why did this franchise never become as big as resident evil?
Why did this franchise never become as big as resident evil?
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This deserves reboot
3 came out.
Dinosaurs aren't scary.
universal owns the rights to dinosaurs
implying zombies are
Budget. That and the fact it went downhill fast after the first game.
it wasn't for plebs
They don't look repulsive but the thought of one trying to kill you is scary.
While the first one was a decent RE clone with interesting level design and puzzles, but you can just always run past the dinos and ignore them completely which can get boring in the long run.
The second one fixed that by having you actually engage with them but some other shit suffered for it, like going back from full 3D to pre rendered areas.
It and 2 are both crushingly mediocre. To say nothing of the one that came after
RE fills the same niche and is way better.
dino crisis 1 was a very slow, difficult game with dumb puzzles and was not easily accessible by a child like RE was
dino crisis 2 was great though
not saying that 1 wasn't since 1 is objectively the best horror game ever made
because retards couldnt solve the puzzles
that's wrong though
Dinossaur enemies is dumb.
Also the characters weren't as interesting as the ones from RE.
Plot was all over the place too.
I like puzzle in DC1 more than in any RE games.
I never finished playing 1 as a kid but went back and played it a few months ago and thoroughly enjoyed it. I think one of the bigger problems was some puzzles may have been too difficult for kids, and that zombies came across as cooler back then, at least for kids anyway. I haven't played 2 but heard mixed reception about it and that it's more arcade like and that 3 is something that shouldn't be talked about.
>impliying that the equivalent of sharks on land aren't scary
*puzzles
They are more scary than zombies
honestly they're all rather silly
the pass codes, the box moving puzzles, whatever the fuck that other tube connecting puzzle was for the power to turn on and get to kirk's lab
because they shat the bed and went completely off the rails?
Wrong
I played it for the first time this year and felt the same. The item box system is more refined, too.
the item box system was neat and a method of actual, proper item scarcity that I don't feel is too tacked on
not like it mattered since I'm pretty sure killing EVERY dinosaur is downright impossible in DC1
Dino crisis 1 was just a resident evil clone with dinosaurs instead of zombies, it was a good game but nothing outstanding.
Dino crisis 2 however was an AMAZING game that was completely unique and stood out, even pushed out the boundaries of graphics for its time, it looked amazing played amazing and the story was great but all of that got shat on when dino crisis 3 came out.
DC1 had probably the best story progression system out of all the RE games. There are like 5 endings and they come from decisions you make during the game, like following or trusting a character or not. There are also different arenas for the final battle. It also gave me my much-needed fix after everything else dinosaur-related past the first Jurassic Park sucked major fucking dick.
Dino Crisis 2 was... eh. It went back to the less-innovative 2D backgrounds and the arcadey action style was off-putting initially. But it did feature an honest jungle setting and some areas had pretty tense moments like the underwater section. The time travel angle with power rangers appearing from the future was lame and gay and it probably set the precedent for the sequel nobody talks about.
Because it was more a shooter than a survival horror. How the tables have turned!
>unnatural walking corpse vs big lizard
are you retarded?
dino crisis 2 sure but dino crisis 1 was the epitome of survival horror
even if it tried to coin the genre "panic horror"
it's far harder to animate dinos in closed environments than dumb zombies
Unironically this
I hope they make a new dino crisis, if only just to have a modern 3d model for regina
It wasn't as scary, fun, sexy, varied, expensive, flashy or novel as RE1/2 was
Dino Crisis 2 >>>>>>>>>>> 1
that's two wrong opinions in one post, congrats user
Because the first game wasn't as good as Resident Evil. DC2 was kino and did a good job going to a more action-oriented focus. Then DC3 came out and was awful.
Plus capcom aren't exactly known for taking care with their IPs.
Zombies are creepy and dangerous. Dinosaurs are just dangerous.
If you were face to face with a Siberian Tiger right now, would you be scared?
Imagine a Utah Raptor being in the room with you right now.
