Xenoblade

Nia was from echell, not white chair

>Is this from Nia's backstory? Don't remember this shit at all.
unrelated to Nia, the city's destruction would've happened before she was resonated with. it's never mentioned in the main story but you can find it out from NPCs. the destruction of the city was what convinced Gormott to finally surrender to Mor Ardain, ending the war

Why is she so fucking smug

I've invested too much time into this shit just to give up now
Plus I want to do NG+ knowing I've maxed everything I can in my first playthrough

She about to get penetrated by Mumkhar

I wish the Alrest Record book had more information about the things that were cut from Xenoblade 2.
there are so many cut sidequests that are still in the files, and a bunch of cut NPC dialogue too. I can't imagine what else must've been cut earlier in development

are there any games like xenoblade series that can scratch the itch till the definitive edition comes out?

FF12

the combat is faster than 2? how adhd are you?

pretty mediocre title with a throwaway story

I'm hoping it's decent but I get the feeling Nintendo's gonna fuck it up since they never know how to do remakes without fucking up on one aspect or the other.

Im still confused

Is this a remake or a remaster?

just a remaster with content added back that was unfinished due to budget / time constraints back on the wii. dont expect combat to be shaken up or sidequests to be improved all that much

remaster with remade heads/face with new added content

It's a 'definitive edition' which more implies port than anything but they're obviously changing major things like the artstyle and adding Bionis' Shoulder so who knows at this point

Officially, it's a remaster.
They're adding new stuff and the graphical improvements are a lot more than just texture upgrades, though.

how is it compared to xenoblade? i played it abit when i was a kid and i didnt really liked it but my taste has changed since then

Feels more like a remake to me, new 3D models, "new" areas and probably even re-recorded voices.

I've only played the original, and I think it's generally worse in most aspects but still good. Party AI customization and dedicated dungeons are nice. Can't comment on zodiak edition

What a nice girl. I hope nobody force robotifies her.

>this will be in HD
hnng

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Literally looks like a mech sex doll

They should really add enough content to justify it's re release, I have over 120 hours and I expect it more than a graphical update

that's Meyneth's aesthetic, she'd have nothing less for her vessel

Could x be set in the virtual reality created to raise the Trinity processors user

Meyneth a whore confirmed
Zanza was based all along

if being a whore is a bad thing Sharla shouldn't have been a party member

How much do I benefit from playing the Saga games before X? I’m planning on playing Gears to visit series roots before going back to the later XB games, though haven’t decided if I’ll follow it directly with X or 2.

>graphical improvements are a lot more than just texture upgrades,
Not really. Have you looked at an in-depth comparison? It's mostly textures, sky box, grass density and the new character models. It looks almost like the Dolphin version running in HD

lighting is completely different in the metal face scene. grass density hasn't been increased, it's been turned from a 2D texture to 3D models

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We already got what was cut from the game though, it's Torna

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PC Port when?

No.

in a few years when yuzu runs things other than mario worth a shit and it doesnt need high tier hardware to run fucking tablet games.

>the good gameplay was cut from 2 and resold
a damn shame

That's why it is good.

correction, Torna should have been a full game not a DLC
what a wasted opportunity

Torna's gameplay was subpar though, its elemental combos and orb system was shit. XC2's combat was far better

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>Torna should have been a full game
It was. You can buy it and never play base XC2

only a smoothbrain thinks torna's spam combat is better. Talent arts and vanguard are nice but it's all ruined by the new orb building mechanics

Congrats you fucking Einstein. You did it. You figured out the one flaw in the game, that is mainly there to keep the game short. I am in awe of your high intellect.

Meanwhile switching between driver and blade is way more fun than the shit in the base game.

he's right that the xp curve is kind of fucked in 1, if you sidequest intensively you're massively overleveled, if you don't sidequest very much (and he's also right that you're not necessarily lead to sidequests very well after the early portion of the game) you're hugely underleveled and have to grind monsters. I also worry about pacing considering how Bionis Shoulder is going to be slotted between Makna Forest and Eryth Sea which further frontloads the game. I hope they add some stuff to Mechonis to make it a little more interesting to traverse.

That's one thing I sure love in my RPGs, fall damage killing me due to a camera hiccup or whatever. Screw that.

No.

Speaking of this, is it recommended to buy the Torna cart or buy the DLC for the base game? Remember that HD space is worth money too specially on a video game console

>one flaw
it's a huge fucking flaw when orb building is the main source of damage for most builds

I got pretty far in 1 but never beat it.
I was gonna try 2 while waiting for the 1 Definitive Edition to give it another chance.
Do I need to have beaten 1 to understand 2 or is it a standalone story?

I mean that was an easy fix, they just made orb mastery an inherent ability. They should have just increased the number of orbs you needed to burst for a full burst.

It's still a DLC even if it's sold separately, it doesn't have the content of a full game, if it was full the game wouldn't revolve around completing sidequests

maybe

fucking SP gain so maxing skills isnt 40 hours extra of grinding after finishing everything else

I bought XC2 back when it came out but it's been sitting on my backburner ever since. This weekend I picked up the Torna stand-alone cart on clearance for 20 so I'm wondering if it matters which one I play through first? Plot twists don't really matter since you jackasses have been spoiling everything since release week anyway.

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Why, yes, I do play rpgs and never do sidequests, how could you tell?

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Will they do something about missable quests and affinity chart entries?

Definitely play XC2 first. Torna assumes you already have enough knowledge about the world, and won't waste time explaining it again.

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>Fiora was a modest girl but after her conversion she's forced to wear super slutty robo wear showing off her cleavage and ass cheeks
>conditioned to not even think anything of it she just walks around wearing virtually nothing with no shame whatsoever

It's great, isn't it?

God, it looks fucking awful now.

