Mainstage

>it's the nairanon again
You really are obsessed with sex kicks, aren't you?

Who is the best Marth and why is it M2K when he's having fun?

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>Hbox in Winner's
Bad day to start watching Melee again, I guess.

The blue Marth and the red Marth have always meant one thing...this is east coast vs west coast incarnate..

He already did. People just refuse to accept it.

Mid tier at best, solid combos, spacing and ledgetraps but bad mobility and kill confirms

do you think zain's beard makes him look better?

PPU is an infinitely more interesting Marth than Zain.

>melee
Let me know when Ultimate starts.

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marth is so much cooler in melee

Name a sound more satisfying than two two swords clanking.

>Zain

Ultimate already ended. Kiraflax upset MKLeo in grands in a reverse 6-0 with Dark Pit

Threadly reminder to meleefags

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I wish this would have went to game 5. That was fun to watch.

rent free

>Talking is a better video game than LoL

>western face
yuck

i want to make love to that navel

would laugh for the rest of time if this happened

This top 8 is boring

I'm sad we didn't get any Robin play this tournament.

>Just chatting

What is this like the camgirl category?

I would do it too. Playing the same game for 18 years to a point where you become the best in the world at the game teaches a man to hate. The only way he can kill this game is by dismantling anyone who challenges him. Not only is he doing that but he is getting tournament bux in the process. Truly the biggest chad in the gaming scene. When he is done crushing the melee scene he will be set for the rest of his life. He doesn't even need to find another hobby because he knows he is still the undisputed best in the world at the game that matters most. Melee.

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What am i supposed to see? that smash is more successful than fortnite?

twitter.com/raito_ssb/status/1175877758259359745
>Raito's not even salty about it
How will Leffen and Dark Wizzy (Who is black btw) cope?

nairo is still in so its definitely not off the table

Ridleybros, how do I get good at playing Ridley offline ?
Any advice and combos ?

Ur so bad at ultimate lmfao

I'd let HGOD do an HDAB while he HKEKS me but I'm an HBOX fan so I don't have a girlfriend, fuck

I don't think it matters though.

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i wonder why he was so scared of using banjo, i guess he's not that good with him yet? DH got decimated by Hero so hard.

>that ass
>AhHhhhhHhhh!

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user, this is a competitive melee thread.
No poster in this thread has a girlfriend
Let holy fire descend from the skies and destroy my very existence if I'm wrong, but I'm not wrong and I will post again in 3 minutes to prove it

That is true. While I don't think he'll break her out it is still possible if he is in a corner.
Its inspiring to watch and helps me think of things to improve my game.

I have one, I am also the only straight man to main peach.

For me, it's Axe.

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hes just more comfortable on dhd. im sure with time we'll see raito use more and more banjo

>Spargo is the most nominated player for Summit 2 so far
Imagine boring people so hard with your top tiers that people want a child more than you

He'd be my main man to root for if HBox didn't exist.

man melee is so based

this is the gayest top 8 in a while

Probably mid tier, but in this game that means there's 25+ characters better than you so no one plays her.

Force people offstage and edgeguard

You can use all your jumps trying to fair train your opponent to the blast zone and still make it back to stage if you up special backwards twords the stage

If you end your command grab early people end up under you alot as they try to regain stage control. Punish with down air if given the opportunity.

Always try to bair stage spike on a low recovery. People cant tech worth shit.

>That lonely guy shouting EY on the chaingrab
>Kill happens
>2 dudes clap

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Thanks user

Nice production values!

Lol counterpicking in melee give you free wins

i cant tell if youre upset that people dont like chaingrabs or if youre mad that a couple guys do

Yeah basically middle of mid tier.

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no one posting smash thots? these threads changed man...

>Hbox wins Melee
>MKLeo wins Ultimate
Why aren't you playing video games right now?

Oh.

ive got bioshock running in the background

>M2K retired
>Mango is a full time streamer now and sucks
>Armada and leffen focusing on ult
>PP never coming back
>Hbox not even playing his best and still wins almost every tournament

What's the point of melee anymore?

>33k viwers
look how it goes to up 60k in Ultimate finals

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Shitposting.

zain might beat hbox

I'm drawing porn.

He knows we're suffering, yet chooses to do nothing.

Why?

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It's quite rare seeing Robin around.

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nah its late as fuck, people are gonna go to sleep. ult grands wont even crack 50k

Maybe not since the Ultimate finals are the same people as always.

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is he our guy?

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God he's so annoying
>literally anytime something happens
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH OH MY GOD DUUUUUUUUUUUUDE LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Because you where so nice have a few more tips

Fair 2 auto cancles to combo into ftilt, if your opponent likes to do in downtilt to upair is good to fish for as well as downthrow to fsmash. After you skewer you can dsmash to cover roll in/get up if you are quick get up attack. Punish roll away with dash attack or fireball to dash attack. Chase your fireballs to dash attack or grab if they shield. If you are trying to carry someone offstage you want fair and to stop someone from coming back use nair.

I don't even think Samox's new documentary can bring in any new interest, not to mention the fact that it could have been released almost more than a year ago. I don't know why he's so adamant on having it be released on Netflix instead of youtube like the first one, I actually think it being on Netflix won't help Melee's exposure at all.