>a shambling smelly leper vs a fucking dinosaur
six foot turkey
>Weaker than a normal human
vs.
>I probably could't kill that thing even if I had a gun
Nice reference but still.
A sic foot turkey that will rip through you like a wet paper towel within seconds and think nothing of it.
Even Micro Raptor could seriously fuck your shit up I bet.
Capcom needs to reboot this with RE6 like gameplay and keep RE similar to RER2. Where’s my third person guntaka game about fighting dinosaurs or dinosaur men in space?
Because it was all over the place.
Dino Crisis was more of a survival horror that was the closest to the Resident Evil recipe.
Dino Crisis 2 was more of an arcade shooter than anything else.
Dino Stalker was a fucking light gun game.
And then we have Dino Crisis 3 which not only has no ties with the previous 3 games, it also has fucking "mutant dinosaurs in space" as a premise.
They should have made all games like DC2 since that was the best in terms of gameplay and story and didn't try to copy RE.
dino crisis 3 was allegedly going to be "set in a building" but they scrapped it because of 9/11
if anyone's to blame for dino crisis's death, it's the saudis
2 was the best, fight me.
T-the Saudis? But they buy weapons and sell oil!
Surely they could not have done anything all too wrong!
Come child, let us invade a less fortunate country, which is almost the same, except better, it's all sand niggers, am I right?
I can hardly tell the difference haha.
Go on now, run along.
here's a hot take
1 and 2 were both the best of their respective genres
you will literally never find a better survival horror game than DC1 and you will never find a better action horror game than DC2
Agreed. I liked how it took RE and went for a different arcadey action style. I liked the first game as well, but I think it handled the survival horror elements clumsily and crossed the line into tediousness with its retarded passwords and shit.
It never had it's RE4 moment.
>better survival horror game than DC1
Darkwood
>better action horror game than DC2
FEAR
I feel like Dino Crisis had the best and worst puzzles of the genre, stuff like the safe password, the fingerprint scanning and the container ones made sense and were fine, but a fucking memory match game? DDKs with two disks that produce stupid riddles you have to solve to open a door instead of just a regular keypad/card reader? Not only they're boring/annoying but they're also ridiculous and don't fit the context of the game at all.
>darkwood
>survival horror
also no DC2 is #1
I see that you haven't met the devil.
I think the same could be said about RE games
Because the game is tenser and harder to design for the developer. It also is harder for the average person (masses) to play. This can be mostly attributed to raptors being intelligent and requiring intelligent designs, whereas a zombie is unintelligent and can utilize unintelligent designs.
Because antagonistic creatures and designs have been 'soul-liquified'. The Jurassic World movies are programming the masses into thinking of dinosaurs as friendly pets. So now because little Timmy thinks velociraptors is his dogpal, he is now considerably less likely to purchase a game where you put down raptors and other dinosaurs. Note how most arguments on soul merely revolve around use of darker colors, while soulless is brightening up the design. This has been done to Mario and Sonic to a considerable degree this generation compared their older original design.
Kids aren't encouraged to play with dinosaurs when the Jurassic movies that are released are hot garbage. Jurassic World is not a kid's movie. It has nothing imaginative in it outside of the camouflaging scene. It's designed around shock value, of seeing dinosaurs rip'n'tear into each other like we're front row in some gladiator games. The adventure bits were poorly conceived.
To get a new Dino Crisis would require gamers to attack both the Hollywood industry and the gaming industry.
jurassic park truly ruined dinosaurs
david was a rad motherfucker
he was too cool to live
also what the fuck happened to the M16 regina had at the beginning
She lost it in the tumble down the hill. It's pretty hard to hold onto something while falling 100 or so feet.
you'd think she'd be able to get another one since one of her two CGs had it
He was a cool guy. Dude just shows up out of no where in a Comanche.
resident evil puzzles are pretty silly. DC at least has more industrial themed puzzles that makes sense with the story.
What would be better? A Dino Crisis 1 reboot or Dino Crisis 4 (while saying fuck DC3 and not aknowledge it at all)?
