This looks better than code vein. Especially since it isn’t gay weeb shit

I'm a die-hard souls fan and i enjoyed the surge

No you aren't. A true Soulsborne fan believes that only three games exist:
Demon's Souls
Pre-Lordvessel Dark Souls
Bloodborne
And everything else is complete garbage (especially other Soulsborne clones)

Okay.

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Surge 2 might be much better than 1 but I lost confidence in them after 1.

I'll pick it up on sale if it turns out to be decent

At first it's going to be a buggy mess and lacking important content anyway, those games are always better a few months/year down the line

No it doesn't. It might be fun be it's plain looking, Code Vein looks better. Still hyped though. Had fun with the first game.

>Code Vein
>Has attractive anime girls all over
>gay

>The Surge 2
>Has a man on the cover showing off his backside
>not gay

What did he mean by this?

I'll take my edgy cornball anime and I'll enjoy it ironically, thank you.
and The Surge was kinda shit.

>trailers are just a finishers compilation
it will be shit

Deck13 shills have always been really weird. Look forward to a month of "no really, they've made a good game for real this time " nonsense.

I tried playing the first one but without online mechanics I just got bored.

I'm getting code vein, the demo was good.

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gonna play code vein first, then the surge
trying to finish remnant before they release

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It looks all right, but I still like Code Vein more

Pretty much anything is better than Code Vein, that's not an achievement.

>ignores the overview trailer and raw gameplay trailer
u gay

>will run and look better than Code Jank
Picked up baby

It looks like a typical soulless german "game".

>what kind of music you want for your trailer senpai?
>nigger
>say no more
youtu.be/TX1h_ct5NYs

Why do western games almost never have good music nowadays?
It's either straight up trash or super forgettable.
The only soundtracks I can really remember are Deus Ex, Unreal, Mass Effect, TES, Planescape and maybe Icewind Dale in places.

First game had potential and was a step up from Lords of the Fallen. Not worth full price but I can't complain getting it cheap. That said they still have a long way to go. Hopefully they keep improving at this rate.

surge 2 honestly looks like the better game. All code vein has going for it is the CaC, which surge also has but nowhere near as good.

This, except post-ironically.

>not pirating both

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Will wait for the reviews.
The main part of the first one was iffy at best but the park DLC was genuinely good and according to people who already played the pre-release it's more of the latter.

>anime
>anything other than pure faggotry
Oh you!

youtube.com/watch?v=vbH9JmtTxvk
Spears and transforming double axes look genuinely good
Gameplay-wise it will completely blow CV the fuck out, at least

I WAS BORN
IN A PRISON

so like 75% of the Triple A games that companies shit out these days

Code Vein is babby's first Souls game so yes, even the Io waifu shitter who keeps spamming his shitty Code Vein server couldn't get past the Unchained Ogre in Sekiro. No wonder casuals like it, there's no challenge to CodeVein at all, they just want a brainless action game to play and make waifus to coom at.

I assume it has something to do with appealing to normalfags

Surge 1 was absolute fucking garbage. Don't know why people are excited for this.

I would actually laugh if Io dies
We will need a fucking suicide hotline after this because she is literally the only thing that interests people in CV

Borderlands 3 has a pretty phenomenal OST made by the guy who did Deux Ex and Jesper Kyd

>people in the server were bullying him for being too shit to get past the Ogre
Solo Code Vein is harder than Souls, though

Not at all from what i've seen. Enemies are literally braindead and bosses have static, easily learnable patterns.

Hahaha no, no it's not

You said that like Sekiro isn't one of the worst Souls games FROM has made in a while.

Don't you always have an AI companion?

I genuinely enjoyed The Surge. I thought the setting was interesting. The difficulty was a little bit bullshit at times, especially near the end, but other than that it was definitely playable. Comparably I didn't like Nioh very much.

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Venetica was alright

Sekiro is their best game yet, found the shitter.

are the weapons any better?

Having played both, I'm probably gonna play The Surge 2 first. CV isn't bad bit it's definitely more jank. It's a shame TS2 is worse in the atmosphere than the first one but the gameplay is much better.

True, but because the combat system actually has weight to it. Code Vein looks like floaty shit and waifuniggers are shilling day and night.

Is it clear what kind of multiplayer will be in the game? Because no coop or no pvp = no reason to buy.

