Don't people grow out of gameplay this simplistic?
What is the appeal beyond anime and waifus?
Are jRPGs actually just VNs with mind numbing grind?
JRPGs
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> Beeporz seething that his WRPG genre has always been irrelevant trash that nobody cared about which is why CRPG died and were replaced with Open World action adventures with slight RPG elements
Based SquareSoft killing WRPG's since 1986
Not every jrpg is anime, nor do they all have waifus.
Stop generalising and play FF6 now
Xenoblade 1 and X is actually good
Really your statement mostly applies to just Persona and Pokemon
it's a simplistic, relaxing style of gameplay that has cute boys and a good story sometimes
are you implying wrpg gameplay is not simplistic? Because it is
jrpgs have great music and fun mechanics and dont bother with realism or stupid mechanics that only exist to make the world seem more real
This I haven't played persona in a few months and forgot how comfy it is. I can play it while I'm eating or smoking.
As i get older i find i am getting bored with games where the solution to facing a challenge is to get higher numbers.
Its boring. Having the exact same shit for hundreds of hours kf gameplay sucks.
I wish rpg mechanics would die. I wish difficulty selection would die. Every game should just require the player to get better if they hit a wall.
Difficulty selection ruined design in my opinion. If its not a lazy shitty difficulty increase(enemies become bullet sponges and drop nothing now!) Then the designer and AI people now have to waste resources building several levels every time they want to make one level
Also thats anothee thing. Open worlds are cancer and we should return to linear crafted level based gameplay. Open worlds are just padding. I blame mid 2000s and early 2010s reviewers who kept reviewing games factoring for fucking playtime
Just play fighting games and stop wanting other genres to change just because you developed autism
>7 individual actions you can make with one character
>Some of those actions open up to menus filled with other actions
Most WRPG's have 5 abilities max you can do, and you spam the same ones for 99% of the game.
>"waaahh I don't like this thing but I'm too retarded to explain why I don't like it so I'll use buzzwords to call it bad"
these threads need to be banned on sight
Not every jrpg is persona shit
P5s writing was so bad. I get what they were trying to do with the cast they wanted this group of misfits and outcasts but instead we got a bunch of autistic chuunis with noncompliants whk mindlessly hate adults and are never challenged on their views.
I really hated how bloodthirsty the crew were for everyone.
A lot of jrpgs can be completed within minimal grinding. Grinding is often just a mechanic to compensate or a lack of strategy or to avoid mastering the mechanics
Playing them on higher difficulties changes the game completely for me, you either get lucky or you dont, even if you did everything right. That sort of challenge used to annoy me but no i crave it
Does anyone have a chart of must play jrpgs? I have a hacked 3ds and a hacked vita if that matters
chart of must play jrpgs:
play on hard mode faggot
Dragon Quest V, Chrono Trigger, Super Mario RPG, Breath of Fire III, Final Fantasy VIII, Xenogears, Persona 4 Golden
based
>simplistic combat but now its grindy
wow great
I grew out of it after my first pokemon game at the age of 10.
Seems like I have a headstart over Yea Forumsirgins
>What is the appeal beyond anime and waifus?
nothing
>Are jRPGs actually just VNs with mind numbing grind?
yes. or low budget action games with VN sequences
name 1 jrpg that doesnt have anime or waifus
>name 1 jrpg that doesnt have anime or waifus
why
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
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Ever wonder why you stopped seeing those wRPG vs jRPG images? Come see how much of a faggot wRPGfag is
uuoi should bplay real wrpgs like sekiro it hasa the vling lang glic g clang anss a jump button.
>wRPG combat
trash genre, no wonder it's irrelevant
>simplistic
>when all the most popular western games in the last decade have literally been point and click simulators
What, exactly, makes these any more simple than your average single-player FPS, which have been the most popular games in the last decade?
Its a classic style, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Not all JRPGs have the same systems
They may all have the same interface but the underlying systems are very different
>argument from popularity
whats your point
literally who?
everything I don't like is beepzorz
obsessed
Hell, even XCOM has deeper combat mechanics than jRPGs, and has about the same roleplaying depth too.