>inb4 make new game but just call it Dino Crisis
>takes an eye off the t-rex in the beginning
>pops up halfway through in a comanche and removes chicken
>runs out of fuel mid-flight, crash lands a helicopter and doesn't die
david was a champ
If Capcom does another Dino Crisis they should just name it "Dino Crisis 3" again for the full kino energy.
either would be fine but I think a dino crisis 4 would be better
also this
But isn't Dino Crisis like 20 minutes lone?
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I can't accept this raptor image because of rights on dino raptor were sold.
>Even Micro Raptor could seriously fuck your shit up I bet.
That's just a chiken.
3 happened.
So if dino crisis was rebooted? Who would be the default man sized dino?
Since we now know the raptors had feathers would they become more the specialized unusual enemy later on?
Every other cast member T-rex ,allosaurus ,triceratops is still reasonable apart from the raptors and pterosaurs needing a thin texture.
>feathered dinos
I'll never be able to acknowledge them as the real dinosaurs and I don't care if I'm wrong
Too much fun
>*gashunking intensifies*
Dinos with feathers are cool and you're a fag lol
much like Dinosaurs during the Mezosoic, Capcom had already Redisent Evil as their main survival horror flagship tittle.
Plus they probably thought dinosaurs were already phasing out because otherwise they wouldn't try the dinosaur zombie alien shit in the third game.
Also I liked the third game... it was asthetically pleasing and had clear Alien inspirations
One of the problems with dinocrisis is that the dinosaurs are tougher than tanks. With zombies and shit you can just say "well virus makes them regen and hard to kill!". Dinosaurs, not so much.
>actually harmless
>only reported death was from the 60s and it was someone that was purposely fucking with it
Why all the bad rep?
Big chicken is not that cool. No matter how to look on it.
Thoughts?
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Utahraptor is the perfect fit because their size was the one used for the Velociraptors from Jurassic Park and Dino crisis
Zombies are more scary because they are viruses that affect the human species.
Dinos might be big and able to kill you but they would pose no harm to our species, a brain infecting parasite/virus could potentially mean the end of our existence. and it's a lot scarier
why else do you think they tried to make the series even scarier by bringing it to space and making the dinos a zombie/alien hybrid?
Is that fucking loud nigra at 1:54?
The first game was mediocre and boring. It had all the parts of a Resident Evil but everything set on snooze. Boring gray environments, 90% keycard puzzles, nearly 100 OHKO enemies.
The second game was alright but it was a tank controlled action game with infinitely respawning enemies. Not exactly something that holds up.
The third game was shit.
>that tiny SPAS
I can excuse your opinions on the first game being wrong since most people are too bad at games to play it, but the second game doesn't hold up?
how bad are you?
yes but its heavily feathered which makes a cool exotic enemy later on but not a fast introduction to the default image of dinos.
Eustreptospondylus seems like a more classical scaly fit but still man sized.
Adam and Morgan.
>And then we have Dino Crisis 3 which not only has no ties with the previous 3 games, it also has fucking "mutant dinosaurs in space" as a premise.
So, Reptilians? Maybe that's the route Capcom should go with if a Dino Crisis Remake ever happens, just make the Dinos look more demonic looking. It would solve the "dinosaurs aren't scary anymore" issue.
>no fixed camera angles
Also no door opening transitions?
They have to do it just like REmake 1
that looks uh
really rough
The creature design was fucking rad tho
>in DC2 you were in the future the whole time
The fuck?
Probably same reason PE died.
It made a drastic change from the first to the second in terms of gameplay and the third game flopped hard.
Resident Evil maintained the same formula with minor improvements until they decided to branch out. Still, DC has always been the bootleg RE for me.
>Probably same reason PE died.
Nah, PE died because they lost the license.
Time travel is a hell of a thing.
>Probably same reason PE died.
what was PE?