WHAT.
Can you make your own tournaments now?

>late as fuck
>9pm
how old are you?

>same pictures
>same filenames
I diagnose you with inceldom
prescription: have sex

The few times one comes out are usually a treat. Jul and Dath do some good work with Robin. Hell even Nairo made Robin work in a match against Marss.

50% of ultimate watchers are underage

No, he just gets his viewers to rig tournament mode.

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No

its 12pm where i am

He's a youtube-level director who struck gold by being in the right time and place with the original documentary. His new doc covers 2013-2015 and is already beyond out of date.

Playing it? The game is fun as fuck and my scene will never stop playing just because a bunch of e-celebs left.

melee without the melee gods is honestly fucking boring

playing ai: the somnium files but i'm pretty adhd so I keep switching back

Is Sheik still mid tier? Or did he get better/worse?

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They don't understand this because no one on Yea Forums actually plays games

>PP said he would return to competing around the time he starts streaming
>been streaming for months with 1000s of subs and hasn't even been to a local yet
i'm so mad. i remember when i actually believed him when he said he would go to genesis like 3 years ago now.

I wish wii fit trainer was in melee

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>he

I don't have a problem with melee but I wish it wouldn't always run over time.

PPMD will come back as an ultimate.

Salem was the good guy all along

He's the definition of a based retard. His attitude turned my opinion on latin american culture around desu.

>top 4 is hbox and 3 players i like
kek

Those "e-celebs" were the only thing that made melee actually interesting to watch at least. You can obviously still play the game but you are lying to yourself if you don't think melee is shrinking in player size and competitive spirit.

It started an hour late.

how long is the break?

I guess the weakest of baits does attracts the dumbest of fools

It should still be over by now then

How's Cloud in Ultimate?

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There's literally a countdown timer

I missed Ultimate top 16, what happened?
>DUUUUUUUUUUUUDE LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That's literally every smashfag. They all talk like niggers.

Mid tier. Still decent but nowhere near as good.

He is basically a jolly manchild.
He is very endearing to watch and see grow honnestly.

top 8 starting at 10 est is pathetic

They made him honest i.e. bad.

he's in middle-lower-higher-mid tier

Salem is in Summit.

youtu.be/7o6dUD2WQy8
tl;dw: Two of the best Sm4sh Cloud players talk about how he's useless now.

He's kind of annoying and douchey but I like him for some reason. He's somehow charismatic even though he says the same dumb shit all the time.

Decent. Best played as a secondary to another disjoint character like Joker, Ike, Chrom or Lucina.

glad he's (bad) so all the tierwhores can leave and I can be a cloud main in peace

Void is back, Samsora is out, and Salem made the call. He'll be in Summit if he beats Void or if he wins the tiebreaker for Summit

I still don't understand how even to this day, people blame X game for making Y game run late when the real culprit is T.O's and their shitty time management. Melee people did it when smash 4 would "go overtime" and now Ultimate people do it when Melee goes overtime. It always starts with the smallest 5 minute delay or something in the beginning of the day and it snowballs with long commercial breaks, and set up time until the last event where things are over an hour late.

Slept on. Bottom of top tier

Why would I think about things when I could shit on people who play the wrong smash game instead?

>people get older and slower
>young generation: wahhh we don't want to take the mantle and do stuff ourselves, we just want to stare into our phones and streamboar and complain on twitter and Yea Forums
this generation of "gaming" sucks and you guys show us true boomers from the 80s why you suck

>you are lying to yourself if you don't think melee is shrinking in player
Never said that, I specifically said my scene won't stop playing.
>and competitive spirit
Not on my scene at least, also netplay has let a lot of Ultimate players learn the game and get into their respective scenes if they care enough. As far as I know only streaming numbers have gone down a bit, tournament assistance has been pretty consistent worldwide.

>tfw been trying to pick up Marth in melee
It's like Corrin but without any of the fun parts.

You can also compare runtimes of actual top 8's gameplay and see that for the most part they're the same lengths, even in FGC games.

Like it or not, we need him.

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hbox wins lol

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Why did strider throw the match?

Why is online mode on Ultimate so fucking bad?
>Awful UI and system
>Lag up the ass
>2 buffer mechanics makes everything even worse
Sm4sh had amazing online options and to me at least never had lag, even when playing with Japs.

Has he killed Melee yet?

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Lee will probably take it . Samsora is out. Mars has no chance against him. Void? Lol.

Tea might be able to best him. Don't know about Light.

void thinks that sheik does good against joker

>Sm4sh had amazing online options
Such as?

Melee sucks though why would anyone want to get good at it now?

marss beat leo earlier this season, hes not free

before he started szreaming again, ppmd said he's looking forward to playing hbox

a-any day now right

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>Mars has no chance against him.
He beat him before though.

I didn't know Smash4 fags still existed.

Maybe stock Joker, but she has nothing that deals with Arsene.

>Void is back
Based. Perhaps Sheik isn't as shitty as we thought

He's been 3-0d ever since then stupid

Smash 4 while certainly no ultimate is about equal with melee until Cloud and Bayonetta came out

Sheik is very hard to hit, arsene needs to get hits to be good.