>Gameplay-wise it will completely blow CV the fuck out, at least
not hard when the only quality this game has is the anime boobies

If it had anime titties you'd think it was the best thing ever

You can go alone if you want.
The Queen's Knight and Blade Bearer were harder than at least 70% of the Souls bosses, imo. Most of the "bosses" in the demo were elite enemies that were slightly buffed, like in the Chalice Dungeons.
Sekiro was pretty good. The only points I'd have against it are the lack of replayability compared to Souls and the shinobi tools generally being useless outside of two.
Look at They certainly look better.

Only the indirect online features are confirmed so far
Enemies who killed the players get empowered
Players can leave messages

Ok.

Yes
Just single player at this point

I just took a huge dump and that looked better than Code Vein too.

Ok so you suck at games, that's ok

>The Queen's Knight and Blade Bearer were harder than at least 70% of the Souls bosses, imo
Queen's Knight is just a bog standard humanoid boss who gets BTFO by Dragonslayer Armour mechanically.

Thanks! I really hope there will be proper multiplayer in the game, because otherwise there's really no reason not to pirate first and maybe buy the game in a sale with upcoming dlcs later.

>those nanite-enhanced mascots in theme park DLC
>those self-repairing nanite blobs at the end of the game

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>mfw I'll enjoy both
that upset you OP?

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Did they get rid of Proficiency? Affinity, Familiarity.. it's all the same shit and discourages switching and experimenting with equipment.

Hopefully it's longer than 14 fucking hours despite poor enemy variety and recycled environments this time. I liked the concept of it but it needs a lot of work still.

How did any of that suggest that I suck at games?
Queen's Knight is a lot faster and has his teleportation spam and charge. Dragonslayer Armour, from what I remember, focused more on slow, but heavy hits outside of his shield bash.
The Queen's Knight double spin is fucking bullshit, though

>still has two hits and you die
I love this setting but Deck 13 can fuck off with this shit. Dark Souls doesn't have this shit so unforgiving. Armor STILL doesn't protect you and they focus to much on this combo jump bullshit instead of keeping simple parries,guardbreaks and ripostes.

First ones are cool and I liked to lure them into the battery traps.
The blobs on the other hand were pure garbage, especially with the nonsensical overload finisher.

>Queen's Knight is a lot faster and has his teleportation spam and charge
All his actions are predictable as shit, the only thing that can catch you off guard is when he starts releasing shockwaves in last phaze but they are static and you will never get hit by them ever again
Dragonslayer Armour has a shitton of mixups and punishes and he freely switches between them without having a clear pattern.

t. filtered by the chained ogre

I loved the Nanite mass as a fight but fuck having to overcharge them. That was the worst part.
Luckily from what I've played - their enemy variety/design got much better.

Proficiency is a non-issue, there's weapons that have very low scaling but high base damage.
And the full first game with DLC is around 35 hours judging by what i've clocked a few weeks ago.

The only thing you could be caught off guard from the DSA is the first time he baits you into wailing on him. He's a good boss fight, but he isn't anything special. The flying twig things breathing cancer on you only detract from the boss fight.

It's actually a lot better now, especially since you can pump points into HP directly instead of relying on implants. Armor actually seems to matter too because I was able to tank through bosses and trade with a heavy weapon.

There's plenty of things he can catch you off guard with since he has 3 stance attacks alone all sharing similiar startup animation

I've got confidence in them due to how big of an improvement The Surge was over Lords of the Fallen, and Firebug was genuinely good.

The surge was a competent fun game with its onky weakness being the bossfights.

The surge unironically had better level design than dark souls 3%.

The Surge 1 fucked me and I quit after a few hours. I might try to replay it though before 2 comes out. I'm hearing nothing but good things about the Surge 2 though.

idk anything about code vein but it looks like another coomer anime big tit game for burnouts

Will the comfiest set return though?

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I only played the base game and it took me 14 hours to get through. Must've been lengthy DLC. I actually heard good things about it but the base game didn't wow me enough to go back for it now.

yea world and art design is literally the soulless meme

IIRC it was shown in one of the trailers.

youtube.com/watch?v=TX1h_ct5NYs Game looks like a improvement over the previous one.

Already confirmed in the trailers. Dunno if it's gonna be the same in the full game but I found one blueprint part each among three different merchants so I'm not sure if you can just get it otherwise.

Lords of the Fallen was ok.
People tend to shit on it but it was a perfectly serviceable action rpg game.
Hell it was way above standards of euro Jank.