Dude what the fuck, it's not like Hollywood is trying to brainwash kids into thinking dinosaurs aren't dangerous. All kids who love dinosaurs and have a deep passion for them, I'm talking buying books and watching "documentaries", aren't scared by dinosaurs in the first place because they know they are just animals. Dangerous, but still animals.
And also raptor weren't actually intelligent, more or less on the same level as a mdoern day ostrich.
>all these weapons at disposal
>you hurt him with flames then kill it with a fucking satellite
A shame
Parasite Eve
parasite eve
desu I liked 2
the t-rex tanked an RPG to the face, and this one managed to survive a nuke
I'd say a satellite was warranted
The cool thing about dinosaur media is that you can come up with your own species since, like for all extinct animal groups, we have huge gaps in the fossil records. As long as they make sense phylogenetically you can have all sorts of things, for example a Tyrannosauroid with long arms, or a Spinosaurid with horns.
But they bought it back again not so long ago and they didn't announce anything.
probably because they want to keep the ip so nobody else can use it
It's a little too silly
DC2 showed inostrancevia, this is a best game on that time.
I would be more afraid of the micro-raptors thanks to sessions of ARK. Siberian Tigers usually don't attack things that are looking at them unless they're REALLY hungry. Meanwhile micro-raptors are like a bad temperament rooster capable of flight with the ability to give a fuck of a honey badger.
Micro raptors would fuck everyones shit
>he doesn't realize the dange of small and fast animals
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you limit your imagination, user
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>hey buddy, how's the family been?
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Geese have teeth on their tongues, by the way
Big eagles doesn't even hunt on humans. Only reptiles like komodo dragons do that. So yeah...
lol that giga was fucking huge compared to the real life one
Fact: Dino Crisis is in dire need of a REmake
Fact: People who complain about the DC1 puzzles are mad brainlets
Fact: There isn't enough good Regina porn
you mean regina getting fucked by raptors?
I wish the movies did more interesting things with the dinos than just "oh it's a smaller/bigger Rex". Take Carnotaurus for example
>9m long, but only around 1.5 tons
>fast as fuck, built like speed demons
These things can chase you down and bite your head off. Imagine being on a motorbike getting chased by a pack of them. But in the movie it's just a smaller Rex. Didn't even have the camouflage that the book version had.
Nah that already exists.....
i doubt they could actualy run that fast or even wanted too
with those tiny useless front arms, if it fell it would damage itself greatly
what sort of sick degenerate would draw such a thing
>Indoraptor is the only male dino on an island full of female dinos
>tfw no Jurassic Harem animu spinoff starring Indo and the dinos in various anime girl archetypes
Probably for the best given the current quality of the flms, but it would be funny to see the japs try a hand at it
>with those tiny useless front arms, if it fell it would damage itself greatly
user, what are birds?
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this guy goes into detail about its bone and muscle structure; its was specialized for what is now Argentina, with a design akin to the cheetah. Yes, the arms look stupid, but perhaps you should look at something like an ostrich and how it uses its wings before you make retarded assumptions
does a carno look like a bird to you?
>DC II is a fuckhueg time-traveling paradox that loops in on itself way harder than even Shadow Hearts does
>DC """""(((3)))""""" is technically completely unrelated, despite taking place in the distant future of where Regina has transported to in the ending of DC II. Was such a shitty game that it literally killed entirety of franchise exactly the same way 3rd Shitday and Toriyama murdered Aya Brea and entirety of PE
>why did this franchise never become as big as BIOHAZARD
Gee, I wonder.
You forgot the psychological aspect of a zombie. It's a literal walking corpse that used to be human which will definitely affect most people compared to a dinosaur which is just a giant predator to that should be avoided.
based retard not seeing analouges to ostrich
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>eating fur/feathers instead of meat
Disgusting.
user, I...
Tell that to 8 year old me watching jurassic park 1 with my dad at the cinema and having horrible nightmares for weeks.
Those fucking raptors in the kitchen.
Update: I was 6 not 8
>Why did this franchise never become as big as resident evil?