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Bros what if...
You can prevent Fiora's "death" and she just continues to be a party member throughout the game like in the beginning? The story would change accordingly of course

>t's been turned from a 2D texture to 3D models
No? Are you blind? It's the same 2D swaying textures they've used in every Xenoblade

>The story would change accordingly of course
There would be no urgency

that's impossible, Zanza had already decided what would happen and that would certainly fuck up his plan

Bros, what if, you killed yourself and we never had to read such stupid posts again.

The main reason Shulk and Reyn left on their journey in the first place was for Shulk to get revenge for Fiora's apparent death. Why would they leave if she's safe and sound?

XC2 uses 3D models for grass, XCDE does as well

>HANDHELD MODE
biggest improvement between 2 and 1DE we need

And what if...
Reyn dies instead?
They can just say that his disciples allowed it to happen somehow or something
>No fun allowed
You just lack creativity bro, it would be cool if they gave enough fucks to change the story drastically so that people who played the original game had something new to experience

XC1DE clearly uses XC2's engine, it's not even debatable.

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Fuck off, go pretend FF7 R is good.

>>Combat speed
Just make the game a proper ARPG instead.

Calling other people losers on a korean scuba diving forum is a case of pot calling the kettle black ain't it?

>Reskin.
Is a remake.

She "dying" is vital to the plot, retard.

Player wouldn't care much if the oaf got killed instead of the pure waifu so it wouldn't have much of an impact.

What sort of nigger plays rpgs but doesn't do every side quest they come across, they usually have the best shit in them

NTR WEBM IN HD DEFINITIVE EDITION WHEN?

Hopefully this summer. Also, this is not NTR, nor cuckoldry. Stop using words the wrong way.

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no shit

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Melia>>Fiora>Egil's sister>>>>>>power gap>>>>>>>Sharla

I once spent over a week killing slobos in xenoblade 1 in order to max out every single characters battle arts.
It was not fun

Don't change old events, instead add new events.

no it doesn't work that way, it's with the Monado that Zanza is able to choose one outcome and force the universe into going down that path, Zanza had planned Fiora's death because going down that path would get him to Egil

What a gay, it's actually Sharla>Melia's mom>Egil's sister>Meyneth>Melia's sister>Fiora>>>>>cute NPCs>>>>>Riki's diarrhea he got from eating so much shit>>>>>Melia

I'm so glad the environmental lighting is largely intact, X and 2 were kind of a mess in that regard.

Unfortunately.

Wonder if there's ever any hope of X getting remade. I know there's several barriers (music rights, the game was specifically designed for the Wii U's architecture and would be a nightmare to straight port over, the online functions, the touchscreen menus if you play docked, etc.).

not really, this isn't some niche site anymore. And yes, having a completionist autism is a sign of loser.

What do you mean?

Xenoblade is my favorite game franchise, and it's filled the void left by Pokemon when Game Freak turned into Japanese Bethesda.

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> music rights
wait, did they like... pay someone externally for UHH UHH YEAH?
> game specifically designed for the Wii U's architecture
Lots of things seem to have been, user.
> the online functions
That weird Twitter integration the Splatoon devs cooked up seems to have been adopted by several more games.
> Touchscreen menus
Should be easy enough to replace. The question is whether it'll be done well.

>Neptuniablade is my favorite game franchise
My condolences

You have to go back

Oh good, the shitposter is still around

The first Xenoblade has very soft, naturalistic lighting whereas X and 2 have this weird harsh colored lighting like some kind of instagram filter or something.

Last I heard Sony actually owns the music somehow. It's why none of the music tracks have been reused in any later game to my knowledge. Not even in Ultimate.

>no black strips half covering up the potato

Censor this immediately.

>Last I heard Sony actually owns the music somehow. It's why none of the music tracks have been reused in any later game to my knowledge. Not even in Ultimate.
they're literally in Xenoblade 2 and Sawano is fine with his tracks being in things because it lets more people hear his stuff, meaning it's free exposure

>Wait, did they like... pay someone externally for UHH UHH YEAH
Yes. Sawano owns the rights to his music. Or rather, Sony does. Sony Music has DMCA'd several XCX soundtrack videos on Youtube. So it's likely that to reuse the X songs would require paying Sony.

>Touchscreen menus should be easy enough to replace
Arguably not. XC2's menus were a fucking disaster compared to X's. Compare how fast travel worked in X to 2

so it's going to look like shit in handheld mode?

She's a loaded potato, user. The only thing she should be covered in is butter.

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This is your new wife

Say something nice about her

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Cute!!!

I'm glad she made so many wonderful friends.

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I love my cute sassy wife!

This is fucking bullshit. Check vgmdb, not only Sony isn't involved anywhere, and even if they were, it doesn't pose any problem whatsoever.

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WHY DOES HER BODY HAVE NO FUCKING DEFINITION

where are your abs?

Then why are they being DMCA'd by Sony Music on Youtube?

I-Its the artstyle!!!

Is it worth trying to emulate XBX? Never played it before, but enjoyed XB2 well enough.

Sony DMCA a lot of things from Youtube, many music holders DMCA shit from Youtube. It doesn't mean Nintendo and monolith can't reuse the very music they own. Are you retarded? When Nintendo makes sure to take down a music video from Youtube, does that mean Nintendo can't use said music in their game? How does that relate to anything?

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XBX is basically the exploring and sidequesting stuff from XB1/2 dialed up to 11, with the story and characters suffering as a result. The music and designs may be better or worse depending on your tastes. Go into it with the mindset that the focus is on the setting, not the story and look forward to the likes of pic related and you should have fun with it.

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Then why didn't they use any of it in Ultimate when they pulled music from both the game before and after it?

Because only the music rights holder can DMCA (supposedly, though the system is often abused). Similar shit happens all the time with Squeenix over Dragon Quest music. That's why no orchestral version of DQ music appeared in Smash. Squeenix doesn't technically own the music, the creator does, and he does with it as he wishes, even going so far to deny Squeenix the ability to use orchestral versions in their games, which is why DQXI has had to use MIDI versions up until DQXI S on the Switch.

youtube.com/watch?v=foEoeBNvwLc

>YFW you didn't play the inferior ugly Wii/New 3DS version and will play the DEFINITIVE EDITION and enjoy the beautiful anime aesthetic that has always been there since Xenogears

Many people consider it the best in the series. Many people also consider it the worst. It's an extremely divisive game, but for what it's worth, I think it has the best gameplay of all 3 Xenoblade games, but your mileage will vary on the story and music.

