Sengoku Rance

Where’s the free link?

Can you get Seigan in the first playthrough?

Depends on whether you can stomach some dumb translation choices. If that's your first rance game, at least you wouldn't be bothered by terminology change.

what's the point of spending satisfaction upgrades on maeda and katsuie?

Yes. Just keep the Tenshi sect around until you defeat Xavier the first time.

If I already did every route in the old fan translation is there anything special about the official release?

because they're cool. they get outclassed by other characters so no actual point.

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What about in the 2nd?

>playing the Ran route

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Normally it's hard to raise stats above 6, as attack/def etc. 2 books are rare and upgrading stats normally increase unit's cost. So if you get their stats to 6 before upgrading with sat bonuses, you will get early game units with 8-9 stats.

oh boy oh boy

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nope, just a retranslation and uncensored CG, for better or worse

When I googled I found the IGG games torrent for the old translation and the link to the new version was in the comments. It has since been removed though.

Requirement: You cannot defeat Tenshiism before entering a route. Keep them alive until you fight Xavier the first time(or enter a route, if not 1st game).

Same deal, but I think you can only recruit him on the True route.

how better or worse is the official compared to the fan translation?

Probably should've done some dungeons.

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>lv98 Oda
>lv48 Rance
Good luck.

I just ended up getting my first clear game and now starting over.
Seeing as how I selected a Samurai Unit with those points, will I still have those 5 point when I start over again? Also what's different about NG+? I noticed right away I was able to get that one Oil Field girl as a Commander instead of fucking her, what other differences are there?

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The Game Progress Report has icons now, instead of a wall of text. It also contains Demon King Miki as a route, which I believe was not there before.

It's just different. JAPAN is Nippon now, Tenshi Sect is Tenshiism, changes like that. Character names have also been changed to match the official names(Uruza is now Urza, like in Rance 6).

I think the best thing is the game being ready to play, no more worries about Japanese Locale. And the Game Progress Report is much more easy to look at, too. And the size of smaller, don't know why.

>chad Oda Nobunaga vs virgin rance

You cannot lose and are stuck in the original history in first games. There are some minor changes too, such as being able to take Akihime from Hara and make her a commander, Takeda doesn't take over Uesugi/Houjou if you take the other one, and a lot more options become available. First games are a tutorial.

>Try playing Rance for the first time
>Not sure what I'm doing but I seem to be making good progress, not losing any fights
>Suddenly get fucked over by the demons
>Ask my friends who have played what I did wrong
>Apparently there was a bunch of random arbitrary shit I should have done to get extra turns so I got more stuff done before the demons appeared
>Not only that but there's more random arbitrary shit I should have done to recruit stronger characters into my army that I've never even heard of

I don't understand why people say Sengoku Rance is a good game.

Its not fair. I saw 1 cutscene of Okita and the hannies then they never showed up again. Never got any option to recruit her.

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I recall if you take over the tenshii tect they will declare independence later. But I am at war with them for 20-30 turns and they keep on sending child soldiers to attack me.

IIRC the way points work is that the highest amount you get is permanent, unless you get more. I.e. the 5 points will be there for every new game, if you get 40 points on your second run, you'll have 40 points from a third run on unless you get more.
I could be wrong, but that's my recollection of how points work.
Also there are several events exclusive to the first playthrough, and several are exclusive to a 2nd+ playthrough. Some things that happened on a first run will never happen again. Like the game taking pity on you if you get wrecked by the demons in the true route.

Senhime - should I use her as a samurai? Rather than a foot soldier?

And I probably should aim for as many magical characters as possible due to increased damage to demons?

How do I fight Houjo and Usegi at the same time? I don't have enough commanders to tank their attacks.

Want to declare war on Takeda and stop the blitz, does this look good enough or should I bully one-eye first and increase troop count?

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you know rance is a porn game

She's so Moe

Holy fuck how?

5 points from first game are permanent addition, you get 5 for every route. Your highest score is added on top of it.

Can the Shimazu Brothers even be instakilled? I've tried it so many times with Yamamoto's arrows and the gun girl and even Suzume and none of them have worked

Does levels actually affect attack or defence?

>he doesn't know
user... uniques can't be hit by insta kills

Masaka...

>lvl 47 Rance
Nigga what are you doing, did you even release prisoners in sets of 5? No dungeons? Good luck bro

Yes

you can beat it without any of those things.

So.. I won't have that "ALMOST ALL OF JAPAN IS TAKEN OVERNIGHT"?
Whew boy.
Well I planned on being more aggressive this run and already took over Mala in sub 10 turns, so I guess the name of the game is to cover as much ground as possible.

Is she any good of a commander? Other than being moe?

Levels are almost all that matters in non-troop fights. Likewise Levels dont really matter at all in troop fights.

Thanks user. Time to grind dungeons.

I find dungeons extremely boring to do, i only did it twice
I've been at it for hours it feel like i need perfect rng to win

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Mediocre commander but good in dungeons

What do I want in Hojou? Should I just let the mongolians take it over?

Without a guide and/or trial and error?

fuck
so those niggers are invincible then basically
because no fucking way i'm killing them normally

it's not like you fucking need to completely destroy the demon army anyways, just bumrush west to the bridge. I think in some of the IF routes you don't even need to destroy the demon army

Good to know. Thanks.

Dungeon scout on your ninja. They don't serve any other goal in life.

When the hannies pass through Owari, donot attack them. Doing that makes it impossible to get her.

She's an average commander but her unit is very strong in individual combat.

If you don't know already, you can let them take a part of a territory you own as long as you don''t lose the entire territory. If they're trying to reclaim a territory they own, do your best to survive to keep your progress. Reload (or not) as you feel necessary.
Aside from that, I don't recall any other good advice.

the demon army is only strong the first few turns to prevent you from insta winning. After that they're pretty managable and even if you suck shit the game gives you a pity win and fastfowards you to the final battle.

You could also just let Kentarou fight that Demon who keeps showing up.

True. Do I just need to take over only the bridge area? Huh. Always assumed I needed Africa as well.

In my first playthorugh I didn't conquer shit and then the demons came, killed everyone and had me surrounded, I was like, what the fuck is this? but the game eventually clears all the regions for you so you only have to defeat the demons at the west

he's just broke. the takeda bros are all strong but this dude is just funky.