>gay boomer meme
god i hate the retard who got this shit popular

>equal with melee
L O L

Funny as though most of MKLeo's kills are without Arsene.

Mars fluctuates in gameplay a lot. He might play really good he might not.

>Such as?
For Glory is a better way for competitivefags to play on that Ultimate Matchmaking/Elite Smash
Tourney mode was excellent for groups of players to fight each other without having to friend them and add them to a lobby individually
Private lobbies actually worked, now you have the absolute trainwreck Arena mode is.
Liking something doesn't mean to ignore its flaws and think it's perfect, you know?

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He's gonna be SAPPED

Was inkling an overrated character?

How fucking late is Ultimate gonna run?

Man, I feel like they had the right idea with Arenas but feel half assed implemented.
Maybe be able to have multiple matches are the same time? And allow more than 8 people for that.
That way a group of, say 16 people can join an arena that can have 4 different customizable matches to line up to play.

What? Only Melee is on right now.

Yeah it's already 9:00

you can thank le ebin /r/roast of scar xD for the delay, also its gonna last even longer considering hbox will be in grands

Yes

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Ultimate starts after melee is over

Not giving a fuck about technical aspects of Smash for competent players + Nintendo not giving a fuck about making good hardware = kill me

I really feel your pain. Can't fucking change characters in matchmaking, Arenas don't let you change A N Y T H I N G, every dipshit doesn't want play more than once because of the fucking points, can't taunt whatsoever unless you're Kirby with a copy ability- I'll quit the bitching and say I'd rather play Smash 4 online than Ultimate.

Jesus Christ hbox singlehandily makes melee the most boring game of all time

All Hbox does is spam aerials.

Guys puff dies at 40
Just fsmash lmao

That would be fucking awful. Just make multiple arenas. Nobody wants to deal with the lag of having 20 people in a peer to peer lobby.
Arenas are fine as they are, the only issue is that you have to drop out of the queue to switch characters, but your friends are obviously going to give you your spot that, so this is only a issue if you play with random 12 year olds

>Nintendo not giving a fuck about making good hardware
Plenty of other switch games have good online smash has no excuse

clutchbox

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ngl that sing was pretty slick

that controller toss

clip it

>Maybe be able to have multiple matches are the same time?
It should have been like arenas in ARMS, they were much better in that game. Online in ARMS was perfect, I don't know why the devs didn't copied that.

Watching Hbox play is a great way to get ready for bed.

CLUTCHGOD

what an asshole

That rest was fucking SICK

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Fuck that fat boomer nigger

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HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

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>It's ANOTHER Zain/Hbox game 5 where Zain is up and then chokes it away
Holy fuck Zain has to be the least clutch top player alive

why are meleefags complaining? wasn't melee more hype that ultimate??? ALL WE HAVE NOW IS HBOX WTF BROS!!!

Shutting you in and forcing you into a corner is not "spam". He controls space.

What was that game like?

it's a completely free edgeguard on marth and literally a decade old but hbox never adapted it until seeing it in ultimate

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>tweek

BASED Hgod, smothering the melee scene yet again

>Smash 4 always came before Melee at majors
>Melee started on time every time
>Melee comes before Ultimate at majors
>Ultimate consistently starts multiple hours late
Why is your game so fucking slow, Meleefags?

Has anyone actually ever beaten HBox through loser's? Having reset on his side he's fucking unbeatable.

The fuck was that sing tech? I've literally never seen Hbox do it before?? What a fucking God.

Tweek's was one time and exaggerated because it was Evo grands. Zain/Hbox happens almost every time they play.

Hbox started using it after using(rather than seeing) Sing heavily on Ultimate since it's better there, probably because he realized he could make it work in melee too.

Imagine being heated over FUCKING JIGGS this shit always tickles me

Basically what you said, like 8 people could enter an arena, and then games would start at the same time, having matches wwith different rules, 1v1, 2v2, free-for-all, you name it, and it does it pretty lagless, the waiting time between matches was very low.

>>Smash 4 always came before Melee at majors
>>Melee started on time every time
This is a fucking lie.

>>Melee started on time every time

he started doing it after ultimate came out, did it against ppu at genesis too

yes

did Hungrybox just used his Ultimate sing tech here? it actually works??

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Is it finally over yet?

Yes, it did. Don't try to rewrite history, faggots.

haha

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Blame Hbox and Puff. Slowest (viable) fucking character and playstyle. Hbox grand-finals guarantees this shit is going to take forever.

> followers-only chat
Trash.

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You're a literal revisionist.

Would you?
Be honest.

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any one else wish you could smell images haha

So Ultimate leveled up Hbox? Shit

is this what the hfam tell themselves lmao

>N-no u
Again: stop trying to rewrite history, fag.

It's hardware restriction that is obviously taken into account by the developers to make the game playable on the most extreme cases, affecting the entire game i.e. 8 Player Ice Climbers with items on high on Fountain of Dreams or whatever

Which ones? Splatoon and Mario Kart both have trash online as well.