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>Elma approves of firing squad execution
Gets me every time

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Get new webms already.

okay

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They basically deconfirmed a XCX port from ever happening but after the DE announcement I'm still hopefull that we might one day, be stuck on a different planet again. If only because I don't have my WiiU with me anymore

>Why did Xenoblade X get shafted
because no-one cared enough to make sure it wasn't shafted. Even ARMS didn't get any music despite being a new release with an assist trophy and costumes, Codename STEAM got 5 tracks... but 4 were just Fire Emblem remixes and classified as such while it's sole remix and original track is thanks to the composer rearranging his own work. WarioWare Gold got nothing new despite having perfectly usable tracks and Spirits.

It's just incidental.

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Isn't it literally impossible to 100% XCX now because no online?

Played through of it on the Wii version I borrowed form somebody, bought the 3DS version but couldn't get into it due to all the downsizing they had to do to make it work (and my hand cramps from playing the 3DS for prolonged periods). Going to get this version too so I can replay it properly.
Wonder if it's going to have the Amiibo function the 3DS one did.

Codename STEAM was a fucking mistake.

Shut up, nerd.

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ARMS also doesn't have a stage. I doubt it's incidental that X got screwed, more like it wasn't worth the hassle.

But some of the decisions for Ultimate's soundtrack are just baffling, like Dark Samus' theme not being in the game.

Nobody wants to play a POTATO game

Everyone do want to play Xenoblade because it ties in to Xenoblade 2

That actually sounds like fun. I guess I'll give it a try. Just built a new PC, I should be able to run CEMU without too much trouble, I hope.

fuck you, it was a good game. Didn't make me waste hours doing persona shit like Three Houses.

There's just something about climbing mountains that look like you weren't supposed to be able to climb them in the first place that really gets my exploration itch going.
Ironically BotW didn't scratch that itch since Link's actual climbing ability made it apparent you are actually supposed to climb everything in sight.

I said new. How about new fanart then?

God Nagi was the biggest chad of all your party members

Do you believe everything shitposters say you absolute retard?

Dem's fighting words.

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Three houses is fucking shit too, why the fuck they didn't get Hidari back and instead got a shitty artist not even fujoshis want?

You could farm online currency to trade for crafting mats, which is a million times more lucrative since you could just burst bosses to shit online with 4 infinite overdrive autists.

The alternative would be reloading the map until the weather condition is right so the superboss spawns which either drops 1 of 20 needed telethia asses or he doesn't. Since it's jrpg endgame he most like won't drop telethia asses in 8 out of 10 fights

But I enjoyed the online regardless, even if it was really fucking barebones.

we STILL haven't got a single confirmation if monolith is doing this remaster, not even a website update, if this remaster has nothing to do with monolithsoft or with their main staff (the one doing the suppsed XB3) then it might be possible that whoever is doing the definitive edition might also do X switch. This lack of information on part of monolith (the only thing we got was an announcement tweet by @XenobladeJP) makes me think that the definitive edition might not even be that impressive, maybe they just won't change the story at all and the Bionis Shoulder is irrelevant somehow, I'm only expecting them to retcon how the space station looked but not why Klaus pressed the button anymore

Online is still there for now but the miiverse being shut down means you can't get 2 achievements. Everything else you can do and 100%, but don't expect the global nemesis to ever die again, too few people playing to kill it in time

>Not even 2k units sold on its first week in Japan.
Wonderful 101 managed to get 6K.

It's kind of hard to capture more footage when your Wii U is sitting in a box underneath your N64 and SNES. I could plug it back in, but it'd take forever. I'll probably do it if XCX 2 or XCX Definitive ever get announced.

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God, that's the biggest reason we need an X port. I forgot how great the Reward Tickets were, and gathering them is such a hassle now.

>I'm only expecting them to retcon how the space station looked but not why Klaus pressed the button anymore
Why Klaus pressed the button will be shown the same because it's Alvis' saying how it happened, and he the station computer at the time with no real grasp of what happened outside of the facts, so Klaus will still 100% be arrogant asshole Zanza in Alvis' eyes instead of what really happened since that's the only version of Klaus he knows about after gaining sentience as an Aegis

but botw fully delivers on the full range jump on the last pixel of stamina to reach the top like it was planned from the beginning
or autistically going between climbing and jumping to get up on shit during rain
climbing in botw scratches so many specific itches for me

it's precisely because Alvis is saying how it happened that it SHOULD show the new canon, he was hearing everything that went down, he knows that it wasn't just curiosity

>He's expecting this lazy port to make significant changes instead of just being the original game with new models

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It's possibly just a smaller group working on it, yeah. And Takahashi wasn't involved at all with XB3D - if all they're doing is prettying up the game on a new engine and retconning one scene they don't really need his oversight. The guy's said himself he gets bored of the same thing if he works on it too much. He'd probably rather plan the next new game than work on a remake.

>Citan
>Jin (xenosaga)
>Dunban
>Nagi
>Jin (xenoblade)
Who was the best glorious nippon steel user?

the reward tickets were objectively one of the best decisions any developer ever made regarding autistic endgame grinds
I played a lot of DxM lately and the majority of drops are random npcs in random maps that sometimes don't even carry the thing you were looking for. Getting anything you couldn't buy was a huge pain, there is like 7 layers of RNG stacked on top of each other, only to finally get the fucking SMG with 2 instead of 3 augment slots so you might aswell have gotten nothing

with more variety in bosses and slight rebalancing of the cost of tickets it would've been literally, literally perfect endgame content.