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I always try to get glasses guy, he is a very good unit and has great stats on almost every skill combat or otherwise, if that doesn't sound appealing then don't bother

Where should I go from here? Just found Kou and had "that scene" happen.

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Oh shit are you fucking serious, clearly I just gave up way too fast.

What the FUCK

I think you might need to hit the southernmost province as well to seal the soulbinder

Go back to turn 1
You have 5 turns tops before nothin personnel
Never gonna make it

you "go" to honnoji. After that kill Tokugawa for Senhime.

it's been a long time since i played the game but i think i equipped him with a certain item too. certain characters are just total memes.

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If I was in your spot I would get the Tanukies/Hannies for Senhime and some easy national power then start heading west

While that's the best way to ensure your units survive, as they add a bonus per kill, know that there are times where your goal should be to just get the team bar over half, rather than focusing on killing them. Especially on higher difficulties.

Has anyone uploaded the new patched version that supposedly fixes things like the left side freezing bug?

I've been hearing a lot about battle permits but where do you actually get them?
The wiki doesn't say much in that regard

I let them pass, Then i got 1 cutscene of her and the hannies in kyo. But I never got any scenes after that or a recruit option.

Thanks. Will leave it for the 2nd run through.

where the alicesoft lolies at?

Is it better to leave the Ashikaga alone? They have a demon container so I should leave them to the end right?

On first run you get them along the story and lose later in the story. On ng+ you can get them with bonus points, as some routs don't have permits at all.

>he doesnt know

After a few turns you should get an option to go get food in Kyo. Do that and you'll recruit her.

There should be an option about investigating the Shinsegumi somewhere around, you get the option to recruit her after that

For Senhime, does dungeon fight count towards a fight every 3 turns condition for her?

Kentarou is a fucking faggot

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no. They'll declare war on you eventually, plus Isoroku is a decent enough unit and the 2 provinces really lets you get the ball rolling and gives the position to strike any direction.

The fish guy? Naw dude they will continue to ask for reparations better deal with them asap

the fucking game gave me the permits 5 turns before the demon army spawned, fucking trolled me

You want to conquer them because their in the way to two of the best houses (Yamatai and Usegi) that are very easy to conquer.

You have to go to war with them anyway if you want to go the other way around and recruit Sounn instead.

>Fantranslation saves are compatible.
fuck is this true? my saves are stuck on my old computer though that doesn't turn on for some reason.

Keep in mind it only occurs on a first playthrough, but the first playthrough is really to make you familiar with the combat, and which units are great for a 2nd+ run and the different routes.
The first run should also teach you that dungeons are annoying, but will make your life easier if you do just a few of them. IIRC they're also how you primarily get the textbooks to raise stats.

don't talk shit about the ultimate shield

>just barely defeat nobunaga using my last action on my last character
>the bodyguard is still alive so it counts as a loss
fucking bullshit

Ahhh my bad, I mean the Yukihime nation.

Having to babysit Miki while demons are up your ass in gigai's case literally is the only thing holding the game from being a masterpiece desu.

That was annoying but I found that it unfucks itself if I just try to open the task manage and wait.

Yes, I confirmed it myself. I copy pasted them and it worked with no issues. Had half of the Game Progress report, too.

I think someone said that using an old save keeps the old Name Order but that I cannot say, for I started a new game.

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Kenshin is way too pretty. It is hard for others to compete.

Texas? Yeah just leave em alone till the end they don't do shit

Someone please a save file ready for new game+

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Yeah that's the one. Thanks!

Is Maria worth getting another ninja for?

I like to always clear Yoshikage because, when you do, he instantly does a +1 to the national power of all your provinces. It's a huge boost in income.

Do you guys ever do actions like Increase Preparation, Sabotage and Increase National Power? I like to keep my provinces at 6 NP at least and use Sabotage when I REALLY want to prevent an attack, but I never really cared for preparation.

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Ah fuck guys.

Here we go again.

Let's try that Demon King Miki route.

>just learned about oni bones and cup/scroll farming
this is so useful but absolutely spirit crushing

galaxy brain strat: conquer Houjou as early as possible, give Daidouji the popularity staff, pump her stats a bunch, proceed through game as usual
40 turns later she now has one billion soldiers.

I thought preparation is essential when you tried but can't beat the last castle for any nation?

is there a way to just import my clear data with my high score and unlocks? I was stuck in the last route I was playing and was going to have to start over anyway.

What does int do? Attack/def/speed are obvious but is it just for caster units even if they shoot arrows?

rance series
>women design
I sleep
>monster design
Real shit

and you gotta do that first fight all over again too, damn
but why wouldn't you kill his two bodyguards at the beggining? they're quite easy compared to him

>kou sees Rance as a brother
>but also can't wait until he returns to make her a woman
uhhhh, isn't incest, broskis?

Her soldiers seem ineffective when I fought her.

Make sure you save up enough oni bones to buy 3+ items at a time from the shop.

after getting gangraped at such a young age you start having weird fantasies

Tell me if this works.

files.catbox.moe/7gxege.rar

I always make do without it.

Just start a new game?

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Magic units bonus power, int also scales with guard so the more int you have the more guard your footsoldiers will build. Overall the least useful stat unless you're a mage which are so few as part of your roster.

For mages, yes. Pretty sure it also impacts how much guard a shield unit gets per point, as well as how many buffs a tactician gets upon tnering battle.

It acts as magic atk and def generally.

For foot soldiers, it boosts their guard amount.

For tacticians it boosts the bonuses and amount of them for their stat boosts.

Int is for getting more guard, more magic damage and tacticians giving more buffs.

It works, thank you so much user

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So do the enemies. Also her stats are mediocre. Much more useful to a tactician so they can get closer to 900-1k-1200 for more buffs/permit use.

Yeah. Kanami is good for scouting if nothing else.

How much longer is 6 after the demon invasion?
Really wish this game had a clock or something so I can see how much time I blew on it

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What is it about Daidouji that you like? She's not particularly good. I would rather put my Pop Staff on something like a Musket unit or a Magic unit.

You'll have to deal with my Game Clear Report but have fun.

If you're on NG+ and took extra characters maria eventually gives Shizuka as well

you're almost there but there is also a very good amount of post game content afterwards

Gonna do the Miki route. Should I just get prepared to have my ass handed to me?

I never went down that route but it's unwinnable, from what I read. You absolutely must cheese everything and the final scene is a game over.