If it was made by a japanese studio it would be called a jRPG
Western role playing games have evolved to include positioning and a lot of other mechanics if they are turn based, jRPGs haven't changed since pokemon
take a seat beep
>Postitioning
Literally every single RtWP game is played by buffing the frontliners and mindlessly mobbing the enemy.
>ANOTHER east vs west thread
you fucks are legitimately obsessed at this point, it's scary
Simplistic as opposed to what?
>wRPGfag is a fat dick lover
holy shit lol
>implying weebs wouldn't be the biggest degenerates when doxxed
it's over beep, you're a laughing stock now
Wasn't positioning was something important in Xenoblade X? That and targeting bodyparts. It's been a while, and by WiiU is on the fritz.
beepzorz has never played a jRPG in his life
You could have posted a better example, Divinity is shallow as fuck.
They're fun.
Do you actually believe everyone that doesn't like jRPGs is beep?
obsessed
Isn't Xenoblade that simplistic videogame where you only have control over one character in your party?
Demon waifus are still waifus
It's okay that you don't enjoy those types of games anymore but you're being quite immature by declaring that they don't have any value just because you don't like them anymore
My favorite JRPG was Baten Kaitos and it had fairly unique gameplay.
You can control any party member in XBX.
They're just games that take out the reaction time based skill most games have in favor of minor strategy and memorization of enemy abilities. They can serve as a nice change of pace from the stress of other kinds of games.
Just play Fortnite or LoL if you need your reaction time zoomer fill.
Sometimes I wonder if people who make posts like these even played Persona 5
Good JRPGs are usually a case of ”better than the sum of its parts”, the gameplay usually isn’t *that* good, but when it is mixed with an well-paced story, good soundtrack, memorable locations and characters etc., it all comes together in a way that really keeps you playing on.
But yea, it’s also a genre full of missteps and bad games, made unbearable by horrible padding and overused stereotypes. While I like JRPGs when they are actually good, it’s one of those genres where I wouldn’t touch a mediocre product even with a ten-foot pole. I can play mediocre action games or shooters because I know that they are usually finished before they get boring, but JRPGs are always so long that they have be good from start to finish to be worth playing.
They didn't
>t. never played a SMT game
>"p-positioning as a core mechanic is innovative!!"
>Valkyrie Profile 2 did it back in 2006
>the asia-only Arcturus did it back in 2000
LOL!!!
Yeah that much is obvious.
>WRPG
>Gameplay
>Depth
Now we also have to deal with a literal reddit defense force too since Beep himself is obviously scared shitless of being actually doxxed after shitting this place for a year or so.
SMT gameplay isn’t difficult, it just has larger consequences if you fuck something up during a battle.
jrpgs are bad because you literally need to grind grind grind, grinding every dungeon and before bosses or you don't stand a chance
it's just bad game design
Literally Git Gud
Well they are fun which you don't seem to know much about
Well every single JRPG since the PS3 gen has loli or moe waifu. JRPG has died after this gen. Games like Grandia, LoD, Seiken Densetsu, Suikoden, FF, Star Ocean, Jade Cocoon, Vabdal Hearts, Valkyrie profile and so on are dead. Enjoy your Fatlus or CompileHeart shitty waifu simulators.
grinding =/= git gud
Well to get that kind of overkill party, you'll have to carefully min max the class system and gear. Also prefights buff. It's not auto attack like FF15.
Are you retarded?
Are you suggesting that you need to grind in Persona 5?
>It's not auto attack like FF15.
nobody praises FF15's combat
Well it's less in your face than now. Atelier serie sells on Ryza's thighs only.
PST is considered as a good RPG for its writing and dialogue trees. Everyone knows that.
>Well to get that kind of overkill party, you'll have to carefully min max the class system and gear
No you don't, and even minmaxing in Pathfinder's context is laughably simplistic.