I just woke up, what are the best ultimate sets of top 16 to watch before top 8 starts? already watched glutto v tea,

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At least in Splatoon I can team up with friends online and play against randoms without having to start a private match.

He's been doing it for some time now.

Cute Pit!

Whats wrong with you retards playing fighting games

What did he mean by this

Mario Tennis online works fine

we still get to see leo destroy marss tho

OH NO OH NO OH NO

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This shit is fucking boring, gimme some MkLeo sets already.

I wish they could've at least added the thing in Mario Tennis that shows you how strong your opponent's connection is, letting you skip them if it's bad.

>so scared of hbox they go play ultimate instead
pathetic

how can you hate armada, he has always striked me as a cool dude

Welcome to the cuckshed boys

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Floaty vs Floaty Melee is actually fucking garbage, and top 4 is all floaties
We /ultwaitingroom/ now
Axe, Zain, and Amsa are still based

cursed image

Couldn't agree more. Floaty vs floaty matchups are the least fun ones to watch.

Is Armada really balding, or is his hair just that thin? Poor guy.

Also, aren't both Leffen and Armada out of Ultimate already? I wish they entered Melee (I know Armada memed out of Melee forever, but still). I'm so tired of Jigglypuff every god damn time.

Also, fuck ZSS and Joker. I hope Tea wins Ultimate. Probably not gonna happen though.

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Do leffen and armada speak swedish to each other?

>that hair
adam deserves better

TWO HOURS
AND SHIT HASN'T FINISHED
WHY

Been deep in CoD beta all weekend, what'd I miss?

I see aMSa and Axe are about to have to teamkill one another. What a great matchup tho.

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Agreed, and also fuck Jigglypuff.

>bair
>bair
>bair
>bair

kill me

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it's a melee tech he's been doing in ultimate actually

The stress was really getting to him. He really wanted to be the DOMINATE #1

they do but it's rare to see on video. they teamed at a Melee Summit and you can see it there, also at Ultimate Summit after their match vs each other they talk a little

BAIR GOOD
LANDING ON STAGE BAD

F

>Melee is such a Chad Game it's cucking Tr4.5h and all of it's Ultizoomers bandwagon """fans"""
BASED MELEE WINS AGAIN
BASED
A
S
E
D

NOOO FUCK YOU BOOMER

Jesus, Axe didn't let aMSa breath near the end

Melee boomers can do whatever as long as they never make it to EVO again. Best year in a long while.

>Axe wins
Welp, goodnight Zain and congrats Hbox.

Which Twitch chat did you copy this from?

He really pulled it all together at the end. Great set, very back and forth

give axe your fucking energy, he needs it

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>still Melee
Jesus what a slow game.

user who was on the scene for Prodigy. Is there any equivalent for Mainstream here to give a rundown for what's going on on the ground?

Zain has the best chance to beat Hbox other than aMSa

and aMSa can't beat Zain

swallow your pride and put your faith in Brown Town, he can do it

cope ulticuck zoomey zoom
Melee is so based it's gonna go past your bed time and mommy will be mad if you are late for school

What the fuck meleebros I thought our game was fast?!? Ultimate is supposed to be the slow one! We can't let Ultchads see this!!!

>best in the world
best jigglypuff

>axe won
Now it's definitely over. See you all next major.

I just saw one of my children kill the other
This isnt faiiir

For the love of god, please let Zain beat Axe this one time. I love Axe but the matchup is just dogshit awful and he's coming from losers. Zain is our only glimmer of hope and it's fading away.

It's time for Armada to get slim again then shave. His face looks so soft and round now but he does have the bone to pull off bald and bearded judging by 2014.

Zain can't beat Axe, and Axe just took out aMSa.
Hbox is beating Axe.

You shouldnt care about who wins, you should care about the matches

nice falseflag mr ultizoom
your game is for raging cucks and is shit and your is your life
dilate and cope, Melee is Eternal

Neither one of them can take 2 sets off hbox in a row.
It's basically over.

ULTIZOOMERS ABSOLUTELY GETTING BTFO'D
BED TIMES COOMING KIDDIES

Give me a reason why it's started at 7pm.

>Zain can't beat Axe,
Wrong. Zain will win

aMSa could have beaten Hbox

Axe would have to work a miracle

>Time keeps proving Saleem more and more correct
How did he do it, lads?

cope
axe will win then get slowly shit on and tortured by hbox

Why do you guys want Zain to cause a bracket reset?? Shit is honestly running late

What the *uck is up with the OP pic? Get laid, seriously.

Guys guys guys guys why is Melee running so late I wanna watch Ultimate but my parents make me get off the internet in one hour :c :c :c :c

What the fu**ing fu** did you just say, bi***?

>7pm
>bed time

>melee fags will use this as shitposting bait when melee top 8 has more viewers than Ultimate top 8 at 1 am when most of chat is just waiting for ultimate to start anyway

Melee is dead.

I hope Based Salem gets an invitation. For the salt and to make reddit seethe. He already destroyed Cuckmada and Raito.

Take a shower.

fuck off ultizoomer

It's the same as Genesis. Every single tourney that ends at a reasonable hour has ultimate with twice as many viewers sometimes even more than that.