You can get her on turn 1 with diviner house bonus. She gets plenty of free troops but still feels weaker than good warriors.

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i have a thing for explicitly slutty idols and another thing for blonde twintails. really i just like that with enough books you can make almost any character good.

So I'm not up to date on the status of Rance translations. I assume they're gonna keep going after VII if they keep translating them at all, but what about 03? I thought I heard it was getting done a couple of years ago but I dunno if that was true or not.

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Delay Honnoji and enjoy a smooth ride through the Demon Army and relationships.

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All the new ones are announced for translation

I forgot how fucking addicting this game is.

protips:
stats are more important than troop size
only level matters in dungeon battles
units with generic portraits are all shit and not worth using
enemy army sizes scale with yours except for foot soldiers
reduce units you only use for negotiation and stuff down to 1/1 to save money
the pandafucker's dad gives +1 national power to every territory you control when you clear him
always be at war
don't vassalize anyone except the monks
don't attack the monks or the ninjas
if you run out of units you don't actually have to defend a territory as long as it's not the last castle you would be losing
don't neglect raising your levels
releasing prisoners in groups of 5 gives you an item that raises happiness

Rance I-VII along with 4.1, 4.2, and Kichikuou are all translated.

Rance 01, Quest, IX, and X are in progress to getting official translations with Quest likely coming out next year. Only 03 doesn't have an announcement yet, and it will likely get one at some point.

Why is my Ranmaru losing max troops? I thought it was the items but I took it off and its still taking (seemingly random) amounts of troops from her. We are just in the beginning attack normal people, no demons/zombies

>Rance doesn't want to get girls pregnant
unbased, does not fit my conqueror agenda

I mean is there a way to only import my clear data and not have to worry about if one save slot will overwrite another one? I'm thinking about replaying true history now and then trying to get my old files when I can fix my other computer.

Thanks for being honest and confessing that your dick chose her. She's a terrible woman, the only fate she deserves is that event where Rance fucks her in front of her fans, then pretends he's going to let them gangbang them, just before adding him to his harem.

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I saw a general beginners guide post in an earlier thread, but now I can't find it in the archive. Can anyone post any important tips for a beginner? Are you supposed to just completely wing this first playthrough and how do subsequent playthroughs work?

>don't vassalize anyone except the monks
por que

>there's a real ending to Rance
what, does he lose his hyper weapon or something

worse

>nobunaga proceeds to one shot both rance and kentarou, one after another

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>releasing prisoners in groups of 5 gives you an item that raises happiness
It gives you an item that raises your level, not happiness.

I don't know, move the files out of the folder and check what happens.

The only way I know to lose max troops is Soul Binder attacks.

Play the first one blind. Just follow this for an easier time.

Did they add anything new to the official version?

I mean throughout the series he's pretty young and just wants to travel the world fucking everything he can. If it wasn't for Sill's magic contraceptive he'd have hundreds of kids running around. This only changes much later on and by the end of the series he's fine with having kids and has an army of them.

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He dies peacefully of old age with Sill by his side.

He has kids throughout the games. He just doesn't want to bind girls to his kids.

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so he has children with every girl in X? makes me want to play it desu

>stats are more important than troop size
Troop size is important too. For the full effect you want to invest in both, especially for Yamamoto or whatever her name is.

for units:

footsoldiers - the most important unit but there's only a few really good ones. try to have at least 1 for every action fan you have + one or two more.
warriors/samurai - pretty much a filler unit. you get a lot of them but except for kenshin none of them are that great.
monks - like warriors but with more useful abilities except there's only like 3 that are actually good so they end up being worse overall.
archers - complete trash except for isoroku
mikos - also worthless except for natori who is godly
ninjas - better than archers but you don't need too many
tacticians - same as ninjas basically
diviners/onmyoji - they have some useful abilities but there's only like 2 good ones and they're hard to get
muskets - only yuzumi and the guy you can only get in ffa mode are good

You know you can use more than the 6 characters you chose to go into the dungeon right? Just hover over one of the characters and chose retreat. There should be no RNG involved unless you barely have any commanders.

No, we don't know who all those children belong to. Probably a combination of women we know, Sill and other random women he fucked. He certainly didn't fuck every girl in X though.

I heard in these threads before that there's an "auto-win" event
when's that? getting real tired of the monster army's shit rn

There is no shame in cheating during post game, some of the content there is bullshit and the gal monster hunt is annoying.

>fight against Nanjou Ran for the first time
>she one shots all my non-magic immune units
What the fuck.

People really fucking fixate on the one scene in the very beginning where Kou says broski, they're ignoring the actual problems like demon being translated to fiend and monster. Like what the fuck? Why? Were they afraid of offending Christians in a game about raping and conquering? I want a patch that fixes that.

>archers - complete trash except for isoroku
Archers have some pretty great abilities.

How far along are you in terms of Monster Army events? Because at some point the game just hands you victory and gives you all the territory on the map that the monster army owns minus their main bases in the southwest. From that point you just focus your forces in that area.

Lots of jap games use fiend instead of demon.

zombie guys, gigai, that's what i remember, not completely sure what was the last one

because demons are a different thing in ranceworld
there's demons/devils and then there's monsters and then there's majin

How long does this guy hold up? I'm in mid game of my second playthrough and he's still absolutely wrecking shit. I'm guessing he'll fall off pretty soon.

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Why did this retard Kazuhisa run off to die against Xavier instead of just joining Rance so he could be with Kurohime?

He has 100 kids in his lifetime. 20 of them are from his fated girls + 1 from Crook who is probably not fated. The official word is that their moms are whoever you want unless they were explicitly denied/definitely moved on like Yuzuhara

Guys I need to know why everyone who posts a screen is not conquering Iga. Are you supposed to let them live?

>want to fuck her
>go to the wiki to see what I'm doing wrong because nothing ever happens
>turns out she's one of the handful of girls that rance never gets to fuck in the entire series
JUST

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FUCK space aliens

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They have a gourd and when 5 gourds break Xavier assumes control. 10-12 turns later the monster army shows up. By ignoring Iga you can delay this. They have no girls or good commanders so you lose nothing of value by just never attacking them

>unless they were explicitly denied/definitely moved on like Yuzuhara
say it ain't so

what happens to the moms anyway?