The only time that really worked for me was climbing the labyrinths from the outside to get on the ceiling and think "hahahaha fuck you I cheated your bitch ass!". Then they had to 'ruin' it by accounting for that fact and putting ceilings and multiple floors over the actual important routes forcing you to go inside and get lost anyway.

They've already shown the Bionis's Shoulder map that was cut from the original game, user.

Nagi, since he's also a robot.

I can't imagine how it wouldn't. The game just has too much going on and the Switch itself just isn't that strong.

I'm new to JRPGS I'm currently half way done with FE3H. I ended liking it a lot more then I was expecting I would and now I'm curious about Xenoblade C 2. Is it good? Would it be worth buying if I enjoyed FE?

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Citan would outDPS you omega weltall on food if he gets his sword that's literally SSS tier in terms of powerlevel bullshit
nagi is still my favorite though, if you decline his invite to BLADE often enough he becomes part awkward part dad territory and tries to guilt trip you.

I might misrember, but if you decline often enough I believe he straight up stops talking to you.

All they had to do is make you need less rare materials for the high end augments and it would've been perfect. Imagine only needing 16 of a material for an XX augment instead of 48. After a couple of hours of helping online you buy yourself an augment instead of having to optimize your farming method and put on a podcast.

>exclusive FIRST look at Xenoblade Definitive Edition in handheld mode!

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Yes people, I'm sure Nintendo decided to close the direct with XBDE announcement because it was just a port with no new features added

Why is this fanbase full of pessimistic retards?

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smugbot

It's the easiest and most beginner friendly Xenoblade. The other 2 are much more difficult (combat wise). I think it's a fantastic starting point, though, in my opinion, it is the weakest of the 3 overall.

He doesn't stop talking to you but he starts using ambiguous questioning to interpret your answers as "yes I will join"/"no I won't refuse" and puts you in a But Thou Must loop.

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>Citan would outDPS you omega weltall on food if he gets his sword that's literally SSS tier in terms of powerlevel bullshit
He would actually sit it out because it's a boss fight and Citan is a cunt

Smugbots

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If you decline Nagi like 5 times he tries to trick you by asking if you don't want to not join BLADE or something like that and traps you in a loop where he keeps claiming you mean yes with your refusal until you give in to him

We need an X sequel where the Wrothians find their sacred armor and it looks like Nia's outfit. The Nopon have their Monado, after all.

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Blade Jin, he was so over the top in his heh nothing personal kid ways and way of the blade it was glorious. Just like Malos was 200% hammy and over the top.

He'll 'accidentally' cause the boss to get powered up or somebody to get killed in the process.
Like 70 percent of Xenogears' problems are caused by Citan being a subtle cunt by not helping or making things worse.

>I'm sure I have no idea what you're talking about
I don't know why but that always made me laugh.

Her feet are cute. :3

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You are now aware that Nagi was able to get Cross stuck in a logic loop because he/she was a J-body with no personality when they activated it

>somebody actually paid for this

>concept art is literally just a touched up still of the 3D model
>looks different from new models likely designed by an actual artist beforehand
Go figure
Be skeptical of XB1 concept art you see, anything with that soft look that was pulled from the art book is touched up versions of the 3D models

The story would change in that Shulk would never go on his journey

It's not actually confirmed that Cross is a J-body, but highly likely.

But if Cross is a J-body, you're the "soul" controlling them, just like the rest of the mims are controlled remotely. The reason Cross is so good is because you're special.

It’s weird considering how overflowing with love XB2 was, especially post launch
I mostly wonder if this DE will get DLC or if all the new stuff will be there at launch/FreeLC

Xenoblade X has branded me in a really weird way. Like no matter when and where, something will always remind me of it and make me want to pick it up again.

Played Astral Chain, World down the shitter, Project Noah, Ark, stuck on a different planet
Played Daemon X Machina, robots,
ais, humanity was dead all along or was it, world to shit, stuck on a different planet

I mean I know japs love crossing religion and sci fi and there are probably billions of space ships titled ark, and maybe its less about the game and more about a time period that was more enjoyable to be in and I'm just desperate

wouldn't be surprised if they had to rush the release so they could hit the holiday window so the switch would have a christmas title

atleast that would explain the gachashit and the fucking amount of menuing to shuffle your trash rolls around because how else would you be able to climb the vines you were climbing before but HIGHER

Same. It's my 2nd favorite game of all time, 1st being Terraria. I'm gearing up for a 4th playthrough, this time using the meme knife set that deals a billion damage.

I don't want many changes. They are giving us Bionis Shoulder, so new area, npcs, monsters, quests,etc in that area. That's plenty for me. Only "change" I really care about is marking quest npcs on your map. I had to use a guide just to find what time and place to hand in my quests. It was stupid and annoying.

Why would I like a game I liked to be significantly changed? Go pretend FF7 Remake isn't shit.

It's a remaster

Can you even get these things easily without the online mode? Last I played the game was years ago and most of the materials were better farmed from the online bosses if I remember right.
If I play it again I need to look up cheat files to just get all the crafting materials since they will be used for glamour anyway.

do one with minimalistic interface. my third run was basically no interface at all. it's day and night in comparison, they really wanted to make sure you don't get lost, but navigating using landmark, waterfalls and territorial rotbart while sawano is blasting ass in the background is a completely outerworldly experience

is cemu worth a shit yet? I need to waste another 400 hours on this game soon

Its good but it can be overwhelming. Starts pretty slow and then gets great halfway through and doesn't stop. The battle system is complex and the tutorials only show up once (so take a picture if you can). Great game but definitely requires a lot of patients. If you are willing to give it the time you wont be disappointed.

Why didn't I enjoy 2 nearly as much as 1? I just could not fucking care about the characters. The combat was better but the whole plot felt . . . lame. Every now and then it got really dark, but there was so much cheesy anime bullshit. Hell, it only really got good when it went full sci-fi and connected to 1. Oh, and field skills were absolute cunt trash.