Because the first game was literal "Carnosaur - The Movie: the game", while the second game was "Jurassic Park Lost World if it was anime", and the third one was "Spirits Within with dinosaurs"...and we don't ever talk about Dino Stalker.
I was reading alot about its skull apparently it attacked similar to axe or hatchet biting down hard and fast and leaving large chunks out of whatever it attacked.Since its mouth is so small.
I believe he is wrong about the feathered arms display theory.Large flight or display feathers leave tell tale holes in the bones in modern bird bones and feathered dinos.Carnotaurus lacked these in its reconstruction so could not have supported significant plumage on its arms.
because australia is filled with things trying to kill you XDXDXD
people like dinosaurs, but they don't like killing them as much as they like killing zombies.
Food for thought:
1. First Dino Crisis was hugely popular in US, mostly ignored in Japan, and had mediocre approval in EU and Russia.
2. Dino Crisis II was largely disliked in US, had mediocre in Japan, was mostly ignored in EU, and was a HUEG success in Russia with a very strong fan base forming and a strong cult following going even nowadays inside the country (it's officially recognized as one of the most pirated ever in Russia video games made by Capcom for PSOne).
3. Third Dino Crisis was liked by no one, is disliked by everyone.
4. Dino Stalker was hugely popular in Japan, was mostly ignored in EU and Russia, and has mediocre approval in US.
what a pussy 30 yr old boomer lmao
I saw JP in cinemas when I was 5 and was fine
I think he said that was a personal theory, but I'm too lazy to go through the video again
Because after the first game they lost sight of what it's supposed to be.
AYO HOLD UP
**smacks lips**
>dino stalker
wat
there was a dino crisis 4 and i didnt know about it?
>someone who never played the originals
same
light gun game that had nothing to do with Dino Crisis
SO YOU BE SAYIN'
*chews grass*
WE...
*steals velociraptor eggs*
WE WUZ DINOSAURS AN SHIEET?
3rd game was a total shitshow that released on a console no one cared about outside of halo.
If it had been a straight forward sequel on the ps2 it would probably still be around. The 3rd game was that bad. Same thing happened to parasite eve.
either DC1 in the style of RE2:R or DC2 in the style of RE-5. it would be a success id say
>not knowing Aya's games
>parasite eve
Why do people hate on the 3rd game that much?
Does it really fuck with the story/characters or is it because of gameplay?
Its the only "parasite eve" ive played to date and i thought it was a fun game for action game fans on a console that severely lacked in that department
Does the hate come from the change in gameplay?
Didnt PE 1 and 2 have barely anything to do with each other in terms of gameplay anyway?
Its not like it was a set thing or something, or at least thats the impression i have...
Im actually looking forward to playing PE2 because of the bootleg RE vibe, i love classic RE to death
I even liked countdown vampires
>chews grass
>grass
now how would he being doing that in the Cretaceous?
Did Regina or the events of the island get a mention in the third game?
It completely ignores the plotlines set up with 2, and doesnt even have anything to do with the things that 1 or 2 or the book set up at all. Parasite eve is about a biological monster that's been around inside certain people since we began our evolutionary history. The first game was made with involvement from the author. The second was a stand alone project that took the idea in the direction of man made monsters using the same premise and by using leftover shit lying around from the events of 1.
The Third Birthday is about time traveling aliens with souls that are taking over the world.
Imagine if jurassic world introduced alien dinosaurs from hell that possess people and Chris pratt's character is a demon hunter who is from another planet. That's about how connected the third birthday is to parasite eve. The author hated it so much he refused to renew the rights for the title parasite eve to square which is why it's called the third birthday.
Third birthday DESTROYS Aya Brea as a character, there is some SLIGHT change to the gameplay from 1 to 2 but it's for the most part consistent. You may have enjoyed 3's gameplay but it was a complete shift away from what fans expected.
Dinosaur fad died out.
Niger is a river and a country in Africa, you dumb uneducated fuck. Dinosaurs are usually called by either the place they were found at, or by their founders.