No units to capture and barely any Nat power. Not worth sacrificing a gourd for

it's a bit meta. Iga have a gourd but you don't get any good units from conquering them so people leave them be until after honnoji.

oh shit really
should've dropped her way earlier then

Yuzuhara has a meal ticket event where she says if Rance doesn't impregnate her soon she's going to move on to another guy who will give her a kid instead. He fucks her, but with contraception magic on again.

Nothing bad happens to the moms, they just have their kids love them and Rance drops by from time to time when he isn't adventuring like the semi-deadbeat dad/husband he is

>based straight up game
>played the game a few times so the story is lame to me already
is there any new campaigns or sequels. I want more content desu.

Not with the same gameplay style, no
You can download the FFA mod though Darkness Hero Rance

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WHY DOES THE DEMON ARMY GET 5(FIVE) CONSECUTIVE TURNS TO ATTACK ME, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH RETAINERS FOR THIS BULLSHIT

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>turn 198

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where i download this?, i should search for the official release or the old one?

just let em take something, they don't do the cheating barrage ever again

No he's right, there's not a single Archer that's good. Isoroku is good but you can do even without her.

It's tacticians you want. Specially if they've got the skill that moves the bar directly.

You don't have to defend every single point. Learn to cut some loses. Also that initial blitz that those faggot brothers do is a one time thing.

official, overall a better translation despite some wacky localization bullshit
it's been posted in these threads a couple times
probably can find it in the b4k archive

He keeps wrecking all the way to the late game, I had him until the end of my 5* run.

Great, does that mean I can conquer the entire east side before charging through the west then?

What's is it, user?

literal slut

>turn 198
>he only just got attacked by the blitz

What the FUCK user. I've never seen someone take it so slow before. How many days have you been playing?

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>did the requirements to recruit him
>joined like 12 turns later when I completely forgot about him
Could have used you sooner you fat fucking tanuki.

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No she's not. In fact she's so dedicated to the man she loves even Rance backs off because he's scared of her tenacity after she basically tricks Shibata into marrying her.

About three not for very long, since release which was 19th September.

How do people even go this long? I'm only on turn 34 and both Iga and Kenshin declared war on me.

>about three
>not for very long

Beating the game requires like 80 to 90 turns. I am surprised you haven't dropped it yet. Just keep playing, you're nearly finished. You cannot lose the first game.

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Just finished my first run, what do I spend my whole NINE points on?

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Well, you can now get an achievement for the DK route.

Whomst /agireda/ here?

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Pop staff and either permits or Elina.

He knew no one likes the shimazu brothers so in an attempt to redeem himself he offed himself in order to occupy less scenes

jesus FUCK i am never going to be able to take any fucking territory
literally how
jesus christ i hate these fucking brothers and their stupid nigress whore

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>not the semen demon of bantz

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>Turn 198
Ok user is taking his time to character clear, nothing wrong with tha-
> 143 SAT
You fucked up bigtime

There would be no enjoyment on my end if I didn't get to know the sluts I rape better. It would basically amount to booting up any other porn game looking for a quick fap. I wanted to take my time to read just about everyone's dialogue that was available while I kept stalling the Honnoji Temple raid.

>You cannot lose the first game
Fug, that's not very fun then. One of the reasons for stalling was for naught then.

Uruza/kenshin/9 defense footsoldier
You got this

Permits or a character. Try getting a 50 score so you can get enough stuff to got for a very good score. My last 5* game I got 150 and I didn't even choose to bring permits.

Slut

The arquebus unit is the strongest, y'know?

TOSH

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someone can post the download link for the official? if not how i search in the old threads?

I bet your small dick units must have like 700 units or so, right?

Based

Just turtle and capture Agireda when you have the chance
Eventually the Shimazus fuck off

Should I do my second run on 1* or do I need good bonuses for that?

Ranceko a cute.

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Go with 2* and finish as fast as you can. You goal is to get a 30-50 score. With that much, you can go for a 5* game like in the OP.

1* should be fine if you aren't braindead, or alternatively just use the wiki to look everything up and you can't go wrong.

Filthy used good slut

Google sengoku rance mangagamer, it's literally the first link.

ahem
Leila is shit

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>Get h scene.
>Hold skip.

Stop wasting my time you fucking hoes.

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There's plenty of entertaining ero scenes in rance, just not in the erotic way.

I know but sometimes you just want keep playing rather than watch someone fuck.

is it weird that i skip the sex scenes? they just feel like kind of a chore to read most of the time. a few exceptions, just mostly boring and i'd rather get on with the game

>usually don't care for sword autists
>love senhime
What de fug bros

Not really, I feel like the h-scenes in the Rance series in general are pretty bad

they're more funny if anything

>Rance is completely over
>the setting will never get used again
REEEEEEE just make a new series where Gele comes back
Or a new toushin toshi

i was asking for the pirate version

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Playing Sengoku Rance just makes me want to play X more, maybe I'm just weird
I just love opening chests and making teams out of my favorites/stupid enabling combos for the broken or gimmicky cards more than mashing my face against thousands of footsoldiers in SR

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I really wanted the knock the mouri bonus out on my first run rather than deal with it later. Took a bit longer than expected with capture rng.

Never could fap to Rance scenes, too busy laughing.

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I don't really like the RNG factor of X though. Like if you don't get certain cards you're going to have a bad time with certain fights.

Enjoy it while it lasts, by X she's mommy tier caretaker for the babies instead of on the frontlines

HOW

Anybody try plugging DARKNESSHERO Rance into the official translated game?

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He kept coming back and taking his land and then declaring war on me. I just vassal'd him

is there a translation for X?

How do I actually download the official release?

What's the lore reason behind this spoiler? Why these two specifically?

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www.mangagamer.com

I played the fan translation awhile back, easy to do multiple wars if you know what to do. Definitely forgot some things and should've been at this point a bit sooner though.

They like popcorn

yeah, 3 years from now maybe

I haven't tried it but I can tell you that it wont work.

Check vg thread, they should have link in op.

they both fucking explode i.e. pop

Because they pop, literally

I always found Hara pretty usefull with his volley.

>only 3
X is fucking huge, I wouldnt expect a translation in like 5 years

>can't kill prisoners
fuck uniting nippon, my conquest shall be bathed in blood

No I meant why them
that other one used a generic with no sprite

It's at 24% already, within 3 years it should be done

>using archers
>ever
I only had Isoroku and Niwa for my entire run, and Niwa had to go after I got better characters.