It's not easy, but it's possible. Honestly, just use gecko and cheat them in. You've already beaten the game, no shame in making your entire party wear swimsuits.

CEMU is great. But it really depends on your computer if you can run it. If you built it this decade, it should run XCX fine. It's not perfect, but the graphical errors are down to a minimum. I did my 3rd playthrough on CEMU over a year ago, so it should still work as good as always.

I agree on everything but the combat. Really could not care for matching colors bullshit and that shitty flowchart. Playing Melia was more difficult than combat in 2, and the absolutely abysmal art variety really shows later on when you get multiple rare blades.

>so it's going to look like shit in handheld mode?
I really really hope they work this. I just want it 720p in handheld

>but there was so much cheesy anime bullshit
1 was filled with just as much cheesy anime bullshit, you just didn't realise because the artstyle was shit and not as weebish as 2's obviously is

I think part of that is because a lot of the game does stick with you. Things like sidequests having different endings based on your decisions, the way that the world unfolds so there's always some "gotcha"/jumpscare you never forget, etc. Even things like being able to run for miles in any directions and still find shit. I remember my first playthrough very vividly for a variety of reasons. I remember which quests I fucked up on and why, I remember which areas I snuck into way underlevelled, etc.

It definitely had a troubled development
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For instance, key staff members ended up being on BotW and 2's overall budget was actually more than X due to all the outsourcing to get the game done.

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The music in 1 was also better. While I Think is the best song in the entire series, and that shit will make a motherfucker cry. Meanwhile the designated "sad" songs for XC2 weren't very good and I didn't even tear up at Vandham's or Fan's deaths.

>Go pretend FF7 Remake isn't shit
It isn't it looks good

Whatever it is, is not a "reskin".

I don't think anybody will ever forget their first encounter with that giant robot hiding in that one lake.

That's a nice Ares 90 you've got there. Wanna come show me you're strongest attack?

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Didn't say it was

He never said you did

I ran into it when I was swimming and before I even had the Skells. Robotic asshole created a nice massacre as we couldn't get away from him fast enough.

for what purpose
it doesn't give you any new things to work with, it's just more stat jelly, no reason to work so hard for it

I just remembered standing in cauldron like 4 hours in and it just turned night so best theme started playing while a sense of "you shouldn't be here" dreaded upon me. The next moment it starts raining fire and panicking for shelter made me rush into some level 40 nibbas that were just as excited as I was. The insane sprint, moonjump and lack of fall damage was a genius decision, it could've broken the game to absolute shit

>Xenoblade 2's production was very close to collapsing at times.
[citation required]

Yeah, the great thing about Go-Rha the Iron Deity is is that he gets you 3 times

>Swim out to him and get massacred
>Come back when you have a skell, he OHKO's you
>Come back with an Ares 90, he has Ether reflect and kills you using your own laser

He has a 6:1 kill:death ratio. The only monster in the entire game with that big of a KD. The next closest has like 2:1.

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I never swam out to him on foot but I HAVE blown myself up because I forgot what augments you need to get around Reflect, so he's still gotten me 4-5 times. It's nuts.

I know what you mean. I was just kinda chugging along with extended breaks every so often because there wasn't much exciting about it. Sure you live on titans and the cloud sea is appealing in a way but instead of scaling the bionis the titans are like levels in SMB. There was a lot of room to have the Titans interact with each other, maybe instead of becoming a mascot Gramps could've been used to fly between Titans, adding a whole new layer of scale and interaction to the game instead of reducing them to SM64 paintings.
I was really hooked once you reach the world tree and morytha, all the scifi shit and ruins of modern cities thrusted my imagination into overdrive. Then it kinda ends. I loved Torna way more than I probably should, though.

1 was far greater then 2, both in story and characters. 2 was better then 1 for the lewd. That's literally it.
The remake looks garbage, but if the story stays untouched, we can overcome this adversity.

>general game feel
Very specific, ideas guy.

which is funny because when shulk and fiora entered 2, my first thought was "hey, they translate really well into HD"
I still think they do

You can never escape Go-Rha. He exists solely to cuck new 1st-time players. Truly one of the best designed mini-bosses in video game history.

maybe in early game but definitely not later on because damage scales off ridiculously

The story in Xenoblade 2 sucks for the most part. There's some cool events, lore,etc. But overall I didn't care about anything really. I don't like Rex or Pyra much, so don't care about the main character drama in the game either.

the "goofy anime weeb shit" was honestly the saving grace, Nia, Zeke, Tora and Poppi. I enjoyed Torna more, just wish it had better endgame than the dumb golden beasts.

2 is an incoherent mess. It has the bones to be something great, but it doesn't weave everything together effectively. By contrast, the first game is largely nothing special but it's very tightly put together and has just enough Xeno DNA to spice it up.

In an ideal world, torna would've been the main game with the expansion being a short story how mythra ended up not being a stuck up bitch once she gets some shota cock
maybe then they wouldn't have to add the fucking requirement to do every single side mission to stretch out gametime and we could have more malos and who doesn't want all of the malos

The game would need to be completely rewritten from top to bottom for that to be a thing

>said a year ago all neptuniablade 2 asslickers would renounce their shit game as soon as the next neptuniablade was announced
Vindication always feels good

Anyone else prefer Torna to XB2 almost solely because the Tornan titan is more fun to explore? Having all the different settlements, seeing how it connects into itself, etc was appealing in a way most of base XB2 wasn't.