>despite being only 13% of the plant-eating dinasour population...
>gun game that had nothing to do with Dino Crisis
It's connected both to DC II and DC """""3""""", you retard.
> a console no one cared about outside of halo
so THAT'S why I never bought an Xbox...
>Why do people hate on the 3rd game that much?
Because it was Toriyama's fanfic of a doujin that literally Lightning'd Aya and Eve out, and literally MURDERED Aya?
WE WUZ STREAMS OF WATER N SHIET I SWEAR TO GOD MAN
No. But the time date/period is technically in the window from which Regina and her crew came from at the beginning of DC II. Dino Stalker is also very slightly connected to time-traveling shenanigans of II and the third, despite not being connected in any other way. Dr. Kirk basically fucked everything up royally in the time continuum by discovering Third Energy in the first game.
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Is that actually what it was originally? Iirc Paula shows up in stalker.
THE HISTORY BOOKS THEY LYIN TO YOU MAN LOOK THEY SKIN THEY BLACK
NIGERSAURUS WAS BLACK
WOW REALLY? TELL ME MORE!
No user, you are the retards
Unfortunately, PE 3 was this garbage from get-go, because the project was upstarted by Tabata, which Toriyama was always a close friend and a main member of the team of. Tabata tried to do decent games, but it was Toriyama who was always shitting everything up with his retarded kindergartner fanfic crap. Tabata started the PE 3 as a project, but then Toriyama essentially "THREAD IS HIJACKED AND IS NOW ABOUT EVE BEING LIGHTNING AND AYA BEING EVE AFTER AYA GETS MURDERED, TIME AND MIND/BODY TRAVELING SHENANIGANS LOLOLOL, ALSO BUNNY AND SADOMASO QUEEN COSTUMES"d it all, ruining everything and LITERALLY single-handedly killing the entirety of the franchise (outside of possible full remakes/reboots from now on) forevermore.
The "Niger" is not even pronounced as in "nigger", you dumb fuck. It's "nigEr", not "nIger".
That's not the magick of the joke nigger.
Post neat ideas not related to JP for possible dino stuff
>Feathers
Jeiwsh propaganda
>not related to JP
Considering DC II's """""ending""""" - it's literally IMPOSSIBURU.
RE should keep going the way it is now and they should bring back Dino Crisis in the style of RE4/5/6 to keep that style of game alive.
Save room power levels
RE 1 > DC 1 > CV > RE 3 > RE 2 > RE 1 dualshock
Dino-Riders is too perfect for this world. We don't deserve it.
>they should bring back Dino Crisis in the style of RE4/5
See .
hey you fucking retard
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This
OR DINOSAURS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM
DC?
Dino Crisis II > BIOHAZARD REmake > Vampire Hunter D - The Game > BIOHAZARD 2 > Dino Crisis > Hard Edge/T.R.A.G. > Code Veronica X/Complete > City of Lost Children > Countdown Vampires > Carrier > Doctor Hauzer > Deep Fear > Martian Gothic...what else was there?
>Dino Crisis II > BIOHAZARD REmake > Vampire Hunter D - The Game > BIOHAZARD 2 > Dino Crisis > Hard Edge/T.R.A.G. > Code Veronica X/Complete > City of Lost Children > Countdown Vampires > Carrier > Doctor Hauzer > Deep Fear > Martian Gothic...
*ahem*
< PARASITE EVE II
He said save room MUSIC, you retard. There's NO saving-specific music in any PE. Never was. You just pick up a phone and that's it.
I don't know why that got me so bad, but it did
oh.....
I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS
DINOS
DID
NOT
HAVE
FEATHERS
Dinosaurs are hard to model and program and no one ever seems to get the right mix of camp and horror to make it stay relevant. I do feel like modern Capcom can easily pull it off though especially if you stamp it with RE's campiness.
Because the Dinosaurs genre of games is not popular anymore which is sad cause I like Dinosaurs and has been replaced with Zombies plus the third installment was a total fuck up.