>Like if you don't get certain cards you're going to have a bad time with certain fights.
Most of the best ones are guaranteed though
I agree that if you don't get good light units by the time you go save Hornet or something that can suck but Kentarou and the 0AP crew are guaranteed drops

Sounn literally says it in an event. The apostles needed to be sealed and the only location strong enough was in the sealers own bodies and they pass the sealing down to their children

>why not this ugly dude
Are you a literal faggot?

when exactly do the shimazu brothers fuck off
i can't do shit until they do

Link to the updated, translated game?

Did Soul Binder wake up yet? It's a few turns after that

>wants cute girls to die to spare ugly dudes
Are you sure you're not the faggot?

man the ancient JAPANese sucked fucking ass if they couldn't even kill fucking apostles

yeah they awoke a while ago
not sure exactly which turn
the big asshole with the weird face just killed a kid in the former takeda-houjou area if that's any indicator

You should be close
You'll know they're gone when the eldest brother goes to talk to Xavier about killing Rance

>Sengoku fun because of gameplay and light-hearted story about a guy going around raping women and who always wins in the end
>rest of Rance series as fun except VI

Sad. VI and VII will be the high point of the series now that it's finished.

To be fair Suzaku is overpowered and just revives.

what

This is my favorite unit now

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Oh yikes, that font is hideous.

Grand story like Kichikuou, 3, 9 or X is good in its own way. And I wouldn't call Sengoku past first 15 turns exactly a lighthearted story.

Agireda, Teru, Kiku, Chinu, Sen, Kenshin, Suzume (RIP), Isoroku

These are the only good Sengoku girls. Fight me.

I meant that the rest of the Rance series is not as good or as fun as VI and VII.

Moe!! Coughing blood is moe!!

it looks fine
in fact, it's a completely normal and inoffensive font
imagine being so attached to a fucking fan translation that you look at a normal font and think it looks like shit

Well that's wrong. But whatever.

i remember getting that event with her and the hannies a couple years ago in my first playthrough, but it never happened in this one
what triggers it? do you have to take on the tanukis early?

did you let the hannies pass through your territory

03 and IX and X are better than VI.

The font is disgusting. Deal with it.

i never got the option
and i didn't even fight the hannies until after the demons showed up
maybe it just got skipped over because other events were higher priority

Magnum is better than VI
Better stamina system and no orbs automatically makes it more fun

Gameplaywise, anything is better than VI, even 5D.

>hating on fontworks fonts
Shit taste

I thouht 5D was random RNG bullshit and that's why everyone and their mother recommended people to skip them

True. You still have to slog through the pre-magnum content though.

You've never reached true what would Rance do levels until you play X and have to choose between actually good male units or female commander units in your rare treasure chests

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I wish they didn't retcon this in X, these scenes were great.

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Shit opinion.
>not able to do orb run blindly on gamepad
weak

Real man doesn't give a fuck about meta. Rick should be nerfed.

>that green haired maid
didn't she fucking exploded in sengoku?

I did, and I loved the game, but hated that mechanic. It's very obnoxious in the early game, though you can abuse it when you are able to instaclear the beginner forest.

I always found fated girl kanami more useful than rick.
What a world.

Kanami is CUTE and USEFUL

she got better.

I like nu-Mary and I'm glad her and Lei can be happy together

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This was my run at turn 81, last time I played was 5 years ago or whenever the fan translation was.

The biggest game changer for me is that
1. Operation permits
2. Realizing that you can lose as many bases as you want but only the last base matters.
3. Starting multiple wars and being super efficient with your fans
4. Knowing the op units, or at least some of them

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oops meant for

but looks exactly the same

Gadzooks

They put her back together again unironically. She's mostly the same except her eyeball falls out sometimes because she's basically a zombie

Most nits in X have multiple cards and sometimes they use art from previous games like SR, KR, VI, 03, etc. + one naked variant for every female character

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Does X give you the option to let him live?

Don't neglect doing dungeons. Not only levels important but most of them give some really good shit and it only costs 1 fan. Oni bones will give you some pretty game breaking stuff from the shop also. I just did the seashell dungeon and walked away hella satisfied.

yes
its the canon option as well

T-they also revive ran right?

Yes.
Canonically he joined Rance and is the only male dark lord to survive the war

That was the plan but stuff happened

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Wtf man this guy keeps killing my commanders. Ive lost 2 already. I found out that I have to send kentarou against him but he never shows up in the fucking list of commanders to fight gigai. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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What are the other routes?

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Kenshin - Race to collect all the emperor items with specific NPCs

Isoroku - What if Kou died and Isoroku became the new main house to rule Japan route

Ran - Dude NTR LMAO (Trash)

Dungeons are good, but I don't think they're absolutely necessary for the first run. I only cleared two dungeons and did like 4 runs of that one 18 floor dungeon to try to farm sex medicine and teru's death thing. I guess I also made sure to feed Rance prisoners. You end up having to cheese Xavier by retreating Rance and Kentarou before damage comes out, but everything else should be doable even without dungeoning. I ended up with 60 points my first run so take that as you will.

Kent needs to become a demon, is Miki still missing?

Isoroku -> Some pink bitch comes to fuck shit up
Kenshin -> Tournament arc where whomever wins becomes the HONORABLU EMPEROR of JAPAN
Ran -> Something about ogres rising up and you stopping them in 1 or 2 turns max
KTM -> What if rance was racist

Miki never went missing. So far I brought her lemons and am trying to defeat the demon army to the west. Also I just noticed that I now have an option of "Find a way to defeat giggai" that I didnt have last turn. But he attacks me twice in 1 turn killing a commander each time before I even get that option. Is it just one of those times I have to sacrifice 2 people before defeating him.

does finishing ktm count as a true clear?
someone was saying in the other thread the ending is a legitimate game over

is random broski. If homo bird shows up before kentarou becomes a fiend then your fucked out of a commander.

Ran has 2 endings so the NTR can kind of be ignored.

It's not really a "route" more like sandbox mode, but it still counts as a completion as you get points from it

If you're going for a massive point run just for the challenge of it, 5 star KTM is the best way to do it. Otherwise other routes are good enough points that you should get whatever you want

Kill the Monkey and Little Princess are different. LP is just if you fuck up on the lemons or finding her in time and just an extended game over scene. KTM is a NG+ thing and usually used to clear houses since there aren't any story events to interrupt you or take over other houses.