Surge improved on it in every way.
Only thing i didn't like about the surge was to few bosses.

The team knows how to learn from its mistakes.
I imagine surge 2 will be even better.

It is. The combat in code vein sucks, which is the only thing worth caring about in a souls like game. I’m glad they had a demo so I could see first hand how bad it is

But each of those attacks are slow as fuck, so you should never be hit by them unless you are getting stunlocked by the tree butterflies.

>But each of those attacks are slow as fuck
Each of them have different startup timing and they can easily catch you on panic rolls
The ranged iron golem style projectile he uses as an estus punisher at range can easily hit you
Compare this to QK with his garbage static attack patterns

Code Vein looks like a legit piece of trash beyond the character creator and anime tits, but if i want those i can always just play some fucking porn games
The combat is so weightless, the enemies are so non-threatening, the movesets are so primitive it's just hilarious

The Queen's Knight will charge you from across the arena if you attempt to heal while he isn't distracted. Half of his attacks can hit anywhere, and they're all a lot faster than the Dragonslayer Armour's.

If there's one thing I can say is that they really took a look at the systems and improved so much that I can't even think of any part that wasn't reworked for the better. Hell, even the fucking lifts are less annoying now because you don't have to wait for them.

One thing I can say is worse compared to TS1 is the general atmosphere. The first game did a pretty good job at "Dark Souls in sci-fi" because the post-catastrophe factory full of crazy dudes and industrial robots did good on the idea of things being Fucked. In most of TS2 it's just...guys. Guys that are better enemies for sure but they're just dudes. And you're just in a city. There are some good bits (The Bloodhounds are still great) but it just feels a bit less impressive.

>The Queen's Knight will charge you from across the arena if you attempt to heal while he isn't distracted
Which is a static, predictable attack
>Half of his attacks can hit anywhere
No, he is extremely predictable in general. His biggest aoe can be avoided just by moving to right or left
>a lot faster than the Dragonslayer Armour's
Doesn't matter when devs don't know what the fuck they are doing

not an argument

How is the Queen's Knight anymore predictable than the Dragonslayer Armour? What the fuck does "static attack" even mean? I thought you were complaining about the downtime between attacks.

Best way I can describe the park DLC concept-wise would be "the Dreg Heap from Dark Souls 3 but in color and silly".
The whole thing is based around a collapsed amusement park where you have to use the attractions and rides as ways to get to the bottom of the whole thing.
Some of the shortcuts and ways of transportation are genuinely creative and there are some pretty neat ideas here and there like getting a slight HP refill when cutting off the torso of the rescue workers who carry portable health stations on their backs or using high energy batteries that lay around and can be blown up with your drone as booby traps.

It really is WAY better than the main game and the only negatives I can think of are the bosses, or rather THE boss since there really is only one actual bossfight which may be better than most of the main game ones but still just a 5/10 overall unless you wear a certain armor.
There's also another one but it's just a beefed up normal enemy that you fight multiple times again afterwards.

And God Eater devs can?

Surge was trash though, boss fights were bad, combat was bad, environment/level design was awful...

Don't even compare that shit to Souls

>How is the Queen's Knight anymore predictable than the Dragonslayer Armour
How about you actually watch solo QK no-damage kills instead of asking stupid questions

>combat was bad
You were just spamming R1, didn't you?

You can solo Dragonslayer Armour without taking damage either, what's your point?

The point is boss design itself, moron

That doesn't tell me anything, user. How is the Queen's Knight more predictable than the Dragonslayer Armour? The DSA is a lot slower, and while it does have mix ups, the game gives you more than enough time to recognize all of his different moves. The Queen's Knight is a lot faster and hits harder relative to your health, and he has a far greater range than the DSA's. Both are good boss fights with a lot of different moves.

Anything that's not entirely inert can show potential. It takes some good insight to hammer that potential into something that's actually good. The flailing of Deck13 doesn't qualify as good insight.

Current industry structure is whipping underpaid, talentless hacks to polish poop. You get passable results out of it because the tools are easier to use and there's so much established design to pull from but you don't get anything truly good because you're missing the talent and passion necessary to build a game from the ground up.
And that means having to come up with good music too.