Here's some much lower level gameplay than Spawn of Rovagug, notice any difference?
>goosebumps choose your scare shit where your choices barely impact the story in the first place
Wow
>all those prebuffs
>not somehow set up specifically to support your point
your post is retarded user
no, the writing is on the level of infinite jest and moby dick
>as many words as a novel with none of the depth
>this is somehow a good thing
imagine being as easily impressed as wRPG-kun
Why are so many posters here and elsewhere "rising up" about turn-based now, despite Persona 5's sales success clearly indicating that it still sells to large excesses of consumers?
word count is not correlated to quality
Bitterness mostly.
I never got the war between JRPGs and WRPGs myself since some of my favorite games of all time fall into both.
I've been in the mood for a JRPG lately, and have Epic Battle Fantasy 4 and 5 in my library. Should I play 4 now, or wait until 5 gets ver2.0?
>Stacking a bunch of autolearned buffs like in any D&D based game is somehow rocket science and incredibly deep gameplay
This is what all RTwP games boil down to, prebuff and then watch a 10 second autobattle, at any point in the game.
Not even a hilariously unbalanced game like Kingmaker managed to change that.
Lost odyssey
turn based is fine, just not if it done like 90% of jRPGs do it
RTwP being garbage doesn't make pokemon turn based good
What are some games with Barbers?
No particular reason, I just really like Barbers, haha
wrpg-kun has been having a mental break down since he was exposed.
Admittedly I never got into WRPGs much compared to JRPGs, but then I guess it's more so I didn't really get into the CRPG subset. Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance, I played and I beat despite being a dumbed down hack-and-slash. Baldur's Gate itself? Too many other games in my backlog to make me safely approach without fearing i'd fuck it up or something.
It's just East v West tards not realizing that good shit doesn't have a consistent nation of origin
You wouldn't need to grind excessively if you were good
I mean how many JRPGs are just straight up pure turn-based nowadays that actually see mainstream success?
Anything is better than RTwP, even Pokemon combat.
only pokemon and persona. retards still think jRPG = turn based when more wRPGs are turn based or a shitty RTwP
The actual Baldur's Gate games play nothing like Dark Alliance did. They're pretty good if you grab a few mods to make the AI better like Sword Coast Stratagems.
Reminder that this is the guy who keeps posting these threads lmao
>Wizardry 1-8
>Jagged Alliance 2
>Realms of Arkania 1/2
>X-COM
>Might and Magic 3-8
>Bard's Tale 1-3
>Pools of Radiance
>King's Bounty
>Silent Storm
holy shit jRPG shit won't be better than those in a million years.
They are.
People hate on "movie games" yet this trash is even worse
Yeah I know they're far different, but you'd be surprised how much influence it had for console gamers that weren't so PC-focused growing up. My sister got hyped about the BG3 announcement until I told her "no we played a dumbed down action game spinoff."
At least it wasn't Brotherhood of Steel.
They are literally pieces of art we use to help us experience things an relate with oneanother in order to deal with our existential dread, OP. A breath of fresh air from the harsh realities of Clown World, if you will
>X is actually good
No, it's really not.
>actually talking with beepzorz seriously
You're arguing with a literal redditor
how are you obsessed so much about some random doxxed guy who shares my dislike for jRPGs?
>if i don't post my infographics no one will know it's me
>no argument but
>b-beepzzorz
>or
>r-reddit!!
pathetic
>argue with me!
>argue with me!
Just like you did in the thread where you got doxxed beepy
Nobody is going to argue with you after we saw an extent of your autism
Stop the genocide of turn-based RPGs
>jRPG fans need to paint anyone disagreeing with them as some type of degenerate redditor to distract from shitty game design
LOL
>recommending final fantasy as an example of good gameplay
Only Xeno 2 is good. The rest is pretty mediocre.
You have insanely terrible taste if you think P5 was well written. Read a book you cancerous maggot
SMT, SMT2, SMT3, the entire SaGa franchise, Raidou 1 & 2
What's that beepy, feeling upset over the fact every single shitpost thread you will ever create will be completely railroaded by people who know about you?