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The fun stops here

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Sure
Legit game over is
Demon King route -> What if the player skipped every single conversation and thus forgot to search for lemons/miki

PLEASE TELL ME A WAY TO ROMANCE RANMARU

It's been ages and I have neither the suzume option to win the kachi kachi cave or the hannies in kyo.

you can't and she never appears in a future game
find a new waifu

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You can't
The best you get is a CG where you see her changing

1. become demon king
2. make her a dark lord
3. since dark lords have to follow the demon king's command, just force her to love you

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Why do people like Ranmaru? She's a bitch and not even in the cute kind of way

Not even a really good design

Most of the SR girls are pretty low tier
Unless you're super attached to her appearance I'm not sure what you would gravitate to with Ranmaru she's just a devoted retainer who loves a pedo

I lost here.

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they should have brought back this armor in X

I don't know if the Kou rape makes this game better or worse.

Would have been better if it was monsters that did it

how do operation tickets work?

I though it was cute how Yukihime became tsundere for Rance

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how do you even get yukihime, I never saw her after conquering texas

Can only do it after the first run.

you need to be on NG+. recruit her dad then get him to normal relations, then if you have some free NP you get the option to search in their province for her. She's sorta shit, only really worth recruiting so she doesn't have other houses declare war on you

Where I can get a girl that likes my lolicon ways?

I feel retarded. Where can you buy the official release? Rance links keep going to the shitty announcement page and I want to support more good shit coming in.

Now rank them according to gameplay

mangagamer.com/r18/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=1132

Mangagamer

Thanks bros.
I played it through and had fun and then forgot about it due to school.
Anything I should know not to go full retard?

wait
what?
i thought she was guaranteed to die after you conquered them

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Jesus Christ is Tourin the best tactician? He is fucking crazy good. The idol chick is pretty damn good too. Wish I picked these guys up on my first play though. Would have made things a lot easier.

takeda has the best units period

keep going

Sure, he's the best tactician
Uruza (Urza) is the better unit though, enables tons of cheese strats

She as her entire own route dude. You have to do raise her affection up and do her dungeon before the 5th gourd breaks though. It's a pretty hard time crunch.

anyone got a list of good commanders to use in-game

gotcha bitch

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What does she do?

b-but

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>not on steam
Yeah, no

Steam would never allow it

Keep. Going.

it's not on a platform at all. you don't need a fucking stupid launcher for it

Is there any reason to keep popsicle stick boy around? I recruited him but he's kinda shit.

Should I do one of the heroine route's after the true route? Or should I go for a complete kill the monkey route

High potential if you can raise his stats to six and then clear him

I remember playing this years ago and spending hours savescumming trying and get Agireda and just ended up quitting. Now this time around I got her on one of the first fucking encounters without even having that one ability.

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If you REALLY want that takeda bonus or you failed to get the one eye house bonus, go straight to KTM and farm units
Otherwise do whatever

Fuck, this board really has gotten underage hasn't it?

It's unlikely you will finish KtM fast to get extra points, but you could potentially unlock every bonus in the game to eventually buy (you need to actually get the items on the item list first and do specific events to unlock the houses)

Unlike this image though. Kentarou doesn't require an item to be a meme, he's literally immortal beyond a certain story event.

I played through this game when you were still a toddler browsing Yea Forumsabbys first board.
Why would I inconvenience myself to replay an old game? Come to steam or don't bother.

It's pretty fucking random man. I caught all the youkai girls on my first playthrough and I didn't even have the fleeing ability. Maybe MG did something good and upped the POW rate.

>enemy army sizes scale with yours except for foot soldiers
I was not aware of this. Could I get a bit of a mechanics explanation? Ty for the protips regardless user.

What would you do when you become Lia user?

If you've played it, why would you think for a second it would be on Steam? Why would you even want it on Steam? Are you dying for a censored version or something?

I THINK it scales with your army up until the point you declare war on that nation. You'll notice it all if you pay attention to the enemy intermission stuff when you end your turn.

do I take back my territory or just ignore it capture monster army places?

ignore it unless they're constantly invading the same place. you get it all back when you take down the enemy

>game is censored
>maker just adds on an optional patch

Suzuku.

central japan (from akashi/tanegashima to asai/imagawa): Isoroku, Senhime, and Yuzuhara
southern JAPAN: Shimazu and Mouri uniques
northern JAPAN: fucking everyone lol, except Komatsu

>Put yourself thru redundant additional steps just because you are a steamlet
Wew lad just pirate like everyone else

hey bro heard you were trying to play the game

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Ohh, I see what you're saying. Copy that!

forgot honda, Ieyasu too if you can be fucked to get him

>18 units
what was the goal here

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The Toradoko vs the divine caster rivalry in the Usegi conquest scene is cute as fuck.

Why is the OST so GOOD? Why is this allowed?

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the bigger your army is the bigger your enemy armies will be as well. foot soldiers don't count towards the scaling. that means you should only recruit foot soldiers and stronger than average units. you can also reduce units that are weak but you're keeping around for clear points or whatever down to 1/1 so they don't contribute to scaling.

Alicesoft is good at everything except H scenes.

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Even the basic battle music is fucking terrific.
youtube.com/watch?v=MVnexaOImaQ

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How do you feel about assassination kills only contributing the kill points and not the points from the forces?

I am afraid of declaring war on the bird riders. How fucked would I be from their ever victorious cavalry?

if they weren't making h-games they might have been as well known as some other big rpg devs now.

That's depressing. Still I'm glad someone competent has made H-games.

make save and find out

their only really dangerous units are the 4 generals, although to be fair they are really fucking dangerous.

This is the main reason I never use assassins. It's better to just build tacticians and beefy samurai with footsoldiers.

They would be fucking miserable not doing what they love
TADA is a man of passion

>80 search
How do you even that much on 5 units??

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They are getting better. Evinecle 2 had some pretty decent H in it.

You don't need to do it in one fan

It carries over into other turns. Chip away at it if you want it.

user, your as slow as kenshin. everything is a cumulative effort, if something requires 20 you can do 10 one turn then another 10 the next turn, plus the dog has events that lower the search req.

what is the dog

I hope you recruited the amazing old men. They're great at this kind of thing.

if you hear the rumor about it it only costs 60

So using Cheat engine leads to some weird things happening

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You guys DO recruit Yodogimi Age 5, right?