You're literaly repeating the same shit all over again. Read the conversation chain.

the surge was a better game than dark shits 3

You haven't addressed anything I've said beyond saying the Queen's Knight had static attacks, which is a meaningless statement

Surge 2 actually looks like it will have a weighty and meaty combat
CV is such a floaty piece of shit it feels like you're hitting rubber monsters with a rubber stick

Congratulations on being blind, code vein drone

I hope people aren’t suggesting The Surge was difficult in anyway even on the harder difficulties when enemies/ bosses have different attack patterns

Looks like Hollywood garbage.

Forgive me then, user. Could you lay out your points in a greentext that isn't filled with terms no one uses?

Surge bosses are shit but some normal enemies are legitimately tough.

such as? im legitimately asking

...

>Hollywood garbage
That doesn’t make any sense

those were tough but they were rare encounters, you could even avoid the theme park blobs but i will agree with the self repairing ones since you had to activate terminals around them

>get claws of the gestalt
>twin-rigged
>awww yeah this is gonna be gr
>absolute shit moveset

I don't care how powerful they are this shit is fucking atrocious.

They are a sword-claws hybrid, use R2 moveset for quick attacks

is health and stamina still tied to augment chips? that shit was atrocious

apparently not

But Surge 1 was already decent and 2 looks much better? Can you kys? Autistic weeb faggot

Go fap to trannies

It looks less shit, put it this way.

>But Surge 1 was already decent
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahaha

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Why does it have to be Vein vs Surge? Why can't we just enjoy both?

Never finished this, I kept getting stomped by the nanobot level.

To be fair the level was a fucking maze

>Especially since it isn’t gay weeb shit
yeah, it's gay tranny yaass queen shit instead

It's the River City Girls threads all over again.

Yea Forums hates weeb games so much that they start shilling a game they had no interest on (Fight N' Rage / The Surge 2).

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hurry up user you'll be late

Yea Forums should be happy that an inexperienced western action game developer is improving with every new title and that a Jap developer is making a relaxed Soulslike, but the board would rather shitpost.

Looks like it's the first game with a limited set of new features and a new map/story.
Kinda worried actually about the setting.
First game had some pretty special themes and atmosphere. I'm worried this game won't live up to it.

>inexperienced
They're around for almost twenty years.

>20 years of experience
>still shats out stuff like Lords of the Fallen and Surge
It clearly doesn't matter

>both devs clearly care about making their games good
>they both have unique mechanics that separate them from their inspiration
>one is more sci-fi while the other is chuuni as Hell
>Yea Forums just wants to shitpost about them
This board was a mistake

The second has techno-cults and some sort of a forest with statues infused with nanites which looks pretty interesting

WAS ROME BUILT IN A DAY?

Reminder that this song is about the final boss

>inb4 Warren is the final boss of the second game
>combat theme is a remix of medbay theme

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Just do what I do and remember that 80% of what people say is either false-flagging, exaggeration or regurgitated /pol/ memes. And just assume that people will get upset over everything because they act (or pretend to) like their brains are too smooth to understand the concept that "I disliking something" isn't the same as criticising it.

Can you summon for co-op in surge 2?

The Surge 2 has zero (0) co-op or multiplayer features, it's an entire solo experience.

youtube.com/watch?v=qYevhnOEvMw
How does this faggot have all the boss fights already?

>14 bosses
They've at least learned something

>literal middle-shelf company
>hollywood garbage
Further proof that Yea Forumsermin can only communicate in meaningless buzzwords.

That's the last level of the game.

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wasn't the original a mess?

it got a sequel?

That would be kino.

I hope it's a substantial improvement over the original. Because the guys are also working on Lords of the Fallen 2 and that one needs to be perfect with all the mistakes they had to learn from already.

Original was pretty great, actually.
Had great atmosphere and very solid combat. Not a lot of bosses in there, kinda short and I guess some people were disatisfied with the entire game being set in corridors, but yeah... Still a very solid game.

People act like it flopped when you hear people talking about how they played the game (even if they put it down) almost anytime its mentioned. If it got a sequel then it must've sold enough to make it back. Also the original was decent, and gave people a sci-fi Soulslike so it had a niche to fill.

Deck13 isn't working on Lords of the Fallen 2 anymore - CI Games is. As for the game itself: in gameplay terms it's improved on pretty much all accounts, but story/atmosphere suffered.

>Because the guys are also working on Lords of the Fallen 2
Why? Pretty sure the IP attracted nothing but bad PR.

>that final boss
At least they stole Fromsoft aesthetics in right way i guess

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I was a lot more dissatisfied with the game starting you off basically naked and enemies shear eighty percent of your health off until you die a dozen times farming yourself an armour set together only to find that now the enemies only shear off fifty percent of your health with one hit.