WOW A MARTH MAIN
I WONDER IF THERE WILL BE FOX MAINS?

Is Melee played on an emulator for these tournaments? Picture looks too good to be 480p

I fucking hope so too.
>Salem in Mafia
Gonna be fucking based.

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its played on a modded wii. the modded wii sends the inputs to a program that renders it in this quality

>Smelee will end up TWO HOURS over schedule
Fast game guys, lol. And look, Hbox, and a Marth in the finals, what a shock. And after a sea of spacies all tourney, who could have guessed!?

IIRC they have some setup where they mirror the inputs to an emulator and that emulator is used for the stream gameplay and the stats they show after a set.

>m-melee's high numbers a-are j-just people waiting for u-ultimate, g-guys!

C O P E
O
P
E

Wait a minute are we still doing Ultimate Finals after this? Because it's going to be at like 4AM lmao

Melee is so slow its pushed everything back
>spacies
>spacies
>spacies
>spacies
>hbox wins

How new are you to competitive Smash?

This. It's super helpful to because an input list of every match played is kept so people can completely replay games and study them, as I understand it.

played on a Wii, google Project Slippi if you're interested

New enough to believe it when Yea Forums told me Melee is faster than Ultimate

Where is this tournament being held? I hope it's not on the east coast for the sake of the Ultimate players.

It's in Ontario California.

Ontario, CA

Nothing of value lost

ultimate was meant to be on 70 minutes ago holy shit melee is so slow how do you fuckers watch this shit.

This is what happens when you remove spacies

for the love of fuck mang0 go to rehab or something

I love how everyone is complaining about the time yet 40k people are still watching
Like shut up nigger you know you dont have shit to do

Main events for Smash major are usually this late. It was the same back when we had Smash4 before Melee

Ontario, Canada.

alright chums, its looking like an axe win lets just skip ahead and stop pretending we dont know whats going to happen

God I love the Melee ost. Too bad Ultimate has that shit ac music 90% of the time.

See and cope

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What happened to all the spacies mains anyways? Why do we only have literal whos like yoshis and marths these days?

melee has trash music compared to ultimate

this guy is retarded

I love how this retard completely ignores the existence of tilts

Armada retired, Leffen is trying very hard to prove he's legit in Ult and Mango is a buster.

kek, enjoy your sleep inducing music fag

>game becomes so heavily flooded with fox/falco/marth/shiek players that non-viable characters become viable because they never practice against them
lol

Why is this trash taking so long?

Ultimate has Pokemon music 90% of the time. Which is usually great.

oh shit oh fuck fuck an mspaint argument fuck

how do we debate this guy bros

>Up tilt
>Forward tilt
>Down tilt
Not seeing a diagonal tilt there, friend.

What did you mean by this?
No, seriously, doesn't Ultimate has every track from previous games?

Time for Hbox to take another memelee tourny

Melee is a slow game, a lot of spacies

>comparing outdated garbage quality music to the superior music in ultimate
Kill yourself nigger with shit taste

Mang0 turned into a streamer for ez $$$
Armada retired after Hbox dabbed on him too much
Leffen is a jobber

holy fuck please get this over with and start Ultimate

Aximus Maximus

Thought leffen gave up at Ult?

Did he realise that melee is actually dying?

The easiest example is Little Mac's Side Smash
Diagonal up for killing early, diagonal down for shield break.

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Thats how Meta works in any game
Tilts cover a wide variety of ranges, in that specific example Mario can Utilt, or better yet, use his Usmash

He's referring to the stage selection which limits music, he believes that 90% of stage selection is Animal Crossing based

>Smash is mostly played in the air
>This means it is boring
This makes absolutely no sense. How does air = boring?

Armada is literally the only player that has a positive record against HBox.

They exist, they're just virtually never used for anti airs

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>Armada retired after Hbox dabbed on him too much
Actually Armada was the only player with a positive record vs Hbox at the time of his retirement

Dash dancing negates this but post-melee smash doesn't have that so this pic is unironically true for them

>spacies
They are called furniggers.

The spacies aren't what slow things down.

Can Hbix just win already jesus christ why are they dragging this shit out so much.

Ultimate has all of the Melee music you dumb mouthbreather

a shitload of characters have forward tilts that can be aimed diagonally up and down, and often those that can't have an up tilt that covers their head

Most of it, but we usually get stuck with Animal Crossing music thanks to the stage picks.
More Pokémon music than anything these days though, since PS2 is the most played stage.

A lot of up tilts hit diagonally.

most characters have u-tilts that cover diagonals, or f-tilts that can be angled diagonally

Us ultimate players never shower, what makes you think we sleep?

Armada was up 5-1 in sets vs Hbox in 2018 and the last set they played was Armada 3-0ing Hbox

take a shower you false flagging smelee

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there just needs to be an option to use Smash Bros. music on any stage you like

Have sex

Or, y'know. Some of us have work in the morning.

God
You niggers really are just Twitch Chat

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Holy shit the venue is absolutely packed.

This is true for only a few characters AFAIK, like Duck Hunt.

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My number one request every patch is for custom stage playlists. You can already create playlists to listen to, why the FUCK can't they be applied to stages this shit drives me up the wall.