>everything is a cumulative effort
i have finished 2 runs and didn't know that

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did you also know that the final castle in each province has a fixed set of units?

Is rance a hero or a villain I don't get it? Sometimes he does selfless things but he also rapes and murders innocent people who annoy him without giving a shit

he's an anti-hero. he doesn't kill big bads for a sense of justice but rather because they inhibit his ability to do less bad things

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>murders innocent people
the only ones I can really think of are the messengers and even then it's not like their paragons of virtue.

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He is what he is

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I made a run years ago where I did nothing but recruit all the children possible and made the pedophile my absolute strongest unit. Some of those kids are actually pretty decent.

I love hannies bros. They're such a great joke race.

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He's a parody of Adol from Ys.

He's a "protagonist."

They're legitimately terrible beings though. I don't feel bad for killing them in dungeons and whatnot.

>tfw you wait too long

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>hey man you can not pass
>Kills

>hey man I found your missing girl
that's not it
>kills

>hey I'm an standard male
>kills

How the hell did you do that? I've been fucking with the table lv99/99 of erryone is hilarious, might try lv255/255 to see if it crashes, and I've not seen anything like that. I guess with the 'Capture Everyone' cheat on fearless, it makes sense, if that's how it's made to interact.

So I used the table to capture giant motonari and then decursed him to be able to recruit him after conquering but instead you get a copy of rance in prison instead.

Pretty fucking based user. Now I feel like doing this. Which countries have the best kid units?

What happens if I keep putting off attacking Honnoji Temple?

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>joke race
Racist

nothing, you just can't attack other countries while putting it off. If you can't beat him just grind some dungeons or take it like a bitch and let alice lower the difficulty.

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Nothing as far as I know. I always put it off a few turns to grind out some dungeons because that's always the best time to do it. Longest I've went was turn 65 though.

Sweet, I wanted to do some dungeons. I distinctly remember having a hard time before because my units were way too weak for the commander battles.

Sucks that to get 100% CG you have to let that happen to kenshin and leila later on

The only good hanny is a dead hanny

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I actually let demon army take leila in my first playthrough since I was not character clearing her anyway.

>Have to let Kenshin and Aoi die once
>have to be a complete dick and accept the peace offer
100% is suffering.

I really like this style of game, what are some others like it? I know of Dragon Force I & II, Spectral Force Genesis, and a few others that evade my memory.

Does clearing FFA give you any points?

I didnt know it could happen to Kenshin. Hell it caught me by surprise when it happened to Leila a few nights ago. She was such a good unit I couldn't even fap.

Riche is worst girl

>Turn 61
>Xavier kills Kenshi
>go back to turn 54 to to declare war one turn earlier than expected
>work my way back up to turn 61
>Xavier kills Kenshi
>go back to turn 53 to declare war even earlier than expected
>turn 60, can finally conquer kenshi's body

Rance may be a dickhead sometimes, but demons are way waaay wroste.

Rance at least rapes people for his own personal pleasure.
Demons just seem to rape in order to make the other person feel pain

It's in the game progress report, maybe it does?

most evenicle girls are worst girl to be fair

Except Kath, she is the absolute best

Any tips for a newcomer?

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Apparently you can't capture them until after you do the all-out battle event. Which happens after some turns after you've been at war with them, if they've got at least two territories left.
If you beat them too hard too fast so that they've only got one territory left then you apparently never get an option for the all-out battle. Even though I played the game a bunch 10 years ago I never knew this.

Well you get all the sisters automatically after conquering them regardless but you miss a couple of events.

No

How the FUCK am I suppose to beat a battle against three thunderstrike monsters?

Akashi iirc

Have your 8 speed maria tulip rapid fire them before they do you in

I already have those "War prep delay" options and I want to take out Houjo or Mouri but don't want to trigger takeda when I do it or Shimazu.
So will Shimazu declare war on me when I kill Mouri?
And can Takeda (or anyone really) ignore the "war prep" timer under some conditions? Or I can just keep delaying them and kill Houjo?

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AAAAAA help me Yea Forumsros, the demon army has been reduced to their 2 last provinces, but they are unbreakable in their final stronghold in the province. No matter how long I prepare nor how big my units are, I always get pushed back.

Have you tried sabotage/prep? try losing a territory to the demon army and pushing back from there after wards.

Use buff units
Summon the Satisfaction units
let 5 people out of prison at same time
Mikos are useless on normal so are ninjas (keep some ninjas for scouting and searching).
On normal you can pretty much brute force everything with enough raw power.

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Post a unit list for such queries.

If you are on the first playthrough, you only need to get to the bridge. There's really not signifigant benefits from taking their two southern territories.

>ninjas are useless on normal
not if you want to conquer takeda they arent. the power rangers are the only early units fast enough to cancel their buffs

holy shit getting agireda to come out is a pain in the ass

This portrait is full of soul.

Do the Takuga shitters learn any good skills or anything if you do their events or is the only reason to bother to acquire further satisfaction and endgame points?

I fucking love leotards

That's why you want to capture her in the first apperance.

Is Kay-chan not male?

>and they pass the sealing down to their children
T-thanks ma!
No but seriously that fucked up.

Only Gon is useful.

People talk about the strategy part of the game a whole bunch but never the dungeons. I just got my asshole pushed in by Gunagan and I consider myself pretty well leveled with a 60 Rance and 70 Kenshin and other multiple 40s and a few 50s. I'm guessing this isn't even the toughest dungeon. I see Orochi in that list.

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Yeah, but you can kill others. They're only immortal in a sense that they won't die of old age, but you don't need any magic weapons to take them down.
Like, in VI Magic went toe to toe with one of Kamilla's apostoles. And she's just one mage.

People don't talk about dungeons because they're honestly not very fun to do. There's some strategy and resource management going into them, but it becomes kind of a slog fast.
At the very least Orochi restores your actions before the fight. But yeah, even with that it's the hardest (non-army) fight in the game.
Gunagan is pretty bad too, but you can handle it fairly easily if you know what to expect.

so how does the eyeball have sex

He has a dick.

So they fucked the translation up a fair bit so it'd look different from the old patch, huh?
Why not just buy it?

Healing Mist versus Miko Dance/Wind.
I guess the biggest prop to the Miko Dance/Wind is that it only consumes one action as opposed to two. But doesn't the mist technically still heal more provided everyone are damaged?