You deserve it by being an obnoxious faggot.
Fucking based and savage.
None. JRPG is our most hated genre for a reason.
literally nothing he said is wrong
>he
Adorable
This. The JRPG released now are the worst in the entire genre. Literally all JRPG now is baby moeshit.
Weebs are a mystical beast. The dislike for JRPG is massive on Yea Forums and yet weebs like to point at this one boogeyman.
This!
Literally everyone agrees the JRPG genre is dead forever and all JRPGs now suck. There is no one debating these posts. Literally every JRPG now is Compile Heart and Fatlus shitty waifu simulators.
Us oldschool JRPG fans will sadly have to side with based ol' Beepy on this one. You're all alone on this, weebs.
Oh wow you sure slaughtered those wolves padre.
The problem is that games used to be made by nerd for nerds. Now it's made by the soulless for the geeks.
And as we all know geeks are just stupid nerds. That is why you are a faggot mr.OP
>our
Don’t lump me with you, faggot.
Weebs be like
>Doug Walker
Jesus Christ
JRPGs were never good, combat's always braindead. The only RPGs worth bothering with are SRPGs
what are some RPGs where the MC gets so triggered he develops dissociative identity disorder?
Old JRPGs are some of the best games ever made. Final Fantasy 4 through 7, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana 3, the list goes on and on. The genre has devolved so much over the years that it's almost funny in a very sad way.
JRPGs are for stressed out old men and retards, I never understood the appeal till I worked a job I absolutely hated. I still don’t understand the people who are actively engaged by the genre.
This. Now every JRPG now is total shit hated by everyone on this site. JRPGs after 6th gen are not real games. They're waifu simulators.
>Ultima 9
Oh fuck off.
The amount of bait in this post is almost impressive in a way.
Literally not a positive word about JRPGs in this thread. It's now the most hatred genre on Yea Forums.
At least its true in the fact that all JRPGs suck now and the genre has fallen so far its not even funny. Like have you played the recent JRPGs? They're just...bad. Like, literally, in every way.
Eh, not really. If you go out of your way to look at nothing but the bad stuff, of course you’ll find mediocrity.
beepz having a mental breakdown again I see
>BEEPZORZ BEEPZORZ BEEPZORZ BEEPZORZ BEEPZORZ BEEPZORZ
We just hate JRPGs dawg, you don't need to cry about your boogeyman here!
Alright, enough bait. What JRPGs are you guys playing right now? I’m playing Tales of Vesperia and FFX.
>Cunny
Raidou 2
>Don't people grow out of gameplay this simplistic?
I did when I was like, 14?
There is no reason for JRPGs to exist anymore. They were vehicles for types of story and interaction that weren't provided by other games
Now those types of stories and interactions are provided by other games. It's a pointless genre kept alive by japs who are *horrible* at video games and don't desire challenge/don't play multiplayer or anything
Several of Yea Forums‘s favorite games are JRPGs, though.
I was going to replay bahamut lagoon but haven't gotten around to it yet
Ni no kuni, I thought it would be the first out of 30 jrpgs I’ve tried in my life that I would actually finish but I’m loosing motivation 28 hours in, I have no idea why I keep playing this shitty genre thinking I’m going to like it.
Not anymore. We grew up and play real games now.
This. So much this. JRPG is a obsolete genre and is getting more and more pushback from our community for being outdated and stale.
We don;t play those outdated games anymore. See .
Weeb's thread derailment got BTFO by this based post telling the truth about the shittiness of JRPGs.
That was the past kiddo. Now we see how shitty and outdated the genre is and have moved onto more intelligent genres.
>Not anymore. We grew up and play real games now
You and your several spilt personalities don’t count as people, you know. Off the top of my head, Yea Forums loves
>TWEWY
>KH1/KH2FM
>Mother 3
>Earthbound
>SMT
>FF Tactics
>Tales of Vesperia
>Nier
>Persona
All of them JRPGs.