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>needs to abuse hero to beat ratio
>ratio cant even read hero's menu in english and has a big disadvantage
b-based...!

>Marth up-tilt and forward tilt
>Fox and Falco up-tilt
>Sheik forward-tilt and up-tilt
>Puff up tilt

>Even the commentators acknowledge the crowd is only here for Ultimate

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btssmash events that aren't summit are always awfully organized

This is already over 5 minutes in, who cares about melee at this point?

DUDE SKITS LMAO

YOUNG LINK BOIS

>abuse hero
He's a natural counterpick against zoners and Raito expected Snake so he didn't prepare for the matchup.

>post-awakening FEfag is an Ultizoomer

As expected of the trash of the FE fandom.

>COMMITS SUICIDE DURING GRAND FINALS DUE TO HOW SHIT MELEE IS

>Using a character is now abusing
How is Raito in Canada if he doesn't know English?
Checkmate, virgin.

I'm kind of new to competitive smash. How does melee have a competitive scene at all? I was going to watch ultimate but then I saw melee on the stream. Isn't that game almost 20 years old?

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I’m getting the same feeling I had when I watched smash 4 top 8 only this time its melee, what the fuck happened?

Oh fuck why did he actually pick him, I did this as a joke

That's some fresh material from the typical commentators who talk about anything except the game

>young link

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>Puff vs. Young Link
We're going to time, aren't we?

no shit. fefags are the worst. the only fe character that should be in smash is marth.

His Can works as a pretty good Anti-Air if you space it right

The god tier players retired

When did Melee become such a fucking shitshow??

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Well he's a Smashzoomer so it evens out

Yeah we get it, Melee bad. Can we stop talking about Melee now?

yep, its over

Summits only go on schedule because there is little amount of people to TO for, they have a lot of time liberty to just fuck around.
You rarely get that on bigger tournaments, the TO/competitor relationship in Smash is one of the worst I've seen in any competitive setting.

Y U N G L I N K

based chuufag

Grounded options that can all beat a diagonal nair approach depending on the angle.

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>Raito expected Snake so he didn't prepare for the matchup.
You're just assuming this, everyone knows Salem is the best Hero. He wouldve prepared for it especially since hero has a good matchup vs duckhunt.

That's just twitch faggots. They think their viewers get excited when they say the same shit.

Since Hbox started getting really good. If it wasn't for that melee would be continuing in its glory years right now.

...

Melee has a higher skill ceiling, different play styles, more speed, and techniques that aren't in later games. Anyone who played Fox in Melee and Ult will know how different they play.

I also forgot to include up-angled F-Smash.

How is this stage legal?

why the fuck do we still let them pick pokestad

yes, melee is so hype and fast i see the light now melee fags

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the attraction is the gameplay. fast, responsive, deep and intricate. if you played it you might understand

>Match is literally nothing but Short Hop Nair vs. Short Hop Bair
OH NONONO MELEE BROS I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST ULTISHIT
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

also just moving left and punishing the landing.

I am falling asleep here

freeze stadium
tell ur friends

The undertale image means this has to be a troll, right? You know you have to be 18 to post here right?

Ultimate waiting room.

so this is the most hype fighting game ever, huh?

Is there a valid argument against frozen PS? I'm actually curious.

That's fine but I assume the opponent is already somewhere directly, diagonally above the player. At that point, the Can doesn't come out in time, misses, gets hit back by the aerial or explodes in your face.

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So this....is the power...of....Melllllllleeeeeeeehhhhhh.......

It's less higher skill ceiling but more different. The two games play completely different and saying you need more skill to play one over the other is just disingenuous,

MELEE IS SO SICK BROS WE DID IT

The techskill demonstrated in this one game still is a million times more than any Ultimate match, but of course retarded nusmashers like you literally can't see that.

this is legitimately one of the worst Grand finals of any major Melee event I've ever seen, if not THE worst, and I've watched for 7 years

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well actually its fullhop bair

Nintendo wont give us a tiny amount of sponsorship if we use mods!

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This is Brawl-tier gameplay and the loser fighting Hbox literally playing a joke character, lol.

>different play styles
lol, it has 8-10 viable characters and most of them play the same style of rushdown.

DEAD ALREADY

I mean DHD is weak to Rushdown, makes sense because he's such a strong (and whacky) zoner but he's not totally helpless either

Nintendo sponserships for tournaments, that's about it

Thoughts on being this retarded?

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>newfags are just now figuring out why melee fans hate hbox

vanilla melee but then again they all play with ucf etc

>throw every character you got against Hbox

Come at the King and get slayed

Melee players are absolutely terrified of anything that takes any sort of setup. See: Project M.

Congrats to Hbox!

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Sweet lies, Meleefag.

>8-10 viable characters
>melee

Nintendo shoving their jap microdick into the picture.

Good to see Hbox wants Ultimate to start as much as we do.

that's worse for melee lmao

>Hbox kills melee
Was he the good guy all along?

Play melee for an hour then go back to ultimate, you'll see why. They're nothing alike.

Not his fault he plays a bad character and STILL wins. Certainly more entertaining than Fox #4270 for the billionth time.

