.

Hat Ken

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Why? Why wouldnt it have good music rep?

While Terry represents Fatal fury, his stage represents The king of fighters as a whole and even has cameos of other Kof characters outside FF like Ryo (Art of fighting)

Now, if his stage was the train over Mt. Rushmore from FF2 or similar then yeah, you would have a point, but its clear Terry represents more than FF, and im sure his music will also reflect that.

The only thing it upsets me is how this clearly kills every single other SNK candidate in one fell swoop, the trailer showed Geese, Andy, Joe, Ryo, Kyo, Iori, and even Nako, all of them perfectly valid candidates, not getting the invitation. by doing that, Sakurai is clearly saying 'Sorry, these characters will never, EVER be in smash'.

Im not saying i hate Terry, far from it, but, did Sakurai really need to hurt people THAT hard?

I'm worried that the music quantity will be too limited. I feel like the Castlevania treatment is the only way to do justice to the SNKverse's music. There's just far too much good shit.

Also you're being a giant pussy and taking a comical character reveal trailer way too seriously.

Except its true, theres no way Sakurai did that trailer like that for no reason, not to mention is almost assured all those characters will be the cameos on Terry's stage, even more, its more than sure that the characters will appear as Terry's DLC spirits.

Even if Sakurai puts another SNK rep in FP2, it wont be any of them.

I'm guessing based on this that Captain Falcon and his weird moveset were taken from whoever the main character of this game would've been.

Falcon's Moveset was inspired by Kamen Rider, one of the most popular japanese superheroes. Why do you think Falcon goes around yelling 'FALCON PUNCH!' Or 'FALCON KICK!' Whenever he does those attacks?

youtu.be/wFW26OSr1oE

Hell, He or falcon could call an attack 'FALCON HOPSCOTCH' and still make it a deadly technique.