Is it hard to craft a Hanny with real ceramics?

CRAAAAAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIIIN

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Because nobody knows where Takajun is anymore. And aside from few favourite lines the new translation is much better, so they'd be like "alright, we'll pay you so we can use the... Diviner girl line, purple dildo, and Kentarou's ninja village scene."
It'd make no sense.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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Half of these quoes aren't even in the games.

He'd show up when someone representing the group gets a check for 10 grand.

Man of taste.

I just save images nigga
If you don't like it change it

Now we wait for Rance IX and X

...We don't wait for Quest?

It sounds like a nightmare if I were trying to pay him too.
Any public post asking for him to please stand up will be flooded with fakes

it's supposed to be impossible but is actually possible if you cheese it hard. Your reward is a scene where Miki accuses you of cheating and then you get a Game Over anyway.

The gist of cheesing it is:
a: battle permits work, the game expects you not to have these anymore but if you unequipped all of them at the right time the event that takes them away will not have triggered, and it can't trigger against Miki.
b: miki is invincible and battles against her are unwinnable and will mulch every unit you put in, so scout every battle and if you see her don't bother deploying anyone

only 15 more years!

>representing the group
From 11 years ago?

I just finished the true route with a big fat zero points. Which route should I do next for easy points?

No, you track down literally anybody in the group and do the deal with them after doing enough diligence to locate the fucker. TakaJun's share of the money sits in escrow until he hears about it and emerges to collect. If he kicks up a fuss, a lot of laws to do with due diligence and his patch being illegal in the first place are backing you up.
Any patch whose translation isn't garbage should honestly be purchased and maybe lightly edited by whatever company officially releasing a VN. Not only does it save time so you can release and maybe move on to a VN that nobody has read (even patched), but you encourage groups to work in the hopes their TL makes them a few thousand someday.
Thus shit where you shuffle the translation around, futzing with nouns and adding shit like BROSKI stinks of tryhard. It's a waste of money and effort.

GHOSTS WITH GUNS
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES

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I honestly don't understand what takes these localizations so long. I understand X has one of the largest scripts in video games, but Sengoku? What took this game several years to get a translation? There is not much dialogue at all. Hell, I'm pretty sure 6 had more.

Did they really remove the Kou scenes?

the other thing is that the fortress battles are scripted to have the same units every time, which never include the demons. so you just have to use battle permits to get to the last stage, hope either they don't take back any territory or don't send a demon, and then take their land like that.
One of the few actual changes the MG release did is include the Miki route on the clear game report, so I guess it's needed for 100% now.

no

They only had one person testing the game. Translation was done for a long time on Sengoku.
Apparently we'll get Quest early next year, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Programming bottlenecked the project.

Why would they change that? I mean, I don't care either way since it's a minor detail, but should they really be making gameplay changes like that? Or was that something Alicesoft always wanted to do?

ran's route is the most relaxed

Sometimes the game freeze when putting an item or moving an unit.
Only happens when is in fullscreen, i think.

You're not very sane broski.
>decade old fan translation group of porn games
>literally no name people from IRC and different towns/countries
>11 years gap
And Takajun translation is garbage.

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Cheers to whoever programmed it though. The fan translation was 2gigs and MGs is a little under 700mbs. I have no idea how the fuck that happens in a game like this. I assume spaghetti code everywhere.

What's up with the naming scheme on the youkai units, anyway.

there's a group called texas in japan but you're questioning the gun wielding skeleton's naming conventions

I always forget about that one Shimazu "Generic" Commander with the unique skill to nuke everyone.

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Get the eye bonus, theyre strong af.

Fun activated

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What is difference between imprison and mustache option?

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A funnier kill

Mustache is same as kill, but funnier.

>tfw away when Rance translation comes out
>tfw all the hype will be gone by the time i get back
Fuck I just want to play Rance with my Yea Forumsros

You need more space for him and the other Tanukis.

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>Battlefield Effect +20%

do i have to truce eyeball man to get him as a unit or kick his dick in

kick his dick in

Kick his dick in and make sure you have enough national power for him to swooce in

do i have to have room for his wives too or no

If it's from one of the animes, it still counts.

Yes Omachad, your waifu is very stronk

The wives require a shitton of National Power, I remember that much.

What i need for the Ran route? Just rush to that zone?

>anal glasses

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The wives trickle in whenever you have space.

Ran Route is 100% waiting for stuff to happen.
>Wait for Ran to be convinced to stop using Suzaku
>Capture her
>Wait for Hojo to collapse on its own because Sounn is a cuck

This is fixed with the 1.05 patch. Just wanted to let you know.

Anyone got a download link?

wheres the patch?

Previous thread.

will i have to start a new save or no?

No.

this is the best unit in the game

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Does anyone have the mega download?

Not the best, but one of the best. I make a point to grab him on every playthrough.

How do I know the order of which my commanders will come out when the others die during the fight against nobunaga?

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>masamune gets 6 turns and starts at level 60

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you don't
Although first back row replacement tends to be Sill

Oh i meant xavier, it's the last fight so no sill for me.
But that's pretty stupid then, I can't retreat my tactician for a monk to get more action points or put kenshin on the board when needed, it just comes down to luck.

He's pretty good, yeah. Sucks the he doesn't actually start with any special moves, but raising his affection to teach him something is a no-brainer.

I can't recruit her even later?

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You need more national power. Right now recruiting her would put you at 72 cost, and while you can recruit people like that through purple events, with prison recruits you always need enough NP to actually sustain your army.

ok thanks

You need ryouma first.

just make the monk wait or replace the monk right away to keep it for later

Rape the maids.

Natori can't be captured right? I've got to actually conquer them no?

Yeah, she automatically goes to your prison when you conquer the last area from Mikos.

Thanks user.
I was too incompetent to find anything in the archives apparently.

>ctrl-F
>Ikkyu
Do people really not know how important Ikkyu is to capture?

It's only thanks to Ikkyu that that I was able to conquer immediately after the Ashikaga and the musket territory.

He isn't unless you are going for 5 stars run

People don't know. If you've been looking at maps that people have been posting, they've been avoiding Tokugawa too.

ikkyu and early uesugi feel like cheating

Enhanced Initial Guard or Ally Avenger for Shibata?

Enhanced initial guard.