XB2 had the lamest environments out of the 3. 1 felt like i was actually on a titan, X was ONLY an exploration game, and 2 just felt boring to explore, alot of stretches of flat land didnt make me feel like i was on a titan

would've been worth it. loots of room to elaborate on mythras guilt and suffering instead of HENSHIN into pyra. Maybe Adam could be more than cool prince dude who everybody sucks off for being a JRPG protag above the age of 17. Jin/Lora shipping. Malos. Introduce new mechanics as Blade and Driver get more in sync with each other for more combo potential instead of beaming friendship into you for stats gain. There was this whole Siren thing where you could go full retard with the sci-fi. Granted they do in XC2 but Mechs are way cooler than a space needle. Could've added pilotable Siren or Mechs in general
Or the other way around and show the birth of Titans, the establishment of culture and religion and the inevitable corruption of it since it is a xeno game

In hindsight it's retarded to have an autistic fit after the game is out to suggest changes but since Titans are only map select stand ins anyway and the main game has barely any meaningful writing to it anyway
also torna had likeable characters

PC release when

I'm not buying a disfunctional -cough- handheld -cough- console for this & Breath of the Cell Shading

>PC release when
never

my main problem is that blades just standing around until they do specials is the most retarded shit. Like join the fight or atleast transform into the weapon or do SOMETHING. Why are you not doing special attacks all the time. also don't respond to shitty obvious bait my drug induced hissyfit is more important

>Even though you have less party members than X you have 2 more characters on the field to render
>on a system and game that will already regularly face slowdown

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Seriously just look at all these posts. These same people before the nintendo direct would have argued tooth and nail there was more to their game than shitty waifubait. Now that they have a new game to look forward to they have dropped the pretense.

you have 6 characters in Main and in Torna, user. It's been a while but I remember Torna looking and running pretty well compared to launch, didn't the last update include a perfomance patch

We know Takahashi already works on the next Xeno, with him at the head of the first studio. XC1De is most likely don by Monolith's new studio to train the new recruits, Monolith almost doubled in size since XC2's development and success.

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>he believes monolith's growth has anything to do with xenocringe instead of their work on zelda

Have any of you ever played Spore? The end of the game consists of getting to the center of the galaxy and there you can meet an alien that gives you the staff of life that instantly terraforms and creates life in a planet, what if they do something similar for Xenoblade 3 and they reveal that Alvis had gone to live in the center of the galaxy after he recreated the universe. I got this idea after watching the ending of Xenoblade 1 again and noticing that the center of the galaxy was glowing green just like Alvis

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To be fair he has that high of a ratio because you one and done him and never bother to come back since he doesn't drop anything unique any other random xe-dom can't drop. If Telethia and Pharsis weren't a designated autism farm at endgame and you didn't just Blossom dance them to death every 10 seconds they'd probably have a higher k:d ratio. No one catches you off guard as many times as lake man though

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That's probably just a reference to the Wave Existence from Xenogears being a green spirit of sorts. Alvis is essentially the WE of Xenoblade, but your idea is pretty nice.
Speaking of XC3, I wonder if Takahashi is currently working on, and developing said game. I assume he doesn't have much focus on the XC1 remaster since it's essentially a completed game. Hell, his wife might be working on the story since she changed her Twitter header to screenwriter.

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Isn't that already what happened in XC1..? The staff of life was basically the Monado 3, and Shulk used it to recreate the world. As to where Alvis went, probably wherever the universe for XC3 will take place.

The Torna Titan itself does a pretty good job of handling the scale and what not, so you feel like you're actually on a Titan. A lot of the environments in base XC2 needed a lot of work though, honestly.

I like how the theme of Mechonis Field feels so alien, somber, and extraterrestrial, but the actual battle theme is probably one of the most explosive tracks on the OST.

How did you get into xenoblade anons? what other games would you compare to? I'm tempting to buy 2

>That Melia tease
Fuck. They know. They're gonna hold off on revealing her until E3 or some shit.

If they know how much people love her, why do they always shove that shitbag Fiora in everything?

xenoblade series is very underrated. the guys making them love games and anime and it shows. personally my favorite is x in spite of its numerous flaws. but i love seeing each new game in the series and cant wait for the next.

I found Xeno 1 combat easier than the second one

>The Monado can't damage beings of the Bionis
>Yet it can cut Telethia, who are technically High Entia without issue before being upgraded to the Monado II
Why has nobody noticed this incoherency yet?

it can also kill animals, the only thing it can't harm is people

In the data mine for XC1, there was another cut location on the Mechonis that was removed from the disc entirely. I wonder if we'll see it in this remaster? I have no clue where it'd be, though.

You didn't actually play the game, did you?

"Creatures of the Bionis" are not a problem. You kill monsters from the Bionis all the goddamn time.

Homs, High Entia, and presumably Nopon and Giants cannot be hurt, because they're intelligent. Telethia are not intelligent.

Alvis said no hurt homs so the monado doesn't hurt homs

I wouldn't say it's necessarily an incoherency. Telethia/High Entia are technically Zanza's anti bodies, and aren't truly people. The animals aren't people either. I assume he specifically meant Homs, but hopefully it's retconned to make more sense from a thematic standpoint.

And Telethia are High Entia, so logically the Monado should be able to damage them as well. You could argue a Telethia possesses more intelligence than normal people since they possess telepathy, and to a degree foresight.

I saw some references to the first one on tvtropes, then watched some trailers and was blown away by the sheer concept/scale of the titans. Story turned out to be pretty special too.

Have you played XB1 user? They're not really "connected" per se, but I think playing both 1 and 2(particularly in order) makes a big difference.

The Monado can't hurt High Entia. You'd know this if you played the game, because you get attacked by High Entia assassins.

Telepathy and foresight are just abilities. They have nothing to do with intelligence.

>I assume he doesn't have much focus on the XC1 remaster since it's essentially a completed game
He had nothing to do with XB3D so he likely isn't very hands on with XBDE either. Production on Xenoblade X2 has probably started.

It's been years since I've played the game, user. I'm not going to recall every cutscene present when they easily equate to 10+ hours. You need to cope with the fact that XC2 has a better written plot.

>X2
Do X fans just forget how poorly it was received, relative to the other games?

I really think they're holding off on the X series until they've finished the mainline. Otherwise, what reason would there really be to remaster XC1 so it fits with XC2 in a better fashion? If Takahashi isn't setting things up for XC3, I'll be genuinely surprised. On another note though, XC3D was quite literally a simple port, whereas XC1D isn't. I think he might be supervising at best.