Why do you insist on using the plural "we"?
>Several of Yea Forums‘s favorite games are JRPGs
that's disturbing. What happened to this place?
probably hivemind from reddit
We realized how shit meme games those are. See Those games were only fun to us when we were 14.
Because everyone on this thread happen to share my thoughts.
We don't like them anymore. Thats just Discord trannies forcing it.
You’re either a newfag or you’ve seriously lived under a rock throughout all these years.
>two autists count as the entirety of Yea Forums
You guys ready for the best JRPG ever, with a story that doesn't revolve around kids and evil adults?
Ok someone give me a recommendation of a jrpg with a good enough story to power through, most of the stuff that gets recommended feels like playing through a bad anime or children’s cartoon.
it's going to be awful
>>TWEWY
Meme controls and weeb battle system.
>>KH1/KH2FM
Loldisney
>>Mother 3
Le so emoshuinel xddd. Literally the Rick and Morty of games
>>Earthbound
See above
>>SMT
Same uninteresting battle system as every JRPG except you do slightly more.
>>FF Tactics
See SMT
>>Tales of Vesperia
The concensus was that Tales died after the 2D games. Sorry.
>>Nier
See Mother 3
>>Persona
See SMT
Yakuza 7
>nothing of actual substance said
Also
>weeb battle system
The fuck does this even mean?
he's retarded because clearly smt and fft have different battle systems
Absolutely
Fucking
Based
Crpgs were always unappealing garbage.
I can't wait!
Ok I’ll play yakuza next, does yakuza 0 have a good story also? I’m not starting with 7
get Baba is You
GADWIN THE KNIGHT OF DIGHT
Yikes!
Lmao!!
the combat itself is really boring but the slice of life and romance stuff is fun if you're into that
Samefag
TWEWY’s postgame. Shit is fun as fuck.
Jesus you're a nigger you know that, all your arguments aren't actually arguments and what the fuck is a weeb battle system
>combat is braindead and boring!!!
Says the guy who plays the game on the easiest difficulty and grinds every level and wonder why the games feel so easy.
Dragonquest 11 is the best jrpg releases recently in my opinion and everyone should play it
That's not even what I said, retard. I'm saying that anyone who actually played the game would know that plot summary was completely wrong.
I'm starting to think that you haven't even played it and just hate on it because of what you think it's like
Retard.
Arc Rise Fantasia, one of the best turn based rpg battle system I've ever played. Too bad the story is Tales of tier bad
Why do the hardcore anti JRPG guys always come off so retarded?
Because it's one guy samefagging like crazy and that one guy is retarded.
Makes sense.
And he calls us pathetic. What a fag.
hey, FF5 is good
>It‘s just one guy r-right guys?
>y-yes!
absuuurd
chrono cross
>trying this hard
Whatever you say, bud.
xcom is just fire emblem with guns
none of these posts are mine, dumb weeb
>phoneposter
And this is supposed to help your credibility how again?
I‘m showing how desperate you are clinging to a boogeyman to distract from the shittyness of jrpgs :)
>phoneposter thinks he has the right to talk
Uh huh. Whatever you say, bud.
just stop responding weebshitter LOL
I still have the tab to that thread open. It was fucking hilarious watching him go online to delete that account when people found out about it. Here's the link to it, by the way
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literally all me
Keep seething, dumb phoneposter.
based
They're fucking easy and simple, what do you expect from Yea Forums, their taste is boring
Holy shit, this is too good.
Enjoy your
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it was very effective!
LOL
I stopped playing this shit at 12 after getting bored of pokemon
>dumb phoneposter doesn’t even know what the fuck he’s talking about
Should’ve figured.
FFX-2. And I still need to get around to finishing Octopath.
>he’s still trying
lmao
What are some turn-based rpgs with this feel?
Based shitposter.
>cute boys
Truer words have never been spoken.
SaGa and Suikoden series
JRPG combat can still be fun, and when it’s done well, it’s really good