>
>The two games play completely different and saying you need more skill to play one over the other is just disingenuous,

Zero, a barely top-30 Melee player back when he still played the game, was so dominant in Smash 4 that he was viewed as nearly unbeatable for an entire year, lmao

Are you... Are you a moron? You do realize every local is played on 20XX or Slippi right?

>You're just assuming this,
Wrong.
twitter.com/raito_ssb/status/1175854748584443904
Look up what 詰める means.

fuck

THE CHAMP

Based Hbox

So how much of their estimated allotted time did Melee go over now?

this entire top 8 has been a snoozefest

At least hgod wrapped it up quick. Based, time for a real smash game

HAIL TO THE KING BABY

fuck hbox

All hail Team Liquid, killing Melee with Hungrybox's Jigglypuff and Ultimate with Dabuz's Olimar.

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Hbox is good alright
But what the fuck are you thinking Goign Yink
Youre not fucking armada

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and now it's time to watch leo win ultimate again

based axe throwing instead of fighting hbox seriously

HBox is pretty based desu

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I turned off the stream after game 2, did Axe stay ylink?

Sick top 8

Shame about the Whollesome Eggstatic team kill

what a shitshow of grands. Nice to see secondaries come out but they didn't fare any better than Pikachu.

>Ike and Cloud that low
What happened

>in Smash 4
smash 4 ain't ultimate buddy

Currently at 95 minutes over schedule

literally Simon Belmont destroys this post.

What does Smash 4 have to do with Ultimate?

Yeah, Ultimate is actually fun.

And all Melee players are total shit at Ultimate. Leffen is so bad he blames the game and claims top tiers like Pokemon Trainer are bad when he loses with them for playing like ass.

CLUTCH
GOD

>Certainly more entertaining than Fox #4270 for the billionth time.
I can't disagree more. Fast and technical stuff is more fun than slow and floaty matches where every game takes 6 minutes.

Nah, he switched to Falco and got walked across the Pokémon Stadium.

Which is all useless when the only tech hbox did to win was airdodging on a diagonal direction towards the stage a couple times per match in between his infinite bairs.

>turn in to the finals
>HBOX wins again

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You're right and I'm surprised the other retards didn't call me out. This board has changed.

Why is he always able to clutch it out or crush the competition. How does he do it so consistently? Is it literally juts jigglypuff?
Can Juan even play any other characters?

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Based Boomer

Hbox might have won the tournament, but Axe won our hearts and that's all that matters in the end, right guys! :D

You either Solo Main Fox/Marth or you dont beat Hbox

Went Falco and got rested twice

BASED HBOX

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>Zero, a barely top-30 Melee player back when he still played the game, was so dominant in Smash 4 that he was viewed as nearly unbeatable for an entire year, lmao
You mean the same guy Armada said could easily become a Top Ten Melee player if he actually applied himself?

Falco game 3. Two upthrow rests in the first minute.

He literally underplayed Joker's Samus play as "matchup inexperience" like he didn't get his ass 2-0'd by ZAKI at Prime Saga because he fucking sucked

ganon's placement depends entirely on your IQ

scar looks so fucking bored jesus christ

>No Samsora to make him sweat this time
this whole tournament is a fucking snooze god damn

Ike sucks once you learn to shield every time he jumps.
Cloud is a worse version of Lucina and Chrom.

Axe's YL is miles better than Armada's. He doesn't want to but he needs to pick up Fox for it or HEAVILY invest in Falco for it.

>Fast and technical stuff
So Ultimate. Most matches range from 2 minutes to 4 minutes. Meanwhile Melee is here over an hour and a half over schedule.

Did Trihex die?

If it was just Puff he wouldn't be so dominant and there would be more in top 8.

He's simply the best Melee player of all time.

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>Tr4sh 2.0 players still pretend their shitty game isn't a tarted up Smash 4 port

on the inside yes

it's all stroder's fault

racism won

Time for more Salem drama

that is the face of bobby scarnewman
bobby scaruzio has been dead for years

is there a more advanced autism than melee autism in gaming?

>slow and floaty matches where every game takes 6 minutes
You mean like the final handful of Melee matches this tournament?

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>Barely top 30
>Barely

Excuse me he played the game for like a year and got top 30 thats pretty fucking impressive

after that performance no doubt about it

He plays Ness in Melee and Little Mac sometimes in Ultimate.

He's insanely patient and puts in a ton of practice. I'm saying this as a dude who hates puff, but Hbox has nerves of steel.

Because the games are different, you mongoloid. Most Melee players were trash at Smash 4.

My nose is as big as Scars would you consider that big?

shut up dipshit Zero could've been top 10 in Melee easily if he kept at it. The dude was one of the best players in PM but I guess you're too young to remember that

>Diddy mid
>Samus low
>Mii Gunner low
It can't be cured sadly.

Well, I like both games, and I'm not here to force diversion and flame wars. Unlike retards like you.

aMSa could have beaten Hbox

Better than the worse balanced, more bland port of Smash 64 that Melee is.

Why does anyone listen to this fucking clown holy shit.

So then all the Melee gods should wipe the floor with Ultimate, right?

except for Armada and Wizzy, aka the majority of HBox slayers.