I already liked 2 more than 1. But you've forgotten gameplay, not story.

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>1 more point than XB2
>sold reasonably well on a console with no momentum
It's more like X haters exaggerate the game's flaws to comical proportions.

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Honestly it sold pretty well for a dead console. On top of the fact that Takahashi said he wanted to make a sequel. I'm sure it'll get the remaster treatment that fixes the issues people had with the original, and everything will be good. If anyone truly thinks X is dead for good, I don't know what to say. People are far too critical of the game, even with its glaring issues.

Thank you user, I have not

because the boys forgot their ether canisters

Doesn't matter since Takahashi and Koh Kojima want to make X2

>All this falseflagging and samefagging.

Welcome to Xenoblade threads, home of the some of the most autistic shitposters on Yea Forums

The game did very well for the fact it came out on a forsaken console, and was well received in general

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>I'm sure it'll get the remaster treatment that fixes the issues people had with the original
A remaster can't fix Sawano, "something about this planet", a boring story, customization that takes away uniqueness from party members, Elma getting credit for everything you do, and "Tatsu is food."

Even if they fix the art style and subtitles, the game isn't salvageable without being rebuilt completely from scratch.

Towards the end of the game was there any lore reason as to why there was suddenly weapons that could harm mechon without the monado?

Machina technology. Obviously they can destroy their own stuff.

the only answer is retconning shit in the sequel then releasing the prequel as a definitive edition with said retcons

the lategame weapons are mostly machina weapons, there are some that aren't and they still dont do shit to mechon, but you don't fight many in the ultra late game anyways.

Doesn't mean shit if Nintendo won't fund it

I'm sure as long as Monolith is contributing to the development of Nintendo properties like Zelda, they probably don't give care too much

>Sawano
Opinion, he's way off half the time, good the other half
>something about this planet
Takahashi wants a sequel, please look forward to it
>Boring story
True, no one disputes this
>customization that takes away uniqueness from party members
You want your character to be neutered and have no customisation? You can only fill one roll at a time so the others are fine
>Elma getting credit for everything you do
She's your boss and is the one depended on for all the story events and missions, makes sense she's the one praised, you're her lackey
>Tatsu is food
Gotta bite the bullet and learn to live with Lin going on about dinner every 5 minutes

And its theme is the best field theme in the game and the most under appreciated

Oh I gotcha. So why could Shulk use monado arts by the end of the game? Was it the inner monado shit?

Alvis is a computer that controls the universe. Zanza and Meyneth had administrative access to the computer. Zanza gave Shulk the same level of access.

it was the replicas, i hope they remove them from the game because having a replica that can do the same thing as the real thing without downsides is stupid, why would none of the other characters use them too

The Monado is only incapable of hurting "intelligent creatures" per its wielder's perception of "intelligence". After all, its limitations are purely from perception. Shulk did not see something as animalistic as a Telethia as an intelligent creature, so the Monado could cut them just fine.
I guarantee you that in terms of intelligence, a fucking Tirkin could outwit a Telethia. There's only the issue of telepathy and physical dominance to deal with.
And before you say some bullshit about Faced Mechon, the presence of a Homs (ergo something Shulk would recognize as intelligent) for a pilot is what made them uncuttable.

Hmmm okay this makes sense thanks. Never caught on to that.

Go-Rha is just something you come back to time and time again because you want revenge. He catches you off guard several times. Though him not having anything worth farming is a good point. He does have high level skell parts due to being a mecha enemy, but there are better sources for those.

The same way I got into Nier and Drakengard. They announced a new entry which looked really fucking cool so between announcement and release I binge the franchises
Xenoblade X turned me on so much, after beating XC I went and played gears and saga too

Sawano is subjective, and a lot of people appreciated the customization, so those points are pretty irrelevant. Everything else, I agree with. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if they remade X entirely with the vision Takahashi originally had in the art book. Like there being a primary protagonist instead of a self insert, and the setting being in New Tokyo alongside the Black Knight being an antihero figure. Then jump to X2, and so on.

>Game Feel

how did they make elma so sexy

not like they have many rpg studios to fall back on

>Sawano
I like his music. Only a couple of tracks were bad, and I've appreciated Sawano ever since Kill la Kill, so I have a soft spot for his music.

>Something about this planet
Not a flaw
>Boring story
The story was fantastic, and it kept me more engaged than either Xenoblade game. The plot was boring garbage, but the sidequests were 10/10.
>Customization that takes away from uniqueness
Who cares about party member individuality when party members are always useless in every Xenoblade game. At least X gives you 1 (one) whole useful party member in Irina. Did you forget how bad the party member AI is in the entire series?

As if Nintendo gives a shit when they've let Game Freak fuck up for 6 years straight now.

Reminder that XCX is the highest rated Xenoblade game. For every 1 person that hates it, there are 3 that absolutely loved it.

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soon the Definitive Xenoblade will bring down the unworthy X from that throne

>the unworthy X

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STUCK ON A DIFFERENT PLAAAAANET

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and it deserves it. can't think of a better sci-fi rpg or an rpg that went this wild with the sidequests
and I dont mean quality but direction wise. One quest you're in an infected water plant, then theres a manon genocide, then elma bullies you for saying your an elma person and who isnt, in the next alley someone just splats in front of you and you're figuring out if its suicide or murder, then something about pizza, then some potheads who despise being alive with the very essence of their being

>I wonder if we'll see it in this remaster?
Since it was removed from the disc entirely I doubt it. The shoulder area was far more developed so that's probably why it's getting added back in.

>You need to cope with the fact that XC2 has a better written plot.
That came out of nowhere. And no it doesn't.

I got Xenoblade 1 on 3ds before the remake was revealed and now idk if I want to play it or wait for the remake. Should I wait or nah?