There is no barrel deep enough that the games industry won't try to scrape some brand recognition out of its bottom

Not gonna lie, that sword gameplay looks like shit for some reason

ok, but whoever it's working on that game surely it's taking notes from the previous installments. It can't be as mediocre as the first LotF was.

fuckkk the screen tearing and framerate is killing my eyes.

No it isn’t. Either provide an example or fuck off

The latest trailer had indeed a rather...questionable music choice and another one happened to feature a black female player character.

You know people on this board absolutely sperg out (or at least pretend to for (You)s) whenever they see anything like that. Just ignore him.

same shit different flavor
kys retard

the demo was shit, floaty weapons, clunky controls, and literally zero strategy, the game was made to appeal to coombrains and nobody else

I enjoyed the Gifts and Ichor system a lot, and I did not find the controls clunky or the weapons floaty.

Can't wait to see another forced polnigger meme filtered

I really liked The Surge

I've been interested in surge 2 ever since they put out this trailer

youtu.be/tv7fRnwCsxI

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I will pirate both of these games and then never play them because I've already downloaded too many games

The final boss is Ash prime

When's it out?

why are you posting this

Shit this actually looks great

He doesn't know that "This post contains intentional unmarked spoilers" is grounds for a ban. Either that or this is a cry for help and he wants to get b&.

because im bored while im doing cardio

>hopping and ducking is still in
IT'S FUCKING CLUNKY AND A SHITTY GUESSING GAME ON TOP ALL WHILE ENEMIES TAKE 50% HEALTH IN ONE HIT! WHY IS THIS STILL IN THE GAME IF I CAN JUST DODGE AND SLIDE BOOST FOR PRETTY MUCH THE SAME REWARD(no damage and getting hits in)!

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git gud

All of these bosses follow the pattern of "if you can't make it fun make it annoying". So pretty much like Lords of the Fallen again.

what the fuck, this looks significatly worse than the first game
graphics-wise primarily but the fights themselves seem slow and boring too

Well that was how Surge 1 did it. I don't know why people were clamoring for more of that, when the game excelled at making challenging regular encounters instead. Probably the same people who clamored for a character creator instead of any actual gameplay features.

Soundtrack's nice. Shame about the game.

not that user but hopping and ducking had zero function in the game
i'd argue that blocking was redundant too, the just wasn't any situation where you came out better blocking than dodging

Blocking was the only way of dealing with any humanoid who had fast weapons thanks to just block followup attacks

I'll probably end up getting both unless there are some major issues with them.

You mean other than one being developed by Deck 13?

Sept 24th

Sounds better than being developed by shit eater team.

>your drone is the computerized daughter(or something) of the CEO from the last game
Huh. Weird. Reminds me that we never got to see him.

24 hours and a half according to steam.

Gotta admit, I like the way you can expend energy to refill your healing item when you run out. That's a nice addition.

AHHHHHHHHH I don't know which game to get. I like interesting environments in my souls games but combat is also important and CV felt sort of light

easy solution

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I want this and dying light.

my friends and i were hype to play dying light this year sucks it was delayed until next year

>Who?: The game
Who wanted this?

People with taste

>he doesn't know
you probably think the first one flopped/was shit right?

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>the first one flopped
It did though.

>sucks it was delayed

if you know anything about video games, its an absolute godsend that it was delayed

>proving my point

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Unless you're Square Enix. They can manage to delay a game and then still ship a half finished product.

You have no point. You're just smugposting because you don't have proof you could be posting instead.

yeah i mean its better to be delayed for quality purposes but we were pretty excited to have a co-op game this year

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>Calling others weebs on Yea Forums.

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No weeb game will ever be good fuck off moeshit

>Slow motion executions

Please stop with this shit. End of a group fight is one thing but having to see the same animations over and over against every minor grunt gets so tiresome.

You can toggle the slowmo on the executions.

I thought you were exaggerating about that trailer. Just watched it.

That was unfortunate.

why is nobody posting cool webms

>we were pretty excited to have a co-op game this year

a shitload of coop games came out this year

Game ain't out yet.

How are people showing off bosses and weapons then?

my friends are retards and dont buy games i show them to try and when i offer the pirated version they dont do that either

Someone retarded gave the game to e-celebs and one fucktard already has the complete boss playlist