Melee is one of a kind in the Smash scene, every game from Brawl onwards is nothing like it.

There's a couple characters in Ult that feel very similar to Melee characters, like ZSS, Wolf, Inkling, Chrom/Roy and YL, but they're far and few between.

>Ult pushed back 2 hours for a leddit roast

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>Sonic Corrin and Meta Knight in Mid

This is retarded moving on

>Well, I like both games, and I'm not here to force diversion and flame war
Which is why you lie and hyperbole against Ultimate and lie to suck Melee's cock? Nice try.

Where is Samsora?

Leffen is the only Fox that has HBox's number. Unfortunately Leffen is trying to grind Ultimate so he'll never be relevant in Melee again.

I'm convinced HBox only looked shaky to Zain/Axe/Wizzy because of matchup inexperience. He hasn't had any difficulty with them since he lost to them the first time around earlier in the year.

>Munchie's face when 8 casts Kamikazee.jpg

Oh wow I didn't see him in top8 and just assumed he didn't show up. How the fuck did this happen lmao

Samus consistently places well in tournaments. No way she is low tier.

>way faster
>different engine, feels completely different
>different gameplan and meta
>different artstyle
>different top tiers

Was Brawl just a Melee port?

retarded argument. nobody else wants to play puff because it's not fun. There's no incentive to, it's not like there are million dollar pots on the line. If everyone played puff, the scene would die and nobody wants that.

M2K and Leffen could easily destroy hfraud if they played puff. Armada too. But Armada will never play puff. You know why? Because he has integrity and refuses to cheese tournaments with a fucking fraud character, that's why.

>Pushed back
It was always scheduled this way, bitch just got the time wrong

Vella is cute! CUTE!

I hate scarflard too, but hitting top 30 after 10 months of play is pretty fucking good. Other pros have said he could go even higher if he actually tried instead of raking in the easy Tr4sh money.

even worse, wagie

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What are you talking about? You're the one who brought up Ultimate, and now you're trying to project shit onto me.

>racism won

Why does Yea Forums of all places pretend to care about a dude dropping the n word. He's based.

Being able to play as the funny skeleton man doesn't make Gunner good, sorry to say.

only zss does

new thread?

>This old excuse

Out at 13th

I can't remember but I don't think it's ever better to actually hit with an angled tilt rather than just moving and punishing the landing with a grab

>Leffen is grinding ultimate so he'll never be relevant again.

I hate Leffen more than most people but did you not see Smash con, like at all? Dude 3-0'd Hbox in Winners finals and then 3'0'd him in Grands

Every game in the Brawl Trilogy is identical in their level of ass, so really, the differences you purport to exist are meaningless anyway.

>because it's not fun
Neither is playing spacies, Peach, or Shiek, but people do it to win.

>There's no incentive to
Oh fuck off. You really think pros wouldn't toss away their pride if it meant guaranteed wins every tourney? You have Axe picking up YL/Falco just to try to beat Hbox and get dabbed on.

Every game after 64 is bad anyway

>Viewership dropped by 10k
NOOOOOOOOO ULTIBROS I THOUGHT MELEE WAS THE WAITING ROOM

>Unfortunately Leffen is trying to grind Ultimate so he'll never be relevant in Melee again.

Leffen won the last major he entered. He only wanted to play Ult for this tourney tho cause he was feelin burnt.

Have you heard of these things called "jokes"?

Because tourists keep trying to astroturf here. They think they actually blend in too lol.

Samsora had to play out of his absolute mind AND get a win from literal RNG to not completely fuck up his nerves to beat Leo once, and ever since then he's been placing worse and worse.

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>the Brawl Trilogy
Melee, Brawl, and Smash 4?

Yikes who did he lose to? He's the only one who could realiastically beat Mkleo.

*Nu-Smash Tetralogy

>using the best tactics available in a fighting game is "cheese"
guess the only truly legit, non-cheesy melee players play as kirby

Melee is a smash 64 port with worse combos

His trolls are actually funny. I don't understand why anyone gets so triggered by him.

Lol

based retard

>meleeniggers coping already over that shit ass grand finals
Jesus just eat your pride and admit it was boring as fuck

The original post wasn't talking about Ultimate at all you zoomer retard.
>slow and floaty matches
You just read this and assumed he meant ultimate.

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I meant that he would be a lot more consistent if he grinded Melee. Like I said he can beat HBox, but getting to that point? He's more likely to get randomly knocked out before then.

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i think stroder sent sam to losers yesterday (3-1, lost as mario, went roy for the other games) then tea (the jp pacman) eliminated sam in losers

>zoomer
Image checks out

Nice backpedaling, you zoomer smelee trashcan. It's the same lie you faggots try with every non Melee game, you're just mad you got caught like a dumbass.

>because it's not fun
melee isn't fun.

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I don't really disagree, angled tilts are commonly fairly unimpressive as anti-airs. Down-angled F-tilts tend to have more use due to launch angle.
I just included it for completeness.
A lot of characters do use Up-Tilt since it usually covers an arc and handles the diagonal approach.

>racism won
>salem made top 8

Salem is an honorary white.