I'm sick of that motherfucker shulk always carting around the old Monado. He should be using his own Monado.

the monado can cut whoever Alvis wants it to cut like said
for fuck's sake Alvis was even THERE when Shulk first fought a Telethia

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I always interpreted it as shulk and fiora being outside the passage of fate due to being killed and resurrected

Is that a doujin? I want to see Elma getting pounded.

The variety in X's sidequests is to its benefit. All of the big sidequest chains felt fresh, exciting, and unique. Even ignoring the affinity missions, there were some real memorable and amazing ones, like the long running one with the team that kept getting into trouble, getting hunted down by a ganglion and eventually killed in a cave in Sylvalum, or Professor B, or even the Definian harem quest.

I'd wait, Xenoblade 3D is the worst version anyway

It's a gag comic so it wouldn't have that kind of thing in it anyways.

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XCX SWITCH WHENNNNNNNNNNNNN I WANT THESE UPDATED ANIME FACES ON EVERYONE EXCEPT BEST GIRL

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I love X's artstyle so much, in spite of how X makes it look in 3D

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I was wondering if something closer to astral chain or code: vein would benefit the game.
but then the enviroment would look like absolute shit

Irina looks funky in 3D tho, just like every female character except Elma. Everyone’s eyes are just too damn wide apart

Explain? How would it look shit if they just change character faces and stuff? It’s already designed to look as kino as possible

I forgot half the sentence fuck
I was wondering if some celshading like in the mentioned games would help.

I would hope a port/rerelease could afford to mess with the faces, that's practically the single largest change they're making to XBDE.

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>Tfw we get a Mechonis Shoulder location
Who knows, though? I assume this remaster has been in the works since Torna was completed, or shortly after that. Including another relatively decent sized location shouldn't take too much time.

>X gets remade entirely
>Models are done properly to resemble the designs in the art book
>Setting is in New Tokyo as originally planned
>We have a proper protagonist instead of Cross, and the Mimeosome mystery is repurposed elsewhere in the plot
>More focused plot
>Better Skell combat, and overall control
>New OST
I can dream. Either that or revamp the plot of XCX1 entirely for a remaster, and go from there. All I know is, X will get its time in the sun eventually.

The music in the series is so good (didn't play X so I can't comment on that). I'm almost tempted to get the soundtracks on my phone, something I never thought I would do

If by game feel you mean fixing how floaty and glitchy the characters move I'm with you brother.

also let me walk straight for fucks sake
in every xenoblade, emulated or not, i would always kinda nudge to the left or the right
it drives me nuts when it happenend in xc2 because until then I thought my PC controller was just shit

I always new Elma had a thing for humans

Shulk fights the High Entia assassins with the Monado 1 and it doesn't work against them. There's no reason it shouldn work on telethia if they're the same beings.

Irina looks perfect. I love people with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

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I kinda wish they would make the Monado useless against all creatures on the Bionis. Give Shulk some other weapons like the junk sword for the journey besides the Monado.

X's plot doesn't need a revamp. It's perfect as is. What it needs is a sequel. Imagine if Star Wars had 5+ years between releases, and no one new if there'd be a sequel from A New Hope.

Bros I only played X and I didn't like it but the remaster has me interested in the series again. Do you have to play 1 to know what's up in 2, or is 2 an ok place to start?

I'd say wait and play 1 before 2, but people will probably tell you they can be played in any order

1 and 2 are connected but it's more like a diverging point in their overall 'mythos' if that makes sense. It'll be like 50 hours until you find anything out about that diverging point in either game.

X's plot is shit and you're in the minority

Are they the same beings though? I think its safe to assume that if birdperson mutates into a mindraping laserdragon the barcode scanner in the Monado will pick up some sort of difference

>Autism

They're slightly joined at the very end. Think of it like 2 circles that barely touch.

X's plot is perfect as an opening act to a trilogy. I'm not judging it on its own just like you wouldn't judge the first Lord of the Ring's book on its own, or the first Star Wars movie on its own.

you know thats more fair i just wish a few more things got explained instead of most of it being left on a cliff hanger cause im usually fine with sequel bait

That's fair, as the first in a series of games X is an alright opening plot, but it really just leaves far too much in the air with Lao, Dark Knight man and muh planet. Games lucky sidequests are so much better and make up for a lackluster main plot, and the exploration is top tier

you did unlock this cutscene, didnt you??

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GOD I fucking wish

IS THAT A NIPPLE?

OH MY GOD MY AAAAADDDDSSSS

Well, yeah, it's kinda bad as a standalone thing, but I'm just assuming that all the cliffhangers will be followed through on. Come 2030, if there is no sequel to X, I'll gladly call the plot bad, but I'll still defend the sidqeuests, worldbuilding, lore, and etc to death.

I just hope I'm right and there will come a day when we get XCX2.

MONADOOOOOOOOO

user cover the nipples for Christ sake, think of poor Hiro, do you want him to go hungry?

suddenly i dont want to buy a 4channel pass anymore

>Mythra's uncut while Pyra is
>Nia's got a dog dick, not a barbed cat dick
Still though. I am jealous. Brigid is packing some heat. Figuratively and literally in terms of body proportions.

Isn't Morag supposed to be flat? Why is she so stacked?

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Just here to say that I have to give XC2 more credit than I have been, it was fucking horrendous for almost 100 hours but it really did get good in chapter 7 like people said it would. Rex loses the fucking retarded outfit, the writing gets immensely better, the combat finally opens up and lets you use the fucking mechanics the way you're supposed to although that may be because i'm playing on custom difficulty with party gauge and special gains increased, and the world becomes way more interesting. Went from a low 4/10 game to a solid 7/10 at least in the span of a few hours.

bullshit DMCA's happen all the time
EA France once claimed the Meet the Spy video for TF2

>100 hours to get to chapter 7

please delete this post

I spent a lot of time avoiding the story because I hated the writing.

you still need to progress to unlock areas

Didn't need to progress for most of the quests I had.